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    The following are some comments of scientists[1] on the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran.

    1) Dr. T. V. N. Persaud is Professor of Anatomy, Professor of Pediatrics and Child Health, and Professor of Obstetrics, Gynecology, and Reproductive Sciences at the University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. There, he was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy for 16 years. He is well-known in his field. He is the author or editor of 22 textbooks and has published over 181 scientific papers. In 1991, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. When he was asked about the scientific miracles in the Quran which he has researched, he stated the following:

    “The way it was explained to me is that Muhammad was a very ordinary man. He could not read, didn’t know [how] to write. In fact, he was an illiterate. And we’re talking about twelve [actually about fourteen] hundred years ago. You have someone illiterate making profound pronouncements and statements and that are amazingly accurate about scientific nature. And I personally can’t see how this could be a mere chance. There are too many accuracies and, like Dr. Moore, I have no difficulty in my mind that this is a divine inspiration or revelation which led him to these statements.”


    Professor Persaud has included some Quranic verses and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, in some of his books. He has also presented these verses and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad at several conferences.

    2) Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson is the Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Professor of Molecular and Human Genetics at the Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA. Formerly, he was Professor of Ob-Gyn and the Chairman of the Department of Ob-Gyn at the University of Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee, USA. He was also the President of the American Fertility Society. He has received many awards, including the Association of Professors of Obstetrics and Gynecology Public Recognition Award in 1992. Professor Simpson studied the following two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad:

    “In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days...”[2]

    “If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones....”[3]

    He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:

    “So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.”

    3) Dr. E. Marshall Johnson is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Developmental Biology at Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. There, for 22 years he was Professor of Anatomy, the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy, and the Director of the Daniel Baugh Institute. He was also the President of the Teratology Society. He has authored more than 200 publications. In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Johnson said in the presentation of his research paper:

    “Summary: The Quran describes not only the development of external form, but emphasizes also the internal stages, the stages inside the embryo, of its creation and development, emphasizing major events recognized by contemporary science.”

    Also he said: “As a scientist, I can only deal with things which I can specifically see. I can understand embryology and developmental biology. I can understand the words that are translated to me from the Quran. As I gave the example before, if I were to transpose myself into that era, knowing what I knew today and describing things, I could not describe the things which were described. I see no evidence for the fact to refute the concept that this individual, Muhammad, had to be developing this information from some place. So I see nothing here in conflict with the concept that divine intervention was involved in what he was able to write.


    4) Dr. William W. Hay is a well-known marine scientist. He is Professor of Geological Sciences at the University of Colorado, Boulder, Colorado, USA. He was formerly the Dean of the Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science at the University of Miami, Miami, Florida, USA. After a discussion with Professor Hay about the Quran’s mention of recently discovered facts on seas, he said:

    “I find it very interesting that this sort of information is in the ancient scriptures of the Holy Quran, and I have no way of knowing where they would come from, but I think it is extremely interesting that they are there and that this work is going on to discover it, the meaning of some of the passages.” And when he was asked about the source of the Quran, he replied: “Well, I would think it must be the divine being.”


    5) Dr. Gerald C. Goeringer is Course Director and Associate Professor of Medical Embryology at the Department of Cell Biology, School of Medicine, Georgetown University, Washington, DC, USA. During the Eighth Saudi Medical Conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Professor Goeringer stated the following in the presentation of his research paper:

    “In a relatively few aayahs (Quranic verses) is contained a rather comprehensive description of human development from the time of commingling of the gametes through organogenesis. No such distinct and complete record of human development, such as classification, terminology, and description, existed previously. In most, if not all, instances, this description antedates by many centuries the recording of the various stages of human embryonic and fetal development recorded in the traditional scientific literature.”


    6) Dr. Yoshihide Kozai is Professor Emeritus at Tokyo University, Hongo, Tokyo, Japan, and was the Director of the National Astronomical Observatory, Mitaka, Tokyo, Japan. He said:

    “I am very much impressed by finding true astronomical facts in [the] Quran, and for us the modern astronomers have been studying very small pieces of the universe. We’ve concentrated our efforts for understanding of [a] very small part. Because by using telescopes, we can see only very few parts [of] the sky without thinking [about the] whole universe. So, by reading [the] Quran and by answering to the questions, I think I can find my future way for investigation of the universe.”


    7) Professor Tejatat Tejasen is the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy at Chiang Mai University, Chiang Mai, Thailand. Previously, he was the Dean of the Faculty of Medicine at the same university. During the Eighth Saudi Medical Conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Professor Tejasen stood up and said:

    “During the last three years, I became interested in the Quran . . . . From my study and what I have learned from this conference, I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Quran fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means. Since the Prophet Muhammad could neither read nor write, Muhammad must be a messenger who relayed this truth, which was revealed to him as an enlightenment by the one who is eligible [as the] creator.

    This creator must be God. Therefore, I think this is the time to say La ilaha illa Allah, there is no god to worship except Allah (God), Muhammadur rasoolu Allah, Muhammad is Messenger (Prophet) of Allah (God). Lastly, I must congratulate for the excellent and highly successful arrangement for this conference . . . . I have gained not only from the scientific point of view and religious point of view but also the great chance of meeting many well-known scientists and making many new friends among the participants. The most precious thing of all that I have gained by coming to this place is La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadur rasoolu Allah, and to have become a Muslim.”



    After all these examples we have seen about the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran and all these scientists’ comments on this, let us ask ourselves these questions:

    • Could it be a coincidence that all this recently discovered scientific information from different fields was mentioned in the Quran, which was revealed fourteen centuries ago?

    • Could this Quran have been authored by Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, or by any other human being?

    The only possible answer is that this Quran must be the literal word of God, revealed by Him.
    القرآن الكريم والعلم الحديث كاملة The Quran and Modern Science full Zakir naik youtube
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    Infact if you look into it you'd see that the vast majority of people of other faiths do not claim to 'know' and they just guess their religion is true... I've put this to the test and hard-core evangelical Christians have admitted they cannot be absolutely certain of the Truth of their faith... the Quran says that non Muslims just follow conjecture

    Muslims are the only people who claim to know without a shred of doubt that's because they're the only people who have really witnessed the Truth...I.e. They have the light of faith in their hearts via which this truth becomes manifest

    Well to be fair we cannot know anything 100%

    And there are many people of other faiths that claim to know that their gods are real , not just the popular faiths now , but throughout history.

    People don’t guess that their religion is true ... they believe it is true , for a variety of reasons,
    You believe your religion is true , just like Hindus believe there’s is true , just like the Jews and Christians believe that theirs is true , as the ancient Greeks , Romans , Egyptians , Mayan’s , Incas .... they all believed that their gods were real .

    They were all wrong ... given the fact humans have been inventing gods and creating religions .... don’t you think it’s possible that your god and religion is equally an invention

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    Well to be fair we cannot know anything 100%

    And there are many people of other faiths that claim to know that their gods are real , not just the popular faiths now , but throughout history.

    People don’t guess that their religion is true ... they believe it is true , for a variety of reasons,
    You believe your religion is true , just like Hindus believe there’s is true , just like the Jews and Christians believe that theirs is true , as the ancient Greeks , Romans , Egyptians , Mayan’s , Incas .... they all believed that their gods were real .

    They were all wrong ... given the fact humans have been inventing gods and creating religions .... don’t you think it’s possible that your god and religion is equally an invention
    As I've said, I've put it to the test so why don't you? Ask people of other religions whether they believe 100% without doubt and see what they say.

    Your assumption about Muslims' beliefs really comes down to that example I have given earlier, you may think we just believe and not know, but that doesn't change the fact that we do know

    Also a casual look into other religions reveals the inconsistencies, the contradictions, the obvious mythologies that they are, unlike Islam which is the only religion without contradictions and which doesn't contradict logic and science either

    It's not possible that our faith is mistaken as we have too much overwhelming evidence of its truth and on top of all that there is the inner-vision of witnessing that truth that I've told you about, so we know it's true just like anyone knows 2+2=4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    As I've said, I've put it to the test so why don't you? Ask people of other religions whether they believe 100% without doubt and see what they say.

    Your assumption about Muslims' beliefs really comes down to that example I have given earlier, you may think we just believe and not know, but that doesn't change the fact that we do know

    Also a casual look into other religions reveals the inconsistencies, the contradictions, the obvious mythologies that they are, unlike Islam which is the only religion without contradictions and which doesn't contradict logic and science either

    It's not possible that our faith is mistaken as we have too much overwhelming evidence of its truth and on top of all that there is the inner-vision of witnessing that truth that I've told you about, so we know it's true just like anyone knows 2+2=4
    If you have evidence then you should not need any faith .

    I say you cannot know that your god exists ... it’s just a belief.

    To demonstrate this

    Could you prove to me that you are not a character in a computer program , programmed to have these beliefs
    ( silly I know , but it’s true not to demonstrate a point )

    Could you prove that this is not the case?

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    If you have evidence then you should not need any faith .

    I say you cannot know that your god exists ... it’s just a belief.

    To demonstrate this

    Could you prove to me that you are not a character in a computer program , programmed to have these beliefs
    ( silly I know , but it’s true not to demonstrate a point )

    Could you prove that this is not the case?
    Ah, but here is where we have a different definition to 'faith' then other religions. So as you can see in other religions their very definition of faith means to believe in something there is no proof for, indicating the guessing nature of their beliefs

    But our definition is to believe in something based on evidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    Ah, but here is where we have a different definition to 'faith' then other religions. So as you can see in other religions their very definition of faith means to believe in something there is no proof for, indicating the guessing nature of their beliefs

    But our definition is to believe in something based on evidence
    That’s not true , there are Christians that believe their faith is based on evidence.

    Can faith lead you to faulty conclusions ?
    Judging by the amount of religions in the world it would seem the answer is yes ... faith is not a reliable path to truth .

    What about the second point ... can you prove that you are not part of a computer programme

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    Could you prove to me that you are not a character in a computer program , programmed to have these beliefs
    ( silly I know , but it’s true not to demonstrate a point )
    The creation of the universe is history, either at least one God created the universe, or there is no creator god. We can't change history by having a wrong belief, so where is the truth?

    In the spirit of searching for a greatest meaning of 'One God'
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    Greetings and peace be with you chalks75


    The creation of the universe is history, either at least one God created the universe, or there is no creator god. We can't change history by having a wrong belief, so where is the truth?

    In the spirit of searching for a greatest meaning of 'One God'
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    Truth is thing things that can be supported by evidence.

    If you cannot show that’s it’s true , you should not claim that’s it’s true .

    Can you demonstrate the truth of the statement

    Some god exists
    Some god created the universe

    If you could demonstrate the truth of both or either of those statements ... it would be the greatest discovery of mankind.

    I note , you still have not told me how you could prove that you are not just a computer programme developed last week , and programmed to have those beliefs.

    If you cannot even prove that’s not true , how could you possibly hope to prove ... that’s not true + there is a god that created the universe

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    Truth is thing things that can be supported by evidence.

    If you cannot show that’s it’s true , you should not claim that’s it’s true .

    Can you demonstrate the truth of the statement

    Some god exists
    Some god created the universe

    If you could demonstrate the truth of both or either of those statements ... it would be the greatest discovery of mankind.

    I note , you still have not told me how you could prove that you are not just a computer programme developed last week , and programmed to have those beliefs.

    If you cannot even prove that’s not true , how could you possibly hope to prove ... that’s not true + there is a god that created the universe
    sorry but truth has nothing to do with evidence. in court they always try to find evidence (alibi) to hide the truth (their crime).
    then there is prove. one evidence is not always enough to prove something. a lot of people are in jail because they are falsely proven guilty....but the truth is different.
    and besides...what do you accept as evidence?
    an illiterate man in the desert who can dictate an entire book accurately with a lot of statements in which untill today seems to be true...or at least none of these statements can be proven false...is that evidence enough or not?
    the existence of all life...suns...stars...the whole universe....which is highly impossible to be developped out of coincidence...statistically impossible...is that evidence enough to prove God or not? you would say no...but İ would say yes.
    that is what its about...denying evidence....denying the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    sorry but truth has nothing to do with evidence. in court they always try to find evidence (alibi) to hide the truth (their crime).
    then there is prove. one evidence is not always enough to prove something. a lot of people are in jail because they are falsely proven guilty....but the truth is different.
    and besides...what do you accept as evidence?
    an illiterate man in the desert who can dictate an entire book accurately with a lot of statements in which untill today seems to be true...or at least none of these statements can be proven false...is that evidence enough or not?
    the existence of all life...suns...stars...the whole universe....which is highly impossible to be developped out of coincidence...statistically impossible...is that evidence enough to prove God or not? you would say no...but İ would say yes.
    that is what its about...denying evidence....denying the truth.
    Truth has nothing to do with evidence , that is absurd ( I’m hoping English is not your first language so you don’t fully understand what you have written)

    In court ,
    Evidence is presented in an attempt to establish the truth.
    One side presents evidence in an attempt to convince the jury that the claim is true ( the claim being the defendant is guilty )
    The other side presents evidence to persuade the jury that the claim is not true .
    ( defendant is not guilty )
    * please note this does not mean the defendant is innocent.

    So to your claim that Muhammad was illiterate ... what evidence can you present that would convince me that , that claim is true .. apart from the claim itself
    ( a claim cannot be evidence of Itself)

    Are there no scientific inaccuracies in the Quran ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    Truth has nothing to do with evidence , that is absurd
    The universe came into being somehow, there has to be an explanation that is the 'truth'. The truth is the truth whether you have evidence or not; you cannot change history.

    If you have faulty or incomplete evidence, then you cannot find truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    In court ,
    Evidence is presented in an attempt to establish the truth.
    One side presents evidence in an attempt to convince the jury that the claim is true ( the claim being the defendant is guilty )
    The other side presents evidence to persuade the jury that the claim is not true .
    ( defendant is not guilty )
    * please note this does not mean the defendant is innocent.
    You have just describes how 'truth' suffers when clever people argue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you chalks75



    The universe came into being somehow, there has to be an explanation that is the 'truth'. The truth is the truth whether you have evidence or not; you cannot change history.

    If you have faulty or incomplete evidence, then you cannot find truth.



    You have just describes how 'truth' suffers when clever people argue.

    In the spirit of searching for a greatest meaning of 'One God'
    Eric

    “ the universe came into being somehow “
    You don’t know that , the universe could be eternal.

    But you are correct , something is either true or not true .
    How do we determine what is true ... we look at the evidence .

    Sometimes the truth is uncovered because clever people argue.

    The problem with using “ a god” as an explanation , you define what a god is.
    A god is , what you define a god to be.

    Don’t you see the problem here.

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    Greetings and peace be with you chalks75;

    Quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    The problem with using “ a god” as an explanation , you define what a god is.
    A god is , what you define a god to be.
    God created the heavens and the Earth, he always was, always is and always will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    “ the universe came into being somehow “
    You don’t know that , the universe could be eternal.

    But you are correct , something is either true or not true .
    How do we determine what is true ... we look at the evidence .

    Sometimes the truth is uncovered because clever people argue.

    The problem with using “ a god” as an explanation , you define what a god is.
    A god is , what you define a god to be.

    Don’t you see the problem here.
    the best "evidence" you have for the universe is the big bang theory...which explains that the universe had a beginning so it was not eternal...but again a perfect example how evidence relate to the truth.

    about the illiterate prophet sas...almost all scholars muslim or nonmuslim agree on that point. just investigate a little and you will find out...but whether you accept that as evidence...that is another point...again....difference between evidence...proof...and truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    the best "evidence" you have for the universe is the big bang theory...which explains that the universe had a beginning so it was not eternal...but again a perfect example how evidence relate to the truth.

    about the illiterate prophet sas...almost all scholars muslim or nonmuslim agree on that point. just investigate a little and you will find out...but whether you accept that as evidence...that is another point...again....difference between evidence...proof...and truth.

    The Big Bang theory does not describe the “ beginning” of the universe , it describes the expansion of the universe.
    What you said is a common misconception, hawking said “ we may as well consider the Big Bang theory as the beginning, since it’s from that point we can make our measurements “

    As for your other point , Muhammad being illiterate.... how many people believe something is true has no bearing on wether it is true.

    What evidence “ other than a claim in a book “ is there ?

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    Greetings and peace be with you chalks 75;

    Quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    hawking said “ we may as well consider the Big Bang theory as the beginning, since it’s from that point we can make our measurements “
    That seems pure laziness, it avoids asking where all the matter of the universe came from. Lets use logic and reason and ask that question.

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    Greetings and peace be with you chalks 75;



    That seems pure laziness, it avoids asking where all the matter of the universe came from. Lets use logic and reason and ask that question.

    Peace
    Eric
    I don’t know where all the matter and energy in the universe came from, perhaps it has always existed , perhaps it came into being from a naturalistic event , maybe a god did it, maybe we are in the matrix .

    I do not know , I do not claim to know.

    What I do know , is the cultures all around the world , for 10,000 years at least have been inventing “ gods” as an explanation.

    I have not seen a single shred of evidence that has swayed me to believe any god is real

    I believe
    There are no real gods
    There are only people that believe gods are real.

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    Are there no scientific inaccuracies in the Quran ?
    No inaccuracies of ESTABLISHED scientific facts. Scientific theories are theories, and theories are not facts.

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    There are no real gods
    There are only people that believe gods are real.
    Can You Prove That God Does Not Exist?
    When asked this question atheists argue that it’s not up to them to provide evidence for proof of God. The problem however with their argument is that if they claim God doesn’t exist then they should provide the evidence.
    If atheists have never visited every planet; or if they have never been to every part of the universe; or if they have never seen every star in outer space – then how can they prove that God does not exist?
    Atheism in itself is merely a CLAIM – it is NOT a fact.
    Atheism is NOT merely a lack of belief – it is an NONFACTUAL CLAIM that God does not exist because there is no proof that He doesn’t exist.

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    Should I also ask another question?

    If you were to believe a God what attributes you would think God should have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    That’s not true , there are Christians that believe their faith is based on evidence.

    Can faith lead you to faulty conclusions ?
    Judging by the amount of religions in the world it would seem the answer is yes ... faith is not a reliable path to truth .

    What about the second point ... can you prove that you are not part of a computer programme
    Ofcourse we can prove that we are not part of a computer programme as that's only some silly film called the matrix, only a nutter will think it's real life

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    Quote Originally Posted by HabibUrrehman View Post
    No inaccuracies of ESTABLISHED scientific facts. Scientific theories are theories, and theories are not facts.

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    Can You Prove That God Does Not Exist?
    When asked this question atheists argue that it’s not up to them to provide evidence for proof of God. The problem however with their argument is that if they claim God doesn’t exist then they should provide the evidence.
    If atheists have never visited every planet; or if they have never been to every part of the universe; or if they have never seen every star in outer space – then how can they prove that God does not exist?
    Atheism in itself is merely a CLAIM – it is NOT a fact.
    Atheism is NOT merely a lack of belief – it is an NONFACTUAL CLAIM that God does not exist because there is no proof that He doesn’t exist.

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    Should I also ask another question?

    If you were to believe a God what attributes you would think God should have?
    You don’t understand what a scientific theory is .
    Theories explain facts.

    If an atheist makes a claim that god does not exist ... then they have the burden of proof.
    As it happens , I am not making that claim, I am rejecting your claim that a god exists.

    If s god existed , he would guarantee that every person that has ever lived on this planet always had food to eat and water to drink.
    They don’t , therefore god as I define it does not exist .

    You can always define a god into existence
    People have been doing that for 10,000 years at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    Ofcourse we can prove that we are not part of a computer programme as that's only some silly film called the matrix, only a nutter will think it's real life
    Ok prove it ,
    You will have solved a problem philosophy have been wrestling with for centuries.

    How would you prove we are not part of a computer programme ?


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