Yes several times.
Yes once I did.
No, never.
I would like to start this thread with an incident that happened to me recently. All this is 100% true.
One morning (or late at night) I woke up after I felt there was a disturbance in my room (not sure what). I opened my eyes and it was soon obvious to me that I could not move. I tried as hard as I can to get up but felt like there was a strong force pushing on my chest and into my bed. I desperately tried calling for help but I could not speak. My mouth was open but there was no sound coming out. This happened for about 30 seconds. After that something very scary happened. I started to shake violently on my bed and the bed was shaking too. I can remember thinking to myself at the time "I cant believe it, I am actually being possessed by a Jinn". The shaking lasted for about 20 seconds. When it finally stopped I could turn around in my bed. I still felt that there was a weight on my body but less than before. I did not dare get out of my bed at the time and quickly went back to sleep.
For days I did not speak of the incident to anyone. I did not want to think about it fearing that it may happen again if I do.
Then one day I was watching a program on The Discovery Channel. It was about Aliens (which I find very interesting). They were mentioning alien encounters, then asking skeptics and believers to comment on the incidents. One of the encounters was the Alien abductions. I heard what the believers had to say, and then came the skeptics. They talked about how these abductions can be explained by a phenomenon called "Sleep Paralysis". They proceeded to explain what sleep paralysis was and I could not believe how similar their encounters were to mine. Everything from the pressure on my chest to not being able to move or speak. I will give an experts explanation of Sleep paralysis at the end of this thread.
Here is what I found most interesting about this; sleep paralysis existed in all parts of the world. However, there is one major difference about what each culture experiences. Each experienced what "their" culture feared during episodes of sleep paralysis. For example for;
The U.S: it was Alien abductions. There are hundreds of thousands (if not millions according to some) of reports of Alien abductions in the U.S, yet there are virtually none in Mexico.
Japanese: The Haunted girl.
English: Old Hag. (An Old witch like woman standing next to your bed)
Muslims: Jinn possessions!
There are more examples but these are the ones I could think of.
I was so relieved to know that it had nothing to do with Jinn after all. I then went and told some of my friends and I was completely surprised to know that many of them also had similar experiences. It seems like it is more common than I thought but people just dont talk about it. Now here I am telling you about my experience. Did anyone have a similar experience?
Make no mistake I am not saying that it is not possible for a Jinn to possess someone (I actually dont know if it is), I am just saying that it is more than likely that it wasnt the case during that night. Which also brings me to another question, does anyone know of any ahadith that speak of Jinn possession? I have not yet come across any.
Anyway I would like to know what anyone thinks about this. Here is Sleep Paralysis explained in more detail:
"Sleep Paralysis
Definition: Sleep paralysis (SP) is transient state of involuntary immobility occurring immediately prior to falling asleep or upon wakening and is classified as a parasomnia associated with REM (rapid eye movement) sleep.
Parasomnia is defined as any disruptive sleep event.
Indications and Experiences Associated With SP
-SP is fairly common; many people report at least one incidence that is consistent with the general description of SP.
-There are many different experiences associated with this disorder.
-The individual is obviously paralyzed hence the name. However, many people are able to open their eyes and thus can later describe their experience visually as well as physically.
-Those who suffer with it most commonly describe hypnagogic (discussed below) and hypnopompic hallucinations. Hypnopompic describes hallucinations upon awakening.
There are three different classes of the hallucinations. Historically, these factors describe many common experiences that were consider of supernatural or paranormal.
-One factor is called the Intruder, where there is a sensed presence, and auditory and visual hallucinations.
(Many people throughout time have described the Old Hag that is a shadowy hallucination and an experience of sensed presence. )
-The second is labeled the Incubus, and consists of pressure on the chest, difficulty breathing, and pain.
(Some people have described a demon choking or suffocating them or possibly sitting on their chest. This phenomenon is also thought to explain possession and alien abduction.)
-The third factor is Unusual Bodily Experiences where the individual has sensations of floating or flying, out-of-body experiences, and feelings of bliss."
uh yea i get it real often when im stressed or upset.......just had one today actually......before i used to give in to them...but now i try moving about in them the thing is that when i speak no sound comes out and if i think i spoke no one can hear........
There are a number of authentic hadith, you can read them in the book by Shaykh Waheed AbdusSalaam Baly:format_quote Originally Posted by Cheb
http://www.simplyislam.com/iteminfo.asp?item=56240
There are also conversations recorded between the exorcists and the Jinn speaking within the body after the person loses conciousness, which cannot be explained by sleep paralysis. Jinn possession has distinct symptoms which don't match what you've described either.
format_quote Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl
There are a number of authentic hadith, you can read them in the book by Shaykh Waheed AbdusSalaam Baly:
http://www.simplyislam.com/iteminfo.asp?item=56240
There are also conversations recorded between the exorcists and the Jinn speaking within the body after the person loses conciousness, which cannot be explained by sleep paralysis. Jinn possession has distinct symptoms which don't match what you've described either.
Thank you for the helpful information.
When and after the incident, I simply did not have an explanation to why it happened, other than the Jinn that is. That is why I posted this, people who do not know the symptoms of either Jinn possession or sleep paralysis should. This is a very common occurrence among us so it does need to be addresses.
Thanks again for the link.
Thanks for sharing. Stress actually has a lot to do with this. The more stressed out you are the more episodes you will get. What you need to do is that when it is happening, convince yourself that you know what it is. Just realize that it is not real and try going back to sleep. Furthermore, I also heard that sleeping on your back increases the chances of it happening. Sleeping on your side would be better.format_quote Originally Posted by sapphire
subhanallah ahki, this is not paralyis that is just a name for something that they dont understand...
what happened to you is real , it happened to me when i was little and by the way at the time i wasnt praying and so on....
it also happened to a friend of mine,but my bed wasnt shaken, but i couldnt move, and i felt wind , i tried calling for help but it didnt work, it was scary , and i also felt something grab my ankles...
ahusubillah-- this is a shatan, or something evil......seeek refuge in ALLAH(swt)...
now since i am religious alhamdulillah, i laugh at this ahki walahee...
i wanna know if you pray aeveryday 5 times aday when this happened ,, it would be helpful to me...inshallah
It used to happen to me when I first started studying "spirituality," I bought a lot of new age books and studying ancient cultures.
I was doing exercises to go out of my body so I could reach higher states of spirituality, in the new age mindset out of body experiences are a sign of progress on your spiritual path.
Anyways, as my concentration increased I could stay conscious as I was falling asleep more and more, and then I started having similar experiences.
The first time it happened I couldn't move, and I could hardly see. I heard a very scary sounding voice coming from my door that said follow me, and whatever it was moved away and went upstairs (I lived in the basement). I started floating and it was hard to control my body. I gained some sort of control and floated my way out of my bedroom, where I was attacked by a black cat that was shredding my hands apart. I also couldn't look to my left something was just blocking me from turning that way. I managed to get away from the cat and float outside into my backyard and then it got all dreamy. I looked up at the sky and the stars looked alive, everything looked the same but with more life in it, like a cartoon anime.
I read somewhere that signs of Jinn influence are dreams of black cats.
A theory I've made from previously studying new age material, is that these outer body experiences are actually from Jinn, to further deceive you and make you think that you are actually out of your body but you're really not.
Dreams I think come from three place if I remember correctly:
1- Angels or God?
2- Jinn/Shaytan?
3 Yourself?
So these out of body experiences are most likely Jinn that deceive you and make you think you have some sort of power and can go into a different dimension, most refer to it as the Astral plane/dimension.
Each time I "got out" (which is really a deceiving jinn making me dream like I'm out of my body), I had an encounter with a being of some sort, most of the time they were black or ugly looking, like demons. They would tell me things, most of the time like follow or do something.
After a few experiences I just stopped trying, but this still happens sometimes. After I became Muslim it happened only twice, the first time I got very scared.
I was lying in my room and I fell asleep, then I woke up, or so I thought. I tried to move but I couldn't and I thought oh great I'm having this weird dream again. Then I saw some black spirit like thing coming closer and then stab at my heart, and I felt pain. It was actually painful in the dream but then I woke up and there wasn't pain but the memory of pain was there.
Second time it happened I did feel a presence but this time I started thinking about Allah and saying something I had learned I can't remember but I was thinking of God and I wasn't scared. After a while everything faded away and I just started dreaming about something or fell asleep in the dream.
Sorry for the long post :/
wow subhanallah.....i used to think it was only me lol.....i heard a voice to sargon...wow brother, when i read both these posts im like oh man..lol...mine wasnt out of body though, and i was awake i know it...i deffinatly was...
Honestly I truly believe it is Sleep Paralysis. Encounters with Jinn would be different as I have come to learn. It is very common and it has been studied thoroughly. I do not think they have a reason to lie about it. It doesnt make sense to. The symptoms in SP are exactly what I was going through. I admit that at the time (a little more than a year ago) I was not praying 5 times a day. But it actually does not have anything to do with that, the only relation is that usually people who pray have less stress than others (not all the time). It may apply directly when it comes to jinn maybe, but not with SP (other than what I just mentioned).
ok i understand you brother, but people that say its sleep paral, are not familair with something like this , like jinns and shatan... you know what im saying...its too deep, i know and the other brother knows, and you know and my boys that this was and encounter of some sort, deffinalty, not stress... stress dosent grab you , or speaks, or holds you down, or disables your speach, you see ??
format_quote Originally Posted by sargon
The reason I think your encounters were so dreamy is because that is what SP is, it is like you are dreaming when you are awake. You are stuck between your sleep and real life. Your eyes are open but your mind takes you to a dreamy place. Usually the encounters are directly related to your real life experience and the way you think. That is why in different cultures there are different experiences. Please research Sleep Paralysis and you will find taht the answers are mostly there (in this particular issue).
The thing is that its a dream. In the dream you're paralyzed but not really. You can have a dream so real that you think it's not a dream. I've also had dreams, where I wake up but I'm still dreaming, then wake up into another dream, then finally actually wake up... it's really weird only happened a few times in my life.
It usually happens after you fall asleep, but you don't think you're sleeping. If this happened like 5 minutes after you've laid down then yea it's not a dream. But if you're waiting to fall asleep and all of the sudden you can't move it's most likely a dream.
I'm interested if my theory about outer body experiences has any authenticity. There are many claims that we can leave our bodies at night consciously and visit physical places, as well as other dimensions. The only thing that makes sense is that it's a Jinn deceiving you.
Does Islam say anything about outer body experiences? I've never read anything on it before...
Everyone has thier own opinion!!
Me personally i dont think that sleep paral is right !!
do you hAVE A LINK I CAN CHECK OUT BY THE WAY???
OH BY THE WAY CHEB HIS WAS A LIL DIFF THAN MINE !! I WASNT TAKEN TO ANY DREAMY PLACE!! I KNOW I WAS AWAKE, BECUASE I WENT BACK TO SLEEP AFTER IN FEAR, I WAS AROUND 12 OR 13 AT THE TIME
Brother this is what SP is. You are awake in the sense that your eyes are open it looks sounds and feels real, but it is not! It is a dream you are having while you are semi-awake. Ok the reason why i am saying this is because different cultures have the EXACT same symptoms, yet their experiences are different. For example like I said before, in the U.S, they think Aliens are abducting them. In England I believe, They have the old Hag. It is a witch-like woman that sits on your chest (not beside you as I stated before) and starts scratch you. To me it makes perfect sense.format_quote Originally Posted by abdul Majid
Yea Cheb I think it's a dream too, it just seems real.
Well Out Of This Subject, We Do Leave Our Bodys Everynight, Its Like Death, Only Allah(swt) Desides Whos Soul Returns Back To Him When He Wakes
I also "knew" I was awakeformat_quote Originally Posted by abdul Majid. And I went back to sleep in fear as I stated above. See you were awake, but not fully.
I will try to find some helpful links for you.
Na Man, This Is Real ...ok About That Diff Places Thing You Say, Thats Becuse These People Are Not Familair With The Term Jinn Or Shatan...thats Why They Say Aleins And Such, Becuse Thats What They Can Say Nuthing Else
Im Glad Were Talknig About This ...lol
The first part of your post is true. However, I do not believe it has anything to do with outer body experiences. It is just a condition that many people suffer from. SP has actually been experimented and proven.format_quote Originally Posted by sargon
I think we should look at how Jinn has interacted with man in history and compare it to our episodes. I do not believe they are that similar, unless you are dreaming about it.
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