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    I stopped doing dua (OP)


    Aoa. Long time since we've talked. After ramadan my heart became weird.. I did another dua and the result ws exact opp. So I decided to stop doing dua altogether. I do pray.. Fajar I have missed for more than a month now, so have I missed tahajjud. But I don't have unrealistic hopes anymore. I do my duty as a muslim. Pray give sadqah etc but dua I have stopped relying on. And I have been much happier. I have accepted reality. Its just my thought. If anyone is upset with their duas not Manifesting perhaps it's time to move on

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    Re: I stopped doing dua

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    Greetings and peace be with you iammuslim98;
    Allah wont accept dua bcuz there was a scjolar on youtube who sd bad deeds stop ur duas from being answered.
    Study and reflect on the 99 names of Allah. His first two names are to do with being merciful. Allah can only be merciful to those who need mercy shown to them.

    Twice it mentions that Allah is the forgiver; Allah can only forgive those who need forgiving.

    Twice it mentions that Allah is the pardoner; Allah can only pardon those who need pardoning.

    I doubt there are many people on this Earth today who deserve salvation; because they are righteous in the eyes of Allah.

    Whatever the scholar said on youtube, keep making dues; keep repenting continue with your struggle to do the will of Allah. Make dua for Allah to help you with the wisdom and the strength to do his will. Never give up hope in Allah; life is a constant struggle until the day we die. I still struggle at the age of 72.

    May Allah bless you with the wisdom and the strength to do his will.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you iammuslim98;


    Study and reflect on the 99 names of Allah. His first two names are to do with being merciful. Allah can only be merciful to those who need mercy shown to them.

    Twice it mentions that Allah is the forgiver; Allah can only forgive those who need forgiving.

    Twice it mentions that Allah is the pardoner; Allah can only pardon those who need pardoning.

    I doubt there are many people on this Earth today who deserve salvation; because they are righteous in the eyes of Allah.

    Whatever the scholar said on youtube, keep making dues; keep repenting continue with your struggle to do the will of Allah. Make dua for Allah to help you with the wisdom and the strength to do his will. Never give up hope in Allah; life is a constant struggle until the day we die. I still struggle at the age of 72.

    May Allah bless you with the wisdom and the strength to do his will.
    Eric

    Aoa. Mashallah. In ur 72 yrs of life, have u seeen ur duas gst answered? Have u seen miracles or the impossible turn into possible by the will of Allah??
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    Greetings and peace be with you iammuslim98;

    In ur 72 yrs of life, have u seeen ur duas gst answered? Have u seen miracles or the impossible turn into possible by the will of Allah??
    Many times - But.

    The times that duas seem to get answered is when you pray for the wisdom, strength and the peace to do the will of Allah. Often this is helping someone else in some way.

    In times of troubles; I have found that to pray for the wisdom, strength and the peace to endure the trials is helpful. Rather than to pray for the troubles to go away.

    To give thanks in bad times as well as good times is to recognise all the good gifts we receive from Allah.

    Life is a struggle always one day at a time. Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a great mystery, Lord grant me the peace and serenity to live this day and every day knowing that you hold me in the palm of your hand.

    May Allah bless you on your journey through life.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you iammuslim98;



    Many times - But.

    The times that duas seem to get answered is when you pray for the wisdom, strength and the peace to do the will of Allah. Often this is helping someone else in some way.

    In times of troubles; I have found that to pray for the wisdom, strength and the peace to endure the trials is helpful. Rather than to pray for the troubles to go away.

    To give thanks in bad times as well as good times is to recognise all the good gifts we receive from Allah.

    Life is a struggle always one day at a time. Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a great mystery, Lord grant me the peace and serenity to live this day and every day knowing that you hold me in the palm of your hand.

    May Allah bless you on your journey through life.
    Eric

    Aoa so we should just make abstract duas..not tangible or real ones.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    Aoa brother. I am not asking for miracles like the bani isra el. Forme even breathing is a miracle from Allah. What I am asking for is a miniscule thing for Allah, but no less than a miracle. If we can ask for anything and everything brother, then asking for such a miracle isn't bad? Don't u believe so!? And I don't pray five times a day not anymore.. I wakeup lay in bed and go back to sleep at fajr. Despite my best efforts to wakeup I fail miserably
    I was not trying to say that you are like Banu Israel. I am sorry for making it sound like that. Of course you can ask from Allah anything even if it is considered a miracle as long as it is not Haram. If you are hoping from Allah that He assists you even when things seem impossible then that is good. But how will Allah's assistance come if we don't seek it?

    "O you who have believed, seek help through patience and prayer. Indeed, Allah is with the patient." (al-Baqarah: 286)

    Also, I would strongly advise against making a miracle some kind of condition for you to get back on the straight path. You have to put forth the effort, then Allah will help you in miraculous ways, but if you give up and give in to hopelessness and despair, then Allah's Help will not be as forthcoming.

    "I am as my servant thinks I am..." (Bukhari)

    "O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with sins nearly as great as the earth and were you then to face Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you forgiveness nearly as great at it." (at-Tirmidhi)

    It doesn't matter what was done in the past if we seek forgiveness, make Tawbah and try again:


    "A servant [of Allah's] committed a sin and said: O Allah, forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for them. Then he sinned again and said: O Lord, forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for them. Then he sinned again and said: O Lord, forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for sins. Do what you wish, for I have forgiven you. (Muslim and Bukhari).

    I honestly think that, as long as people don't go through depression, they won't understand. Our state of mind... the void, lack of mental energy...
    I've had my own fair share of depression and feeling hopeless. I know enough about it to know that if you give in to it it only gets worse. We have to be patient and put our hopes in Allah even when it seems hopeless and to ignore/fight back against the waswas of shaitan.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    Sometimes I feel what you feel, I won't give up.. However I am advised to give up on asking for stuff, it may not be Allah swt will, the sooner you detach from certain desires the sooner it will stop consuming you.
    I am upset about how certain things turned our for me and the great injustices in this world infuriates me, the stuff that happens to me and the stuff that happens around the world..

    People see me pray in the Masjid, long prayers, it has been a daily routine for some time. People ask me if I'm ok, one guy said don't worry, didn't ask me what's wrong.. Just said "what is supposed to happen.... Will happen...." qadr of Allah swt... Leave it up to him....

    Not having faith or losing faith in the ultimate power which governs our very existence today means our imaan needs a recharge....

    My heart cries every prayer...
    Duas are being answered, rewards and answers accumilating.... For the day of reckoning.... which there will be.

    Keep praying for your losses, keep praying for solutions, keep praying for miracles... Keep the faith...

    Do not get attached to this world too much.... You don't know what's round the corner..

    Try to do good, try to be good... Even if fellow humans have failed you, other humans will still need your help.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    Salam!

    I've been away for some time, sorry...

    There's one catchy thing about duas being answered or not... I've read and heard and experienced this a lot - If you care too much about this dua, it probably wont manifest as long as that thing is more important to you than Allah's priorities. As soon as you attach to what Allah wants, you'll receive all you want.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    [/B]Also, I would strongly advise against making a miracle some kind of condition for you to get back on the straight path. You have to put forth the effort, then Allah will help you in miraculous ways, but if you give up and give in to hopelessness and despair, then Allah's Help will not be as forthcoming

    Aoa brother, i didnt understand this part. Can u please explqin a little bit

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Imraan View Post
    Sometimes I feel what you feel, I won't give up.. However I am advised to give up on asking for stuff, it may not be Allah swt will, the sooner you detach from certain desires the sooner it will stop consuming you.
    I am upset about how certain things turned our for me and the great injustices in this world infuriates me, the stuff that happens to me and the stuff that happens around the world..

    People see me pray in the Masjid, long prayers, it has been a daily routine for some time. People ask me if I'm ok, one guy said don't worry, didn't ask me what's wrong.. Just said "what is supposed to happen.... Will happen...." qadr of Allah swt... Leave it up to him....

    Not having faith or losing faith in the ultimate power which governs our very existence today means our imaan needs a recharge....

    My heart cries every prayer...
    Duas are being answered, rewards and answers accumilating.... For the day of reckoning.... which there will be.

    Keep praying for your losses, keep praying for solutions, keep praying for miracles... Keep the faith...

    Do not get attached to this world too much.... You don't know what's round the corner..

    Try to do good, try to be good... Even if fellow humans have failed you, other humans will still need your help.
    Aoa brother, there is only so much pain that a heart can endure.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Aoa. The problem is i lost a lot of good opportunutis bcuz of my depression .and this is the regret i will carry all my life..a weight on my heart.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    [/B]Also, I would strongly advise against making a miracle some kind of condition for you to get back on the straight path. You have to put forth the effort, then Allah will help you in miraculous ways, but if you give up and give in to hopelessness and despair, then Allah's Help will not be as forthcoming

    Aoa brother, i didnt understand this part. Can u please explqin a little bit

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    Aoa brother, there is only so much pain that a heart can endure.

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    Aoa. The problem is i lost a lot of good opportunutis bcuz of my depression .and this is the regret i will carry all my life..a weight on my heart.
    This all means you need dua from fellow Muslims... you are our trial! I understand depression and I know how hard can it be.

    So, everyone, let's just make loads of duas for our sister!
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    format_quote Originally Posted by Flos View Post
    This all means you need dua from fellow Muslims... you are our trial! I understand depression and I know how hard can it be.

    So, everyone, let's just make loads of duas for our sister!
    Aoa. I will forever be indebted to u ffor this act of kindness
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    In the meanwhile, I'm done with Duas& staying on Islam till I get relief.I have tried everything just everything you name it and I have done that.

    I'm hopeless,it's been torture of 18 years of every second torture in mind soul body destruction of health my education my career my respect
    beauty personality, Relationships.


    EDIT:'m hopeful for great relief
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    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post
    In the meanwhile, I'm done with Duas& staying on Islam till I get relief.I have tried everything just everything you name it and I have done that.

    I'm hopeless,it's been torture of 18 years of every second torture in mind soul body destruction of health my education my career my respect
    beauty personality, relationships.

    Allah tortured me physically emotionally mentally psychologically.Top on that my family destroying my health with heavy injections and strong medication for whichever & whatever illness whereas it's that azaab of God that I suffer from & paranormal stuff,that science has no answer.And it's what causes me to shout at my mom (ofc wrong)but my physical health & mental health is getting outta control.Since 17 years these medicine.Aah...blame the victim always.

    I'm tired,I'm exhausted and I paid Him good big deeds to save me from apostasy& now what's happening is making me feel so much low of God,auzobillah


    Phew,why I landed on earth
    Sorry to say this...but the "azaab" you have experienced in those 17 short years is absoluyely nothing with the azaab you have earned for writing this post.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    Sorry to say this...but the "azaab" you have experienced in those 17 short years is absoluyely nothing with the azaab you have earned for writing this post.
    And who are you to say that and decide?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post
    In the meanwhile, I'm done with Duas& staying on Islam till I get relief.I have tried everything just everything you name it and I have done that.

    I'm hopeless,it's been torture of 18 years of every second torture in mind soul body destruction of health my education my career my respect
    beauty personality, relationships.

    Allah tortured me physically emotionally mentally psychologically.Top on that my family destroying my health with heavy injections and strong medication for whichever & whatever illness whereas it's that azaab of God that I suffer from & paranormal stuff,that science has no answer.And it's what causes me to shout at my mom (ofc wrong)but my physical health & mental health is getting outta control.Since 17 years these medicine.Aah...blame the victim always.

    I'm tired,I'm exhausted and I paid Him good big deeds to save me from apostasy& now what's happening is making me feel so much low of God,auzobillah


    Phew,why I landed on earth
    Oh sister... I'm so sorry to ready what have you been through all these years May Allah bring you end of it forever and give you only very happy time here and in Hearafter.

    I'll try to talk to you soon in private. Maybe together we might find a way out
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    @Umit

    I request you to expand your knowledge & experience.

    Read on Duhayma fitan & what's happening with muslims around the world.

    You know nothing about my life& that's why it doesn't matter what you or next IB says.

    The azaab that I suffered all my life made me write my above post as I'm just a human& I feel pain.

    It would be far much better to use a moderate tone on forums when you actually find people seem upto Deen with huge issues.

    Islamic texts gives excuses to people who speaks under torture of they were good earlier.

    I'm going through Meltdown & repelling me away from Deen won't be a good idea.No one will benefit.

    JazakAllah hu khayr Sister Floss.Just the kindness & duas I need.May ALLAH Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala gift you all that you want& accept all your Duas for all Muslims, Aameen.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    format_quote Originally Posted by Flos View Post
    And who are you to say that and decide?
    DID I decide anything? And if so...what exactly?
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post
    @Umit

    I request you to expand your knowledge & experience.
    I never claimed I have a lot of knowledge & experience...but in this case...what exactly did you find lacking in my knowledge & experience?

    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post

    Read on Duhayma fitan & what's happening with muslims around the world.

    You know nothing about my life& that's why it doesn't matter what you or next IB says.
    I know nothing about your life...you can explain and we can discuss about it if you want.
    However you still have not right to insult islam and Allah every single time. I am sorry you are suffering that much, but I wont allow you to insult my God...you have no right there.

    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post

    The azaab that I suffered all my life made me write my above post as I'm just a human& I feel pain.
    You are not the only one and your suffering is not the greatest in the world...and on top of that...whatever you've been through, you have no right to insult my God.
    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post

    It would be far much better to use a moderate tone on forums when you actually find people seem upto Deen with huge issues.
    My tone is pretty moderate. what exactly was not moderate in my post? The thing is, as soon as people dare to criticise you in any way, you acuse them for being not moderate lacking empathy etc.
    however the only thing I pointed out is that what you wrote is wrong and you should watch your language...you are the one who should be moderate.

    And I reminded you that this post you wrote is very very wrong and you (probably) earned much severe azaab in thehereafter than you've been through in your whole life.

    And instead of taking a lesson from that, you are just attacking me.

    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post

    Islamic texts gives excuses to people who speaks under torture of they were good earlier.

    I'm going through Meltdown & repelling me away from Deen won't be a good idea.No one will benefit.
    About speaking under torture does not apply in this situation.
    İt applies to situations where people are threatened with death or torture if they dont do or say as been told. Nobody is threatening you to do or say anything. You are completely free.

    Would it be better for you if I agreed with you saying "yeah, you are right...Allah shouldn't have done that to you...it was very wrong of Him...He made a mistake there"?
    Would that attract you back to Islaam then?

    And besides, no one is repelling you away from Islaam...We have been trying to explain to you how it all works with dua etc...you seem to just not understand...it is you who is repelling yourself from deen...not me. you just refuse to understand reality and how everything works. stop accusing me for being rude when I am just doing my duty as a fellow muslim and reminding you about your mistake and how bad it is.

    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post

    JazakAllah hu khayr Sister Floss.Just the kindness & duas I need.May ALLAH Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala gift you all that you want& accept all your Duas for all Muslims, Aameen.
    Ameen
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins.1Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful." And return [in repentance] to your Lord and submit to Him before the punishment comes upon you; then you will not be helped. And follow the best of what was revealed to you from your Lord [i.e., the Qur’ān] before the punishment comes upon you suddenly while you do not perceive, Lest a soul should say, "Oh, [how great is] my regret over what I neglected in regard to Allah and that I was among the mockers." Or [lest] it say, "If only Allah had guided me, I would have been among the righteous." Or [lest] it say when it sees the punishment, "If only I had another turn so I could be among the doers of good."
    (az-Zumar: 53-58)

    Do you know in which context these ayat were revealed? They were revealed in regards to the Muslims in Mecca who left Islam due to the extreme torture they received from the Quraish. The Muslims thought that these people were doomed until these ayat were revealed.

    Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said that one amongst the denizens of Hell who had led a life of ease and plenty amongst the people of the world would be made to dip in Fire only once on the Day of Resurrection and then it would be said to him: O, son of Adam, did you find any comfort, did you happen to get any material blessing? He would say: By Allah, no, my Lord. And then that person from amongst the persons of the world be brought who had led the most miserable life (in the world) from amongst the inmates of Paradise. and he would be made to dip once in Paradise and it would be said to him. O, son of Adam, did you face, any hardship? Or had any distress fallen to your lot? And he would say: By Allah, no, my Lord, never did I face any hardship or experience any distress. (Muslim)

    @SoldierAmatUllah, the suffering you have been going through all of these years is because of shayateen due to sihr. There is currently a massive epidemic going on in the Ummah now which is far worse than coronavirus. The Munafiqeen have amassed in abundance and practicing sihr amongst the Muslims has become so commonplace that it seems every family has some Aunti or Uncle that's engaged in it. Giving up is not an option and is not going to bring any real relief. Giving up simply means giving the reigns to shaitan who will not leave you alone until you are in the worst suffering.

    The only solution is Ruqyah. The problem is the vast majority of Muslims are half-hearted when it comes to Ruqyah which leads to inconsistent effort in striving against the shayateen. This leads to going one step forward, one step back, one step forward, two steps back, etc. Which is extremely draining and frustrating, hence the suffering while getting nowhere for 18 years. We fight shaitan one day and them give him a break the next so he can recuperate, recover and plague us again the next day. This will never work. We have to be constant and consistent in our Ruqyah, Dua, and Quran.

    The bare minimum that should be applied is one Juz of the Quran daily in addition to the Ayat that are specific to Ruqyah: al-Fatiha (7 times), ayat al-Kursiy (3 or 7 times), the last ayat of surah al-Baqarah, The last three surahs of the Quran (3 times each)

    Also, reciting as much of surah al-Baqarah as one can once every three days.

    Of course, before all of this, the five daily prayers on time is absolutely necessary.

    If this is done repeatedly and consistently, then the shayateen will weaken over time (not a long time) and you will be able to finally start healing, recovering and strengthening by Allah's Permission.

    I have tried everything just everything you name it and I have done that.
    You tell me that you have done the above things mentioned consistently for one month during that 18-year period and didn't experience any relief. I am certain that that is not the case.

    Making Dua'/Athkar/and Quran consistently for a day or two is not going to cut it. It is much worse when it comes to Sihr and requires more concerted effort on our part. From this terrible trial comes a lot of khair if we can push though it: struggle, disavowing of/rejecting the shaitan, Calling upon and having Tawakkul in Allah, and perhaps more than anything else: Patience and Steadfastness.

    And of course for every iota of pain comes a great reward from Allah, ash-Shakur.

    For Muslims who are not afflicted with sihr. Be aware that this Fitnah is incredibly/increasingly widespread and one should seek to protect oneself and one's family.

    "O you who have believed, protect yourselves and your families from a Fire whose fuel is people and stones, over which are [appointed] angels, harsh and severe; they do not disobey Allah in what He commands them but do what they are commanded." (at-Tahrim: 6)

    As the saying goes: prevention is better than cure. Boost your defenses with the well-known prescriptions given to us by Allah and His Messenger: Athkar after fajr and asr; athkar before sleeping, while going outside and any athkar that has anything to do with shaitan. More important than all of that is daily recitation of the Quran. I swear by Allah! The shayateen can not compete with the Quran. The Quran literally burns them, causes them pain and can even kill them.

    Keeping shayateen out of your house is one thing, but kicking them out once they have already entered and established themselves requires considerably more effort and requires more powerful medicine.

    When my father passed away, he left behind a widow whom we quickly found out was engaging in this evil filth. All people who engage in practicing Sihr are severely afflicted with Hasad. Thing eat, drink, and breath Hasad. She became extremely hostile to everyone in the whole family and demanded outright that all of my dad's inheritance be given to her. Of course we refused, she cut ties with her children (my brothers and sister) and all of us. She tried to use sihr against me, my wife, my sister, my aunt, and others in my family My sister lives in another part of town. Me and my wife live in a completely different country. My aunt, because of circumstances had no choice but to live right underneath her. All of us suffered from hardships due to sihr except for my Aunt. My aunt is a sweet, old housewife whom, if you didn't know her, would think she was a little naive, but in reality is the wisest in our family.

    In spite of being extremely busy, she would throughout the day and night recite Quran constantly and even had a female shaikah who would review/teach Quran to her. She was constantly engaged in Quran.

    In spite of the fact that there was a witch living right above her, she didn't suffer any ailments. Me, my wife, and my sister on the other hand were more lax and irregular with regards to Quran and as a result suffered much more. Even though we were more lax, I know that we suffered much less than others whom we know who were afflicted with sihr and chose to give up their prayers and reading any Quran. We know a woman who used to be very religious until some neighbors consumed by their own miserable Hasad used sihr to afflict her. Since then, she has stopped praying, reading Quran or doing any thikr. When we met her we encouraged her to pray upon which she looked eager. My wife was with her and told her to do wuthoo. She went to the sink to wash for prayer, when she froze, started shaking and was unable to continue. She broke down and said that she was too afraid as whenever she so much as makes thikr, they (shayateen) cause her great anguish and if she tries to pray they "will burn me".

    The only way shaitan can overpower us is to convince us to give up the Quran. He cuts off your support, lures you out of your fortress/protection so he can lord over you and have control over your affairs. Then things become much harder.

    Shaitan only has as much power over us as we give him. The more we obey Allah, remember Allah, and worship Allah the less influence/control shaitan will have over our actions/decisions. The more we give in, the more control he will have and the more miserable he will make us. he might leave us alone for a little if we give in a bit, but then he will be back for even more demands to make us even more astray later on.

    The solution is not giving up and giving up will not bring any real relief, neither in the long run nor in the short run. It will only give shaitan more power over us who will be able to make our life, our world even darker. @SoldierAmatUllah

    Start a daily, consistent regimen of Quran and try to add more as days go by. Report to us (daily if you wish) and tell us your progress and also if you have had any troubles: slipped off of it for a day, new/more intense disturbing thoughts/more intense ailments/some relief/etc. We will support you (biithnillah), make dua for you, encourage you to push forward and console you when you slip or fail while encouraging you to continue.

    Abu Sa’id al-Khudri reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Satan said: By Your might, O Lord, I will continue to mislead the children of Adam, as long as their souls are in their bodies. The Lord said: By My might and majesty, I will continue to forgive them, as long as they seek My forgiveness.” (Ahmed)

    May Allah continue to send His curses upon the filthy rotten cursed shayateen and help the Muslims in their desperate time of need Ameen.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

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    DID I decide anything? And if so...what exactly?
    Didn't you say this: "but the "azaab" you have experienced in those 17 short years is absoluyely nothing with the azaab you have earned for writing this post."

    You have NO RIGHT to say this! Only, ONLY Allah is The Maliki Yawmidin. You are ONLY his slave, just like everyone else!!!!
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Flos View Post
    Didn't you say this: "but the "azaab" you have experienced in those 17 short years is absoluyely nothing with the azaab you have earned for writing this post."

    You have NO RIGHT to say this! Only, ONLY Allah is The Maliki Yawmidin. You are ONLY his slave, just like everyone else!!!!
    OK...let us work this out a little...
    We all know that Soldier did not earn Credits for writing such a post...
    You cannot tell me in all honousty that she earned blessings by insulting Allah, can you?
    So a very big chance she earned sins for that...how much, only Allah knows...
    And we also know...the smallest of punishments in thehereafter is much more severe than all your sufferings in this life...
    So, it is pretty safe to conclude that she DİD earn more azaab then she suffered so far.
    Besides...i was not playing judge here...İ was only trying to remind her what terrible things she wrote...she should realize that what she thinks about Allah is not something small...they are very serious accusations...you also should make her aware of that instead of arguing with me what İ can and cannot say.
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