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    Unhappy with a marriage proposal! (OP)


    Aoa. I received a marriage proposal. My parents loved it. I don't. Apart from not being financially stable, the guy does not even have a job but due to my age and my parent's age, they are pressuring me into saying yes. I have no other way out. Please pray that i get what i want. It is a humble request. Please .i dont want this, but i cant say no.

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

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    Oh, also....your father have no right to kick you out because you don't want to get married. IT IS HIS DUTY TO WORK FOR YOU and provide for you and PROTECT YOU and make sure you have a comfortable home and life.
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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    I understand where you are coming from. Your rights are not protected. Your parents don't respect you as a person, your father is exhausted from being a dad, and they are forcing you to get married to a man you don't want or love and he is not even a religious man and in addition to that you may fear he is lazy and will force you to work while he stays home and do nothing.

    It is already being cleared sister that your parents have obsoletely no right to force you to marriage.
    Yes. But i have accepted my fate. No matter how much u plan, or pray, or make effort. Fate is inevitable...

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    Asalamu alaykum sis,

    I hope this finds you in the best of iman and health.

    I would say praying to Allah swt and ask Allah for best way out. Also please remember to remind respectful to your parents. I know it easy said then done but think about it. Maybe this is your test. Maybe Allah swt is testing you with this to see how your deal with it. Am not saying agree with your father but put trust in Allah swt.

    May I ask? Do you pray your 5 daily salat?

    How is your relationship with Allah swt?


    Allah swt says in Surah Al Baqarah

    وَلَنَبْلُوَنَّكُم بِشَىْءٍ مِّنَ ٱلْخَوْفِ وَٱلْجُوعِ وَنَقْصٍ مِّنَ ٱلْأَمْوَٰلِ وَٱلْأَنفُسِ وَٱلثَّمَرَٰتِ ۗ وَبَشِّرِ ٱلصَّٰبِرِينَ


    155. Walanabluwannakum bishayin mina alkhawfi waaljooAAi wanaqsin mina alamwali waalanfusi waalththamarati wabashshiri alssabireena

    Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere,

    ٱلَّذِينَ إِذَآ أَصَٰبَتْهُم مُّصِيبَةٌ قَالُوٓا۟ إِنَّا لِلَّهِ وَإِنَّآ إِلَيْهِ رَٰجِعُونَ
    156. Allatheena itha asabathum museebatun qaloo inna lillahi wainna ilayhi rajiAAoona

    Who say, when afflicted with calamity: "To Allah We belong, and to Him is our return":-
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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amatullah_M View Post
    Asalamu alaykum sis,

    I hope this finds you in the best of iman and health.

    I would say praying to Allah swt and ask Allah for best way out. Also please remember to remind respectful to your parents. I know it easy said then done but think about it. Maybe this is your test. Maybe Allah swt is testing you with this to see how your deal with it. Am not saying agree with your father but put trust in Allah swt.

    May I ask? Do you pray your 5 daily salat?

    How is your relationship with Allah swt?


    Allah swt says in Surah Al Baqarah

    وَلَنَبْلُوَنَّكُم بِشَىْءٍ مِّنَ ٱلْخَوْفِ وَٱلْجُوعِ وَنَقْصٍ مِّنَ ٱلْأَمْوَٰلِ وَٱلْأَنفُسِ وَٱلثَّمَرَٰتِ ۗ وَبَشِّرِ ٱلصَّٰبِرِينَ


    155. Walanabluwannakum bishayin mina alkhawfi waaljooAAi wanaqsin mina alamwali waalanfusi waalththamarati wabashshiri alssabireena

    Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere,

    ٱلَّذِينَ إِذَآ أَصَٰبَتْهُم مُّصِيبَةٌ قَالُوٓا۟ إِنَّا لِلَّهِ وَإِنَّآ إِلَيْهِ رَٰجِعُونَ
    156. Allatheena itha asabathum museebatun qaloo inna lillahi wainna ilayhi rajiAAoona

    Who say, when afflicted with calamity: "To Allah We belong, and to Him is our return":-
    Aoa.what should i ddo? Do i keep doing dua to Allah? Or should i just accept my fate?

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    Aoa.what should i ddo? Do i keep doing dua to Allah? Or should i just accept my fate?

    Asalamu alaykum sis,

    Please try to do this as much as you can and I ask Allah swt to make it easy for you.

    1 Make your daily salah.

    2 make time to read the Quran If it’s not a part of your daily routine, begin with only a few minutes a day. Start small and then gradually increase. It won’t seem so dramatic and feel burdensome that way. Time will in shaa Allah expand for you eventually. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “Such a person (who) recites the Qur’an and masters it by heart, will be with the noble righteous scribes (in Heaven). And such a person (who) exerts himself to learn the Qur’an by heart, and recites it with great difficulty, will have a double reward.” [Bukhari]

    3 evening and morning duas.
    Allah also says

    {يا أيها الذين آمنوا اذكروا الله ذكرا كثيرا وسبحوه بكرة وأصيلا}

    (Believers, remember Allah a great deal, and glorify Him morning and evening) [4].


    ( you should engage in verbal utterances of Dhikr. Whenever you are free, for example, in the car, cooking, doing chores, you can gain reward by saying Dhikr like “Subhan Allah” and “Alhamdu lillah”.

    4 Use kind words with your parents. ( وَوَصَّيْنَا ٱلْإِنسَٰنَ بِوَٰلِدَيْهِ حَمَلَتْهُ أُمُّهُۥ وَهْنًا عَلَىٰ وَهْنٍ وَفِصَٰلُهُۥ فِى عَامَيْنِ أَنِ ٱشْكُرْ لِى وَلِوَٰلِدَيْكَ إِلَىَّ ٱلْمَصِيرُ) 13:14 14. And We have enjoined on man (to be good) to his parents: in travail upon travail did his mother bear him, and in years twain was his weaning: (hear the command), "Show gratitude to Me and to thy parents: to Me is (thy final) Goal.

    Prophet Muhammad reinforced the duty to be kind to parents. A companion of the Prophet once asked him which of the many good deeds a man can do is the most loved by God. Prophet Muhammad answered him by saying, “To offer the prayer in its proper time”. The companion then asked, “And what is next?” to which Prophet Muhammad replied, “To be good and dutiful to your parents…”[1]. The responsibility to be kind and good to parents comes right after the greatest duty in Islam, the prayer.

    Every night before you go to sleep forgive everyone who has ever wronged
    You knownly or unknowingly.

    Allah said:

    خُذِ الْعَفْوَ وَأْمُرْ بِالْعُرْفِ وَأَعْرِضْ عَنِ الْجَاهِلِينَ

    Show forgiveness, enjoin what is good, and turn away from the ignorant.

    Surat Al-A’raf 7:199

    And Allah said:

    وَإِنَّ السَّاعَةَ لَآتِيَةٌ ۖ فَاصْفَحِ الصَّفْحَ الْجَمِيلَ

    Verily, the Hour is coming, so forgive them with gracious forgiveness.

    SuratAl-Hijr 15:85
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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amatullah_M View Post
    Asalamu alaykum sis,

    Please try to do this as much as you can and I ask Allah swt to make it easy for you.

    1 Make your daily salah.

    2 make time to read the Quran If it’s not a part of your daily routine, begin with only a few minutes a day. Start small and then gradually increase. It won’t seem so dramatic and feel burdensome that way. Time will in shaa Allah expand for you eventually. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “Such a person (who) recites the Qur’an and masters it by heart, will be with the noble righteous scribes (in Heaven). And such a person (who) exerts himself to learn the Qur’an by heart, and recites it with great difficulty, will have a double reward.” [Bukhari]

    3 evening and morning duas.
    Allah also says

    {يا أيها الذين آمنوا اذكروا الله ذكرا كثيرا وسبحوه بكرة وأصيلا}

    (Believers, remember Allah a great deal, and glorify Him morning and evening) [4].


    ( you should engage in verbal utterances of Dhikr. Whenever you are free, for example, in the car, cooking, doing chores, you can gain reward by saying Dhikr like “Subhan Allah” and “Alhamdu lillah”.

    4 Use kind words with your parents. ( وَوَصَّيْنَا ٱلْإِنسَٰنَ بِوَٰلِدَيْهِ حَمَلَتْهُ أُمُّهُۥ وَهْنًا عَلَىٰ وَهْنٍ وَفِصَٰلُهُۥ فِى عَامَيْنِ أَنِ ٱشْكُرْ لِى وَلِوَٰلِدَيْكَ إِلَىَّ ٱلْمَصِيرُ) 13:14 14. And We have enjoined on man (to be good) to his parents: in travail upon travail did his mother bear him, and in years twain was his weaning: (hear the command), "Show gratitude to Me and to thy parents: to Me is (thy final) Goal.

    Prophet Muhammad reinforced the duty to be kind to parents. A companion of the Prophet once asked him which of the many good deeds a man can do is the most loved by God. Prophet Muhammad answered him by saying, “To offer the prayer in its proper time”. The companion then asked, “And what is next?” to which Prophet Muhammad replied, “To be good and dutiful to your parents…”[1]. The responsibility to be kind and good to parents comes right after the greatest duty in Islam, the prayer.

    Every night before you go to sleep forgive everyone who has ever wronged
    You knownly or unknowingly.

    Allah said:

    خُذِ الْعَفْوَ وَأْمُرْ بِالْعُرْفِ وَأَعْرِضْ عَنِ الْجَاهِلِينَ

    Show forgiveness, enjoin what is good, and turn away from the ignorant.

    Surat Al-A’raf 7:199

    And Allah said:

    وَإِنَّ السَّاعَةَ لَآتِيَةٌ ۖ فَاصْفَحِ الصَّفْحَ الْجَمِيلَ

    Verily, the Hour is coming, so forgive them with gracious forgiveness.

    SuratAl-Hijr 15:85
    AOA. thank you...i am doing dua continuously

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    AOA. thank you...i am doing dua continuously
    Keep going and make lots of dua at tahajjud this ramadan and hope the best from Allah. May Allah make you steadfast on islam. Ameen.

    السلام عليكم ورحمةالله وبركاته
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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    I understand where you are coming from. Your rights are not protected. Your parents don't respect you as a person, your father is exhausted from being a dad, and they are forcing you to get married to a man you don't want or love and he is not even a religious man and in addition to that you may fear he is lazy and will force you to work while he stays home and do nothing.

    It is already being cleared sister that your parents have obsoletely no right to force you to marriage.


    Aoa. They dont listen they think because they feed me gave birth to me, have right to do whatever they want. I tried talking to my mother but she took ssome meds and wento sleep.. Didnt even wakeup for sahoor.

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    Aoa. They dont listen they think because they feed me gave birth to me, have right to do whatever they want. I tried talking to my mother but she took ssome meds and wento sleep.. Didnt even wakeup for sahoor.
    Tell them that you will use the logic against them (don't tell them that, just use the logic against them). If they fed you, gave birth to you, tell them that Allah(Subhanahu Wa Talaa) created them and give them that ability to give birth, and Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) is the one who created the soul. Giving birth to a baby without a soul..is like giving birth to a sack of meat. Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) is the one who shaped the body, he is the one who created the child, gave life to it and even instilled intelligence to the child. Allah(Subhanahu Wa Talaa) is the one who gives sustenance so in the end you don't belong to your parents and the parents don't own you. You are the property of Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and so are they. Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) have entrusted them to take care of you, but also they will be questioned and they will be punished if they oppress you. You have right to marry and you have right to refusal of marriage. If they don't stop soon and repent then they will be questioned and even punished heavily for doing haraam and oppressing you. Remind them to fear Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) if they are truly a believing Muslim.

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    Let us put it simple. If you don't want to ever get married, ever, ever, ever and prefer hoor al-ein instead, you have full right to that. You can tell them, that it is pointless if I get married if I end up in hellfire and if I will enter paradise I want a hoor al-ein instead of a man from this world. You could do that. So you could tell me that you want that option open to you that is why you don't want to get married. You could do that also. Lots of women do that. However, if you ever wish to go that route you cannot have children from your own and you agree with the term that you will not be a mother. You will not enjoy child birthing, have the power of a mother, have the reward of the paradise under your feet and the ability to enter from seven doors of paradise by being the best wife to your husband. If you are willing to trade all of that for hoor al-ein or a man created for you in paradise as your husband, why not. That is your choice.

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    I understand where you are coming from. Your rights are not protected. Your parents don't respect you as a person, your father is exhausted from being a dad, and they are forcing you to get married to a man you don't want or love and he is not even a religious man and in addition to that you may fear he is lazy and will force you to work while he stays home and do nothing.

    It is already being cleared sister that your parents have obsoletely no right to force you to marriage.
    Aoa. I am too afraid to disobey my parents. Perhaps i deserve this.. I was never a good muslim, let alone a good daughter. Fate is inevitable. I am going to accept my fate.. Happiness is not meant for everyone

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    Aoa. I am too afraid to disobey my parents. Perhaps i deserve this.. I was never a good muslim, let alone a good daughter. Fate is inevitable. I am going to accept my fate.. Happiness is not meant for everyone
    Just understand that is your own decision making. In that case, you should be happy with your choice, not be sad, don't complain about your parents and if should this marriage commence, you accepted this marriage willingly. Therefore, it is no longer a forced marriage. A forced marriage is a marriage where you are kicking and screaming and do not want to get married and they marry you to this person while saying no and still saying no and having hatred and anger and and and. In your case, you are saying I accept this (thus you agreed to the term) and just do what your parents say, thus now it is completely on your shoulder and your decision making.

    Happiness is never forever. You are happy one day, sad another day, angry another day. Just remember, if you agree and marry him...now the responsibility of being a good wife and fulfilling his rights, up to and including intimacy falls on your shoulder to complete them. If you deny him his right to sleep with you, you are now a cursed woman until you repent and stop. You still have a chance to refuse and not do it even if they force you...because if you kick and scream and refuse and they marry you by force this marriage is not accepted.

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Just understand that is your own decision making. In that case, you should be happy with your choice, not be sad, don't complain about your parents and if should this marriage commence, you accepted this marriage willingly. Therefore, it is no longer a forced marriage. A forced marriage is a marriage where you are kicking and screaming and do not want to get married and they marry you to this person while saying no and still saying no and having hatred and anger and and and. In your case, you are saying I accept this (thus you agreed to the term) and just do what your parents say, thus now it is completely on your shoulder and your decision making.

    Happiness is never forever. You are happy one day, sad another day, angry another day. Just remember, if you agree and marry him...now the responsibility of being a good wife and fulfilling his rights, up to and including intimacy falls on your shoulder to complete them. If you deny him his right to sleep with you, you are now a cursed woman until you repent and stop. You still have a chance to refuse and not do it even if they force you...because if you kick and scream and refuse and they marry you by force this marriage is not accepted.

    Aoa. It is still forced. I told my dad I didn't want to marry this guy he started giving me bad duas. Told my mum she said there is no more room for u in this house. My siblings aren't helping eithr. Keep telling me to say yes.
    Well then I remain a cursed woman. Islam never really favored women anyway..why would this be any different.

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    Unbelievable how ungrateful women can be. Unbelievable. Everything Allah have given women and still she dares says to Allah that he have have given her nothing. She dares to say to her creator that he does not favor women. An entire surah titled women is not sufficient for her. The fact that women can handle diseases better than men could is still not sufficient for her. The fact that women excel in education better than men, is still not sufficient for her. The fact that Allah have given her the ability to give birth and is still not sufficient for her. The fact in Islam mothers given to be treated best of treatment three times over a father and that is still not sufficient for her. The fact that men dies faster than women and is still not sufficient for her. The fact that a man need to work like a slave to pay for an adult who he marries, and he have to pay mahir for an adult who is more than capable to do the same job if not better than him, and yet he still he have to work for her and she get to keep all her wealth and that is still not sufficient for her. No! She still believes Allah have given her the end of the stick. No parents are allowed to force a woman into marriage and if she says no, then it is no. Yet it is still not sufficient for her. No! The fact, that Allah does not work for his creation, that even if the parents curses you from the moon to the sky and back ten times over, it doesn't mean it will be answered. Especially, if they are in the wrong. It is forbidden to force your children into marriage, even if the parents curses them that curse may return back to the parents. Yet, what you typed above are dangerous words (and in Ramadaan too), you could be in a thin line leading to disbelieve. I have no right to say you disbelieved, but you are dangerously going in that direction. You are showing how ungrateful you are toward your creator and in addition to that, you are announcing to the world that Allah opppresses women. That is disbelieve and kufir if you believe in that. Your words above are implying that!

    Islam does not favor women? Are you serious? Are you serious?? Instead of attacking the most perfect religion on Earth, perhaps you need to learn more about your deen and your rights before opening your mouth. Repent, renew your shahada, do istigfar, beg and ask Allah to forgive you. Never utter these words again and don't believe on them. You have bigger issues on your plate than your parents forcing you to marriage. Sister, if you really think the grass is greener on the other side, by all means go there. You will find that the ones who truly are oppressed as women are the non-Muslim women, even the feminist are living a miserable life. Allah knows the nature of male and female and have set roles that fit their nature best.
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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Unbelievable how ungrateful women can be. Unbelievable. Everything Allah have given women and still she dares says to Allah that he have have given her nothing. She dares to say to her creator that he does not favor women. An entire surah titled women is not sufficient for her. The fact that women can handle diseases better than men could is still not sufficient for her. The fact that women excel in education better than men, is still not sufficient for her. The fact that Allah have given her the ability to give birth and is still not sufficient for her. The fact in Islam mothers given to be treated best of treatment three times over a father and that is still not sufficient for her. The fact that men dies faster than women and is still not sufficient for her. The fact that a man need to work like a slave to pay for an adult who he marries, and he have to pay mahir for an adult who is more than capable to do the same job if not better than him, and yet he still he have to work for her and she get to keep all her wealth and that is still not sufficient for her. No! She still believes Allah have given her the end of the stick. No parents are allowed to force a woman into marriage and if she says no, then it is no. Yet it is still not sufficient for her. No! The fact, that Allah does not work for his creation, that even if the parents curses you from the moon to the sky and back ten times over, it doesn't mean it will be answered. Especially, if they are in the wrong. It is forbidden to force your children into marriage, even if the parents curses them that curse may return back to the parents. Yet, what you typed above are dangerous words (and in Ramadaan too), you could be in a thin line leading to disbelieve. I have no right to say you disbelieved, but you are dangerously going in that direction. You are showing how ungrateful you are toward your creator and in addition to that, you are announcing to the world that Allah opppresses women. That is disbelieve and kufir if you believe in that. Your words above are implying that!

    Islam does not favor women? Are you serious? Are you serious?? Instead of attacking the most perfect religion on Earth, perhaps you need to learn more about your deen and your rights before opening your mouth. Repent, renew your shahada, do istigfar, beg and ask Allah to forgive you. Never utter these words again and don't believe on them. You have bigger issues on your plate than your parents forcing you to marriage. Sister, if you really think the grass is greener on the other side, by all means go there. You will find that the ones who truly are oppressed as women are the non-Muslim women, even the feminist are living a miserable life. Allah knows the nature of male and female and have set roles that fit their nature best.


    Aoa, in your previous comment u said if a woman says no to her husband then she is cursed, no where does it say in any other religion that a woman should be constantly se*ually available and if she isnt, she is cursed,
    talking about child birth, do you have even the slightest idea of how painful it is? women die during this, are left with permanent scars and what not. A man can has multiple wives, to this day, but in many societies a woman marryin post divorce is considered bad.before you bring in the argument that this is a social issue, who created society? who allowed people to have such a mind set?
    And yeah, again with the primordial argument of how the western woman, esp the feminists are oppressed, might ellaborating it? also, there is this concept of mental torture, evne if the badduas do not materialize, a single bad word from the parent can be unbelievably traumatizing. I know, because i suffered all my life, resulting in the lowest selfesteem, resulting in me making some of the stupidest mistakes in life, one of them being unrealistic belief in dua. so brother, do not argue, when you are not a woman!

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    Aoa, in your previous comment u said if a woman says no to her husband then she is cursed, no where does it say in any other religion that a woman should be constantly se*ually available and if she isnt, she is cursed,
    Let us put it this way, the nature of a man and you can observe it with non-Muslim men who don't believe in Allah and whose this world is his paradise, he doesn't want to get married anyways. Why would he marry to a woman who value depreciate as each day passes, where she gets fat, where she loses interest sexually to her partner, especially when she have children, who cut her hair short and who bad mouth her man everyday nonstop, nagging and belittling him? He better get new model each day. I am talking about non-Muslim man who live through carnal desires. To him, marriage holds zero benefit. Let us switch to here, in Islam he is shackled by his legs to take care of an adult person, to pamper her, to make her feel good when she goes through emotional mood swings, he is the one who is ordered to die for his family, ok? Is it too much to ask that you always look good for him? To fulfill his needs? Why in the world would he even marry you anyways if it is not to fulfill his sexual desires in halal way? Sure, to build family, etc, but priority 1st is to avoid him doing haraam. How many stories do you read where man masturbate, watch porn, etc? Why do you think that is a pandemic world wide? Because we make marriage too difficult and too not appealing for a man and the wife denies him sexual intimacy, naturally this is going to lead to haraam and then blame the man for not been able to control himself.

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    talking about child birth, do you have even the slightest idea of how painful it is?
    And you got your reward for it. So stop complaining. You have full custody of the child (when divorce breaks), you have paradise underneath the feet of the mother, and you have right to be treated three times more than a father. Don't forget, this world is a prison and hardship for Muslims and paradise for non-Muslim. Every pain and suffering you get from child birthing to delivering to parenting your elevated higher in paradise and get rewarded for it and your sins are removed. Something no man have this privilege's to get. Yet your ungratefulness and ingratitude and complaining is repulsive at best.

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    women die during this
    Then you die a shaheed. Stop complaining and celebrate. Every Muslim wants to die shaheed. What better honor to die delivering a child and end up shaheed like a man dying for the cause of Allah!

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    , are left with permanent scars
    You should be proud of it. It is an honor. Much like men get bride getting scarred and deformed in battle and war, you should be proud getting deformed and scarred delivering a child. That scar is a gift, a trophy from Allah. You show again ungratefulness. I petty any man marrying you with such attitude.

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    and what not. A man can has multiple wives, to this day,
    You have a problem with Allah's decree? How dare you have the audacity in objecting with Allah's command. Yet you call yourself a Muslim? Remember, there are rules to having multiple wives and few man are able to exercise it. But you have the nerve, the gall to object in the command of Allah (and in Ramadaan too). Who do you think you are? Listen up men, women like her should be avoided until she mature up and grow up. You sound like a little girl who have not passed age seven yet.


    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    but in many societies a woman marryin post divorce is considered bad
    That is because those societies are astray far from Islam not because of Islam. Learn your deen before you speak. Everything coming out of your mouth is from sheer ignorance.

    I am not even going to bother with the rest of mummbling...I need to take a shower after reading your reply.

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Let us put it this way, the nature of a man and you can observe it with non-Muslim men who don't believe in Allah and whose this world is his paradise, he doesn't want to get married anyways. Why would he marry to a woman who value depreciate as each day passes, where she gets fat, where she loses interest sexually to her partner, especially when she have children, who cut her hair short and who bad mouth her man everyday nonstop, nagging and belittling him? He better get new model each day. I am talking about non-Muslim man who live through carnal desires. To him, marriage holds zero benefit. Let us switch to here, in Islam he is shackled by his legs to take care of an adult person, to pamper her, to make her feel good when she goes through emotional mood swings, he is the one who is ordered to die for his family, ok? Is it too much to ask that you always look good for him? To fulfill his needs? Why in the world would he even marry you anyways if it is not to fulfill his sexual desires in halal way? Sure, to build family, etc, but priority 1st is to avoid him doing haraam. How many stories do you read where man masturbate, watch porn, etc? Why do you think that is a pandemic world wide? Because we make marriage too difficult and too not appealing for a man and the wife denies him sexual intimacy, naturally this is going to lead to haraam and then blame the man for not been able to control himself.



    And you got your reward for it. So stop complaining. You have full custody of the child (when divorce breaks), you have paradise underneath the feet of the mother, and you have right to be treated three times more than a father. Don't forget, this world is a prison and hardship for Muslims and paradise for non-Muslim. Every pain and suffering you get from child birthing to delivering to parenting your elevated higher in paradise and get rewarded for it and your sins are removed. Something no man have this privilege's to get. Yet your ungratefulness and ingratitude and complaining is repulsive at best.



    Then you die a shaheed. Stop complaining and celebrate. Every Muslim wants to die shaheed. What better honor to die delivering a child and end up shaheed like a man dying for the cause of Allah!



    You should be proud of it. It is an honor. Much like men get bride getting scarred and deformed in battle and war, you should be proud getting deformed and scarred delivering a child. That scar is a gift, a trophy from Allah. You show again ungratefulness. I petty any man marrying you with such attitude.



    You have a problem with Allah's decree? How dare you have the audacity in objecting with Allah's command. Yet you call yourself a Muslim? Remember, there are rules to having multiple wives and few man are able to exercise it. But you have the nerve, the gall to object in the command of Allah (and in Ramadaan too). Who do you think you are? Listen up men, women like her should be avoided until she mature up and grow up. You sound like a little girl who have not passed age seven yet.




    That is because those societies are astray far from Islam not because of Islam. Learn your deen before you speak. Everything coming out of your mouth is from sheer ignorance.

    I am not even going to bother with the rest of mummbling...I need to take a shower after reading your reply.



    Aoa.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Let us put it this way, the nature of a man and you can observe it with non-Muslim men who don't believe in Allah and whose this world is his paradise, he doesn't want to get married anyways. Why would he marry to a woman who value depreciate as each day passes, where she gets fat, where she loses interest sexually to her partner, especially when she have children, who cut her hair short and who bad mouth her man everyday nonstop, nagging and belittling him? He better get new model each day. I am talking about non-Muslim man who live through carnal desires. To him, marriage holds zero benefit. Let us switch to here, in Islam he is shackled by his legs to take care of an adult person, to pamper her, to make her feel good when she goes through emotional mood swings, he is the one who is ordered to die for his family, ok? Is it too much to ask that you always look good for him? To fulfill his needs? Why in the world would he even marry you anyways if it is not to fulfill his sexual desires in halal way? Sure, to build family, etc, but priority 1st is to avoid him doing haraam. How many stories do you read where man masturbate, watch porn, etc? Why do you think that is a pandemic world wide? Because we make marriage too difficult and too not appealing for a man and the wife denies him sexual intimacy, naturally this is going to lead to haraam and then blame the man for not been able to control himself.



    And you got your reward for it. So stop complaining. You have full custody of the child (when divorce breaks), you have paradise underneath the feet of the mother, and you have right to be treated three times more than a father. Don't forget, this world is a prison and hardship for Muslims and paradise for non-Muslim. Every pain and suffering you get from child birthing to delivering to parenting your elevated higher in paradise and get rewarded for it and your sins are removed. Something no man have this privilege's to get. Yet your ungratefulness and ingratitude and complaining is repulsive at best.



    Then you die a shaheed. Stop complaining and celebrate. Every Muslim wants to die shaheed. What better honor to die delivering a child and end up shaheed like a man dying for the cause of Allah!



    You should be proud of it. It is an honor. Much like men get bride getting scarred and deformed in battle and war, you should be proud getting deformed and scarred delivering a child. That scar is a gift, a trophy from Allah. You show again ungratefulness. I petty any man marrying you with such attitude.



    You have a problem with Allah's decree? How dare you have the audacity in objecting with Allah's command. Yet you call yourself a Muslim? Remember, there are rules to having multiple wives and few man are able to exercise it. But you have the nerve, the gall to object in the command of Allah (and in Ramadaan too). Who do you think you are? Listen up men, women like her should be avoided until she mature up and grow up. You sound like a little girl who have not passed age seven yet.




    That is because those societies are astray far from Islam not because of Islam. Learn your deen before you speak. Everything coming out of your mouth is from sheer ignorance.

    I am not even going to bother with the rest of mummbling...I need to take a shower after reading your reply.

    And oh personal attacks of my maturity etc wont get u extra marks. Imagine if the Prophet or his companions talked to the nonmuslims like that.. Funny. Eh!

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    Sister, you have way bigger issue here than the forced marriage. You really need to repent, sincerely, and do istigfar. Then get this negative ideas about Allah and Islam immediately out of your mind, ASAP. After that, try to get closer to Allah by doing good deeds, praying a lot and learn about this great deen. Maybe you should not get married at all until you know who you are first, and know your creator better. You are unfit as a wife and a mother period until you do that. As for your parents forcing you, you seem to be able to bark and throw grenades behind a keyboard, maybe you should use this tongue of yours and get shieks and Islamic scholar to help you with your problem. Here in this forum no one can help you. Let me tell you this sister, there are more people coming to Islam than leaving it.

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead View Post
    Sister, you have way bigger issue here than the forced marriage. You really need to repent, sincerely, and do istigfar. Then get this negative ideas about Allah and Islam immediately out of your mind, ASAP. After that, try to get closer to Allah by doing good deeds, praying a lot and learn about this great deen. Maybe you should not get married at all until you know who you are first, and know your creator better. You are unfit as a wife and a mother period until you do that. As for your parents forcing you, you seem to be able to bark and throw grenades behind a keyboard, maybe you should use this tongue of yours and get shieks and Islamic scholar to help you with your problem. Here in this forum no one can help you. Let me tell you this sister, there are more people coming to Islam than leaving it.

    Aoa. Calling me a sister.. Then does that mean u are barking as well? Makes me wonder whether the prophet also used such a language I guess u should be the first to repent because quran clrealy forbids a muslim from using such kind of language but typical muslim male.. When out of argument resort to personal attacks. Didn abu lahb did that.. Personally attacked the Prophet after the death of the latter's son.. Sox either u are from the people of quraish, or u are the abdallah bin oabye.. Father of the munafiqeen. Pretending to be a pious Muslim but resorting to personal attacks and name calling.. Bravo! I am sure your children will soar to the sky.

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    Re: Unhappy with a marriage proposal!

    And more people coming to Islam than leaving it! Iam sure no one enteree the folds of Islam because someone used as disgusting of a language as u.

    So before u start barking again, go study the islam I have the answer to everyone of the question I raised. I've taught nonmuslims about the beauty of Islam. Just because I complained doesnt mean u get to judge me. Again, does islam allow judgin others? You need a better islamic teacher.


    And u can't deny islam does not favor women the way he favors men.. I can quote quranic verse as well which explicitly says that.


    Now don't bother responding.. U are an ignorant. With half the knowledge of Islam.


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