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    The question is not about whether it is good for us or bad.. But I've read in multiple places thst one never gets what we truly desire. I had a friend who was prepping for some exam and told their teacher that this is their utmost desire and the teacher respond that "one nevr gets what they desire really bad" and the friend failed in the exam. And things haven't worked out for them since then.

    So what's the use in making dua? When everything does point in the opposite direction? Are wishes only meant to remain wishes? Are duas only meant for praising Allah and establishing a link with Him, while realising He will not grsnt it only bcuz u wsnt it
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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    Greetings and peace be with you wayfarer91;

    format_quote Originally Posted by wayfarer91 View Post
    and the friend failed in the exam. And things haven't worked out for them since then
    I believe that Allah answers duas in a way that help us towards eternal salvation. Had your friend passed the exams, would that have brought them closer to Allah?

    Not everyone can pass exams first time, they are meant to be hard. If you fail once, that does not stop you making dua and trying again. Failure only becomes failure when you quit.

    I like this prayer.....

    I asked for Strength.
    And Allah gave me Difficulties to make me strong.
    I asked for Wisdom.
    And Allah gave me Problems to solve.
    I asked for Prosperity.
    And Allah gave me Brain and Brawn to work.
    I asked for Courage.
    And Allah gave me Danger to overcome.
    I asked for Love.
    And Allah gave me Troubled people to help.
    I asked for Favours.
    And Allah gave me Opportunities.

    I received nothing I wanted
    I received everything I needed
    My Prayer has been answered.
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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    Eric my brother, when will you take your shahadah?
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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    That's the thing.. It took her away from religion. And i dont think they were allowed to take the exam more thn once. Or perhaps thy did. Not sure.

    This is m question exactly
    Allah does not grant us what we want.. The argument remains the same.. Everyone keeps saying that it is granted in one of three ways.. Etc. Etc..

    And about ur last dua, it implies one should not be asking for specific things. Ur duas are general. So one should not specify Allah? If one's car breaks down, should they not pray to Allah to help in getting it fixed? If one loses a loved one. Should theh not ask Allah to mend things between them? Should one only make general duas. Nothing for this world? Bcuz shias hold the view that it is not permissible to ask for worldly things.


    . This scares me and keeps me from making dua.that if i do, what if Allah doesn't grwnt it and i am left despondent...
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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    Sister I made two duas in front of the Ka'ba...for Allah to let me do good in my graduate exam and for me to get married to beautiful pious wife. The first part Allah granted to me...the second part has not yet been fulfilled. The second part I realize Allah must be preparing it for me...the journey has been rough but I hope at the end of the day. There is wisdom behind the delay. It really depends on whether or not it was good for you or not
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    Brother i wrote initially.. It's not about good or bad
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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    Well rhink about it sister...do you really want something that is not good for you?
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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    Salamualaikum,

    I'm not sure how much of this I believe " that Allah never gives us what we desire ". In fact I find it very difficult to believe, can this be backed up through any reference in Quran or Hadith as direct quote please ?

    Allah may give us some of what we desire, all that we desire or nothing that we desire. We have no knowledge of what will come to be a reality, isn't that the point of an unknown future ? We make duaa because Allah overpowers anything in this entire universe and existence, we make duaa because Allah hears our duaas, we make duaa because during our time of need there is no one that can help us more than the creator of this world.

    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah says: 'I am just as My slave thinks I am, (i.e. I am able to do for him what he thinks I can do for him) and I am with him if He remembers Me. If he remembers Me in himself, I too, remember him in Myself; and if he remembers Me in a group of people, I remember him in a group that is better than they; and if he comes one span nearer to Me, I go one cubit nearer to him; and if he comes one cubit nearer to Me, I go a distance of two outstretched arms nearer to him; and if he comes to Me walking, I go to him running.' "

    Isn't believing that we never get what we desire, the equivalent of doubting our God. Isn't that almost insinuating no compassion. We don't all get what we desire naturally, because of course if we all got every single thing we desire we would be living in Paradise.... or an alternative Hell on Earth perhaps, not everyone is meant to have everything. Imagine everyone having immense and endless wealth ....we all want that, but 1) we can't all handle it. Sometimes having so much money can change us for the worst, more temptation, more sin, further from relating to people who are not fortunate and power that not everyone uses in the right way. Do I still want to live in a palace and be fed grapes on a throne ?Yes lol. I know you said to not refer to whether it is good or bad for us, but it is relevant. But at the very minimal, an example of that not being a factor, very simply if we all got what we desired, we would all have acres of land, private islands to ourselves, and mansions the size of My Cribs. What would be the point ... The world just does not work like that. As Muslims we understand this is a temporary life, not always an easy one, but that real desire will come in Paradise where we will there have all that we want and all that we can't imagine. However coming back to the present, there are different forms of desire. You can have a family member who is ill, doctors say they won't make it, you and loved ones make duaa and against medical "predictions" your family make it through and recover ( it happens ! ) blessings from God. We can't know which things we will be granted and which we will not. I think the mindset of assuming we will never be granted anything we want is negative. Rather we should still always turn to Allah and hope, pray, wish for whatever it is we desire, and have faith in him. For the things we are granted we should be grateful and thankful, and for the things we are not, we should also be thankful because there is a reason behind it, we may come to later know that reason or we may never really know. But Allah knows best.

    It is also worth noting, that life is not exactly Aladdin with a Genie, make duaa and poof our desires pop up there and then. I really like Eric's input, that was the perfect example of the ways in which we are given the tools to acquire and achieve what we want. You may pray to pass your exam, and Allah grants you the strength, will power, focus to not be swayed by distractions. You may pray to set up your own business, and Allah grants you with the initiative to come into contact with all the relevant information and knowledge you need, you may meet someone who is in the line of work you want to get into, and who can give you some insight to invaluable advice that really helps you kickstart things or offers first hand experience on what not to do. Student of deed mentioned marriage. You may pray for marriage and whilst it has not been granted yet, Allah has saved you for some very bad options, options that you could not foresee would have ended you in a worse place, therefore yes you are waiting but when it happens it is the right person, therefore still the desire has been met eventually. We still have to work at everything in life and not always getting what we want is part of that, in dealing with the hope that there is something better or a reason why we didn't get that "thing".

    But to say we never get what we desire, seems incorrect to me. Please refer to any evidence if otherwise.
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    I dont think its transgression
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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    Well explained.. Should u still make dua if every single thing points in the opp direction.. Every one keeps telling that its impossible.. Phr..
    And then about my friend's exam. Her life would have had far better life.
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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    format_quote Originally Posted by wayfarer91 View Post
    The question is not about whether it is good for us or bad.. But I've read in multiple places thst one never gets what we truly desire. I had a friend who was prepping for some exam and told their teacher that this is their utmost desire and the teacher respond that "one nevr gets what they desire really bad" and the friend failed in the exam. And things haven't worked out for them since then.

    So what's the use in making dua? When everything does point in the opposite direction? Are wishes only meant to remain wishes? Are duas only meant for praising Allah and establishing a link with Him, while realising He will not grsnt it only bcuz u wsnt it
    Greetings,

    I'm going to divide your questions into one by one so it will be easy for me to answer.

    1. So what's the use of making dua?

    The main use is so you can feel closer to your Creator of the Heavens and the Earth. Because, God Almighty Said in His Glorious Speech: "Call upon Me and I will respond" and also making Dua it is good thing because it shows that you are in need and not the Creator and shows that you have reliance, trust and dependency on your Creator.

    2. Are wishes meant to remain only wishes?

    Yes. But they can also be fullfilled by supplicating to God Almighty just as He ordered us to do in The Glorious Quran

    3. Are duas only meant for praising Allah and establishing a link with Him?

    No, but there is adhkar where you can do praise and use Dhikr in order to establish a link.
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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    format_quote Originally Posted by wayfarer91 View Post
    Well explained.. Should u still make dua if every single thing points in the opp direction.. Every one keeps telling that its impossible.. Phr..
    And then about my friend's exam. Her life would have had far better life.
    Not necessarily. Perhaps by that she could become arrogant and lose her path from islam. Even if something that you thought was good csn be bad. You not focusing on that means you do not fully trust Allah's plan and wisdom. Sister of course that Is understandable. Certain hardships after another can make one think this way. I would advise you to increase your understanding of the religion and about or Rasool SAW. May Allah bless and make it easy for you. Remember. This isn't paradise where we get everything
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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    Greetings and peace be with you Scimi my friend,

    format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    Eric my brother, when will you take your shahadah?
    I recognise the faith in Allah that you and many other Muslims share here on this forum. I have a profound respect for you, but there are reasons I am a Christian, this thread is about duas, so I shall share one story.

    In 2011 I had tests done for cancer, about a month later the doctor phoned and said he urgently wanted to see me, it was non – Hodgkin Lymphoma. This was a name I recognised, our friend had this cancer, and died a few months later. Being told I had a possible death sentence hanging over me; was out of my hands, there was nothing I could do about it. But I still had choices, I could dictate how the cancer was going to affect my mind and my ability to cope with the news.

    A few minutes after putting the phone down; I prayed for the wisdom, strength and peace to do God’s will, whether the cancer was a death sentence, or just an inconvenience. I can only say that from the moment of making this prayer, I have experienced a profound sense of peace, and the thought of cancer has never troubled me for a moment.

    Cancer could be a truly worrying process, you wait a month or two for tests, you wait for the results, and you wait for more appointments. I have never once prayed for healing, at the age of 62, the prayer for healing seemed too complicated, it might or might not be my time to go. Recognising this profound sense of peace comes from God, gives me reason to be thankful.

    Today, I don't know if the cancer has gone or if it will come back, but these thoughts do not trouble me and I still live in peace with this knowledge.

    In the spirit of praying for a peace that surpasses all understanding, may Allah bless you on your journey.

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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    Assalamualaikum
    Wayfarer if you don't mind, can you please tell what exactly are you praying for? May be then we'll be able to understand much better Insha Allah. And we will surely pray for you as well. Not gonna judge. We don't know you in person .
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    Re: Does Allah really never grants us what we want?

    My piece I will say is this...as muslim I respect you and your choices. I will never force you or critize your religion. I will simply say this...are you sure you are on right path? Are you hundred percent sure? You aren't a bit surprised why Islam is the fastest growing religion? You haven't seen why people or even certain pastors or priests themselves revert to Islam? You have nothing to lose and only have your doubts to clear. I will simply say this...look into Islam, read more extensively, and most importantly as God to guide you to the truth. But you have to research and do your own part. As Muslims we are encouraged to look around and study other religions so we can clear our doubts and reaffirm Islam is the truth. So I simply extend this ideology to you. Either wise, it is your choice and you still have our deepest respect
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