During lunch i was sitting next to two people then they went to get more food and while i was alone the gay guy came next to me and started talking to me and making conversation... i just bought up religion etc and his views...
I personally didnt know how to act because its my first day at a new job... and i didnt want to seem rude infront of my managers etc and get fired.
I told him something similar to this... in islam the act of gay sex is a sin but having "gay thoughts" is not a sin....because you do not get sin for thoughts of doing an evil act..... it is acting upon your thoughts and desires which will be accounted for...
Then at the end of the day he came up AGAIN to me and tried to talk to me...
I felt so awkward how do i act in these sittuations?
I dont like being approached by this gay guy how can i kindly tell him to f*** off without geting fired?
Never look at them in such a rude way. They are also son of Adam (as). However they are misguided by the propaganda we are experiencing and also waswas if sheytan.
Be good and respectful, make him love the character of the Muslim and what Islam is all about. When they become interested in Islam..a person tends to want to LISTEN and LEARN.
They are themselves victims you know and with a victim..be good and gentle with them. Do however always be careful at work to not immediately talk about Islam and how Islam looks at certain things. To UNDERSTAND Islam, the heart first needs certain healing. When the heart has healed to a certain extend, the information told can also be understood.
For example, you have those women that because the heart is not healed, they look at hijab as something oppressive. While the woman that the heart has healed to a certain extend loves the hijab when hearing about it.
So in this example if you stumble upon a person that his/her heart hasn't healed to that certain extend to understand Islam, they will try to make your life miserable at work in the sense of wanting you to get fired.
EDIT: That gay colleague of yours has rights over you. Maybe you are the FIRST Muslim he has encountered and YOU and I are the Rasul's of Rasullah(saws) (Messengers of Messenger of Allah). It is OUR duty to convey the message of Islam. Or else on the Day of Judgement those people will testify AGAINST us that we have NOT conveyed the message of Islam to them. Just look at the story of Prophet Nuh(as). That on the Day of Judgement the people of Nuh(as) will say (lie) that Nuh(as) did not convey the message of Islam to them. And WE the Muslims will testify on behalf of Nuh(as) through knowing that story through the Qur'an (Allah telling us about and Allah does NOT lie).
Last edited by Simple_Person; 06-05-2017 at 08:30 PM.
^ Well, I was thinking same. Also, treat him by the same way like you treat any other your workmate. Keep conversations with work only, avoid too much talking about personal life and if he is interesting about Islam, give him some informative links. If he isn´t, just leave the subject.
Last edited by sister herb; 06-05-2017 at 08:51 PM.
Reason: grammatical mistake
just take this advantage to tell him about islam all you can; tell him what Islam says about gays, gay sex, etc only if he asks, but otherwise stick to other stuff
Tell him politely that you're not interested in "such relationship".
I've ever be friend with few gays, and also have ever experiencing being 'approached' by few other gays. But in the OP case seem like that gay does not expect special relationship. It's normal if in lunch time someone approach and making conversation with someone else who is alone. If that gay then came again, it's because the OP talked about homosexuality in Islam, and he was curious to know further what the OP think about it.
Off topic, but homosexual people really creep me out, I mean anyone could look me with the eyes of a predator not just opposite gender in the west.
Thanks to Allah I have not been given a very "Sleek" figure according to Western standards.
Edit: That is not to say I'd kill them or have any involvement in their things in their land.
Really creep you out? Just because they sexually are drawn to men instead of women? It is all between your ears. I have had once a homosexual colleague and that was for me the pre-Muslim times and i liked to converse with him the most about all kind of things, because he was a honest guy and not like those snakes at work. He was homosexual but did not act like a woman as some do..just looked like a normal guy.
If you get to know many of those homosexual guys and i am not talking about those that act like women and try to talk like women. Those are SUPER arrogant and full of pride. These also have often MANY trauma's like lack of attention in their childhood or just obsession of being center of attention. Often the "normal" homosexual guys are honest guys but just confused. Very respectful and open for discussion. While those that act and talk like women those are REALLY REALLY messed up. You cannot get to them when talking to them..all emotional and they have that typical "vengeful" trait that women have when you reject them. In other words they try to ruin you(your career or life) because you did something (denied them your attention or rejected them when they offered themselves to you) or said something that is not in line with THEIR OPINION.
Keep your belt tight, try to avoid facing the wall when he's behind you, and give him the story of lut pbuh, if necessary, explain to him that homosexuality is a crooked way and is not a working model in terms of world progress - whichever standard one weighs by, whether scientific or moral long term. The fact that Allah has forbidden it upon all His servants is something known.
During lunch i was sitting next to two people then they went to get more food and while i was alone the gay guy came next to me and started talking to me and making conversation... i just bought up religion etc and his views...
I personally didnt know how to act because its my first day at a new job... and i didnt want to seem rude infront of my managers etc and get fired.
I told him something similar to this... in islam the act of gay sex is a sin but having "gay thoughts" is not a sin....because you do not get sin for thoughts of doing an evil act..... it is acting upon your thoughts and desires which will be accounted for...
Then at the end of the day he came up AGAIN to me and tried to talk to me...
I felt so awkward how do i act in these sittuations?
I dont like being approached by this gay guy how can i kindly tell him to f*** off without geting fired?
Hmm, I think even though you dislike the person you should try to be nice to him. Maybe he approached you because he wanted to make you comfortable in your new environment. You said it's your first day at work right? Perhaps he was just trying to make you feel welcomed?
It's alright if he doesn't try to make advances on you. If he does just tell him that you are not interested, but of course you still need to be nice and respectful to him. Just because he is a gay doesn't mean you have the right to treat him differently. I mean he is still human
I have a gay friend who I consider one of my best friends. We have been friends since junior high. Later he confessed that he's gay in senior high. I could understand why he became like that from his story, but still I told him to remember that he is a Muslim. Therefore he must know what is allowed and what is not in our religion. I just reminded him that. We're still friends until now but we are rarely in touch because he moved away.
Keep your belt tight, try to avoid facing the wall when he's behind you,
Hey!, hey!, the OP is in office, not in prison!. Being a gay doesn't mean being rapist. Also, the rapists in prisons usually are not gays, but heterosexual who commit homosexuality because situation.
Hmm, I think even though you dislike the person you should try to be nice to him. Maybe he approached you because he wanted to make you comfortable in your new environment. You said it's your first day at work right? Perhaps he was just trying to make you feel welcomed?
It's alright if he doesn't try to make advances on you. If he does just tell him that you are not interested, but of course you still need to be nice and respectful to him. Just because he is a gay doesn't mean you have the right to treat him differently. I mean he is still human
I have a gay friend who I consider one of my best friends. We have been friends since junior high. Later he confessed that he's gay in senior high. I could understand why he became like that from his story, but still I told him to remember that he is a Muslim. Therefore he must know what is allowed and what is not in our religion. I just reminded him that. We're still friends until now but we are rarely in touch because he moved away.
I know you mean well, but you do know that friendship doesn't exist between men and women right? And i am not saying that, but Islam is saying that.
I know you mean well, but you do know that friendship doesn't exist between men and women right? And i am not saying that, but Islam is saying that.
Hmm... I know that but I don't think I really understand it
Where I live friendship between men and women is considered normal. As long as you don't do "weird" stuffs what's the harm? I may be wrong but it's hard to oppose cultural thing. I mean it's just the norms...
It's not like by being friends with the opposite gender we can flirt with each other or something
Now I'm confused
Hmm... I know that but I don't think I really understand it
Where I live friendship between men and women is considered normal. As long as you don't do "weird" stuffs what's the harm? I may be wrong but it's hard to oppose cultural thing. I mean it's just the norms...
It's not like by being friends with the opposite gender we can flirt with each other or something
Now I'm confused
It is not what people consider normal, because if we go by those standards we should start worshiping some statues or the sun or whatever..but NOT Allah. This is what humans consider "normal", however we look at what Allah and His messenger have told us is normal. With that is that you cannot hang out with some guy even if he is "gay" if that guy is not your brother, uncle, father, son, husband.
You know being attracted to that individual is very easy. Sometimes a tomboy (girl that acts and mostly looks like a guy) i as a guy if i am friends with such girl, can in the end fall in love with her and she falling in love with me. Because we men often do not want those girly girls. Those women that are so girlish that do not want to even touch something dirty with 1 finger (cleaning for example)..and want to be treated like a princes and treat you like her slave.
Anyways go ponder about it. Now is Ramadan and no interference of sheytan with your thoughts.
Last edited by Simple_Person; 06-08-2017 at 12:57 PM.
It is not what people consider normal, because if we go by those standards we should start worshiping some statues or the sun or whatever..but NOT Allah. This is what humans consider "normal", however we look at what Allah and His messenger have told us is normal. With that is that you cannot hang out with some guy even if he is "gay" if that guy is not your brother, uncle, father, son, husband.
You know being attracted to that individual is very easy. Sometimes a tomboy (girl that acts and mostly looks like a guy) i as a guy if i am friends with such girl, can in the end fall in love with her and she falling in love with me. Because we men often do not want those girly girls. Those women that are so girlish that do not want to even touch something dirty with 1 finger (cleaning for example)..and want to be treated like a princes and treat you like her slave.
Anyways go ponder about it. Now is Ramadan and no interference of sheytan with your thoughts.
I'll think about it. Thanks for the concern brother
Hey!, hey!, the OP is in office, not in prison!. Being a gay doesn't mean being rapist.
Willingly being gay and contented is forbidden by the Creator of humankind and all that exists, there are many easy ways to rectify (no pun intended) the problem, a person with male organs can fix their hormones to suit their anatomy, and the person with female organs can do the same. If anyone purposefully accepts perversion and disobeys Allah they are criminals and therefore should be advised sincerely, and punished in case of defiance. There was no excuse to willingly be contented with homosexuality before - and their is absolutely no excuse in this day an age of knowledge and ability.
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Also, the rapists in prisons usually are not gays, but heterosexual who commit homosexuality because situation.
Penal servitude (lol) is no excuse to be homosexual either.
The problem is getting bigger, we straight people are no longer straight but on a fictional spectrum of Sexuality, but let us not get this discussion into that sort of thing.
Give him respect, we're all human at the end of the day. Doesnt mean you have to agree with homosexuality or anything. If he tries to flirt or anything just politely tell him your not interested
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