Why the 350-million human history theory should be the default theory logically

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The Statements I made here is not against Islam in fact the Hadith itself provides us indirectly with Adam's approx timeline because the Prophet mentioned his size and as you may know we have the right necessary knowlegde to locate him approximately using the size the prophet has provided us. This is not against Islam otherwise the prophet wouldn't have provided us with his actual size.

Let me give you some examples of two famous tourist sites in Indonesia and South Africa respectively..

This footprint is a famous tourist destination in Indonesia and this footprint is 6-meter long.



And here is another one from South Africa and this one is 1.3M long and estimated to be around 100-million years old


Both these two humans roamed the earth in different timelines by strictly following the size we can locate both their approx timelines? The larger one with the 6m footprint was from the earlier generations and much older approx around 350mya and his height would be around 27-30m where as the one with the 1.3m footprint would be around 7M tall and around 100 mya ago.

You have to realize that a person who stands 27-30m tall can't exist 7000 or 10000 years ago it's physically impossible because they would die immediately if placed in our current gravity and oxygen levels would be to low for them. Their bones will break due to the pressure if they attempt to stand and would not be able to stand and die immediately. In order for them to thrive they have to be in the right timezone for them where the gravity is much lower and the oxygen levels is higher and the same with the dinosaurs it's physically impossible for them to exist in our current gravity levels. The Gravity has been increasing due to the earth's expansion which means the earth was much smaller hence why it was possible for both these large animals and ancient humans to walk and roam the earth. The gravity was increasing which is why we have been decreasing in size

format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit

We talked about this brother mountain.

The whole story is full of inconsistencies, totally fabricated by someone who doesn't even understand logic nor science, Therefore totally illogical, assumptions over assumptions and lies.

If you are looking for a fairytale or a bedtime story, then go ahead.
If you are however looking for the truth, then this topic is not worth checking out.

Big talk from a guy who believes in Evolution theory that we were monkey's once upon a time...

I have seen you get completely angered by my topics without reason because I rustled your own false believes. You believe in that garbage they feed you as gospel truth.. I am not gonna entertain a further debate with you but others who are intellectually capable.

The details it contains is to complicated for your mind to comprehend to many formalities and statistics.. Stay away from this thread.. It will be helpful to others with the mental capacity to grasp the formalities and stats

format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit

Relax dude...i am not interested in a yes no discussion with you. However if you flood İB with nonsense it is my duty as a fellow muslim to shed light into the darkness by providing facts. You cannot block me from this thread for doing that.

Now...with "anger" you surely mean well placed arguments backed up with logic, facts and even formulas and mathematical examples why your gravity theory is just a fairy tale.

For the ones interested...here is the link again:
The Ancient peoples timeline and the first humans who walked the earth - Timeline

Again...for the gravity to increase...either Earths mass must increase drastically...or Earths volume must decrease drastically....both pretty much the opposite of your claim.

Another member here already provided evidence that the photos about giants were fake.

After having said this...İ wont disturb your thread anymore...İ am sure the readers will see the truth on their own.

You are not what you say you are.. You clearly stated that you believe in evolution that eliminates you pretty much..

By the way aside from my personal opinion whatever I said is in line with what the prophet said.. He provided Adam's height and that mankind decreased ever since to our current size.... I just provided the layman with why and how that occured and as for the science part your just a layman and I won't entertain that debate with you anymore..

So technically all I did is help the source out.... Because 50% of it was already delivered by the prophet himself and I only gave it an addresse..

But I know what really rustled you bro.. It is the fact that this shatteres evolution theory and you are clearly a fan of that.. You are a person with an agenda and I rarely see you post elsewhere except in highly influential threads that chellegnes a certain mindset..

You seek public perception and to confuse them.. I don't know who you are but you are clearly someone with an agenda and anyone with half a brain can see it

format_quote Originally Posted by Mountains

You are not what you say you are.. You clearly stated that you believe in evolution that eliminates you pretty much..

By the way aside from my personal opinion whatever I said is in line with what the prophet said.. He provided Adam's height and that mankind decreased ever since to our current size.... I just provided the layman with why and how that occured and as for the science part your just a layman and I won't entertain that debate with you anymore..

So technically all I did is help the source out.... Because 50% of it was already delivered by the prophet himself and I only gave it an addresse..

But I know what really rustled you bro.. It is the fact that this shatteres evolution theory and you are clearly a fan of that.. You are a person with an agenda and I rarely see you post elsewhere except in highly influential threads that chellegnes a certain mindset..

You seek public perception and to confuse them.. I don't know who you are but you are clearly someone with an agenda and anyone with half a brain can see it

İ am just an electrical engineer. İ do not have much knowledge. However, i know how to use my logic and i know how to filter out the good from the wrong.

Furthermore, İ trust science...but İ do not see science as a holy grail.
Science is not the absolute truth....it is always an approximation of the truth.
İt is just a tool for us humans to umderstand the reality we live in.

İ believe that science is parallel to İslam. İt must be parallel because if Allah created this Earth and all the laws of nature...and science is based on our observations of Allahs creation...it cannot contradict each other.

İ have never said "İ believe in science" or "İ believe in evolution"...what İ did say is that is the best explanation we have so far...again...i never said it is absolute true.
There are a lot of gaps that need to be filled...
But even İF it turns out to be true...that still does not mean that Allah does not exist.

İ have no benefit of evolution theory to be true or false...my trust in science will not shatter if evolution turns out to be false. İt only means we found new evidence...that evolution theory was silly at that time...we learned from it and we moved on.

The truth is somewhere in the middle and only Allah knows the truth...
That is who İ am...just a normal Muslim who trusts science but believes in İslaam.

format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit

İ am just an electrical engineer. İ do not have much knowledge. However, i know how to use my logic and i know how to filter out the good from the wrong.

Furthermore, İ trust science...but İ do not see science as a holy grail.
Science is not the absolute truth....it is always an approximation of the truth.
İt is just a tool for us humans to umderstand the reality we live in.

İ believe that science is parallel to İslam. İt must be parallel because if Allah created this Earth and all the laws of nature...and science is based on our observations of Allahs creation...it cannot contradict each other.

İ have never said "İ believe in science" or "İ believe in evolution"...what İ did say is that is the best explanation we have so far...again...i never said it is absolute true.
There are a lot of gaps that need to be filled...
But even İF it turns out to be true...that still does not mean that Allah does not exist.

İ have no benefit of evolution theory to be true or false...my trust in science will not shatter if evolution turns out to be false. İt only means we found new evidence...that evolution theory was silly at that time...we learned from it and we moved on.

The truth is somewhere in the middle and only Allah knows the truth...
That is who İ am...just a normal Muslim who trusts science but believes in İslaam.

Alhamdullah you are Muslim brother... Saying it is the best we have was haram. The evils that come with evolution is absolutely great because Allah says that he has ''Honored'' MANKIND and the angels bowed down to Adam and it goes against the special honor Allah has granted to mankind and hence why the secret societies who rule the world push that on people from top to bottom in all schools and universities.

The only knowledge out there is independent knowledge today as everything is watered down for a purpose.

height similar to Adam's size will also be the size of mankind in paradise. The prophet himself provided that and also that mankind has been decreasing ever since. Allah says in the quran that he has created everything in right measure and calculated everything and no error happens in his calculation he wouldn't place Adam in a timeline that is not suitable for his size. You can ask any scientist, university teacher and any learn person about this matter? How was it possible for the dinosaurs to walk earth? It is physically impossible for them to walk earth.

according to the evolution theory linked world of pangea because it has same gravity as ours.. major gigantic contradiction and it is so big it dissolves both theories entirely subhanallah.

Also Pangea is not original if you look at it's map it looks like a joke where as if you look at the world map today by default you will realize that South America fits into Africa like a puzzle and you don't even need to be math genuis to see that one it is so easy and stares you in the eyes. The earth fits into each other like a puzzle if you decrease it's size. Another factor you can research is why the ocean floor is younger than the original land.. The increase is only happening in the ocean floor that is why? So many contradiction they can't prove but what they did is create a massive build with only contradiction that dissolves each other...

The only way............ A dinosaur could have walked on earth is ONE WAY? which is lower gravity and lower gravity can't occur unless the earth is smaller than currently form. This is how these animals were able to be so huge and function without dying immediately.... They existed in the right measured timline and balanced world for their respective size. Each dinosaur grazed the trees and drank the rivers waters during a suitable timeline for it's existence.

The truth of the matter is that the mainstream world is not ready for true science because wide scale brain washing has been taking place for the last 2 centuries none-stop and aggressive to the point the truth becomes near fiction which means they are not ready except few intellectuals who are ahead of their time and what do I mean by ahead of their time?

A group of people with a very nasty agenda has been brain-washing mankind for the last 2-centuries without chellenge and I can go in depth with why and how they control all major institutions etc etc. The point is to confuse mankind and by doing that is fictionalizing the truth. Did they succeed to some extent? I would say they did pull it off because they managed to bewitch the masses at large.

Hence why the mainstream world is not ready for this type of knowledge but Insha-allah they will once the Caliphate re-emerges on earth and gains world hegemony as the prophet has predicted it will come to pass and they will show mankind the truth in two methods by unearthing all the large skeletons putting them on display for everyone to see and via the DNA in the human genome we have also the necessary evidence within ourselves to pinpoint the amount of forefathers each person has and each person has about 3 billion pairs which somehow fits into the timeline and it can further pin-point with more precision but mankind is not ready now due to heavy censorship.

Just like what Isa Banu Maryam told banu Israel before he was lifted he said I must go now so that Ahmed can come because you can not bear the message now but once he comes he will reveal the truth. This is the same thing with the Caliphate they will free humanity from an intellectual point of view not only from self-degradation and self-harm.

''Indeed Falsehood is by nature bound to perish''

Energy can be transformed into Mass and vice versa. The Sun is a giant energy and it constantly gives us alot of energy.. No comets is needed to increase mass. All the evidence suggest an increase in mass and earth's expansion. As mentioned previously dinosaurs wouldn't have been possible and you can go ask this question to all intellectuals in the world how can dinasaurs be realistic in our current gravity is ''IMPOSSIBLE'' not one single educated person would flat out say they could be possible in this current gravity.

I don't believe in Hollow earth and never talked about it on here just the expanding earth which is a ground reality in our world not a theory. The secret socieity members shade all the informations regarding this knowledge and the true human history of mankind..

Example if you go to any random person on the streets and tell them flat out did you know that your ancestors walked earth for around 350-million Years they will be stunned and won't believe it at all.. The question is how did this happen? The answer is consistent brain-washing for the last 2 centuries and something. Truth becomes fiction and fiction becomes truth.. This is also the signs of Qiyama where people would agree on a lie.

But Sub-hanallah falsehood is alsways bound to vanish and it is already cracking down and will eventually come down crushing because it has no fundation even for the heavily brain-washed masses will re-discover of our true history amd ancestors

'Einstein Was Right: You Can Turn Energy Into Matter'

* But you already know that so I don't understand how you can say ''but no'' and the same time who are trying to fool here? Plus the Sun is bigger than any nuclear reactor and releases much more energy.

*I also see you had no answer on how large creatures like dinosaurs could have been possible on the fanciful Pangea aka our current gravity? You kinda of chose to give up on that and try to come up with something saying Energy can't be turned into mass which is BS.. Nobody can come up with a botched theory saying Dinosaures where possible to exist on our current gravity.. It is impossible and ZERO PERCENT chance..

* Let me give you an example how do you think Jinns (Which are made of energy) transform into matter hence taking human form and shape or even into small animals?

*Another thing for you to ponder over is that the Prophet(sa) himself said Adam stood 27-30m plus his life-span was 1000 years... I believe in him and also from science point of view because everything he said and science don't contradict each other.

*How will you explain over 10000s of recorded accounts on American local news of large skeletons thru out 1800s and 1900s sold to smithsonian but never heard of again or seen? If it was one count we could have said it is a fluke but not over 10000s accounts

* Why is the ocean floor younger than the rest of the earth? You can't explain this either

* Why does Africa and South America fit into each other like a puzzle you can't either explain this

Some of the powerful Jinns can shape shift but alas all this knowlegde is to heavy for you and the majority of the people in this current age.. After 2 centuries of brainwashing is hard to undo that and i am mindful of this.

But the few capable whom Allah has blessed will get this cross without issues but as for the common folks they are not ready for this because it is heavy.. Men has been deluded to a point of no return about their past and what initially is forced upon them is an insult..

The evolution theory in itself is a very slick insult done by none other than you know who? The one who was among Adam and Hawa and who saw them in real life.. That much is easy to figure and understand... Btw who benefits from that and who could force such an insult down mankind's throat.. There is really only one culprit

Greetings and peace be with you Umit,

format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit

Why would I be interested in fooling you? what is my gain? Energy can "act" like matter as in, it can weigh something, it doesn't actually turn into matter. if E = M x C2 means that energy can turn into mass, then:
F = M x A means that force can also be turned into matter
P = F / A means pressure can be tunred into force
S = V x t means distance can be turned into speed
and so on.
Does that sound logical? what is your argument about that?

I think the most important question to ask is, How could the universe come into existence purely by natural causes and without God?

When the burden of proof is placed on the atheist; then science has no answers, only waffle.

Blessings
Eric

format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H

Greetings and peace be with you Umit,



I think the most important question to ask is, How could the universe come into existence purely by natural causes and without God?

When the burden of proof is placed on the atheist; then science has no answers, only waffle.

Blessings
Eric

hi Eric, it’s been a while. Have you read “the divine reality” by Hamza Andreas Tzortzis?

No offence brother @Mountain,

threads like this need a slap down to reality. I agree with some of what you say but you lose me with most of the other nonsense. And before you think about claiming I should research it before knocking it, believe me - your juvenile attempt at explanation is hardly worth the salt - I could make a better case than you have attempted at this but I’ll end with this statement, it’s nonsense! So that’s why I don’t even bother.

It does seem that you have a victim mentality and love to scream conspiracy at every turn. Sure, conspiracies do exist but the truth is, they’re a lot darker than you can imagine.

Stick to the basics.

format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar

No offence brother @Mountain,

threads like this need a slap down to reality. I agree with some of what you say but you lose me with most of the other nonsense. And before you think about claiming I should research it before knocking it, believe me - your juvenile attempt at explanation is hardly worth the salt - I could make a better case than you have attempted at this but I’ll end with this statement, it’s nonsense! So that’s why I don’t even bother.

It does seem that you have a victim mentality and love to scream conspiracy at every turn. Sure, conspiracies do exist but the truth is, they’re a lot darker than you can imagine.

Stick to the basics.

I am hardly surprised by this statement and as I said earlier the mainstream is not ready for this.

But just to clarify for you that this is hard facts I want you to ponder over few points..

1. Why would the Prophet lie about Adams height? There is no reasons for that and that man has never lied in his life.

2. How can a human that stands 30m tall roam the earth? Once you search the answer to that question scientifically you will find your answer..

3. Why has there occured over 100.000 of counts of giant-skeletons popping up thru out the world and is that number not to significiant to be hoax? and why are Secret society link organistations going great length to hide it.

4. The secret societies part is no conspiracy they are as real as they come.. I have even meet some people who think Iblees doesn't exist and that his only a metaphor how can you even talk to these people intellectually.. It is a dead-end. Iblees is as real as you are and so is his army of shayteens. They are not fiction. The Secret societies are men who has joined their ranks and sold themselves to gain worldly material and they serve Iblees who by the way is alive and among the living somewhere in the east.

5. Ask yourself this question how did the dinosaurs walk earth with that huge size? How was that possible look at it from scientifical POV.

6. If you take a look at the world map you will understand that it fits together like a puzzle and even a child can see that Africa and South America fit together and the only reason they can do that is if you decrease the size which means the size has increased solely from the ocean floor.

Try to search into this 6 points and hopefully you will find your answer and if you are not well versed in this just let it slide. The information and knowledge itself will not be made public to the mainstream until 30-50 years from now.. There is half-century to go and if you are alive at that time you should bump this thread if it even can be bumped and if this website even exists.. Once the world order changes the supression on that knowledge will vanish with the old world order and the new one will release the information to the mainstream. You will be seeing giant human skeletons in muesums instead of dinosaurs during that time.. Their DNA will be made official and the DNA coding will also be made public revealing the remianing last secrets of man's origins