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    I read some hadees are d'aef. In our language it means weak. So what does it mean when a hadees is weak.
    I read a hadees by ibn e maja and he is considered one of the most prominent scholars, but the hadees he quoted is considered d'aif.
    Can anyone explain?
    حَدَّثَنَا سُوَيْدُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَاصِمٍ الْعَبَّادَانِيُّ، عَنْ فَائِدِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ أَبِي أَوْفَى الأَسْلَمِيِّ، قَالَ خَرَجَ عَلَيْنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالَ ‏ "‏ مَنْ كَانَتْ لَهُ حَاجَةٌ إِلَى اللَّهِ أَوْ إِلَى أَحَدٍ مِنْ خَلْقِهِ فَلْيَتَوَضَّأْ وَلْيُصَلِّ رَكْعَتَيْنِ ثُمَّ لْيَقُلْ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ الْحَلِيمُ الْكَرِيمُ سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَرْشِ الْعَظِيمِ الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَسْأَلُكَ مُوجِبَاتِ رَحْمَتِكَ وَعَزَائِمَ مَغْفِرَتِكَ وَالْغَنِيمَةَ مِنْ كُلِّ بِرٍّ وَالسَّلاَمَةَ مِنْ كُلِّ إِثْمٍ أَسْأَلُكَ أَلاَّ تَدَعَ لِي ذَنْبًا إِلاَّ غَفَرْتَهُ وَلاَ هَمًّا إِلاَّ فَرَّجْتَهُ وَلاَ حَاجَةً هِيَ لَكَ رِضًا إِلاَّ قَضَيْتَهَا لِي ثُمَّ يَسْأَلُ اللَّهَ مِنْ أَمْرِ الدُّنْيَا وَالآخِرَةِ مَا شَاءَ فَإِنَّهُ يُقَدَّرُ ‏"‏ ‏.
    This was the hadeeth.

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    Re: Dáif Hadeth

    Quote Originally Posted by wayfarer91 View Post
    I read some hadees are d'aef. In our language it means weak. So what does it mean when a hadees is weak.
    I read a hadees by ibn e maja and he is considered one of the most prominent scholars, but the hadees he quoted is considered d'aif.
    Can anyone explain?
    حَدَّثَنَا سُوَيْدُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَاصِمٍ الْعَبَّادَانِيُّ، عَنْ فَائِدِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ أَبِي أَوْفَى الأَسْلَمِيِّ، قَالَ خَرَجَ عَلَيْنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالَ ‏ "‏ مَنْ كَانَتْ لَهُ حَاجَةٌ إِلَى اللَّهِ أَوْ إِلَى أَحَدٍ مِنْ خَلْقِهِ فَلْيَتَوَضَّأْ وَلْيُصَلِّ رَكْعَتَيْنِ ثُمَّ لْيَقُلْ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ الْحَلِيمُ الْكَرِيمُ سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَرْشِ الْعَظِيمِ الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَسْأَلُكَ مُوجِبَاتِ رَحْمَتِكَ وَعَزَائِمَ مَغْفِرَتِكَ وَالْغَنِيمَةَ مِنْ كُلِّ بِرٍّ وَالسَّلاَمَةَ مِنْ كُلِّ إِثْمٍ أَسْأَلُكَ أَلاَّ تَدَعَ لِي ذَنْبًا إِلاَّ غَفَرْتَهُ وَلاَ هَمًّا إِلاَّ فَرَّجْتَهُ وَلاَ حَاجَةً هِيَ لَكَ رِضًا إِلاَّ قَضَيْتَهَا لِي ثُمَّ يَسْأَلُ اللَّهَ مِنْ أَمْرِ الدُّنْيَا وَالآخِرَةِ مَا شَاءَ فَإِنَّهُ يُقَدَّرُ ‏"‏ ‏.
    This was the hadeeth.
    Full hadith can be found here: https://sunnah.com/urn/1314480

    To see why this hadith is classified as "weak" let's look at the chain narrators for this hadith:

    Suwaid bin Sa'iid

    Abu 'Aasim

    al-'abbaadaanii

    faa'id bin Abd al-Rahmaan

    Abd Allaah bin 'abii 'awfaa al-'aslamii

    Following is the jarh of the scholars of hadith about faa'id bin Abd al-Rahmaan



    • Yahyaa bin ma'iin: الدوري said regarding him: Weak. He is not reliable. He is nothing



    • Imaam al-Bukhaari said: He is munkarul hadith



    • Abu Haatim al-Raazi said: One is not to concern oneself with him



    • Ahmad bin Hanbal: Abd Allaah said regarding him: He is abandoned when it comes to hadiith



    • Imaam al-Naasaa'i said: He is nothing



    • Imaam al-Daaraqutni declared him weak



    • Abu Daawud said: He is nothing



    • Imaam al-Tirmidhi said: He is weak in regards to hadith




    References:

    تاريخ ابن معين رواية الدوري
    Volume 4 Page 309
    Volume 3 Page 163 and Page 479

    تهذيب الكمال
    Volume 23 Page 137

    التاريخ الكبير
    Volume 7 Page 132

    العلل ومعرفة الرجال عن أحمد برواية عبد الله
    Volume 3 Page 56

    الضعفاء والمتروكين النسائي
    Page 236

    الضعفاء للبخاري
    Page 114

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    Re: Dáif Hadeth

    So we shouldn't follow the daif hadeeth.. And i dont know what jarh means

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    Re: Dáif Hadeth

    Quote Originally Posted by wayfarer91 View Post
    I read some hadees are d'aef. In our language it means weak. So what does it mean when a hadees is weak.
    I read a hadees by ibn e maja and he is considered one of the most prominent scholars, but the hadees he quoted is considered d'aif.
    Can anyone explain?
    حَدَّثَنَا سُوَيْدُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَاصِمٍ الْعَبَّادَانِيُّ، عَنْ فَائِدِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ أَبِي أَوْفَى الأَسْلَمِيِّ، قَالَ خَرَجَ عَلَيْنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالَ ‏ "‏ مَنْ كَانَتْ لَهُ حَاجَةٌ إِلَى اللَّهِ أَوْ إِلَى أَحَدٍ مِنْ خَلْقِهِ فَلْيَتَوَضَّأْ وَلْيُصَلِّ رَكْعَتَيْنِ ثُمَّ لْيَقُلْ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ الْحَلِيمُ الْكَرِيمُ سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَرْشِ الْعَظِيمِ الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَسْأَلُكَ مُوجِبَاتِ رَحْمَتِكَ وَعَزَائِمَ مَغْفِرَتِكَ وَالْغَنِيمَةَ مِنْ كُلِّ بِرٍّ وَالسَّلاَمَةَ مِنْ كُلِّ إِثْمٍ أَسْأَلُكَ أَلاَّ تَدَعَ لِي ذَنْبًا إِلاَّ غَفَرْتَهُ وَلاَ هَمًّا إِلاَّ فَرَّجْتَهُ وَلاَ حَاجَةً هِيَ لَكَ رِضًا إِلاَّ قَضَيْتَهَا لِي ثُمَّ يَسْأَلُ اللَّهَ مِنْ أَمْرِ الدُّنْيَا وَالآخِرَةِ مَا شَاءَ فَإِنَّهُ يُقَدَّرُ ‏"‏ ‏.
    This was the hadeeth.
    Asalaamualaykum:

    This answer is a generalized answer (I am taking post number 3 which was a question from you also)

    You must remember the grading of a hadith in itself is an opinion. There are many instances whereby Scholar A will regard a hadith Sahih, but Scholar B can regard the very same is Daeef or vice versa.

    There are plenty of examples in our history of Islam whereby scholars have a different view on the grading/strength of a hadith.
    Dáif Hadeth

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    Re: Dáif Hadeth

    So there is no harm in reciting this dua, bcuz a few other didn't consider it strong enough


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