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    ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    ithmid antimony (also known as kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

    its actually called ithmid but some people call it kohl, surma and kajal make sure you get ithmid as this is the sunnah,
    be careful of some of the kohl, surma, kajal that you find it some asian groceries and islamic shops because its got lead in it or something along those lines Allah SWT knows best

    i found some i got many years ago, its the redish one and i think i also got the black colour one,
    the redish one i got also has zam zam in it or something like that, anyways do any of you struggle to put it on due to its powder nature?

    Is the use of surma for the eyes a sunnat?
    https://islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/313

    Pure kohl is beneficial to the eyes and is not harmful
    https://islamqa.info/en/answers/4469...is-not-harmful

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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

    oh ma shaa Allah brother we are doing the same thing at the same time ,searching for turbans,kufi,ithmid etc.
    Thank you for sharing this info.The thing is that is too hard to find real ithmid.People take advantage and you can find many things under the name ithmid or kohl,factory manufactured products which are bad for your eyes,rather ithmid is beneficial and sunnah.I have a friend who has real ithmid,he got it from afganistan.Its like a stone and you rub smth on it to grind it down and you put that on your eyelashes.
    I didnt know it came in colors though,you sure it is real ithmid? I thought it was dark grey color,like gunpowder
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Revert alYunani View Post
    oh ma shaa Allah brother we are doing the same thing at the same time ,searching for turbans,kufi,ithmid etc.
    Thank you for sharing this info.The thing is that is too hard to find real ithmid.People take advantage and you can find many things under the name ithmid or kohl,factory manufactured products which are bad for your eyes,rather ithmid is beneficial and sunnah.I have a friend who has real ithmid,he got it from afganistan.Its like a stone and you rub smth on it to grind it down and you put that on your eyelashes.
    I didnt know it came in colors though,you sure it is real ithmid? I thought it was dark grey color,like gunpowder
    yea its actually a stone which is grinded into powder

    i got the top one from this black list but i dont know how genuine this black list is and how genuine this seller is
    https://realithmidkohl.com/avoid-at-...-kohl-products

    yea it does come in the red colour too bro, ive only ever seen it in black and that redish colour
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    yea its actually a stone which is grinded into powder

    i got the top one from this black list but i dont know how genuine this black list is and how genuine this seller is
    https://realithmidkohl.com/avoid-at-...-kohl-products

    yea it does come in the red colour too bro, ive only ever seen it in black and that redish colour
    my friend has the actual stone,he grinds it himself....but how do you put this in the eye i mean what if it gets inside? isnt it painful?
    lool yeah better not to buy red bro,its like putting red mascara,wed have a ton of weird looks ....
    you mean you bought this one? ill buy it too then if you bought it.

    https://realithmidkohl.com/product/g...b5%d9%84%d9%8a

    and what kind of pharfume do you use? I think of buying this one
    https://mbarkpe.com.sa/en/product/eter-alkhenjar/

    nvm i cant buy it with paypal...sigh..
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Revert alYunani View Post
    my friend has the actual stone,he grinds it himself....but how do you put this in the eye i mean what if it gets inside? isnt it painful?
    lool yeah better not to buy red bro,its like putting red mascara,wed have a ton of weird looks ....
    you mean you bought this one? ill buy it too then if you bought it.

    https://realithmidkohl.com/product/g...b5%d9%84%d9%8a

    and what kind of pharfume do you use? I think of buying this one
    https://mbarkpe.com.sa/en/product/eter-alkhenjar/
    nah ive not got it from there but how are we suppose to know if theyre genuine? i mean they claim the other ones arent genuine so how do we know theirs is?

    i dont mind paying for it but i need to determine whether its the real thing
    their black and red ithmid looks sick though Alhamdulillah Allahumma Bareek

    do you know where you can buy the stone from? who cares about looks the sunnah is usperier to anything in the universe, besides its sunnah to wear it at night
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    nah ive not got it from there but how are we suppose to know if theyre genuine? i mean they claim the other ones arent genuine so how do we know theirs is?

    i dont mind paying for it but i need to determine whether its the real thing
    their black and red ithmid looks sick though Alhamdulillah Allahumma Bareek

    do you know where you can buy the stone from? who cares about looks the sunnah is usperier to anything in the universe, besides its sunnah to wear it at night
    i dont know bro thats why i didnt buy any.Everybody claims their product is the original,then you talk to the support and they dont even say alaikum salam.So idk,well the only way to buy the stone and to be sure its original is afganistan lol.Thats where my friend bought it. But if you bought it i will buy that one too i guess.I mean they have an article in their page saying how to indentify pure ithmid kohl so i guess this page is the better option we have.
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    i dont know bro thats why i didnt buy any.Everybody claims their product is the original,then you talk to the support and they dont even say alaikum salam.So idk,well the only way to buy the stone and to be sure its original is afganistan lol.Thats where my friend bought it. But if you bought it i will buy that one too i guess.I mean they have an article in their page saying how to indentify pure ithmid kohl so i guess this page is the better option we have.
    you from the uk too bro?

    yea lets try searching and souricng the stones and then grind them and help distrube and revive the sunnah fisabillah in sha Allah
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    you from the uk too bro?

    yea lets try searching and souricng the stones and then grind them and help distrube and revive the sunnah fisabillah in sha Allah
    no im from greece but live in germany
    in shaa Allah if i ever find across a stone i will remember you in shaa Allah and msg you.No worries
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    no im from greece but live in germany
    in shaa Allah if i ever find across a stone i will remember you in shaa Allah and msg you.No worries
    yea same, like wise in sha Allah

    do you know what countries the stone originates from?

    i need to start doing some research into in sha Allah
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    yea same, like wise in sha Allah

    do you know what countries the stone originates from?

    i need to start doing some research into in sha Allah
    no because to know that we need to know the chemical structure of the stone itself.What is the real kohl called in chemistry.If we know that then its easy to find.
    From what i see is called stibnite stone or stibium.And is not found alone but when you mine silver or zinc for example you may find this too.Allahu Alem though im not sure.Theres a lot of info i dont know who to trust
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    no because to know that we need to know the chemical structure of the stone itself.What is the real kohl called in chemistry.If we know that then its easy to find.
    From what i see is called stibnite stone or stibium.And is not found alone but when you mine silver or zinc for example you may find this too.Allahu Alem though im not sure.Theres a lot of info i dont know who to trust
    well i found this one, claims its the pure ithmid in stone, i've sent him a few questions regard it, see what he says in sha Allah

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122287633...m=122287633952
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    well i found this one, claims its the pure ithmid in stone, i've sent him a few questions regard it, see what he says in sha Allah

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122287633...m=122287633952
    in shaa Allah,let me know what he says and if we gonna buy it

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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    in shaa Allah,let me know what he says and if we gonna buy it

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    okay brother i got a reply, its suppore to be pure ithmid and its the stone, they dont grind it

    any idea what you use to grind it? maybe a coffee grinder?

    i asked which country its from and they replied that its from KSA

    i asked if they got the red one but they dont have that one at all

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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    okay brother i got a reply, its suppore to be pure ithmid and its the stone, they dont grind it

    any idea what you use to grind it? maybe a coffee grinder?

    i asked which country its from and they replied that its from KSA

    i asked if they got the red one but they dont have that one at all

    Allah SWT knows best
    what coffee grinder man haha,you dont want to use the grinder anymore or what xp....i will ask my friend and let you know
    so we buy this then? if you buy it ill buy it
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    what coffee grinder man haha,you dont want to use the grinder anymore or what xp....i will ask my friend and let you know
    so we buy this then? if you buy it ill buy it
    What else could you use to grind the stone down though? Lool ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

    Coffee grinder just came to mind, you know what you going to laugh bro but you could use those small grinders the pot heads use to grind their weed lol
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    What else could you use to grind the stone down though? Lool ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

    Coffee grinder just came to mind, you know what you going to laugh bro but you could use those small grinders the pot heads use to grind their weed lol
    loool but what do you think these stones are,microscopic? jaja...he is not replying,we have to wait

    I was thinking maybe a cheese schredder? with tiny holes like this...could work

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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    loool but what do you think these stones are,microscopic? jaja...he is not replying,we have to wait

    I was thinking maybe a cheese schredder? with tiny holes like this...could work

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    I cracked up when I saw that cheese grater bro lool ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

    Ermmm I genuinely think those weed grinders will do the job Allah SWT knows best lol

    Maybe some sisters can help us?
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    Maybe some sisters can help us?
    to find us the weed grinder?



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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    to find us the weed grinder?



    Lol ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it? ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

    Bro seriously what else could we use for grinding it? Unless it's soft where it crumbles with your finger, doubt it though as it's a stone tbh
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    Re: ithmid antimony (kohl, surma, kajal) eyeliner - sunnah - do you wear it?

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    Bro seriously what else could we use for grinding it? Unless it's soft where it crumbles with your finger, doubt it though as it's a stone tbh
    it says it is a soft metalloid that can be stratched by glass,that means cheese grater is perfect ,you can try with your coffee grinder i guess.We will find smth dont worry.
    So, do we buy it ?
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