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    Question about Ghayb

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    Hello,
    I have a quick question please, I am confused

    so in the quran it is mentioned that “Allah does not reveal his ghayb to anyone ”

    so that means that if I make a prayer such as: God should show me if something is not going to happen to me he should show me by giving lets say soccer team A victory over team B right

    that means that the prayer is invalid right? And not accepted because of that verse? Or does it mean that it is accepted and I only made that prayer because what I’m thinking will happen to me? Or because that is kind of asking to see the future (unseen) it is the prayer is not accepted?

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    Re: Question about Ghayb

    Indeed, you are confused bro.
    It doesn't work like this, you'll only get yourself crazy.
    Like those guys addicted to gambling, inventing schemes how to win in casino.
    Besides, gambling is haram, perhaps for this reason.

    Only make duas directly about things important for you.
    To know what will or not happen, you can only use your brain for estimation.

    You may play with coin flipping and read some of probability theory to get accustomed with randomness and to get rid of illusions.

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    Also consider brownian motion in fluid:

    Molecules are chaotically flying in all directions but the fluid flows where it supposed to flow.
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    Re: Question about Ghayb

    Brother excuse me if I sound rude but this line of thinking is, to be frank, mad.

    From your previous posts I gather that you suffer from a confusion problem and these sort of unconventional pointless and more confusing thinking will only exacerbate your problem

    Watching football is time wasting and prohibited too as the players don't fully cover their awrah (nakedness) by wearing shorts and we shouldn't be looking at them so you shouldn't even be watching them games

    Try to busy yourself with normal stuff and try not to think 'out of the box'

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    Re: Question about Ghayb

    Quote Originally Posted by BobBrown View Post
    so that means that if I make a prayer such as: God should show me if something is not going to happen to me he should show me by giving lets say soccer team A victory over team B right
    The matter in question is not related to "ghayb" at first place, rather it is related to لَيْسَ لِلْإِنْسانِ إِلاَّ ما سَعي "And that man shall have nothing but what he strives for" [ An-Najm=39]
    Secondly, you should not claim or make dua asking Allah SWT to "show" you the results of such things which are not directly related to yourself. You can make dua for things related to you, requesting Allah to guide you in something whether it is good or bad for you. It is just Sunnah requesting Allah SWT to guide you in something, also called "Istikhara".
    Stay blessed.

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    Re: Question about Ghayb

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    Brother excuse me if I sound rude but this line of thinking is, to be frank, mad.

    From your previous posts I gather that you suffer from a confusion problem and these sort of unconventional pointless and more confusing thinking will only exacerbate your problem

    Watching football is time wasting and prohibited too as the players don't fully cover their awrah (nakedness) by wearing shorts and we shouldn't be looking at them so you shouldn't even be watching them games

    Try to busy yourself with normal stuff and try not to think 'out of the box'

    Okay thank you, for some stupid reason I was thinking that because the thought to make that dua came to my head to make dua about it then that means it is not unseen knowledge but thank you...do you think it is shaytan making me to make these kind of duas and it’s waswasa because I know that my prayer doesn’t even have the power to affect an outcome of a game which the results have already been written by Allah.

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    Re: Question about Ghayb

    Quote Originally Posted by Saira Khan View Post
    The matter in question is not related to "ghayb" at first place, rather it is related to لَيْسَ لِلْإِنْسانِ إِلاَّ ما سَعي "And that man shall have nothing but what he strives for" [ An-Najm=39]
    Secondly, you should not claim or make dua asking Allah SWT to "show" you the results of such things which are not directly related to yourself. You can make dua for things related to you, requesting Allah to guide you in something whether it is good or bad for you. It is just Sunnah requesting Allah SWT to guide you in something, also called "Istikhara".
    Stay blessed.
    okay thank you, what confused me was because I the verse said unseen knowledge I was thinking because the thought to make such dua came to my head then the knowledge is not unseen anymore...but I have realized that a dua like that is haram because it is kind of like predicting the future

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    Re: Question about Ghayb

    Quote Originally Posted by BobBrown View Post
    Okay thank you, for some stupid reason I was thinking that because the thought to make that dua came to my head to make dua about it then that means it is not unseen knowledge but thank you...do you think it is shaytan making me to make these kind of duas and it’s waswasa because I know that my prayer doesn’t even have the power to affect an outcome of a game which the results have already been written by Allah.
    Yes it is shaytan that makes you say them dua's because they are time wasting and also it causes you confusion and it's not for a good cause

    Are you trying to make money from betting?

    If that's your purpose then surely you know gambling is haram? So if you try and manipulate Islam for something haram and trying to get Allah's help in you making haram money then Allah's wrath will decend on you. Maybe this is why this confusion illness comes along with this type of dua so rather then any help... it is backfiring on you and harming your sanity


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