We are in danger of committing shirk without us knowing..time Muslims wake up... (OP)
Hey Guys,
I was listening to a very, very, very good Islamic lecture and what the sheikh said terrified me. Without us knowing we thought having paper money and using cheques, money order, etc are all ok and halal where in in fact they are all haraam. All Muslim countries use these monetary money system and use banking in their countries and banking use interest and cash money and all of that are haraam. The only halal way of doing transaction is dinharm and dinar (gold and silver) that is it. The Jews know this. They are busy preparing their economical system in such means that they will be using only dinharm and dinar and nothing else and they are in process of working and maybe in 10 to 20 years from now that is what they will be using. The Jews also know interest is haraam, so they are forbidding interest in their society but allowing everyone else doing interest. Problem of us Muslims we thought that using cash money is halal and if you ask majority of them they all agree it is halal and will debate and argue with you (which makes it worse) where in fact it is haraam. Those people end up Mushrikeen without them knowing. I believe in my heart that using cash money, visa, online banking, etc are all haraam means but problem I have is I cannot go about using the halal conventional means of transaction. So I am going to email this shiekh and ask him very important question to help me avoid been a Mushrik without me knowing. But for now..I believe in my heart and admit and say I am doing haraam, but I want to see what to do to avoid doing this. We Muslims are in danger.
Danger.
Danger.
Danger.
We are too focused on worldly things when jahannam is coming close to us without knowing it and we are all asleep.
People wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Let us save our skins while we still have the chance to save them.
Last edited by xboxisdead; 09-13-2018 at 01:50 PM.
Wait...you are complaining that he did not spoon feed someone about what is halaal and what is haraam? I am sure the most lowest level of Muslim already knows that riba, gays and homosexuality are haraam. I hope he does not believe that the majority of the audience are too idiot to figure that out...because if he have to go and explain it as spoon feeding people like they are bunch of moron than we are in big trouble. He is not teaching halal and haram here..his targeted audience are assumed already know what is halal and what is haram in the very obvious part since those are already taught us when we re little children. I also assume when he is been sarcastic that we are not too stupid to start to misinterpret that homosexuality is halal....because if we are that...sorry to say..lack of reasoning and intellect then my friend...I am going to cry blood for my brothers and sisters because we are more in trouble than I thought......I will be crying all the blood in my body then if that is the case.
I'm not complaining at all - rather i am informing him that he may inadvertently be undoing his words since positive receptors open on positive notes and stimuli - in this case - a positive nodding voice.
The human brain is a very primitive piece of biological hardware and has limitations, hence regardless of how intelligent and/or knowledgeable a person is - his/her brain's channels can be hacked through simple mechanisms such as the conditioning of Baby Albert with cooing and growling - also look into the research of Ian Pavlov in order to understand what i'm getting at.
The music industry uses such mechanisms with the aim of allowing falsehood to flow through wide open channels in the brain, abd Allah also uses mechanisms such as rhyming verse to make it easier for even the layman to retain truthful and sound logic.
Re: We are in danger of committing shirk without us knowing..time Muslims wake up...
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
I'm not complaining at all - rather i am informing him that he may inadvertently be undoing his words since positive receptors open on positive notes and stimuli - in this case - a positive nodding voice.
The human brain is a very primitive piece of biological hardware and has limitations, hence regardless of how intelligent and/or knowledgeable a person is - his/her brain's channels can be hacked through simple mechanisms such as the conditioning of Baby Albert with cooing and growling - also look into the research of Ian Pavlov in order to understand what i'm getting at.
The music industry uses such mechanisms with the aim of allowing falsehood to flow through wide open channels in the brain, abd Allah also uses mechanisms such as rhyming verse to make it easier for even the layman to retain truthful and sound logic.
Thank you so much for turning me into a primitive BIOS of a primitive computer system -_-...That really makes a man feel like a man! And here I thought human brain was a complex thing...but we are 10 lines of C++ code apparently.
Re: We are in danger of committing shirk without us knowing..time Muslims wake up...
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Thank you so much for turning me into a primitive BIOS of a primitive computer system -_-...That really makes a man feel like a man! And here I thought human brain was a complex thing...but we are 10 lines of C++ code apparently.
Lol what i am saying is simple - confirming a false and unjust reality removes the shock factor and puts the client in the false matrix, i.e such an antisuggestion induces: "i'm already in hot water - how much more worse can it get".
Confirming the facts, clarifying the consequences, and prescribing the solution if possible actually leaves the edge of the shock factor on with zero warmth - and jolts the subject to want to never fall into it - it is more difficult for the subject to hopelessly resign to such a hapless situation if he/she knows that not everybody has fallen - this method is also used in elections (eg. Bush has taken florida).
George orwell (who used to work for the bbc) knew exactly how it works when he conjured up the party slogan.
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
You might want to add brother imraan's "unlawful is lawful" to that since he has us living in orwellia even before the battle is over.
Re: We are in danger of committing shirk without us knowing..time Muslims wake up...
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
Lol what i am saying is simple - confirming a false and unjust reality removes the shock factor and puts the client in the false matrix, i.e such an antisuggestion induces: "i'm already in hot water - how much more worse can it get".
Confirming the facts, clarifying the consequences, and prescribing the solution if possible actually leaves the edge of the shock factor on with zero warmth - and jolts the subject to want to act before it becomes a reality for everyone - it is more difficult for the subject to resign to such a situation if he/she knows that not everybody has fallen - this method is also used in elections (eg. Bush has taken florida).
George orwell (who used to work for the bbc) knew exactly how it works when he conjured up the party slogan.
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
You might want to add brother imraan's "unlawful is lawful" to that since he has us living in orwellia even before the battle is over.
I understand what you are saying hehe.....but next time can you not turn us into primitive C++ code? lol!
Now consider that silver coin in the middle east was .999 purity - and that the romans started meseeing with theirs.
Then it reached a stage in England that it reached 92.5% purity through dilution of baser metals around the time of the crusades.
This dodgy silver was later named "sterling silver" and 240 pennies of sterling silver would weigh 1 lb i.e one pound or .454 kg in weight on the scales - and this was known as one pound of sterling silver.
Now one pound of sterling silver costs 157.03 ÷100 x92.5 = 145.2481065 GBPounds sterling. As of 15-09-2018 according to the current silverprice.org estimate.
Now tell me that it's not a scam and i'll tell you you're an advocate for "friends of israel"
Which maths teacher would accept that 1=145.25 and get their students to do equations based on it - other than one who's name has rothschild at the end of it?
Now consider that silver coin in the middle east was .999 purity - and that the romans started meseeing with theirs.
Then it reached a stage in England that it reached 92.5% purity through dilution of baser metals around the time of the crusades.
This dodgy silver was later named "sterling silver" and 240 pennies of sterling silver would weigh 1 lb i.e one pound or .454 kg in weight on the scales - and this was known as one pound of sterling silver.
Now one pound of sterling silver costs 157.03 ÷100 x92.5 = 145.2481065 GBPounds sterling. As of 15-09-2018 according to the current silverprice.org estimate.
Now tell me that it's not a scam and i'll tell you you're a jew.
hehehe....I like you. I feel cozzy... You are a very smart man
- rubs my eyes - I really want to the read the blog in that website...but mmaaaan....- rubs eyes and closes them tight - the theme of the websites causes your eyes ...to get ...to see letters and words everywhere and you get a throbbing headache...- rubs eyes - this is not appealing. I am going to copy it in a notepad and read it that way.
Last edited by xboxisdead; 09-15-2018 at 04:52 AM.
Re: We are in danger of committing shirk without us knowing..time Muslims wake up...
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
hehehe....I like you. I feel cozzy... You are a very smart man
- rubs my eyes - I really want to the read the blog in that website...but mmaaaan....- rubs eyes and closes them tight - the theme of the websites causes your eyes ...to get ...to see letters and words everywhere and you get a throbbing headache...- rubs eyes - this is not appealing. I am going to copy it in a notepad and read it that way.
the bit about crypto-currencies at the end is actually a bigger scam though - since with that - the userer doesn't have to worry about a single credit leaving the banking system - ensuring the ability of the usury cartel to hold 100% purchasing power over every saleable item in any land where such smoke is accepted.
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The Fiat Currency Fraud
Richard Russell
Richard Russell, one of the world’s most knowledgeable and respected financial advisors recently stated that fiat money is “the greatest fraud ever perpetuated on the American public.” Fiat money is paper currency, backed by nothing of intrinsic value – currency that derives its value solely by the faith placed in it by the people and nations who hold it. Every fiat currency in the history of the world has been devalued by government to the point that it has eventually been rendered worthless. Russell, in a recent article entitled “Fiat Money is Headed to the Graveyard, And The Gold Boom Hasn’t Even Begun” writes, “In the big picture, I believe we’re going to put fiat currency to the test. Fiat money allowed the U.S. to experience boom. Fiat money produced the tech bust, the equities bust and the housing bust. Fiat money is the vehicle that is created and sponsored by the world’s central banks. Fiat money will prove to be a fraud. Out of the graveyard of fiat money will emerge real intrinsic money – gold.”
In an exclusive interview with Monex, Russell commenting on the creation of paper money and the danger fiat currency presents to the American people stated,
“In my life, I can see what has happened to the purchasing power of the dollar, it’s been destroyed. To me it’s immoral – for savers, people who’ve saved their entire lives to find that the purchasing power of what they’ve saved is worth nothing.”
“People who are saving dollars, it’s going to be a tragedy, those dollars are losing purchasing power and people who have been able to save their whole lives are going to find out what I found out with my GI insurance policy – it’s not worth anything now. The real insurance policy is gold.”
“The history of paper currencies is that they all end up museum pieces, none of them have ever lasted, so if you were to ask me, ‘what would you leave your great-great grandkids say a 100 years from now, 75 years from now, the only answer I would give you is gold. Gold will be money, gold will be an item of value as far as you can look into the future. There’s nothing else that I can say that about.”
Russell is among a respected group of individuals who have spoken out with bold conviction to sound the alarm to warn citizens regarding the tragic fate of nations who, throughout history, have ignored proper financial constraints and turned their backs on real money, in favor of what would eventually be their downfall – fiat currency.
Consider the following quotes, derived from a wide range of respected authors, economists, and statesmen:
Ludwig von Mises
“Government is the only institution that can take a valuable commodity like paper, and make it worthless by applying ink....How pale is the art of sorcerers, witches, and conjurors when compared with that of the government’s Treasury Department.”
Austrian Economist, Ludwig von Mises (1881-1973)
Sir Thomas Gresham
“Bad money drives out good.”
(Lord Gresham’s Law)
“The Theory of Money and Credit” Sir Thomas Gresham (1519-1579)
Daniel Webster“Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none has been more effective than that which deludes them with paper money.”
Daniel Webster (1782-1852)
“Insanity is calling scraps of paper with meaningless numbers backed by nothing but debt a thing of value.”
Jim Sinclair (Founder Jim Sinclair’s Mine Set (www.jsmineset.com)
“In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation [...] Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the “hidden” confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights.”
“Gold and Economic Freedom” - Alan Greenspan, Former Fed Chairman (1968)
Thomas Paine
“Paper money is like dram-drinking, it relieves for a moment by deceitful sensation, but gradually diminishes the natural heat, and leaves the body worse than it found it. Were not this the case, and could money be made of paper at pleasure, every sovereign in Europe would be as rich as he pleased. But the truth is, that it is a bubble and the attempt vanity. Nature has provided the proper materials for money: gold and silver, and any attempt of ours to rival her is ridiculous....”
Thomas Paine (1737-1809)
Thomas Jefferson
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
John Maynard Keynes
“By this means (fractional reserve banking) government may secretly and unobserved, confiscate the wealth of the people, and not one man in a million will detect the theft.”
John Maynard Keynes (1883-1946), The Economic Consequences of the Peace (1919)
Amschel Rothschild
“Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.”
Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812)
Henry Ford
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before morning.”
Henry Ford (1863-1947)
Lord Josiah Stamp
“The modern banking process manufactures currency out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of slight hand that was ever invented...If you want to be slaves of the bankers, and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the banks create currency”.
Lord Josiah Stamp, Former Director of the Bank of England (1880-1941)
Robert Wiedemer
“Based entirely on logic, and the evidence at hand, the dollar can and will fall...Unfortunately, falling bubbles are exactly what we have, and a decline in the massive inflow of foreign capital to the United States is all it will take to start bringing the dollar (and all the other bubbles) down.”
“Aftershock” (Protect Yourself and Profit in the Next Global Financial Meltdown)
Authors - David Wiedemer, PhD, Robert Wiedemer, Cindy Spitzer
Re: We are in danger of committing shirk without us knowing..time Muslims wake up...
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Here he talks about it.
Masha'Allah, May Allah reward him immensely and you for sharing. Ameen. I understand better what is meant, however this shirk is moreso a problem for our leaders and we are only obligated to inform them and take necessary measures on a personal/familial/communal level (imho). In the fairness and justice of our Rabb, it is not possible to be accountable for that which is beyond our control and capabilities.
Regarding, the 'halal being haram' view. This may have been taken from the Quran in which there is a direct warning, such as:
"And do not say about what your tongues assert of untruth, "This is lawful and this is unlawful," to invent falsehood about Allah . Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed." (Quran 16:116)
As with giving a scholarly ruling some seem to use the 'making what is halal to be haram' for a similar warning or admonishing. Maybe, this is where it has originated? (similar ayahs)
Re: We are in danger of committing shirk without us knowing..time Muslims wake up...
format_quote Originally Posted by Nuri
Masha'Allah, May Allah reward him immensely and you for sharing. Ameen. I understand better what is meant, however this shirk is moreso a problem for our leaders and we are only obligated to inform them and take necessary measures on a personal/familial/communal level (imho). In the fairness and justice of our Rabb, it is not possible to be accountable for that which is beyond our control and capabilities.
Regarding, the 'halal being haram' view. This may have been taken from the Quran in which there is a direct warning, such as:
"And do not say about what your tongues assert of untruth, "This is lawful and this is unlawful," to invent falsehood about Allah . Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed." (Quran 16:116)
As with giving a scholarly ruling some seem to use the 'making what is halal to be haram' for a similar warning or admonishing. Maybe, this is where it has originated? (similar ayahs)
Allah knows best,
-will go through the rest, later.
Thank you sister for those comforting words...my biggest fear is to die mushrik and what is more horror than a virus epidemic is to know you are in it and not know you are part of it. That is my nightmare everyday...I want so badly to live in Muslim world....I want it...I crave it...I need it. I need to hear Athaan every day from duhir till fajir...I need it like I need oxygen to breath. I want to wake up...make ablution....and walk in that street as the athaan is calling so I pray with thousands of Muslims with me...my heart desire it. Human being is created to worship Allah....he is created for that purpose alone...it is abnormal to his nature to do otherwise.................
How much as Muslims are we asleep? Damn...damn..damn we are so asleep it is not even funny. We are like walking zombies....and we need to wake up now before we wake up in the grave as the two angels question us....what waking up then will do to us? I have been asleep this long about monetary system and how economy and money is and it is only for the past 3 to 4 days I am awake on that???!! THEN HOW MUCH OF ASLEEP I AM still and ignorant I am in my religion...I am terrified with fear. Did you know that cell phones by the way are destroying the boy gene? Radio wave and WiFi are wiping out the boy gene...like wiping it clean....how many parents had cell phones to their boys or laptops and not care. What is worse...it does not matter if you do not hand them the devices because the radio wave in the air is doing the job. Singapore each year less and less and less boys are been born. There is already a crisis there where sisters are not finding husbands. Their just not find any. The sisters are going to the mosques and crying...weeping and begging to find a husband and they are not finding them. What are we doing to stop that? Nothing. Because we are asleep like zombies. We just are. It is a mess.
Today I realized also that the people in the masjid who are doing khutba are so engrossed in their worldly affair when I hear them talk..I am not recharged. I don't feel anything. But this guy..through youtube...from across the world..prerecorded already is getting me hyped and awake....we need more like him to wake us up. To make us ponder. To make us shake a little bit. I have not seen one in any mosque where I live in Canada, BC have done that. Sorry. You know what made me so upset too...this sheikh said that it is obligatory for a Muslim man who have means to marry because it is the right of the woman to have a husband and if you do not get married you will be questioned. So I was scared. Again...I was asleep. I ran to the mosque and told them my age and my salary and I am not married...and funny thing...they did not push me to get married. They did not say..hey..this is a Muslim brother ..he is a good person...he is not married until this age..this is wrong....and we have sisters who need to find a husband...let us make it easy to him to help him find a wife who is ok with a brother who makes minimum wage..and so on. Like an action ..to show there is an actual Muslim community who are helping each other and uniting with each other. HECK even say...you know what...let us help him find a better job..so he makes good money and help him find a wife...and we will get huge reward for that...
you know...
SOMETHING LIKE THAT....
Nothing....
....
N o t h i n g!
We are all like cattle sheep all intrinsic in our self affairs...no unity.
Last edited by xboxisdead; 09-15-2018 at 07:00 AM.
Re: We are in danger of committing shirk without us knowing..time Muslims wake up...
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Thank you sister for those comforting words...my biggest fear is to die mushrik and what is more horror than a virus epidemic is to know you are in it and not know you are part of it. That is my nightmare everyday...I want so badly to live in Muslim world....I want it...I crave it...I need it. I need to hear Athaan every day from duhir till fajir...I need it like I need oxygen to breath. I want to wake up...make ablution....and walk in that street as the athaan is calling so I pray with thousands of Muslims with me...my heart desire it. Human being is created to worship Allah....he is created for that purpose alone...it is abnormal to his nature to do otherwise.................
How much as Muslims are we asleep? Damn...damn..damn we are so asleep it is not even funny. We are like walking zombies....and we need to wake up now before we wake up in the grave as the two angels question us....what waking up then will do to us? I have been asleep this long about monetary system and how economy and money is and it is only for the past 3 to 4 days I am awake on that???!! THEN HOW MUCH OF ASLEEP I AM still and ignorant I am in my religion...I am terrified with fear. Did you know that cell phones by the way are destroying the boy gene? Radio wave and WiFi are wiping out the boy gene...like wiping it clean....how many parents had cell phones to their boys or laptops and not care. What is worse...it does not matter if you do not hand them the devices because the radio wave in the air is doing the job. Singapore each year less and less and less boys are been born. There is already a crisis there where sisters are not finding husbands. Their just not find any. The sisters are going to the mosques and crying...weeping and begging to find a husband and they are not finding them. What are we doing to stop that? Nothing. Because we are asleep like zombies. We just are. It is a mess.
Today I realized also that the people in the masjid who are doing khutba are so engrossed in their worldly affair when I hear them talk..I am not recharged. I don't feel anything. But this guy..through youtube...from across the world..prerecorded already is getting me hyped and awake....we need more like him to wake us up. To make us ponder. To make us shake a little bit. I have not seen one in any mosque where I live in Canada, BC have done that. Sorry. You know what made me so upset too...this sheikh said that it is obligatory for a Muslim man who have means to marry because it is the right of the woman to have a husband and if you do not get married you will be questioned. So I was scared. Again...I was asleep. I ran to the mosque and told them my age and my salary and I am not married...and funny thing...they did not push me to get married. They did not say..hey..this is a Muslim brother ..he is a good person...he is not married until this age..this is wrong....and we have sisters who need to find a husband...let us make it easy to him to help him find a wife who is ok with a brother who makes minimum wage..and so on. Like an action ..to show there is an actual Muslim community who are helping each other and uniting with each other. HECK even say...you know what...let us help him find a better job..so he makes good money and help him find a wife...and we will get huge reward for that...
you know...
SOMETHING LIKE THAT....
Nothing....
....
N o t h i n g!
We are all like cattle sheep all intrinsic in our self affairs...no unity.
Before you think about leaving for a Muslim world, understand that sometimes these places are not corruption free. But, may Allah swt give and guide you to what is best. (for your life in this world and the hereafter - and for us all) Ameen. By the way, I have only given my initial view, surely speaking to this particular scholar and other scholars you will get the best understanding possible. Compared to them, my view is irrelevant. However, I'd remind that a believer need to be balanced between fear and hope. If, there's more fear presented than it means more righteous actions are required. We were placed at this time and therefore we must have what it takes to deal with situations and events. Thank you for the tip with cellphones, I'm aware and have limited my use as well as microwaves and likewise the internet. Need to disconnect some more. Inshaa'Allah.
Re: We are in danger of committing shirk without us knowing..time Muslims wake up...
format_quote Originally Posted by Nuri
Before you think about leaving for a Muslim world, understand that sometimes these places are not corruption free. But, may Allah swt give and guide you to what is best. (for your life in this world and the hereafter - and for us all) Ameen. By the way, I have only given my initial view, surely speaking to this particular scholar and other scholars you will get the best understanding possible. Compared to them, my view is irrelevant. However, I'd remind that a believer need to be balanced between fear and hope. If, there's more fear presented than it means more righteous actions are required. We were placed at this time and therefore we must have what it takes to deal with situations and events. Thank you for the tip with cellphones, I'm aware and have limited my use as well as microwaves and likewise the internet. Need to disconnect some more. Inshaa'Allah.
Some of you are very informative, Masha'Allah. JazaakAllahu khairan to everyone whom I'm learning, brother Abz thank you for sharing your knowledge.
By the way there is an azan app that can be installed on mobiles. There is one for laptops too - Islamicfinder
Thank you sister for those kind words. And yes...if you have sons..slap them on the back of their heads if you have too...but never let them use cells phones and especially DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING HOT on their laps...and especially a laptop. Besides these technologies are harming our children more than good. It used to be a time where children where way more advanced than nowadays...TVs, cell phones, computers, video games, playstations, etc...they are damaging the minds of our youth...removing their ability to have long attention span, read books, comprehend, use their imaginations...have critical thinking, able to comprehend, have social skills, have good physical body and the ones who are more harmed are the boys. This is destructive to civilization at the highest core. Girls too will be harmed if they keep watching TVs and using technology by the way...they are not immune to this. We human beings where not created to sit in front of a square screen with bombarding images at all....our intake of food is also harmful to us...processed food, hormones in meat...genetically modified vegetables and foods, processed food...too much unnatural sugar..by the way..sugar and carbohydrate harms the brain and causes it to be dull and lack of thinking and attention span....
Please...please...please if you have children..home school them. Trust me. They are not missing much in public school (especially in Canada). All they are missing been mixed with opposite gender, if you have sons all they will be missing that are taught homosexuality is ok, or have naked female teachers teaching them..or have special pressure in society in school to have girlfriends or knocking a girl up or been sued for false sexual allegation as in the West we LOVE SAYING THIS MAN raped me or this boy raped me...we LOVE IT HERE...we LOVE destroying men and boys under guise of allegation and rape...oh we love it in Canada and USA. Sooo..yeah....they are not missing much.
I will never forget the day at high school when the female math teacher have her skirt up I can <blank> and she lay there on the table putting her feet on the other and I lost focus on her math lecture and where more focused on the boys in the class who are watching her and I was rolling my eyes.
That my brothers and sisters what kufar Western school provide us....pretty much and that was like 15 to 20 years ago...I cannot imagine how bad it is now.
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