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    The following are some comments of scientists[1] on the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran.

    1) Dr. T. V. N. Persaud is Professor of Anatomy, Professor of Pediatrics and Child Health, and Professor of Obstetrics, Gynecology, and Reproductive Sciences at the University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. There, he was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy for 16 years. He is well-known in his field. He is the author or editor of 22 textbooks and has published over 181 scientific papers. In 1991, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. When he was asked about the scientific miracles in the Quran which he has researched, he stated the following:

    “The way it was explained to me is that Muhammad was a very ordinary man. He could not read, didn’t know [how] to write. In fact, he was an illiterate. And we’re talking about twelve [actually about fourteen] hundred years ago. You have someone illiterate making profound pronouncements and statements and that are amazingly accurate about scientific nature. And I personally can’t see how this could be a mere chance. There are too many accuracies and, like Dr. Moore, I have no difficulty in my mind that this is a divine inspiration or revelation which led him to these statements.”


    Professor Persaud has included some Quranic verses and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, in some of his books. He has also presented these verses and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad at several conferences.

    2) Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson is the Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Professor of Molecular and Human Genetics at the Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA. Formerly, he was Professor of Ob-Gyn and the Chairman of the Department of Ob-Gyn at the University of Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee, USA. He was also the President of the American Fertility Society. He has received many awards, including the Association of Professors of Obstetrics and Gynecology Public Recognition Award in 1992. Professor Simpson studied the following two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad:

    “In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days...”[2]

    “If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones....”[3]

    He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:

    “So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.”

    3) Dr. E. Marshall Johnson is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Developmental Biology at Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. There, for 22 years he was Professor of Anatomy, the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy, and the Director of the Daniel Baugh Institute. He was also the President of the Teratology Society. He has authored more than 200 publications. In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Johnson said in the presentation of his research paper:

    “Summary: The Quran describes not only the development of external form, but emphasizes also the internal stages, the stages inside the embryo, of its creation and development, emphasizing major events recognized by contemporary science.”

    Also he said: “As a scientist, I can only deal with things which I can specifically see. I can understand embryology and developmental biology. I can understand the words that are translated to me from the Quran. As I gave the example before, if I were to transpose myself into that era, knowing what I knew today and describing things, I could not describe the things which were described. I see no evidence for the fact to refute the concept that this individual, Muhammad, had to be developing this information from some place. So I see nothing here in conflict with the concept that divine intervention was involved in what he was able to write.


    4) Dr. William W. Hay is a well-known marine scientist. He is Professor of Geological Sciences at the University of Colorado, Boulder, Colorado, USA. He was formerly the Dean of the Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science at the University of Miami, Miami, Florida, USA. After a discussion with Professor Hay about the Quran’s mention of recently discovered facts on seas, he said:

    “I find it very interesting that this sort of information is in the ancient scriptures of the Holy Quran, and I have no way of knowing where they would come from, but I think it is extremely interesting that they are there and that this work is going on to discover it, the meaning of some of the passages.” And when he was asked about the source of the Quran, he replied: “Well, I would think it must be the divine being.”


    5) Dr. Gerald C. Goeringer is Course Director and Associate Professor of Medical Embryology at the Department of Cell Biology, School of Medicine, Georgetown University, Washington, DC, USA. During the Eighth Saudi Medical Conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Professor Goeringer stated the following in the presentation of his research paper:

    “In a relatively few aayahs (Quranic verses) is contained a rather comprehensive description of human development from the time of commingling of the gametes through organogenesis. No such distinct and complete record of human development, such as classification, terminology, and description, existed previously. In most, if not all, instances, this description antedates by many centuries the recording of the various stages of human embryonic and fetal development recorded in the traditional scientific literature.”


    6) Dr. Yoshihide Kozai is Professor Emeritus at Tokyo University, Hongo, Tokyo, Japan, and was the Director of the National Astronomical Observatory, Mitaka, Tokyo, Japan. He said:

    “I am very much impressed by finding true astronomical facts in [the] Quran, and for us the modern astronomers have been studying very small pieces of the universe. We’ve concentrated our efforts for understanding of [a] very small part. Because by using telescopes, we can see only very few parts [of] the sky without thinking [about the] whole universe. So, by reading [the] Quran and by answering to the questions, I think I can find my future way for investigation of the universe.”


    7) Professor Tejatat Tejasen is the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy at Chiang Mai University, Chiang Mai, Thailand. Previously, he was the Dean of the Faculty of Medicine at the same university. During the Eighth Saudi Medical Conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Professor Tejasen stood up and said:

    “During the last three years, I became interested in the Quran . . . . From my study and what I have learned from this conference, I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Quran fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means. Since the Prophet Muhammad could neither read nor write, Muhammad must be a messenger who relayed this truth, which was revealed to him as an enlightenment by the one who is eligible [as the] creator.

    This creator must be God. Therefore, I think this is the time to say La ilaha illa Allah, there is no god to worship except Allah (God), Muhammadur rasoolu Allah, Muhammad is Messenger (Prophet) of Allah (God). Lastly, I must congratulate for the excellent and highly successful arrangement for this conference . . . . I have gained not only from the scientific point of view and religious point of view but also the great chance of meeting many well-known scientists and making many new friends among the participants. The most precious thing of all that I have gained by coming to this place is La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadur rasoolu Allah, and to have become a Muslim.”



    After all these examples we have seen about the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran and all these scientists’ comments on this, let us ask ourselves these questions:

    • Could it be a coincidence that all this recently discovered scientific information from different fields was mentioned in the Quran, which was revealed fourteen centuries ago?

    • Could this Quran have been authored by Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, or by any other human being?

    The only possible answer is that this Quran must be the literal word of God, revealed by Him.
    القرآن الكريم والعلم الحديث كاملة The Quran and Modern Science full Zakir naik youtube
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000 View Post
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    True, and i genuinely very much appreciate the fact that you give that critical point of view on behalf of other Muslims which speaks to readers who may roll their eyes and say "what.....ever" ,

    But..... it is useful to take into account that the Prophet lived in the Arabian Peninsula and his initial job was local shepherding, and his second significant job was travelling north in caravans for trade in cattle - and these places were quite dry, so to imagine him musing about all that stuff accurately without making mistakes is an accumulating pointer -even if not evidence- to his not having been speaking of himself.

    These people used to have to travel very far out just to learn to swim in large pools of water for military training during the time of 'Umar ibn al khattaab - otherwse it was mainly wells, pitchers, and an occasional much celebrated fountain.

    Also - the fact that it is mentioned in a matter of fact manner in parable to the situation of people lost in layers of hawaa for judgement is an evidence that it wasn't being promoted as a scientific wow in and of itself - rather, the subtle nature of the parable itself is the astounding part which forces a person to stop and think of the psychology of those whose judgements have no firm grounding and whose minds are in a state of self and secular media induced turbulence.

    I honestly can't think of a more fitting parable in context of the psychology.
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    Re: Scientists and ......!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000 View Post
    The opinion of the takfiri shaikh you mention is not a factor in my calculations if his opinion goes against the clear signs which Allah has revealed to us. It is what Allah guides us to and enjoins upon us that is to be considered with humility in our choices if we are to be successful in this world and in the aakhirah.

    ....Amma ba'd....

    How Adam was in paradise before he was caused to come to earth - is not necessarily the same as he was when he was made to appear on earth - Just as it is true that the offspring of Adam were taken from his back and made to testify to the Mastery of Allah - but were caused to come into being on earth over millenia or more - through a biological process very similar to that of other creatures -especially mammals. All indications - including Quranic - point to a process of appearance on earth - and i believe that Adam too came to earth through a biological process - (unlike the way mr. Bean is portrayed in the intro) and was given guidance when it was his time as the first species described as insaan - just as Musa was chosen before his birth and brought up under the sight of Allah and guided to his role - after the inspiration to his mother, floating through the nile, growing up in the house of pharaoh, killing a man, living in Madian.....

    Ta Ha 20:39

    أَنِ ٱقْذِفِيهِ فِى ٱلتَّابُوتِ فَٱقْذِفِيهِ فِى ٱلْيَمِّ فَلْيُلْقِهِ ٱلْيَمُّ بِٱلسَّاحِلِ يَأْخُذْهُ عَدُوٌّ لِّى وَعَدُوٌّ لَّهُۥۚ وَأَلْقَيْتُ عَلَيْكَ مَحَبَّةً مِّنِّى وَلِتُصْنَعَ عَلَىٰ عَيْنِىٓ

    "'Throw (the child) into the chest, and throw (the chest) into the river: the river will cast him up on the bank, and he will be taken up by one who is an enemy to Me and an enemy to him': But I cast (the garment of) love over thee from Me: and (this) in order that thou mayest be reared under Mine eye.


    Ta Ha 20:40

    إِذْ تَمْشِىٓ أُخْتُكَ فَتَقُولُ هَلْ أَدُلُّكُمْ عَلَىٰ مَن يَكْفُلُهُۥۖ فَرَجَعْنَٰكَ إِلَىٰٓ أُمِّكَ كَىْ تَقَرَّ عَيْنُهَا وَلَا تَحْزَنَۚ وَقَتَلْتَ نَفْسًا فَنَجَّيْنَٰكَ مِنَ ٱلْغَمِّ وَفَتَنَّٰكَ فُتُونًاۚ فَلَبِثْتَ سِنِينَ فِىٓ أَهْلِ مَدْيَنَ ثُمَّ جِئْتَ عَلَىٰ قَدَرٍ يَٰمُوسَىٰ

    "Behold! thy sister goeth forth and saith, 'shall I show you one who will nurse and rear the (child)?' So We brought thee back to thy mother, that her eye might be cooled and she should not grieve. Then thou didst slay a man, but We saved thee from trouble, and We tried thee in various ways. Then didst thou tarry a number of years with the people of Midian. Then didst thou come hither as ordained, O Moses!




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYOWIdPHXts



    Aal-e-Imran 3:59

    إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ ءَادَمَۖ خَلَقَهُۥ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ

    The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.


    Maryam 19:16

    وَٱذْكُرْ فِى ٱلْكِتَٰبِ مَرْيَمَ إِذِ ٱنتَبَذَتْ مِنْ أَهْلِهَا مَكَانًا شَرْقِيًّا

    Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East

    ....

    Maryam 19:21

    قَالَ كَذَٰلِكِ قَالَ رَبُّكِ هُوَ عَلَىَّ هَيِّنٌۖ وَلِنَجْعَلَهُۥٓ ءَايَةً لِّلنَّاسِ وَرَحْمَةً مِّنَّاۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرًا مَّقْضِيًّا

    He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us': It is a matter (so) decreed."

    ....Maryam 19:22

    فَحَمَلَتْهُ فَٱنتَبَذَتْ بِهِۦ مَكَانًا قَصِيًّا

    So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place.

    Maryam 19:23

    فَأَجَآءَهَا ٱلْمَخَاضُ إِلَىٰ جِذْعِ ٱلنَّخْلَةِ قَالَتْ يَٰلَيْتَنِى مِتُّ قَبْلَ هَٰذَا وَكُنتُ نَسْيًا مَّنسِيًّا

    And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree: She cried (in her anguish): "Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!"

    Maryam 19:24

    فَنَادَىٰهَا مِن تَحْتِهَآ أَلَّا تَحْزَنِى قَدْ جَعَلَ رَبُّكِ تَحْتَكِ سَرِيًّا

    But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-tree): "Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee;

    Maryam 19:25

    وَهُزِّىٓ إِلَيْكِ بِجِذْعِ ٱلنَّخْلَةِ تُسَٰقِطْ عَلَيْكِ رُطَبًا جَنِيًّا

    "And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree: It will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.

    Maryam 19:26

    فَكُلِى وَٱشْرَبِى وَقَرِّى عَيْنًاۖ فَإِمَّا تَرَيِنَّ مِنَ ٱلْبَشَرِ أَحَدًا فَقُولِىٓ إِنِّى نَذَرْتُ لِلرَّحْمَٰنِ صَوْمًا فَلَنْ أُكَلِّمَ ٱلْيَوْمَ إِنسِيًّا

    "So eat and drink and cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see any man, say, 'I have vowed a fast to (Allah) Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into not talk with any human being'"

    .....

    Al-Isra' 17:94

    وَمَا مَنَعَ ٱلنَّاسَ أَن يُؤْمِنُوٓا۟ إِذْ جَآءَهُمُ ٱلْهُدَىٰٓ إِلَّآ أَن قَالُوٓا۟ أَبَعَثَ ٱللَّهُ بَشَرًا رَّسُولًا

    What kept people back from belief when Guidance came to them, was nothing but this: they said, "Has Allah sent a man as a Messenger?"
    the term 'takfiri' is used for extremists like isis and alqaeeda or even those khilafa fanatics anjem choudry lot so it doesn't suit this mainstream Shafiee Shaykh. He infact has an article on takfir where he warns against careless takfir: see https://archive.org/stream/NuhHaMimK...akfir_djvu.txt

    His kufr verdict here implies that there is possibly a consensus on this as if there was a valid opinion amongst the four madhabs that it's not kufr then a madhabi scholar doesn't say that it's kufr
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    The term takfir actually has a meaning (look it up) and was used in proper context in my previous post.
    The four respectable madhab scholars are neither God, nor prophets, were not alive during the time when the recent information on research and genetic research became available, and were not 'allaam-al-ghuyoob.

    Islam is not a stagnant religion - but rather it is deen al HAQQ, and it is a living way of life where the primary requirement is to submit to al Haqq, and not to al baatuil.

    Those who argue against the obvious Haqq by clinging on to the opinions of their forefathers despite the clear signs from Allah are simply bandwagon riding sheeple who go into meltdown when confronted by al-Haqq.

    Al Haqq is one of the attributes of Allah
    It is therefore wise to seek al Haqq - and to disregard personal whims and false hawaa which lead to baatuil.

    Also beware of those who fall into the traps of the likes of Abu Jahl who would hound people who began to excercise their minds correctly, by emotionally blackmailing and threatening them through asking them if they were claiming that the religion of Abd al Muttalib and their other forefathers was wrong. Those who think clearly know that being a forefather doesn't essentially make a person correct in all opinions - rather - Allah who knows the unseen and the seen is always the author of complete Al-Haqq, and is in essence Al Haqq -and nobody else's opinion can override Al Haqq via contradiction.

    Accepting the Haqq requires humility, and this is difficult for those whose over-inflated egos lead them to oppose al Haqq.

    Think.
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    the Universe

    At a time when the science of Astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described in Quran:

    “And it is We who have built the Universe with [Our creative] power and keep expanding it.” (Quran 51:47)

    The fact that the universe is expanding was discovered in the last century. The physicist Stephen Hawking in his book ‘A Brief History of Time’ writes, “The discovery that the universe is expanding was one of the great intellectual revolutions of the 20th century.”.

    The Quran mentioned the expansion of the universe even before the invention of the telescope!
    The expansion of universe according to Quran-Dr.Zaghloul Al Najjar

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000 View Post
    The term takfir actually has a meaning (look it up) and was used in proper context in my previous post.
    The four respectable madhab scholars are neither God, nor prophets, were not alive during the time when the recent information on research and genetic research became available, and were not 'allaam-al-ghuyoob.

    Islam is not a stagnant religion - but rather it is deen al HAQQ, and it is a living way of life where the primary requirement is to submit to al Haqq, and not to al baatuil.

    Those who argue against the obvious Haqq by clinging on to the opinions of their forefathers despite the clear signs from Allah are simply bandwagon riding sheeple who go into meltdown when confronted by al-Haqq.

    Al Haqq is one of the attributes of Allah
    It is therefore wise to seek al Haqq - and to disregard personal whims and false hawaa which lead to baatuil.

    Also beware of those who fall into the traps of the likes of Abu Jahl who would hound people who began to excercise their minds correctly, by emotionally blackmailing and threatening them through asking them if they were claiming that the religion of Abd al Muttalib and their other forefathers was wrong. Those who think clearly know that being a forefather doesn't essentially make a person correct in all opinions - rather - Allah who knows the unseen and the seen is always the author of complete Al-Haqq, and is in essence Al Haqq -and nobody else's opinion can override Al Haqq via contradiction.

    Accepting the Haqq requires humility, and this is difficult for those whose over-inflated egos lead them to oppose al Haqq.

    Think.
    MaashAllah that's some good thinking there bro, however let me give you my perspective here:

    A hadith says the way to recognise the correct 'sect' is that they will consist of the majority of Scholars, and the four madhabs who adhere to ashari/Maruridi creed have the majority of Scholars.

    Shaykh Nuh Keller knows this very well so he will not do or say anything regarding the deen that is not in conformity with the consensus.

    This is why I worry for anyone who does not treat this kufr opinion very seriously. The Shaykh is also a Master in Arabic and has explained the only lexical meaning of the word 'bashr' in Quran is 'Man', therefore since Allah has said He has made Bashr from clay then that is what we have to believe and not that Allah first made a molecule and then a tadpole and then amphibian etc etc and then apes and from that, man.

    Now I don't want to continue this talk about 'sects' anymore as it could lead to arguments and just have mentioned it here to emphasise the importance that this opinion should not be taken lightly because it's really just a matter of the majority of Scholars opinion vs the minority's

    Here's the hadith in question;

    1) Imam Abu Dawood (Rahimahullah) has quoted the well known Hadith concerning the division of the Muslim Ummah into seventy-three sects in his Sunan (3/4580, English edn):

    Abu Amir al-Hawdhani said, “Mu’awiyah ibn Abi Sufyan (may Allah be pleased with him) stood among us and said, ‘Beware! The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) stood among us and said’: ‘Beware! The People of the Book before (you) were split up into 72 sects, and this community will be split up into 73, seventy-two of them will go to Hell and one of them will go to Paradise, and it is the majority group (Jama’ah).’
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    When the Prophets were sent to banee Isra-eel -the majority of scholars who had high positions (not the actual majority of real scholars who prudently spoke quietly amongst their families and locals) opposed them, this didn't invalidate the haqq -but rather clarified the situation to the thinkers amonst the masses, king mu'aawiyah and king yazeed only held a majority because they had taken control of the major centers and forced the bayaah of the leadership through dictatorial means, emotional blackmail, and through invoking the fear of fitnah - their narrations should be taken with scepticism and extreme caution. Also king Mu'awiyah opposed the prophet until he was checkmated in makkah and faced losing his status and wealth, and Allah clarifies that king mu'awiyyah is not equal -but rather inferior to those who fought and spent before fath al makkah -therefore it is obvious that there were more rightful believers to the position of leadership.

    Regarding the question of apes, they may be a separate offshoot in the biological tree, and apparently quite far off in terms of intelligence and capability -since they survived the turf wars as insaan took khilaafah.

    I am attempting to reason with logic and i accept the oneness of Allah and the truth of His messengers via logical reasoning - otherwise my faith would be akin to that of bandwaggon hoppers who can be persuaded to reject any obvious truth simply by an appeal to accept flawed (even if well meaning) precedent. The way of the true believers and ul al albaab was always to look at, evaluate, and then accept the haqq even if it meant going against the flawed opinions of their family, tribe, group, ancestors, and cherished -long-established institutions - due to the fact that the primary factor in their calculations was al Haqq.

    Assuming that we already accept that "biological" and "non-biological" matter and beings from what the earth produces come in pairs (ch36).....

    ....The first verse from chapter 4 of the Quran (an-nisaa-) can be used as evidence for the claim that Adam came to exist on earth differently to how he initially came to exist in heaven (bearing in mind that "haa" feminine is used for animate female and also inanimate) :

    An-Nisa' 4:1

    يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ ٱتَّقُوا۟ رَبَّكُمُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَكُم مِّن نَّفْسٍ
    وَٰحِدَةٍ
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    وَبَثَّ مِنْهُمَا رِجَالًا كَثِيرًا وَنِسَآءًۚ وَٱتَّقُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ ٱلَّذِى تَسَآءَلُونَ بِهِۦ وَٱلْأَرْحَامَۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ عَلَيْكُمْ رَقِيبًا

    English - Yusuf Ali

    O mankind! reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single person, created, of like nature, His mate, and from them twain scattered (like seeds) countless men and women;- reverence Allah, through whom ye demand your mutual (rights), and (reverence) the wombs (That bore you): for Allah ever watches over you.

    English - Sahih International

    O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul and created from it its mate and dispersed from both of them many men and women. And fear Allah, through whom you ask one another, and the wombs. Indeed Allah is ever, over you, an Observer.

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    فتاة مسيحية تعتنق الاسلام و تبكي مع الداعيه شمسي مترجم
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    الداعيه شمسي يشرح لشاب مسيحي محمد في الانجيل مترحم new

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    Mountains

    The Quran draws our attention to a very important characteristic of mountains:

    “Did We not make the earth a resting place? And the mountains as stakes?” (Quran 78:6-7)

    The Quran indicates that mountains have deep roots by using the word stakes to describe them. In fact mountains do have deep roots, and the word stakes is an accurate description for them. A book titled ‘Earth’ by Geophysicist Frank Press explains that mountains are like stakes, and are buried deep under the surface of the earth. Mount Everest (pictured below), the height of which is approximately 9 km above ground, has a root deeper than 125 km.

    The fact that mountains have deep ‘stake’ like roots was not known, until after the development of the theory of plate tectonics in the beginning of the 20th century.

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    Sky’s Protection

    The sky plays a crucial role in protecting the earth. The sky protects the earth from the lethal rays of the sun. If the sky did not exist then the sun’s radiation would have killed off all life on earth. It also acts like a blanket wrapped around the earth, to protect it from the freezing cold of space. The temperature just above the sky is approximately -270oC. If this temperature was to reach earth then the planet would freeze over instantly. The sky also protects life on earth by warming the surface through heat retention (greenhouse effect), and reducing temperature extremes between day and night[5]. These are some of the many protective functions of the sky.

    The Quran asks us to consider the sky in the following verse:

    “We made the sky a protective ceiling. And yet they are turning away from Our signs!” (Quran 21:32)

    The Quran points to the sky’s protection as a sign of God. The protective properties of the sky were discovered by scientific research conducted in the 20th century.


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    Iron

    Iron is not natural to the earth. It did not form on the earth but came down to earth from outer space. This may sound strange but it’s true. Scientists have found that billions of years ago the earth was stuck by meteorites. These meteorites were carrying Iron from distant stars which had exploded[4].

    The Quran says the following on the origin of Iron:

    “We sent down Iron with its great inherent strength and its many benefits for humankind.” (Quran 57:25)

    God uses the words ‘sent down’ for Iron. It is clear from the verse that Iron is not an earthly material, but was sent down for the benefit of humanity. The fact that Iron came down to earth from outer space is something which could not be known by the primitive science of the 7th century.


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    Origin of Life

    Water is essential for all living things. We all know that water is vital to life but the Quran makes a very unusual claim:

    We made every living thing from water? Will they not believe? (Quran 21:30)

    In this verse water is pointed out as the origin of all life. All living things are made of cells. We now know that cells are mostly made up of water[3]. For example, 80% of the cytoplasm (basic cell material) of a standard animal cell is described as water in biology textbooks.

    The fact that living things consist mostly of water was discovered only after the invention of the microscope. In the deserts of Arabia, the last thing someone would have guessed is that all life came from water.
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    MaashAllah that's great brother! Keep up the good work of posting these miracles

    Islam has been spread by miracles and without it, it become just another religion
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    MaashAllah that's great brother! Keep up the good work of posting these miracles

    Islam has been spread by miracles and without it, it become just another religion

    How do you know when an event has been influenced by a god?
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    How do you know when an event has been influenced by a god?
    Do you mean how do we know it's a miracle?

    Miracles can only be done by God so that's how we know
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    Do you mean how do we know it's a miracle?

    Miracles can only be done by God so that's how we know

    What I mean is
    If two events occur ... how do you know when a god affected one, but not the other ?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    What I mean is
    If two events occur ... how do you know when a god affected one, but not the other ?
    Well we believe they'll both be God affected and that's to do with philosophy of wether anything can have an intrinsic power to do anything of its own accord

    And if one was miraculous, I.e. it suspended the laws of physics (such as Moses'(pbuh) stick turning to snake) then we know it was a miracle from God
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    Well we believe they'll both be God affected and that's to do with philosophy of wether anything can have an intrinsic power to do anything of its own accord

    And if one was miraculous, I.e. it suspended the laws of physics (such as Moses'(pbuh) stick turning to snake) then we know it was a miracle from God
    I understand that you believe.
    But how would you know .

    How do you know when a god is involved.

    I understand you believe Moses turned a stick into a snake ... but you can’t know that
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    I understand that you believe.
    But how would you know .

    How do you know when a god is involved.

    I understand you believe Moses turned a stick into a snake ... but you can’t know that
    We know it as God manifests the Truth of it in our hearts, I.e. we witness it in our hearts with absolute clarity and certainty

    E.g. if a person sees a ghost and is sure what he saw, he will know that he saw it but as other people didn't witness the same and have only his word for it, they may not 'know' but that doesn't change the fact that the witness knows
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    We know it as God manifests the Truth of it in our hearts, I.e. we witness it in our hearts with absolute clarity and certainty

    E.g. if a person sees a ghost and is sure what he saw, he will know that he saw it but as other people didn't witness the same and have only his word for it, they may not 'know' but that doesn't change the fact that the witness knows

    What you are talking about is personal testimony .
    How is you claiming you “ know “ when your god does something , differ from people of other faiths who claim to “ know” when their god interacts with the world .

    All religions make these sorts of claims.

    Would you agree that it’s possible for people to believe these kinds of religious claims ... even though they have no basis in reality
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    format_quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    What you are talking about is personal testimony .
    How is you claiming you “ know “ when your god does something , differ from people of other faiths who claim to “ know” when their god interacts with the world .

    All religions make these sorts of claims.

    Would you agree that it’s possible for people to believe these kinds of religious claims ... even though they have no basis in reality
    Infact if you look into it you'd see that the vast majority of people of other faiths do not claim to 'know' and they just guess their religion is true... I've put this to the test and hard-core evangelical Christians have admitted they cannot be absolutely certain of the Truth of their faith... the Quran says that non Muslims just follow conjecture

    Muslims are the only people who claim to know without a shred of doubt that's because they're the only people who have really witnessed the Truth...I.e. They have the light of faith in their hearts via which this truth becomes manifest
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    format_quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    What you are talking about is personal testimony .
    How is you claiming you “ know “ when your god does something , differ from people of other faiths who claim to “ know” when their god interacts with the world .

    All religions make these sorts of claims.

    Would you agree that it’s possible for people to believe these kinds of religious claims ... even though they have no basis in reality
    You are absolutely right to ask this question. God sent many prophets with miracles, nations of those prophets did see these miracles and some believed those were from God and many still did not. You have absolute right to ask this question that I have not seen these miracles so how can I believe that the stories in Bible or Quran are true? This is a great question and it shows you don't want to have a blind faith. God has created us with intellect and have given us all senses to rationalize things around us and come to faith with reasoning and logic.

    Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was given many miracles just like Prophets in the past. He split the moon in half for example but again did you and I witnessed it? No we did not. So what is the miracle which is living and we can all witness to believe. That miracle my friend is Quran. I already saw that some brother gave you some link to scientific facts in Quran. But the first thing we need to establish is Quran preserved or has it been altered just like Bible has been? We can go into in depth details of how Quran has been written and preserved or we can take a more simple and straight forward approach. There is no doubt that Quran has been preserved in writing but it is also been preserved from day 1 by memorization. There are hundreds and thousands of Muslims who have memorized Quran in every generation. With so many memorizers of Quran in every generation, it is impossible to make change of even a single letter to the Quran because the people who have memorized it can identify this change immediately. This proves Quran has been preserved perfectly and that is a miracle to preserve Quran in hearts of so many people in every generation. On top of that mother tongue of majority of these memorizers is not Arabic. Many memorizers finish memorizing Quran between the age of 5-10 years. These are the facts you can easily look up and experience if you go to any mosque. Now if we agree to burn all religious book today, I am sure no one can produce any religious book as is other than Quran. That is nothing but a miracle. This one thing you and I can experience in our age and time. Once we agree on this then we can look at the scientific facts as well.

    Knowing that Quran is preserved 1400+ years ago, it has many verses which did not make any sense to students of science up until last century. Such as Quran describes stages of human development in the mothers womb so precisely that Dr. Keith Moore ( you can look up Dr. Keith Moore videos on Quran and Embryology on YouTube) was astonished and he ended up accepting Islam after years of his research. Note these facts on embryology has been establish very recently by use of very powerful tools (Xrays etc.) which did not exist 1400 years ago. Quran also mentioned that universe is expanding and this is also a very recent established fact. Quran mentioned finger prints and again this is something only known to us in last 100 years or so. Quran mentioned Big bang, water cycle, pain receptors in human skin and list can go on and on.

    Please note I am not trying to prove Quran with science and Quran is not at all a scientific book. For Muslims anything is Quran is word of God even if it is not proven by today's science but for non-Muslims I need to provide reference to some facts which science recently established but are mentioned in Quran 1400 years ago. This is just to convince someone who has stronger believe in science. Not every non-Muslim, however, is expressed by scientific facts mentioned in Quran. I advise them to read Quran at their own. I am sure as long as you are honest, you will find answers to your question within the Quran.

    We are here to help explain if there is any question but at the end of the day Allah has given you free will to choose and there is never any compulsion in the matter of religion. Faith should come with conviction and from heart.
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