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    Lessons Learnt from Trials -Please Contribute (OP)


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    Alhamdulillah!

    A thread to post about our Learnings from our trials over years that brought relief whether for short time or pure relief from trials .Let it benefit your Muslim brothers & sisters,InshAllah!


    #1- Don't lose tawakkul as those who trust Him gets the brightest days in dunya&hereafter both.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Revert alYunani View Post
    Thank you so much for reminding me of this.It is another lesson i wanted to mention.Be careful what you wish for.How you make the duaa.I always made duaa to Allah to make me love Him and to make me from those whom He loves.But i didnt know that smth like this doesnt come in one second.In order for me to reach that level i need huge iman,and i need to go through harsh tests and trials like gold in the furnace,i need to be purified.

    And yes you are right about everything else.Ive noticed it too.And all the hardships and tests are for our own good.

    Sayyiduna Abu Hurayrah (radiyallahu ‘anhu) reports that Nabi (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said:
    ‘When a person does not have enough good deeds to reach a certain level in Jannah, but Allah Ta’ala wants him to attain that level, then Allah Ta’ala tests him and puts him through difficult trials so that Allah may make him reach that level (in Jannah)’
    (Sahih Ibn Hibban; Al Ihsan, Hadith: 2908)
    Oh about love for Allah. I'm always scared to say it out loud no matter how I feel. We get so many trials. Allah is so jealous and needs proofs of what we're saying.

    But once I said to Allah - I can't hold this feeling for myself anymore. Please don't test me, I know I can never fulfill my duties... So I started saying it. More than that, While taking shower I write I <3 Allah on a cabin's glass. After some time, many months later, I was going through something (depression) and as depressed person I said something like "no one loves me". That day I went to a shower cabin and on opposite side I found finger - written I <3 (My name) - and I live alone

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you Revert alYunani;



    In 2011 I had tests done for cancer, about a month later the doctor phoned and said he urgently wanted to see me, it was non – Hodgkin Lymphoma. This was a name I recognised, our friend had this cancer, and died a few months later. Being told I had cancer was out of my hands, there was nothing I could do about it. But I still had choices; I could dictate how the cancer was going to affect my mind and my ability to cope with the news.

    A few minutes after putting the phone down; I prayed for the wisdom, strength and peace to do God’s will, whether the cancer was a death sentence, or just an inconvenience. I can only say that from the moment of making this prayer, I have experienced a profound sense of peace, and the thought of cancer has never troubled me for a moment.

    Cancer could be a truly worrying process, you wait a month or two for appointments, you wait for the results, and you wait for more appointments. I have never once prayed for healing, at the age of 62, the prayer for healing seemed too complicated, it might or might not be my time to go. Recognising this profound sense of peace comes from God, gives me reason to be thankful.

    In the spirit of taking the risk to put all our trust in Allah.
    Eric
    Wow, great story! Do you still have cancer?

    And yeah, I make duas until I feel the exact peace you're talking about. It's beautiful
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    Re: Lessons Learnt from Trials -Please Contribute

    Greetings and peace be with you Flos,

    format_quote Originally Posted by Flos View Post
    Wow, great story! Do you still have cancer?
    I discharged myself from the hospital after about a year or so. I am now 71, so I know I am going to die from something in the not too distant future. It might or might not be cancer, that is in the hands of God.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Flos View Post
    And yeah, I make duas until I feel the exact peace you're talking about. It's beautiful
    The peace that can only come from God is beyond our understanding. It is a peace that in our own hearts, we know we should not really be experiencing; rather we should be feeling worry anxiety and fear.

    May Allah bless you on your journey.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you Revert alYunani;



    In 2011 I had tests done for cancer, about a month later the doctor phoned and said he urgently wanted to see me, it was non – Hodgkin Lymphoma. This was a name I recognised, our friend had this cancer, and died a few months later. Being told I had cancer was out of my hands, there was nothing I could do about it. But I still had choices; I could dictate how the cancer was going to affect my mind and my ability to cope with the news.

    A few minutes after putting the phone down; I prayed for the wisdom, strength and peace to do God’s will, whether the cancer was a death sentence, or just an inconvenience. I can only say that from the moment of making this prayer, I have experienced a profound sense of peace, and the thought of cancer has never troubled me for a moment.

    Cancer could be a truly worrying process, you wait a month or two for appointments, you wait for the results, and you wait for more appointments. I have never once prayed for healing, at the age of 62, the prayer for healing seemed too complicated, it might or might not be my time to go. Recognising this profound sense of peace comes from God, gives me reason to be thankful.

    In the spirit of taking the risk to put all our trust in Allah.
    Eric
    Thank you for sharing your story with me Eric.I long for the day when you will be muslim.I cant wait for it.You are a step away from heaven,i cant wait for you to take that step.
    God is God,wether you are a christian or hindu,buddist,pagan,etc,remember the devil was already a sinner when he asked Allah to give him time,and Allah gave him time.Prayer that is directed to God is never unheard.Keep being patient and fighting,and there will be way more reasons to be thankful,i assure you of that.
    You are not taking any risk to put all your trust in Allah.Whether this is the best choice you have to put your trust in.
    And will provide for him from where he does not expect. And whoever relies upon Allah - then He is sufficient for him. Indeed, Allah will accomplish His purpose. Allah has already set for everything a [decreed] extent.
    Quran 65:3


    format_quote Originally Posted by Flos View Post
    That day I went to a shower cabin and on opposite side I found finger - written I <3 (My name) - and I live alone
    wow wow im i understanding wrong or?...So you always write in the shower cabin I love Allah but that day you went to the cabin and found 'I love (your name)'??? and you live alone but it wasnt you who wrote it?? is this what im understanding?

    Dont worry about people loving you.I totally understand how you feel because i have had very hard childhood and especially my teen years were full of depression,anxiety and humiliation.I have tried to kill myself when i was 8 years old lol.And then when i became muslim not even my family loved me.But trust me when i say this,all you need is the love of Allah,thats all you need.You know the hadith,if Allah loves you He will cause the angels and people on earth to love you.This is something i see it myself.Since I stop caring who loves me or who doesnt love me,and my relationship with Allah comes first,everybody loves me lol.The more i feel im going closer to Allah and i feel my iman increase,the more people love me.I have brothers who tell me they get happy when they see me,they feel good just by seeing me.And i am a bad muslim,imagine if i was the kind that Allah loves.Be the kind of muslim that Allah loves and everybody would love you,but you wont even be in need of their love.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Revert alYunani View Post
    wow wow im i understanding wrong or?...So you always write in the shower cabin I love Allah but that day you went to the cabin and found 'I love (your name)'??? and you live alone but it wasnt you who wrote it?? is this what im understanding?
    Yes, you understood it correctly



    format_quote Originally Posted by Revert alYunani View Post
    Dont worry about people loving you.I totally understand how you feel because i have had very hard childhood and especially my teen years were full of depression,anxiety and humiliation.I have tried to kill myself when i was 8 years old lol.And then when i became muslim not even my family loved me.But trust me when i say this,all you need is the love of Allah,thats all you need.You know the hadith,if Allah loves you He will cause the angels and people on earth to love you.This is something i see it myself.Since I stop caring who loves me or who doesnt love me,and my relationship with Allah comes first,everybody loves me lol.The more i feel im going closer to Allah and i feel my iman increase,the more people love me.I have brothers who tell me they get happy when they see me,they feel good just by seeing me.And i am a bad muslim,imagine if i was the kind that Allah loves.Be the kind of muslim that Allah loves and everybody would love you,but you wont even be in need of their love.
    It was just state of my depression mind about not being loved. I know what you mean... When I healed depression I've seen things differently. I wasn't really loved, but the waswasas made me believe it.
    Yeah, when Allah loves you then everyone does. I see it with children, animals and so many ppl told me I'm a lovable person. It's so amazing. I'm also not so good Muslimah and I can't imagine what my life would be if I were. Allah is so generous.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Flos View Post
    Oh about love for Allah. I'm always scared to say it out loud no matter how I feel. We get so many trials. Allah is so jealous and needs proofs of what we're saying.
    Haha,yrs ago I used to post miraculous kinda stuff on Twitter about my life & I got tonnes of trials afterwards,tonnes!Each&everything collided-& that's because ALLAH needs proofs!


    It's better to not proclaim it aloud as in Surah Ankaboot:2

    "Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: “We believe,” and will not be tested."


    Claim love of Allah & meet trials!

    Oh Allah-please let us live&die upon Your Love♡
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    #3-I feel hopeful in my trials to see other muslim bros& sisters in similar situations & same kinda good dreams.I feel hopeful when they say we got outta trials & got blessed with beautiful rewards!

    Alhamdulillah he Rabbil Aalameen!
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    #5- ALLAH is Most Forgiving,so do tawba,good deeds&don't lose hope of forgiveness &mess up your deeds with bad thoughts about ALLAH!
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    Ok,so I don't keep my stories of my horrible trials on the forums for long as I feel it's from Allah that I should delete them & not horrify people.But,


    I am noticing that the more I don't talk of all this bottled up in my heart the more I suffer & the fear of provoking fitan kills me.So what's the ruling on this?I need personal advice so badly,I want to shout it all but I fear causing fitan as thousands of people read these forums.Im so sick of this whole DRAMA that I'm going through since 18 years.Im unable to even move around without ease.Too much torture.No dua& no Quran ,no SADQAH,nothing has ANY effect.Why am I going through this?

    Only few good dreams is not .I have tried so hard staying on deen along with live tortures as azaab from Allah .Some of my trials matches with others,some dreams but the real story is uff- Extreme Pain!

    I fail to see Rahm.Neither on myself nor for my deeds that were done with so much of pain & under torture.Everyday,it's torment from morning to evening.Souch fears full day,eating tranquilizers to escape.I tried to escape into bit of laxing in deen but Allah Punished me so hard



    What exactly is He expecting from poor me? I'm so careful to not oppress people & because of tonnes of terrible trials,I commit sins as no one's angel here.

    The fitan of Duhayma has eaten me up.I swear I need help, someone who can listen to me & explain the violent trials,I WANT to ESCAPE this azaab!
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    Aoa. I have always been a firm believer in dua.. i used to think, that it is just a matter of asking Allah and Allah will grant it. For the last few years, I also performing salalh without missing any. And stuck on to the dua. As a result, i lost really good opportunities because i felt if I want it and go for another option thenit would mean i didnt want it thst bad earlier. As i clung on to dua, i saw the things i wanted getting further and farther away. Heck, i did dua and the very next day i lost it.
    So i stopped doing dua. And let me tell you something.i have never felt lighter. I do not have wishful thinking, irrational hopes attached with Allah anymore. I have realised fate is inevitable. God does not change it.so no use in begging only to regret later.
    Try this approach. Perhaps u will feel better
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    I was perhaps 10 years old (about 30 years back) On sundays, I had to go to the mosque for Islaam lessons. One day we've been taught how to be muezzin during salaat. So one of the salaats we had no muezzin...my grandpa suddenly yelled that I could do it, because I learnt it recently...I was totally embarrased, and felt totally uncomfortable...but did it anyways.
    Even made a few mistakes during salaat. I was so mad at my grandpa that he just threw me in cold water just like that...on my way out of the mosque I wanted to call my mother to complain about him.

    There was a telephone booth nearby with a payphone in it back then. The lady in front of me was a bit in a hurry and she threw so much money in the payphone that after she hung up, she could not get all the money out...on her way out she quickly told me I could keep the money if I could get it out.

    It took me a few minutes, but I managed to get about 10 guilders out of the phone (about 5 euro's) and was very happy...and knew instantly that it was a sign of Allah to me that I did well.

    I didn't call my mother...
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    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    Aoa. I have always been a firm believer in dua.. i used to think, that it is just a matter of asking Allah and Allah will grant it. For the last few years, I also performing salalh without missing any. And stuck on to the dua. As a result, i lost really good opportunities because i felt if I want it and go for another option thenit would mean i didnt want it thst bad earlier. As i clung on to dua, i saw the things i wanted getting further and farther away. Heck, i did dua and the very next day i lost it.
    So i stopped doing dua. And let me tell you something.i have never felt lighter. I do not have wishful thinking, irrational hopes attached with Allah anymore. I have realised fate is inevitable. God does not change it.so no use in begging only to regret later.
    Try this approach. Perhaps u will feel better
    Sister,this exactly is your test,trust me.You shouldn't give up so easily.
    Take my case,my saying Alhamdulilah brings loss of blessings,I'm scared to say this.

    When I enjoin good,it gets away from me, whatever I was doing,it's not in my reach to do again & etc


    Listen up,it's duhayma times, people are sorted into Momin & kafir in the end by their keeping away from fitan mongering & doubts.

    Smile& let go, Believe dear!
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    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post
    Sister,this exactly is your test,trust me.You shouldn't give up so easily.
    Take my case,my saying Alhamdulilah brings loss of blessings,I'm scared to say this.

    When I enjoin good,it gets away from me, whatever I was doing,it's not in my reach to do again & etc


    Listen up,it's duhayma times, people are sorted into Momin & kafir in the end by their keeping away from fitan mongering & doubts.

    Smile& let go, Believe dear!



    Aoa. Same is here.i thank Allah and He takes the things away from me. I make dua.he takes it away. Fate is inevitable. So why live on wistful thinking. That Allah cares.
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    I dont wanna sound mean but you guys (dont want to point fingers at some) need to really get some knowledge and search more.

    You know exactly why Allah takes things away. If you learnt and knew why He takes them away youd bow down and say alhamdulillah. Its very scary to live in this way. I dont know how do you live, knowing there is a Creator who controls everything and when you thank Him He takes things away. Thats totally scary and hopeless and good news for all that is NOT true!.
    Allah is the most merciful and the cares more about you than you care about yourself so please use your time to reflect and learn more for your own good!
    Allah says if you are grateful i will give you more, yet you guys say Allah takes things away when i say elhamdulillah,subhanAllah I am shocked to have read this tbh.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Revert alYunani View Post
    I dont wanna sound mean but you guys (dont want to point fingers at some) need to really get some knowledge and search more.

    You know exactly why Allah takes things away. If you learnt and knew why He takes them away youd bow down and say alhamdulillah. Its very scary to live in this way. I dont know how do you live, knowing there is a Creator who controls everything and when you thank Him He takes things away. Thats totally scary and hopeless and good news for all that is NOT true!.
    Allah is the most merciful and the cares more about you than you care about yourself so please use your time to reflect and learn more for your own good!
    Allah says if you are grateful i will give you more, yet you guys say Allah takes things away when i say elhamdulillah,subhanAllah I am shocked to have read this tbh.



    Aoa. Dear brother, you are right. We are not perfect. We sin. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes ignorantly. Does that mean until we become like the prophets: 100 pc free of sin, our duas wil go unanswered?
    I speak from heart, and my truth. I am too scared to do dua. It has come down to this. I am a sinner i know. I have heen a bad daughter. A bad sister. A bad friend. At times a bad muslimah. But im only human. I seek forgiveness and try not to repeat my sin, but sometimes unintentionally i do.. Is that why z Allah take everything away?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    Aoa. Dear brother, you are right. We are not perfect. We sin. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes ignorantly. Does that mean until we become like the prophets: 100 pc free of sin, our duas wil go unanswered?
    I speak from heart, and my truth. I am too scared to do dua. It has come down to this. I am a sinner i know. I have heen a bad daughter. A bad sister. A bad friend. At times a bad muslimah. But im only human. I seek forgiveness and try not to repeat my sin, but sometimes unintentionally i do.. Is that why z Allah take everything away?
    Alaikum salam

    Please dont reach in your own conclusions until you learn more. Just a simple google search and you can see
    everywhere that it says that the duaa is always accepted unless you hasten it. There are three ways the duaa is accepted, you either get what you want or it becomes as a barrier for a calamity that was going to fall on you, or you see it in the day of judgement.
    There are many reasons why Allah takes things away. I cant list them all and im not the right person to answer this question, but elhamdulillah internet is filled with posts and articles and videos about whatever question you have so just search.
    The choice is yours,if you wanna learn more and trust Allah when making duaa or keep thinking bad about it. How would you feel when youd be in the day of judgement and see all the other people getting reward for the duaas they made. Youd wish you went back and start making duaa everyday and not hasten it.
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    Bro,you do not understand that its a big trial.Things are happening to some or many.Its all trials.Things settle down too.

    Please do not misunderstand as i.do nt act ingrate or undermine the good from Allah.

    I have read alot already on gratitude

    Either give a detailed understanding on this fitan that includes that when ever we try toget closer to our Rabb,things become a storm that lea es people woth this idea to be lax & not get into depth.
    Its a huge trial & some authentic ulema can explain it,those with great knowledge

    Again its part of fitan duhayma!
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Revert alYunani View Post
    I dont wanna sound mean but you guys (dont want to point fingers at some) need to really get some knowledge and search more.

    You know exactly why Allah takes things away. If you learnt and knew why He takes them away youd bow down and say alhamdulillah. Its very scary to live in this way. I dont know how do you live, knowing there is a Creator who controls everything and when you thank Him He takes things away. Thats totally scary and hopeless and good news for all that is NOT true!.
    Allah is the most merciful and the cares more about you than you care about yourself so please use your time to reflect and learn more for your own good!
    Allah says if you are grateful i will give you more, yet you guys say Allah takes things away when i say elhamdulillah,subhanAllah I am shocked to have read this tbh.
    If it happened to you,then an answr from you will be weighty.Only if u live it!all this is happening in fitan Duhayma around the world not just me & i said i dont want to spread fitan ,so i dont tell what i suffer nor interest .Stay away from Talking in fitan without knowledge .

    I have beautiful dreams of relief too but some days can be very trying if its been already long.

    I know its just a trial for all of us & we need to make dua anyway with focus or at times just repeat it if we having doubts. Allah is Merciful &the reward in the end is marvellous,Aameen



    Big Fact: People have issues, many have & many lives settled
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    Re: Lessons Learnt from Trials -Please Contribute

    format_quote Originally Posted by Revert alYunani View Post
    Alaikum salam

    Please dont reach in your own conclusions until you learn more. Just a simple google search and you can see
    everywhere that it says that the duaa is always accepted unless you hasten it. There are three ways the duaa is accepted, you either get what you want or it becomes as a barrier for a calamity that was going to fall on you, or you see it in the day of judgement.
    There are many reasons why Allah takes things away. I cant list them all and im not the right person to answer this question, but elhamdulillah internet is filled with posts and articles and videos about whatever question you have so just search.
    The choice is yours,if you wanna learn more and trust Allah when making duaa or keep thinking bad about it. How would you feel when youd be in the day of judgement and see all the other people getting reward for the duaas they made. Youd wish you went back and start making duaa everyday and not hasten it.


    Aoa. I ve read and done extensive study on this. Everywhere there is these things dua is accpeted in one of 3 ways, dua should not be hastened and etc. I wrote earlier i used to be a firm believer in dua. Just do it was my approach. If you keep knocking at ur friends door, everyday 5 times a day, and they dont answr u are bound to get disheartened. So why waste ur time in dua while we can easily accept fate. Take my last 2 yrs as an example. If i hadn't relied on dua unrealistically i would have been in a much better and happier place right now. I might not even be on any platform looking to distract my mind. I am also aware of the temporary nature of this world. I am aware that i am the biggest sinner in this world.. I try to stay on the right path but fail miserablu sometimes. Bit this isn't my concern. My only disappointment is my unrealistic and surreal faith i had in dua.
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    I must say the fitan of end times are very scary.The best becoming worst
    By Allah,those who observe events, trials of Ummah & individual trials know it.

    The cure is knowledge,dua& keeping hope


    Bro Revert Yunani,yes its true we all lack in knowledge but we need advice with hikmah knowing our situation, our efforts ,our past or future hopes

    You see its been years of people's struggle & people have been reading Islamic texts too with Duhayma fitan ,people feel hopeless as things take time to settle down & they do if we look around others.Sometimes we meed a miracle, a miracle that ends tje painful times if we believe im Quran & Ahadeeth truly & He gives too
    Its pain but its worth in end

    So ,i believe carry on the Deen with hope of good end is the best motivation for everyone& dua shouldn't be abondoned.Its a blessing if we can do it.

    My trials are roller coasters rides,so i believe im a specific case& i CAN'T even think of wrotitmg details. Its that horrifying but since i get good dreams, i l move ahead.

    Allah knows the best
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    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    Aoa. Same is here.i thank Allah and He takes the things away from me. I make dua.he takes it away. Fate is inevitable. So why live on wistful thinking. That Allah cares.
    I haven't been here for quite some time and I'm back to this topic, finding something that shocked me - your statement.

    First of all, if you believe that when you thank Allah for a blessing He's gonna take the blessing away is kufr. I'm so sorry for saying this, but it's true. This statement goes against Qur'aan : "If you're grateful, I'll give you more" (14:7). Please don't do it!

    Another thing - believing that He's not Merciful, OMG.



    Next, Allah always leaves you to what you believe. That's part of belief. Example: If you believe that breaking mirror will bring you 7 years of misery, it'll happen, just because you distrusted Allah by believing something out of Islam, Qur'aan, Sunnah... If you believe Allah will not give you what you're making dua for, He wont - you don't trust Him.

    From my own experience, the moment I started thanking Him for every single little thing, my life transformed.
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