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    Hi all. I am or was a Muslim but slowly and slowly feel like losing my faith. Why? How come Allah will send some people to heaven just cause of kalimah but a Jew or a Christian or atheist who spent their entire life in suffering to help others will go to hell?
    Doesn't make sense

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    Re: Lost faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umme salma View Post
    Allaah speaks off Jew's,Christians,Sumerians and those who do good work...Allaah says they will not grieve... will share the ayat tomorrow ...always check the Quran ..as it has the criteria..and it's good to question openly to gain clarity needed...and remember that Allaah is bringing many towards truth....sometimes it can be an error our perception, so don't define God by that ...I'm a huge believer in observing as often Allaah clarifies our misunderstanding...please do open up up and share what other questions that are creating doubt...and maybe we can use hikma from the Quran to help put them to rest for you...but please do have patience, and understanding from context helps the angle of truth....you are not alone in this battle in times when confusion the biggest tool used...
    Who are the sumerians?

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    Re: Lost faith

    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    Who are the sumerians?
    I think she meant the Samaritans.
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    "When a person sees the road as too long, he weakens in his walk." - Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah

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    Re: Lost faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    I think she meant the Samaritans.
    Ahh right

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    Re: Lost faith

    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    Who are the sumerians?
    https://www.gotquestions.org/Sumerians.html

    Who were the Sumerians?
    Who were the Sumerians? Where was Sumeria? What was the origin of the Sumerians? Are the Sumerians mentioned in the Bible?...

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    Re: Lost faith

    [QUOTE=lost_one;2985919]And that's exactly what's wrong. Doesn't anyone think that something is wrong with this? So many genuinely good people go to hell where as a Muslim who JUST HAPPENED to be born in a Muslim household goes to heaven?
    You get to go to heaven since you're born in a Muslim family and not because you made the world a better place? And vice versa Others don't?
    And it was God's decision to put you in a Muslim household. How is this fa

    Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth. (Quran 7:159)

    Verily, those who have attained to faith [in this divine writ], as well as those who follow the Jewish faith, and the Christians, and the Sabians - all who believe in God and the Last Day and do righteous deeds-shall have their reward with their Sustainer; and no fear need they have, and neither shall they grieve. (Quran 2:62)

    correction the sabians, sorry was reading up about the sumerians a day before.. firstly we need to understand who the unbelievers are, as there are ayats which also say that if people truth has not reached people, and they are ignorant of it.. they cant be held responsible for not knowing.. because we dont read other verses where it shows from context, the expansion also of Gods words.. we restrict HIs truth.. because we read just a verse or few about the same thing, but dont ponder on other verses that give a more wide explanation and understanding, that helps to round or balance our thinking... that align our understanding of justice...


    "We never punish until we raise a messenger Surah al-Isra` 17:15

    we firstly have to understand who the disbelievers are... people who reject truth knowingly, most dont know.. and even as muslims we are getting distorted truths.. so brother please do not get frustrated because someone has given one ayats .. translations have been known to be mistranslated.. so do your own research.. ponder on other ayats where God has said to the muslims to surrendered in war, let them reside for a while so they may here a some of the truth, then release them release them so they may ponder as the are people 'who dont know' ... God is merciful.. It will be HIm who judges, but the ayats of doom are not for mere faults... if we ponder on such verses

    “And We let the children of Isrā‘īl cross the sea. So, Pharaoh and his troops chased them in transgression and hostility, until when he was about to drown, he said, I believe that there is no god but the One in whom the children of Isrā‘īl believe, and I am among those who submit to Allah. (Allah said,) is it now (that you have come to believe) while you were rebellious all along, and you were among the mischief-makers? So, today, We shall save your body, so that you may become a sign for those after you. And many of the people are heedless of Our signs.” (Yunus) here if we observe, that pharoh knew all along that God did exist and only when he was about to drown with his pride dare to acknowledge.. and Allaah knew that he was an rejector of truth and rebelling against truth ... while we are searching truth, please be free in seeking Divine truth.. dont let anyone bully you to otherwise... observe,observe and observe Allaah signs, man sadly does complicate and restrict the Divine tuth due to bad interpretations and distorations, no one should think the Quran cant be touched, it may not have been in its origin, but noone said it cant be in its interpretation of it, do we think iblys would not have thought about this.. ? .... irrelevant if anyone tries to put you off, dont be from the people who will complain that you followed so and so whilst the ones in authority were also in error, take charge of your journey, because on that you alone will be accountable for it.. God is giving us time to seek truth, the evidences that we are given in life, is the manifestation pointing us are on the right path, as our intentions are directed towards that sincerity, as life isnt guranteed, create your intention.. about your faith and the ahkhira.. Question openly but also seek openly, dont box yourself in as we have because God gives us permission to seek truth and take from the best speech the truth given.... keep your mind open to truth..and vision will expand.... this method that we have right now, is way wrong.. how else do non muslims come to islam, but by giving themselves the openness to seek substance in truth.. dont blame God for mans misrepresention... and never limit Gods justice or HIs mercy, that is HIs domain..as Allaah knows the internal structure of each person.. we have very poor trust on God, have poor trust on man, because it is he that creates what God further difficulty in the religion that brings harmony with reasoning, comtemplation, meditation, reflection, questioning to clarify, and please observe.. because He truly will respond if we learn to observe.... we are doing very wrong and pushing people away, from a religion that brings expansion and balance in ones heart..




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    sorry, lool correction.. i was reading up about the sumerian civilisation hence was in a rush, hadnt realised what i wrote.. *sabians ..
    Last edited by Umme salma; 03-20-2018 at 09:01 PM.

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    Re: Lost faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd View Post
    I think she meant the Samaritans.

    Correction: Sabians
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    Re: Lost faith

    Quote Originally Posted by lost_one View Post
    Hi all. I am or was a Muslim but slowly and slowly feel like losing my faith. Why? How come Allah will send some people to heaven just cause of kalimah but a Jew or a Christian or atheist who spent their entire life in suffering to help others will go to hell?
    Doesn't make sense
    Hii !

    You're sort of losing your faith because you don't find it convincing! I have been through this and trust me it's really a tough time when no answer can convince you . You're definitely someone who is logical and rational and doesn't want to be a Muslim just because he is a born Muslim.

    This book has changed my life and I'm sure it will change yours too . It will clear most of your doubts . And it's okay to doubt and question, that's how you make your faith more strong.

    https://islamhouse.com/en/books/345803/ Give it a read!


    And coming to your question, I have the same question and I see you've replied mentioning that none of the answers are convincing. And I totally agree with you that hell fire is a very harsh punishment for someone who's kind but died a non-Muslim. We just know things and people the way we see or observe but Allah knows beyond everything and anything. He is the best and ultimate decision-maker. We can be unaware but Allah can never be, He is aware of everything . So all you need to have is faith and trust on Him. The book that I have shared will help you in bringing out this faith.
    And one thing, no Muslim can ever be a good Muslim without being a good human. You can never enter Jannah if you have an evil heart even though you've been religious throughout.

    Alot of questions will arise, I am sure one by one you'll get answers. And some answers will amaze you. I believe that both of us lack knowledge and we have to do alot of research and read great books, there are answers to your each and every question. Even I had many questions, most of my questions have been answered and I am sure that I'll find the answers for the rest as well.

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