Brief introduction, purpose for signing on this forum and question. Introduction:
I'm a westerner living in New York City who considers himself a mix of Atheist and Agnostic.I grew up in a Catholic family so my morals, culture and personality have been heavily influenced by Christianity. Purpose:
In the world that I live, Islam is the topic of conversation very often from the past 20 years or so.Before that time I knew very little about Islam and Muslims.I have a passion for researching the topics I find interesting.I get my information from mass media, the internet,(forums, youtube, etc), and electronic books (Quran, Bible, etc)I have heard bad things about the Islamic World, things that are strange and incompatible with the way I live.So I'm here because I want to hear from Muslims themselves if the bad things I hear are misinterpreted or that really Islamic culture is too different from Western culture and therefore incompatible. Can we live side by side? Or sooner or later it is going to explode?
I know many Muslims now but I have never been a real friend with any of them.I find them a little intimidating, they seem to be always in the defensive and ready to jump at you.Whatever I say is quickly responded by a :Can you defend your claim? or Can you prove what you're saying? or can you provide a link to prove it? or that is not in the Quran, or get your facts straight. So you can understand what I mean by being intimidated by some very intense Muslims. My question and topic today is "Rape in Islamic Countries"
My research indicates that there's a huge flaw in Islamic Countries that allow "Most rape cases to go unpunished" and unreported. Men know they can get away with rape and women wouldn't dare to accuse a man of rape and risking her life by doing so (Adultery)
Is it true? Who's fault is it? Islamic Law, Muslim Jurists? Wrong interpretation of Islamic Scriptures? or What?
I know many Muslims now but I have never been a real friend with any of them.I find them a little intimidating, they seem to be always in the defensive and ready to jump at you.Whatever I say is quickly responded by a :Can you defend your claim? or Can you prove what you're saying? or can you provide a link to prove it? or that is not in the Quran, or get your facts straight. So you can understand what I mean by being intimidated by some very intense Muslims.
In any discussion or debate, I think we can agree that you need to be able to back up your facts. There's no need to feel intimidated if your intention is to learn and find the truth. If your intention is just to generalize an entire population by prejudice or act "holier than thou" than there's no point in the discussion. Right?
format_quote Originally Posted by Raymann
My question and topic today is "Rape in Islamic Countries"
My research indicates that there's a huge flaw in Islamic Countries that allow "Most rape cases to go unpunished" and unreported. Men know they can get away with rape and women wouldn't dare to accuse a man of rape and risking her life by doing so (Adultery)
Is it true? Who's fault is it? Islamic Law, Muslim Jurists? Wrong interpretation of Islamic Scriptures? or What?
We can't lump all islamic countries together as their cultures differ. Islam is not a culture, it's a religion. Rape is a crime in Islam which holds a severe punishment and there's no question about that. Everything wrong in regards to laws against rape can be applied to nearly every country, including the most liberal of them, so I'd say the issues regarding rape in general lie in the hands of all parties involved: The rapist for raping, the victim for not reporting it (however I don't blame them considering the backlash that is prevalent against them), the society for victim-blaming/shaming, the law for not taking it seriously, putting proper laws in place, and not being more vigorous in prevention and protection. Islam puts practices into place that not only prevents and deters rape, but punishes rapists in the most severe manner and protects the victims. There isn't any secular law that provides the same sort of preventative measure against rape nor protection for the victims. "Islamic countries" do not run every Islamic law. They are really only considered "islamic" because the population there identifies as Muslim. The law run in that country itself may very well be against Islam or only adapted in certain cases.
يا قافلة الخير "The Persian aggression against Iraq was a result of the arrogant, racialist and evil attitudes of the ruling clique in Iran."
-Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid at-Tikriti - العراق جمجمة العرب ورمح الله في الأرض
Isn't it feminist who decreed all men to be rapist starting from Adam to the last prophet and after that (as they are men also) and every other men who is not a prophet or sahaba and every new baby born boy is 100% rapist by default and criminals and thus rape culture is born? Isn't it also feminist decreed that any men having sex with any women period, whether that women is his wife or not and whether that women have consented to sexual intercourse is still by default rapist and thus again rape culture is born.
You see...in order to prevent a culture of rape and have rape culture what we need to do is do permanent segregate gender separation where women will have their own country be an amazonian society and no males ever born or birthed there, have it run by female government and have a huge sign that says no men or boys allowed. NOW only then you don't have a rape culture. Of course..women raping each other is not considered rape at all and an adult women can have sexual relation with a little girl even if it is not her consent and that is not considered rape. Am I correct?
When i use the term unlawful - i mean unlawful primarily according to God's law as described in the Quran, and then valid Islamic Jurisprudence.
Rape is a crime, and the punishment is severe - be the perpetrator male or female.
It is not only rape, but it is also unlawful for males and for females to attempt to seduce males or females into unlawful sexual intercourse or to unlawalfully induce sexual arousal - such as by displaying oneself in public with unislamic attire and in an unislamic fashion - such as: flirting without any intention of marrying the individual before sexual contact, asking a non-mahram (search the term) person of the opposite gender who is not the lawful spouse to enter a private place for unlawful interaction, making a person intoxicated via mind altering substances especially with the aim of causing him/her to commit uncharacteristic and unlawful actions....
I hope you can understand the relationship between all of the above actions and how society is kept civilised by Islam - the way of life which Almighty God has enjoined upon mankind, and guided to the best ways of conduct through it for elevating individuals and societies to the highest standard in the progress of humankind.
Base and animalistic acts such as urinating and defacating are done in the toilet where possible, not in public to the best of one's reasonable ability, and without causing distress or harm to other individuals in society - and lawful sexual interactions are strictly kept private and between lawful spouses.
It is easier to understand the harmony and peace of mind created by these simple rules when a person studies and ponders deeply and/or visits a country where the guidelines and laws of Islam are respected to a decent standard, and the people of different regions have different levels of strictness even within Islam - for example, in a western country, it may be normal for a female to wear loose fitting top and trousers with the head covered, in an arab country it may be normal for them to wear the abaya and hijab (head covering - sometimes hats - although hijab means screen and can be interpreted as the attire which screens a female from sexual symbolism), in another country it may be normal for them to wear abaya, hijab, and niqab, in an eastern country it may be normal for them to wear loose shalwar kameez and hijab (though they usually use the abaya and hijab and many the niqab when out shopping etc.
Modesty in clothing was a practice of females of the western countries who identified themselves as "christ"ian not long ago including the utilisation of hats and veils and i still recall regularly seeing females tying a scarf over their heads to their chins when i was little and i'm not yet forty years of age - amazing how electronic media and magazines can make things feel alien in a single generation - the fingerprints of veiling still remain in weddings although it's no longer a veil to conceal modesty - but i know that the usury banking system works by corrupting and dividing families and once selfishness, greed, and individualism become the norm - the tribute money rolls in fast - this slant may appear strange to those who don't ponder much on how societies are groomed and cultured by those in aristocracy and positions of authority.
Here's an example of how christians around Jesus dressed outdoors - look familiar?
Here's how they dressed outdoors in the uk and us in the not so very distant past - feel familiar?
In any discussion or debate, I think we can agree that you need to be able to back up your facts.
Very often I ask questions because I want to know if certain reports are accurate, but the reports are not mine so I can't back them up.
Example:
I read a news article on unreported rape cases on Islamic Countries and quickly ask a known Muslim. Is that true?
He gets defensive and instead of answering the question he proceeds to ask me instead:
Where did you get that from? What are your sources? You cannot trust the mass media and so on.
Would it be so difficult to just answer the question based on what you know and have experienced?
I have to say, your answer was not very different than the one I receive from most Muslims, they gave me a lecture and at the end don't answer the question.
Now you do realize that you didn't answer the question either, don't you?
Do most rape cases go unpunished or unreported on Muslim Countries?
I was expecting a Yes or No or I don't know or maybe in some countries.
I do understand that not all Muslim Countries are alike, that Islam is not a race or culture and that the laws vary from country to country.
But the question remains ...
When i use the term unlawful - i mean unlawful primarily according to God's law as described in the Quran, and then valid Islamic Jurisprudence.
Rape is a crime, and the punishment is death - be the perpetrator male or female.
You say rape is a crime and punishment by death whether the criminal is a male or "a female", right? Observed how I bold it the male and put female in quotation? We all know for a fact in that in society as we know it and you cannot deny it that when a male commit rape he is hanged by his neck but when a female commit rape...especially to little boys of ages 7 and above she is not only not going to be jailed but she is set free and the boy should be considered lucky that a woman had sex with him. ESPECIALLY if that female is attractive. She have immunity to any law as long as she is a female, she have smooth skin, she is beautiful, she have almost an hour glass shaped body, she have feminine voice, sleek long hair and smells of perfume...by those configurations she is immune to any law. She can steal, rape and even murder (if she is good at hiding the fact she committed the murder or even putting blame in somewhere else...preferably the male sex as he is the easy scapegoat as we put blame on Shaitan the male gender is in that same category) and then can go scutt free. Have you not seen the endless double standard laws in USA for example where you see endlessly over and over and over female teachers having sexual relationship with little boys and she does not go to prison at all or few month at that. Not only that...but if that boy impregnates her...he now have to pay child support even if he was raped.
Theory is one thing...I personally would love to see that in practice. If you don't practice what you preach then what you preach holds no value. Don't you agree? If you want true justice then the punishment should be applied for both sexes of the same crime or else you start losing credibility.
Funny though I don't see you screaming and shouting for all these boys who are raped and who have no voice. You do understand boys are like cats or dogs, they are voiceless. They get raped they keep it in and ignore it. Why are there no voices for them? Again..double standard and sexism at the finest. When it comes to rape...female is the only thing that comes in mind.
This man was literally RAPED as a little boy and watch what his mom did when he told her:
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Now you do realize that you didn't answer the question either, don't you?
Do most rape cases go unpunished or unreported on Muslim Countries?
I was expecting a Yes or No or I don't know or maybe in some countries.
I do understand that not all Muslim Countries are alike, that Islam is not a race or culture and that the laws vary from country to country.
But the question remains ...
She answered your question well - its a bit like asking are all men in the US like Trump do they all grab women by the............ or are they like Clinton, Weinstein, Polanski and Cosby? Its a loaded question and not a yes and no answer.
I read a news article on unreported rape cases on Islamic Countries and quickly ask a known Muslim. Is that true?
What were you expecting? are you talking about the Muslims in west Africa, or are you talking about the Turks? Do you want to know about Malaysia or Bangladesh? How do you define "Islamic country" here?
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
The question itself is based on a twisted, falsely biased, and over generalised accusation and therefore not worthy of being responded to other than with the general clarification of how things should be done in Islam.
A bit like answering baiting questions by an american on "Japan's under-reported rape culture during world war 2"
Or debating the merits and demerits of Jihad based on the premise of the 9/11 false flag.
Islam should be implemented.
Strip club owners and those who make and distribute pornography, and the politicians who back them should be told to close shop and repent to Allah or be tried in court and executed.
60. Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time:
61. They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy).
62. (Such was) the practice (approved) of Allah among those who lived aforetime: No change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of Allah.
From Quran, Chapter 33
Rape is a crime which results in severe punishments in Islam.
Unlawful seduction and false accusations of rape also carry severe punishments in Islam.
The details and circumstances are to be looked into with justice to the best of the ability of those in authority and with responsibility.
You say rape is a crime and punishment by death whether the criminal is a male or "a female", right? Observed how I bold it the male and put female in quotation? We all know for a fact in that in society as we know it and you cannot deny it that when a male commit rape he is hanged by his neck but when a female commit rape...especially to little boys of ages 7 and above she is not only not going to be jailed but she is set free and the boy should be considered lucky that a woman had sex with him. ESPECIALLY if that female is attractive. She have immunity to any law as long as she is a female, she have smooth skin, she is beautiful, she have almost an hour glass shaped body, she have feminine voice, sleek long hair and smells of perfume...by those configurations she is immune to any law. She can steal, rape and even murder (if she is good at hiding the fact she committed the murder or even putting blame in somewhere else...preferably the male sex as he is the easy scapegoat as we put blame on Shaitan the male gender is in that same category) and then can go scutt free. Have you not seen the endless double standard laws in USA for example where you see endlessly over and over and over female teachers having sexual relationship with little boys and she does not go to prison at all or few month at that. Not only that...but if that boy impregnates her...he now have to pay child support even if he was raped.
Theory is one thing...I personally would love to see that in practice. If you don't practice what you preach then what you preach holds no value. Don't you agree? If you want true justice then the punishment should be applied for both sexes of the same crime or else you start losing credibility.
Funny though I don't see you screaming and shouting for all these boys who are raped and who have no voice. You do understand boys are like cats or dogs, they are voiceless. They get raped they keep it in and ignore it. Why are there no voices for them? Again..double standard and sexism at the finest. When it comes to rape...female is the only thing that comes in mind.
This man was literally RAPED as a little boy and watch what his mom did when he told her:
If you speak of a problem amongst common people that needs to be rectified - unless reporting it to just authorities who know the solution and who have a duty of administering proper justice upon receipt of your information - clarify what the proper conduct should be in Allah's sight. That way everybody listening to you will have an idea as to your intentions for raising the issue.
Some people see things as they are and aren't and say "why?" and "why not?"
Others see things as they should be in Allah's sight and say "let's fix it".
My solution is that obedience to God and His messenger must be established and opposition to God and His messenger must be shunned simultaneously (although the first part of the equation automatically leads to the latter - clarification is sometimes necessary).
Surah 61. The Ranks,
1. Whatever is in the heavens and on earth, let it declare the Praises and Glory of Allah. for He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.
2. O you who believe! Why say ye that which you do not?
3. Grievously odious is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not.
4. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure.
5. And remember, Moses said to his people: "O my people! why do you vex and insult me, though ye know that I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you?" Then when they went wrong, Allah let their hearts go wrong. For Allah guides not those who are rebellious transgressors.
6. And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"
7. Who doth greater wrong than one who invents falsehood against Allah, even as he is being invited to Islam? And Allah guides not those who do wrong.
8. Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the rejecters may detest (it).
9. It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, that he may proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans detest (it).
10. O you who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?-
11. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that you strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if you only knew!
12. He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement.
13. And another (favour will He bestow,) which you love,- help from Allah and a speedy victory. So give the Glad Tidings to the Believers.
14. O you who believe! Be you helpers of Allah. As said Jesus the son of Mary to the Disciples, "Who will be my helpers to (the work of) Allah." Said the disciples, "We are Allah's helpers!" Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion rejected: But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed.
Are people really actually still wondering if they have to be worried of Shariah law in countries whereby their laws are prevalent, and are people still trying to figure out about Islam Muslims although having co-existed peacefully for many years with Muslims at work or in varying social activities for different causes. Why would someone be so overly concerned about researching "Rape culture" in Muslim countries? Why not wonder and place energy with rapes happening in your community. If, you want to migrate to a Muslim country, someday, okay, maybe I guess it's a concern. Anyway,
My research indicates that there's a huge flaw in Islamic Countries that allow "Most rape cases to go unpunished" and unreported. Men know they can get away with rape and women wouldn't dare to accuse a man of rape and risking her life by doing so
If you are speaking about practicing Muslims living in Muslims countries, I sincerely doubt it. These men know better than to victimize anyone, but then I'm referring to those who are practicing the religion in a healthy/correct way. If you are speaking about authorities, leaders who are non-practicing, or sometimes practicing and otherwise sick-minded individuals, I wouldn't be shock if such things do occur. In fact, that's just not for an "Islamic country" but countries anywhere. The examples in the Quran and the Ahaadith explains clearly how women should be approached, in a respectful and kind manner. I think Abz and the sister Charisma answered well enough. I really can't sleep right now and came across this thread, reminds me why I left forums for some times. Ah, well back to studying something of relevance, hope you got some satisfaction & peace OP. Rape isn't acceptable. Does anyone know the narration of the Muslim woman who killed the guy who tried to rape her and it was approved as being a permissible murder by the sahabah?
Isn't it feminist who decreed all men to be rapist starting from Adam to the last prophet and after that (as they are men also) and every other men who is not a prophet or sahaba and every new baby born boy is 100% rapist by default and criminals and thus rape culture is born? Isn't it also feminist decreed that any men having sex with any women period, whether that women is his wife or not and whether that women have consented to sexual intercourse is still by default rapist and thus again rape culture is born.
You see...in order to prevent a culture of rape and have rape culture what we need to do is do permanent segregate gender separation where women will have their own country be an amazonian society and no males ever born or birthed there, have it run by female government and have a huge sign that says no men or boys allowed. NOW only then you don't have a rape culture. Of course..women raping each other is not considered rape at all and an adult women can have sexual relation with a little girl even if it is not her consent and that is not considered rape. Am I correct?
What are on earth are you about? Men can also rape men if you do such a gender segregation. By the way your information is false.
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^ Ignore that question. I'm probably better off not knowing. Can't delete it.
I have to say, your answer was not very different than the one I receive from most Muslims, they gave me a lecture and at the end don't answer the question.
Now you do realize that you didn't answer the question either, don't you?
Do most rape cases go unpunished or unreported on Muslim Countries?
I was expecting a Yes or No or I don't know or maybe in some countries.
I do understand that not all Muslim Countries are alike, that Islam is not a race or culture and that the laws vary from country to country.
But the question remains ...
The point with my answer is that Islamic law is universal and standard, whereas culture is not. So what you'd find in one Islamic country can vary vastly from another in how rape cases are handled and it would have nothing to do with Islam. Make sense? Ask more specific questions; my answer wouldn't differ from any Christian, American, Mexican, etc. because your questions are very generic.
However from the Islamic countries I've been to (Gulf and Levant), all degrees of assault against women are taken very seriously--From harassment to rape. Do some rape cases go unreported?? Probably, and that happens everywhere.
But to get more accuracy, it's better to ask about specific countries.
Ok, let me be specific.
Lets look at one of the most common rape cases.A man rapes a married woman.
He knows the penalty for rape is death under strict Islamic Law.He also knows she would get stoned to death under strict Islamic Law and probably will refresh her memory about it.
Accusing a man of rape automatically means she is admitting having sex outside of marriage. Under strict Islamic Law that is "Adultery" and is penalized by stoning to death.
1000 out of 1000 Muslim women would not risk their lives by accusing the man.
There is also the problem that a woman's word is worth half the word of a man so she has no chance in the case.
So you see that strict Islamic Law does more to let rape cases go unpunished and unreported than it does to deter rapists from committing this crime.
I know you're going to ask me to prove every single word of what I said but why don't you tell where what I said is wrong.
Thanks for all your answers, I really like this forum and the very opinionated members.
Why would someone be so overly concerned about researching "Rape culture" in Muslim countries? Why not wonder and place energy with rapes happening in your community.
That's exactly how all started, investigating rape cases in my own community but I don't want to get out of topic by elaborating on this question.
Ok, let me be specific.
Lets look at one of the most common rape cases.A man rapes a married woman.
He knows the penalty for rape is death under strict Islamic Law.He also knows she would get stoned to death under strict Islamic Law and probably will refresh her memory about it.
Accusing a man of rape automatically means she is admitting having sex outside of marriage. Under strict Islamic Law that is "Adultery" and is penalized by stoning to death.
1000 out of 1000 Muslim women would not risk their lives by accusing the man.
There is also the problem that a woman's word is worth half the word of a man so she has no chance in the case.
So you see that strict Islamic Law does more to let rape cases go unpunished and unreported than it does to deter rapists from committing this crime.
I know you're going to ask me to prove every single word of what I said but why don't you tell where what I said is wrong.
Thanks for all your answers, I really like this forum and the very opinionated members.
Nah, I don't need to ask you for proof since most of what you've stated are very common misconceptions that are heard very often.
Anyways, in your generic scenario, under Islamic law a woman is not convicted of adultery if she is raped. Rape is a different case in which forcible intercourse is involved, not voluntary adultery, so the only person that would be convicted and punished is the man in question. The woman's honor is always protected and fought for.
format_quote Originally Posted by Raymann
There is also the problem that a woman's word is worth half the word of a man so she has no chance in the case.
This is concerning something different, not rape.
format_quote Originally Posted by Raymann
So you see that strict Islamic Law does more to let rape cases go unpunished and unreported than it does to deter rapists from committing this crime.
If you really studied Islamic law correctly--which you haven't--then you'd see that if it were practiced (which it commonly isn't) the islamic punishment would be a great deterrent against rape, and an islamic environment actually may even eradicate rape. Your conclusion is based on wrongful assumptions of what you believe to be true, so I hope some of your assumptions have been corrected. And again, there are cultural problems when it comes to rape which have absolutely nothing to do with Islam even though the majority population is Muslim. This is probably where many of your misconceptions stem from.
Lets look at one of the most common rape cases.A man rapes a married woman.
He knows the penalty for rape is death under strict Islamic Law.He also knows she would get stoned to death under strict Islamic Law and probably will refresh her memory about it.
Accusing a man of rape automatically means she is admitting having sex outside of marriage. Under strict Islamic Law that is "Adultery" and is penalized by stoning to death.
Where do you get your misinformation from? The victim is not punished in Islam. See the quote:
Imam Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
In our view the man who rapes a woman, whether she is a virgin or not, if she is a free woman he must pay a “dowry” like that of her peers, and if she is a slave he must pay whatever has been detracted from her value. The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the case. End quote.
Al-Muwatta’, 2/734 https://islamqa.info/en/72338
Anyways, in your generic scenario, under Islamic law a woman is not convicted of adultery if she is raped. Rape is a different case in which forcible intercourse is involved, not voluntary adultery, so the only person that would be convicted and punished is the man in question. The woman's honor is always protected and fought for.
Here are two cases that seem to contradict your statement. These women were convicted for having sex outside of marriage even though they claimed they were raped. Adultery is the charge if the woman is married, Fornication if she is single.
How can you explain it?
Now these women are foreigners (westerners) and don't know what any Muslim person knows.
No Muslim women would accuse a rapist, she knows better. It would become just another unreported case.
Where do you get your misinformation from? The victim is not punished in Islam. See the quote:
I think you are getting worse misinformation than me. The following is a quote from the link you provided:
Rape is essentially zina (fornication or adultery) and is proven in the same way as zina is proven, which is with four witnesses. The punishment is one hundred lashes if the man was a virgin and stoning if he was previously married. According to my research the four witnesses are only required on an "Adultery" accusation, not on a rape case.
Someone knowledgeable correct me if I'm wrong.
Brief introduction, purpose for signing on this forum and question. Introduction:
I'm a westerner living in New York City who considers himself a mix of Atheist and Agnostic.I grew up in a Catholic family so my morals, culture and personality have been heavily influenced by Christianity. Purpose:
In the world that I live, Islam is the topic of conversation very often from the past 20 years or so.Before that time I knew very little about Islam and Muslims.I have a passion for researching the topics I find interesting.I get my information from mass media, the internet,(forums, youtube, etc), and electronic books (Quran, Bible, etc)I have heard bad things about the Islamic World, things that are strange and incompatible with the way I live.So I'm here because I want to hear from Muslims themselves if the bad things I hear are misinterpreted or that really Islamic culture is too different from Western culture and therefore incompatible. Can we live side by side? Or sooner or later it is going to explode?
I know many Muslims now but I have never been a real friend with any of them.I find them a little intimidating, they seem to be always in the defensive and ready to jump at you.Whatever I say is quickly responded by a :Can you defend your claim? or Can you prove what you're saying? or can you provide a link to prove it? or that is not in the Quran, or get your facts straight. So you can understand what I mean by being intimidated by some very intense Muslims. My question and topic today is "Rape in Islamic Countries"
My research indicates that there's a huge flaw in Islamic Countries that allow "Most rape cases to go unpunished" and unreported. Men know they can get away with rape and women wouldn't dare to accuse a man of rape and risking her life by doing so (Adultery)
Is it true? Who's fault is it? Islamic Law, Muslim Jurists? Wrong interpretation of Islamic Scriptures? or What?
Rape is classified as Hirabah, and the punishment for this is laid down in the Quran:
"The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter."
(Muhsin Ali Khan English translation of the meaning of the Quran)
Ibn Qudaamah said in Al-Mughni, “The woman forced into intercourse is not liable for the hadd of zina according to the majority of scholars. There is no difference between forcing her by physically overcoming her or by making threats to kill her or the like.” [Al-Mughni]
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