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    I stopped doing dua

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    Aoa. Long time since we've talked. After ramadan my heart became weird.. I did another dua and the result ws exact opp. So I decided to stop doing dua altogether. I do pray.. Fajar I have missed for more than a month now, so have I missed tahajjud. But I don't have unrealistic hopes anymore. I do my duty as a muslim. Pray give sadqah etc but dua I have stopped relying on. And I have been much happier. I have accepted reality. Its just my thought. If anyone is upset with their duas not Manifesting perhaps it's time to move on
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    No, I will continue to have faith and keep on making Dua. Even if I never get what I want, I know that Allah will provide me with what I need and give me what is best for me. Giving up on dua means giving up on hope, which is what the Shaytaan did. I don't want to be like him, therefore I will always be hopeful, Inshallah.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    Sister when you stay to Quran only & negate Ahadeeth, things can only worsen.


    Learn about sciences of Ahadeeth & their credibilty InshaAllah
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    format_quote Originally Posted by Avis View Post
    No, I will continue to have faith and keep on making Dua. Even if I never get what I want, I know that Allah will provide me with what I need and give me what is best for me. Giving up on dua means giving up on hope, which is what the Shaytaan did. I don't want to be like him, therefore I will always be hopeful, Inshallah.

    Aoa. This is good for u sister. I am just mentioning how I feel. I dont have fake hopes. I now believe that no matter what you do, you cannot change fate nor avoid the inevitable. I

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    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post
    Sister when you stay to Quran only & negate Ahadeeth, things can only worsen.


    Learn about sciences of Ahadeeth & their credibilty InshaAllah

    Aoa. I never said I negate hadith.. I am skeptical. For me Quran is absolute authority. Nothing is superior.. Not even hadees. And there are several. Hadees that contradict quran.. So

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    And what about nonmuslims who don't believe in quran or hadeeth altogether.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    Aoa. This is good for u sister. I am just mentioning how I feel. I dont have fake hopes. I now believe that no matter what you do, you cannot change fate nor avoid the inevitable.
    It isn't fake hope. Hope is a sign that you have faith in your Creator, when you lose hope, you lose faith. You are wrong about changing fate, fate is a result of your actions and choices and it can change depending on what Allah allows to happen. We are even prescribed to make dua for Allah to save us from calamities, having a bad end and bad fate. You just can't expect for things to go your way when you don't put for the effort to be the best version of yourself. You can't expect to have your dua answered when you don't genuinely believe that they may (not must) be answered if it is good for you.

    You will never be happy or satisfied in life until you change your way of thought and actually start appreciating Allah and all that He has given you. Have you thought that what it is you're asking for is possibly one of the worst things you can get, and perhaps you haven't received it is a form of Mercy and Protection? Or maybe it is a test, to show you how weak your faith is and how you need to start improving on yourself before it is too late.

    If you constantly sin, do your best to stop, even if you can only stop one thing at a time, or lessen the occurrences of which you sin little by little. Start learning about Allah and Islam little by little, even as little as a 5 minute Youtube video a day or even once a week. Start building your faith up and come to the understanding that your Creator wants what is best for you, not what you think is best.

    Also, not to nitpick, but I'm a brother, not a sister.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

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    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post



    Learn about sciences of Ahadeeth & their credibilty InshaAllah
    That's what I told you dear learn more about Ahadeeth& their sciences.InshaAllah it would help you.I will make a thread on it InshaAllah .

    May Allah Ta'aala bring you relief soon with a miracle,Aameen
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    format_quote Originally Posted by Avis View Post
    It isn't fake hope. Hope is a sign that you have faith in your Creator, when you lose hope, you lose faith. You are wrong about changing fate, fate is a result of your actions and choices and it can change depending on what Allah allows to happen. We are even prescribed to make dua for Allah to save us from calamities, having a bad end and bad fate. You just can't expect for things to go your way when you don't put for the effort to be the best version of yourself. You can't expect to have your dua answered when you don't genuinely believe that they may (not must) be answered if it is good for you.

    You will never be happy or satisfied in life until you change your way of thought and actually start appreciating Allah and all that He has given you. Have you thought that what it is you're asking for is possibly one of the worst things you can get, and perhaps you haven't received it is a form of Mercy and Protection? Or maybe it is a test, to show you how weak your faith is and how you need to start improving on yourself before it is too late.

    If you constantly sin, do your best to stop, even if you can only stop one thing at a time, or lessen the occurrences of which you sin little by little. Start learning about Allah and Islam little by little, even as little as a 5 minute Youtube video a day or even once a week. Start building your faith up and come to the understanding that your Creator wants what is best for you, not what you think is best.

    Also, not to nitpick, but I'm a brother, not a sister.


    Aoa brother. My apologies. I am content with not making dua. I am a sinnr, and I am paying for my mistakes.. So no need to do duas to ask Allah to change my mistakes and fate.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post
    @iammuslim98




    That's what I told you dear learn more about Ahadeeth& their sciences.InshaAllah it would help you.I will make a thread on it InshaAllah .

    May Allah Ta'aala bring you relief soon with a miracle,Aameen
    Aoa thanku for dua sister
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    Aoa brother. My apologies. I am content with not making dua. I am a sinnr, and I am paying for my mistakes.. So no need to do duas to ask Allah to change my mistakes and fate.

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    Aoa thanku for dua sister
    Anytime:-)

    Not well so I'm posting here without making a new thread

    Credibilty & Importance of Ahadeeth


    The Qur'ān and the Sunnah have served as the primary sources of Islam. Together with the Qurʾān, the statements and actions of the Prophet ﷺ form the basis of Islamic law and theology. Historically, all Islamic sects have acknowledged the necessity of at least some ḥadīths, even if few, to understand the Qur'ān. Despite their many theological and legal differences, Muslim sects have all drawn from these two primary sources: the Qurʾān, which is considered to be the direct word of God revealed to the Prophet ﷺ, and the Sunnah, which consists of the words and actions of the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ inspired by God. In other words, the ḥadīth are reports about what the Prophet ﷺ said and did. Muslim jurists and ḥadīth scholars use these reports (i.e., ḥadīth) to understand the teachings of the Prophet ﷺ, which are called the Sunnah. Each ḥadīth is a piece of data about the Prophet ﷺ; when collected, these data points paint a larger picture which is the Sunnah.
    All Muslim groups consider the Qurʾān to be the most authentic and authoritative source, followed by the Sunnah. Because the Sunnah is needed in order to contextualize the Qur'ān, all Muslim groups have accepted the necessity of following at least some ḥadīth alongside the Qurʾān. This view has been held by all known Muslim groups, including all strands of both Sunnism and Shi'ism. This is important because the theory of consensus (ijmāʿ) holds that it is inconceivable for the entire Muslim community to agree upon falsehood. Whenever all living jurists agreed on a particular formulation of Islamic law, this consensus raised the formulation to an infallible representation of divine will. The possibility of error concerning formulations of law only existed when jurists disagreed. When they agreed on an issue, the fallibility of individual jurists was erased through the supervening principle of the infallibility of consensus. Consensus set boundaries on disagreement in the formulation of the law, and the authority of the Sunnah was outside of those boundaries.[1] Because dissent is the norm in matters of Islamic law, it makes any consensus all the more credible and binding when it occurs. In other words, the unanimity of opinion (ijmāʿ)—in a religion that has countenanced in its history a vast array of differences—is considered one of the strongest proofs for the formulation of law or creed. Ḥadīth, therefore, form a necessary component of the religion (al-maʿlūm min al-dīn bi ḍarūra).
    It was not until the nineteenth century that a movement emerged that rejected the entire corpus of ḥadīth and the authority of the Prophet ﷺ. This rejection of the entire ḥadīth corpus stems from a mistrust in the historical preservation of ḥadīth when compared to the Qur'ān or the fact that many ḥadīth clash with modern sensibilities. In an attempt to bypass any fabrications and ḥadīth that might contain discomfiting material, some have attempted to understand the Qur'ān on its own, without ḥadīth.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    format_quote Originally Posted by SoldierAmatUllah View Post
    Anytime:-)

    Not well so I'm posting here without making a new thread

    Credibilty & Importance of Ahadeeth


    The Qur'ān and the Sunnah have served as the primary sources of Islam. Together with the Qurʾān, the statements and actions of the Prophet ﷺ form the basis of Islamic law and theology. Historically, all Islamic sects have acknowledged the necessity of at least some ḥadīths, even if few, to understand the Qur'ān. Despite their many theological and legal differences, Muslim sects have all drawn from these two primary sources: the Qurʾān, which is considered to be the direct word of God revealed to the Prophet ﷺ, and the Sunnah, which consists of the words and actions of the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ inspired by God. In other words, the ḥadīth are reports about what the Prophet ﷺ said and did. Muslim jurists and ḥadīth scholars use these reports (i.e., ḥadīth) to understand the teachings of the Prophet ﷺ, which are called the Sunnah. Each ḥadīth is a piece of data about the Prophet ﷺ; when collected, these data points paint a larger picture which is the Sunnah.
    All Muslim groups consider the Qurʾān to be the most authentic and authoritative source, followed by the Sunnah. Because the Sunnah is needed in order to contextualize the Qur'ān, all Muslim groups have accepted the necessity of following at least some ḥadīth alongside the Qurʾān. This view has been held by all known Muslim groups, including all strands of both Sunnism and Shi'ism. This is important because the theory of consensus (ijmāʿ) holds that it is inconceivable for the entire Muslim community to agree upon falsehood. Whenever all living jurists agreed on a particular formulation of Islamic law, this consensus raised the formulation to an infallible representation of divine will. The possibility of error concerning formulations of law only existed when jurists disagreed. When they agreed on an issue, the fallibility of individual jurists was erased through the supervening principle of the infallibility of consensus. Consensus set boundaries on disagreement in the formulation of the law, and the authority of the Sunnah was outside of those boundaries.[1] Because dissent is the norm in matters of Islamic law, it makes any consensus all the more credible and binding when it occurs. In other words, the unanimity of opinion (ijmāʿ)—in a religion that has countenanced in its history a vast array of differences—is considered one of the strongest proofs for the formulation of law or creed. Ḥadīth, therefore, form a necessary component of the religion (al-maʿlūm min al-dīn bi ḍarūra).
    It was not until the nineteenth century that a movement emerged that rejected the entire corpus of ḥadīth and the authority of the Prophet ﷺ. This rejection of the entire ḥadīth corpus stems from a mistrust in the historical preservation of ḥadīth when compared to the Qur'ān or the fact that many ḥadīth clash with modern sensibilities. In an attempt to bypass any fabrications and ḥadīth that might contain discomfiting material, some have attempted to understand the Qur'ān on its own, without ḥadīth.

    Aoa. Sister, the first book on hadith was written 100 yrs after the passing of the Prophet saww. Quran on the other hand is absolute word of God.
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    Re: I stopped doing dua



    format_quote Originally Posted by iammuslim98 View Post
    Aoa. Sister, the first book on hadith was written 100 yrs after the passing of the Prophet saww. Quran on the other hand is absolute word of God.
    That is a misconception spread far and wide among many Muslims. The fact is that Hadith were written and collected during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad as well. But since all Sahabah could not read and write, most of them memorized the ahadeeth and later on narrated and taught them to their students. The process continued further down the generations until they were once again compiled together in several books by different scholars such as Imam Bukhari, imam Muslim etc.

    See this thread for more details on how the Ahadeeth were collected during the lifetime of the prophet himself: Sunnah & Hadiths that were written during time of the Prophet & by sahabah after .. - Ummah.com - Muslim Forum
    Another thread here: Ahadeeth Myths (islamicboard.com)


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    Re: I stopped doing dua

    "O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result." (an-Nisa: 59)


    "We have certainly sent down distinct verses. And Allah guides whom He wills to a straight path. But they [i.e., the hypocrites] say, "We have believed in Allah and in the Messenger, and we obey"; then a party of them turns away after that. And those are not believers. And when they are called to [the words of] Allah and His Messenger to judge between them, at once a party of them turns aside [in refusal]. But if the right is theirs, they come to him in prompt obedience. Is there disease in their hearts? Or have they doubted? Or do they fear that Allah will be unjust to them, or His Messenger? Rather, it is they who are the wrongdoers [i.e., the unjust]. The only statement of the [true] believers when they are called to Allah and His Messenger to judge between them is that they say, "We hear and we obey." And those are the successful. And whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger and fears Allah and is conscious of Him - it is those who are the attainers.
    (an-Nur: 46-52)

    Say, "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger; but if you turn away - then upon him is only that [duty] with which he has been charged, and upon you is that with which you have been charged. And if you obey him, you will be [rightly] guided. And there is not upon the Messenger except the [responsibility for] clear notification."(an-Nur: 54)


    "Certainly did Allah confer [great] favor upon the believers when He sent among them a Messenger from themselves, reciting to them His verses and purifying them and teaching them the Book [i.e., the Qur’ān] and Hikmah, although they had been before in manifest error." (al-Imran: 164)

    "And when you divorce women and they have [nearly] fulfilled their term, either retain them according to acceptable terms or release them according to acceptable terms, and do not keep them, intending harm, to transgress [against them]. And whoever does that has certainly wronged himself. And do not take the verses of Allah in jest. And remember the favor of Allah upon you and what has been revealed to you of the Book [i.e., the Qur’ān] and wisdom [i.e., the Prophet's sunnah] by which He instructs you. And fear Allah and know that Allah is Knowing of all things." (al-Baqarah: 231)

    So Allah ('Azza wa Jal) in many innumerable ayat in the Quran commanded us to obey two sources--the commands of Allah and the commands of His Messenger. Allah told us to believe in Allah and His Messenger so we have to believe in both what Allah says and what the Messenger (Salalahu 'Alaihi wa Salam) says. Allah told us that He revealed two things:al-Kitab wal-Hikmah. The Prophet taught two things: al-Kitab Wal-Hikmah.

    Both the Quran and the authentic Sunnah are an authority for us.
    @iammuslim98 Allah forbade us from having suspicions of our Brothers and Sisters:

    "O you who have believed, avoid much [negative] assumption. Indeed, some assumption is sin. And do not spy or backbite each other. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his brother when dead? You would detest it. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is Accepting of Repentance and Merciful." (al-Hujurat: 12)

    So then what about the best of the Muslims? The first three generations? Here we have a massive compilation of statements and actions of the Prophet (Salalahu 'Alaihi wa Salaam) and for each and every single Sahih Hadith we, as an Ummah, know each and every one of the men/women who narrated it to us. We know who they were. We know what their character was and we know exactly where they got their information from. If me and you (common laypeople) don't know all of the narrators in the chain of a Hadith, we as an Ummah still do know. This is a science that is studied and taught and is called ilm-ar-Rijal (The Science of Men) and is knowledge that is available to whomever wishes to seek it out. We know exactly where our religion comes from.

    It is Haram for us to entertain suspicions about the early Muslims with regard to their trustworthiness or competence. So based on what principle and with what reason can we justify not believing in and following the Sunnah. How can we as Muslims disregard the Sunnah of the Prophet (Salalahu 'Alaihi wa Salaam)?
    @Iammuslim Don't let shaitan play with you in the issue of Dua! Allah said:

    "And your Lord says, "Call upon Me; I will respond to you." Indeed, those who disdain My worship will enter Hell [rendered] contemptible." (Ghafir: 60)

    Wallahi! If I knew for certain that Allah would never answer any of my Dua't as long as I live in Dunyah (which is nonsense) I would still make dua due to the last part of this Ayah!

    "Iyyaka na'Budu wa Iyyaka nas ta 'een"

    How are we going to seek help from Allah without Dua? How is that at all possible?

    I do my duty as a muslim.
    By Allah, you will never be able to fulfill your duties to Him without His Help and you will never be able to attain His Help without asking (Dua'). It is apparent from your post as well that this is the case.

    It doesn't matter when or how Allah answers our Dua'

    Abu Sa’id al-Khudri reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “There is no Muslim who calls upon Allah, without sin or cutting family ties, but that Allah will give him one of three answers: He will quickly fulfill his supplication, He will store it for him in the Hereafter, or He will divert an evil from him similar to it.” They said, “In that case we will ask for more.” The Prophet said, “Allah has even more." (Ahmed)

    This is another reason we should make Dua' even if we were absolutely certain that Allah, al-Kareem would never accept any of our Dua' in this Dunyah (which is nonsense). If Allah doesn't respond in the way that we wanted or hoped then it will be saved for us in the Hereafter when we truly need it the most.
    @Iammuslim --Don't let shaitan disarm you. He knows very well that if you don't have Dua', then you will be defenseless. You will be like the sheep that strays from the flock and is easy pickings for the wolf. Thikr, Quran, and Dua is our fortress that protects us from shaitan and is the Ark that saves us from the flood. Stick to dua. And the more waswas you receive because of Dua, the more dua you should make.

    I do not know you in real life and, at best, I have only a vague understanding of your circumstances but Wallahi! I am swearing to you by Allah, if you sat and thought about it hard enough I am certain that you would be able to think about times when Allah did respond to your Dua (sooner or later).

    May Allah Protect us from the filthy shaitan and allow us all to worship Him as He ought to be worshipped and only in the manner that He deems fit. Ameen.
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