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    Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    Many people often ask the question, "If we (the Muslims) are the greatest nation as Allaah (swt) says in the Qur'aan, then why is it that we are so disunited, humiliated and weak…?" Indeed this is a valid question which every Muslim should be thinking about. And indeed Allaah does say in the Qur'aan:



    كُنْتُمْ خَيْرَ أُمَّةٍ أُخْرِجَتْ لِلنَّاسِ تَأْمُرُونَ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَتَنْهَوْنَ عَنِ الْمُنْكَرِ وَتُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلَوْ آمَنَ أَهْلُ الْكِتَابِ لَكَانَ خَيْرًا لَهُمْ مِنْهُمُ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ وَأَكْثَرُهُمُ الْفَاسِقُونَ

    "You are the best nation ever raised up from mankind; you enjoin the good (order people to abide by Islaam) and forbid evil (all forms of kufr, shirk and bid'ah etc. such as Democracy and voting for the Kuffaar), and you believe in Allaah..." (EMQ 3: 110)

    Therefore, the question which every Muslim must be asking should be similar to the one above. We are the greatest nation, no doubt. Allaah has blessed us with the Deen of Islaam - the Deen of Haq. Yet we are in a position nowadays which can never be attributed to a nation such as ours. So why is this? Why is our honour being violated, our sanctity being taken away, our lands being divided, Muslims being arrested and killed, the Sharee'ah not being implemented and the Kuffaar not being punished for their evil deeds? Is it because the Mosques are not full as the deviant Tableeghis claim? Is it because we are not doing enough dhikr with the lights off? Is it because we are not an educated Ummah? Is it because we are not integrating with the Kuffaar?

    Many deviant and even apostate (ex-Muslims) try to claim the above, whilst deviating from the main cause of our decline. Muslims no longer wish to strive for this Deen. They wish to go to Jannah without any kind of struggle – something which is in complete opposition to what Allaah (swt) has promised; if you want Jannah you must sacrifice and struggle for this Deen.

    Should we not be referring to the Book of Allaah and the messenger Muhammad (saw) and see what they say about our situation? It is quite a simple principle actually for any Muslim - why should we make assumptions about the reasons for our decline (with our own ration and desires), when we have the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the messenger Muhammad (saw) to refer to? Allaah (swt) says in the Qur'aan:



    وَلَقَدْ صَدَقَكُمُ اللَّهُ وَعْدَهُ إِذْ تَحُسُّونَهُمْ بِإِذْنِهِ حَتَّى إِذَا فَشِلْتُمْ وَتَنَازَعْتُمْ فِي الأمْرِ وَعَصَيْتُمْ مِنْ بَعْدِ مَا أَرَاكُمْ مَا تُحِبُّونَ مِنْكُمْ مَنْ يُرِيدُ الدُّنْيَا وَمِنْكُمْ مَنْ يُرِيدُ الآخِرَةَ ثُمَّ صَرَفَكُمْ عَنْهُمْ لِيَبْتَلِيَكُمْ وَلَقَدْ عَفَا عَنْكُمْ وَاللَّهُ ذُو فَضْلٍ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ

    "And Allaah did indeed fulfil His Promise to you when you were killing them (your enemy) with His Permission; until (the moment) you lost your courage and fell to disputing about the order, and disobeyed after He showed you which you love (victory over the disbelievers). Among you are some that desire this world (the war booty) and some that desire the Hereafter. Then He made you flee from them (your enemy), that He might test you. But surely, He forgave you, and Allaah is Most Gracious to the believers." (EMQ 3: 152)

    This verse is addressing an incident which occurred during the battle of Uhud, and there is a great lesson for all Muslims to learn from this historical event in Islaam. Allaah (swt) informs us that he did fulfil his promise to the believers until they disobeyed and disputed with one another. The messenger Muhammad (saw) ordered the archers (who were placed on the mountain) never to move from their position, even if they saw the Muslims being dragged across the earth. However, the Kuffaar were losing a great number of casualties due to the strategic placement of these archers, so the Kuffaar sought how they could lure them down from the mountain.

    The Kuffaar decided to tempt the believers with booty and show that they are retreating from the battlefield. The moment the archers saw the booty and the Kuffaar running away, they ran straight for the booty - thus disobeying the command of Rasoul-Ullaah (saw). The kuffaar then regrouped and made a counter attack, killing approximately seventy top Mujaahideen.

    Allaah tested the believers on this day and showed them that victory is not from numbers or strength; rather it is from Allaah (swt). And if we disobey the Ameer and the commands of Allaah he will test us by allowing the Kuffaar to have an upper hand over us, and unless we resist and rise against them, they will continue to have an upper hand over us, violate our sanctity and occupy our lands.

    Therefore dear Muslims, unless we rise to get rid of the Tawaagheet the Kuffaar they will always have an upper hand over us – as a test from Allaah (swt). Many deviant sects try to put the blame on us or even on the Shaytaan. However, as people who refer to the Qur'aan and Sunnah, Allaah (swt) informs us that it is our fault for not ruling by the Book of Allaah and uprising against the Kuffaar and Tawaagheet. The apostate rulers want you to blame Shaytaan and yourselves as it suits them.

    It is about time for us to think about the Ummah and the Deen of Allaah rather than ourselves, and work actively (day and night) to overthrow the kufr regimes and implement the best Sharee'ah – the Sharee'ah of Allaah. Beware that if you do not do this, you will die the death of Jaahiliyyah (like the Arabs before Islaam) and you have no excuse on the Day of Judgement.

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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

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    Allah ta'ala appoints a leader juding by the people of that nation. so when it all boils down, thanks to us, we have Bush. we shouldn't complain of no unity if we cannot contribute to it through our proper islamic character.
    Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    "Believers see their sins as if they were sitting at the foot of a mountain and feared that it may fall on them, while the corrupt see their sins as if they were a mere fly that flew by their nose."
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    asallama alaikum brothers and hopefully sisters.Once I heard from Sheik Abdullahi Hakim Quick that this world is a punishment for us and paradise for the disbeleivers, and the next life is a paradise for us and a painful punishment for the disbeleivers.We muslims are so disunited because we don't follow the Shariah fully.We follow some parts and leave out others.The Holy Quran refers to this by saying: ""Do you believe in a part of the Scripture and reject the rest? Then what is the recompense of those who do so among you, except disgrace in this worldly life, and on the Day of Resurrection they shall be consigned to the most grievous torment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do."(Verse2:85)
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    Assalamu'Alaykum

    The problem is we as "MUSLIMS" are not practicing "ISLAM"... , we must ask ourselves WHY the Islamic Empire collapsed.............. once u come to the answer ponder.
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    ^ true thing =)
    Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    "Believers see their sins as if they were sitting at the foot of a mountain and feared that it may fall on them, while the corrupt see their sins as if they were a mere fly that flew by their nose."
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    Brothers and Sisters of faith in this forum, could you please define true Islam for me, so we can all follow it and achieve our great Ummah again.

    As far as I understand, it definitely is not just Imaan, Salat, Sawm, Hajj and Zakat, while we live under Kuffar nationalist system called Nation-states. True Islam is to follow the example of Muhammad(SAWS) and the commands of Quran, not bits of pieces of it, taken out of context, but in their totality. True Islam is to follow the example of how the Ummah was formed from the sacrifices of the Sahaba and how in the Great early Ummah, under Kholafa-e-Rashidun, all inhabitants could live life in peace and prosperity, under strict Shariah based law and order.

    Islam, unlike Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism and other world religions, is not a label, which you can put on like a garment, when you have some belief and conduct some rituals. Islam is a total way of life:

    - ritualistic
    - political
    - economic
    - judicial

    etc. covering all spheres of human activity within the Ummah. Muslims living without a united Ummah, and not working towards it, are not true Muslims.

    It is a total system, that includes individuals conducts and governance of society. Until and unless we start working towards that goal, sticking to rituals only just make us half Muslim. Hope you understand these points.

    Allahu A'alam.
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    mashaAllah you beautifully answered your request of asking what TRUE ISLAM is
    Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    "Believers see their sins as if they were sitting at the foot of a mountain and feared that it may fall on them, while the corrupt see their sins as if they were a mere fly that flew by their nose."
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    I wouldnt say that was true Islam, certainly a better Islam, but I mean, if we went by your theory, then none of us are true Muslims, because today an 'ummah' as such does not exist...

    True Muslims do exist in the world, but not everyone is perfect at the end of the day...

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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?


    format_quote Originally Posted by 3washey
    The problem is we as "MUSLIMS" are not practicing "ISLAM"... , we must ask ourselves WHY the Islamic Empire collapsed.............. once u come to the answer ponder.
    Exactly. We can see this disease still amongst us in Muslims who smoke, drink and do all kinds of haraam, and then they complain about the condition of the Muslim Ummah.

    Astaghfirullah.

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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    I believe you guys know what Islam Karimov did to those Uzbeks?
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    format_quote Originally Posted by TEH
    I wouldnt say that was true Islam, certainly a better Islam, but I mean, if we went by your theory, then none of us are true Muslims, because today an 'ummah' as such does not exist...

    True Muslims do exist in the world, but not everyone is perfect at the end of the day...

    Since United Ummah and Khilafat does not exist, if we do not make a conscious effort and work towards making it happen - then we cannot be true muslims. Please note that the point I am making is that the effort to unite the Ummah in any way possible that is within our means, is an integral part of Islam and being a muslim.

    Islam and muslims without a United Ummah is a meaningless concept, since no nation, people and system survive without a self supporting state. If we continue the way we are, the differences and divergence will magnify and soon every nation-state will have its own version of Islam.

    The Shia faith rose only due to the Safavid and Qazar rulers of Iran from Turkic Azerbaijan, who imported the Shia Twelver Imams from Najaf and Basra and gave them land and power to convert the Sunni Persians around 1500. It was an effort to create a gulf with muslims from Sunni Ottoman and Mughal empire.

    So when Westerners talk about political Islam, they do not know that Islam is political by definition.

    And our pious and virtual muslim brothers and sisters, who have great enlightened aqeedah, if they are not doing anything to unite the Ummah, are also missing a large part of the picture.

    Allahu A'alam.
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    We need to restore the Caliphate but the Islamic nations remain divided.See how some Islamic nations supported the Iraqi War.

    Karimov killed more than a hundred Muslims just becuz they made a march calling Muslims worldwide to restore the Caliphate.
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?


    The kuffar have an upper hand against us because we stopped. We (as muslims) used to be the best of people. Nowadays, it is very rare to find that kind of muslim. This is why I urge youngsters to take their education seriously. If we stop again, we're done for.
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    20k muslims with best equipment is enough to conquer the world even less is enough

    Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "The best [number] of companions is four, and the best of expeditions is 400 and the best of armies is 4000. 12,000 Muslims will not be defeated for lack of numbers."
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    Because the mentality of hatred of abu jahal or abu lahab still persist in them whereas we've engrossed in the world and have left the ways of our sahaba ikram RA . Until we follow their foot-steps the circumstance of perdition are not going to be changed.
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    Hey, I'm a Christian from the United States of America.

    As to the question of why Muslims are doing so poorly, I would primarily point to the printing press. Paper, books, libraries, and academia used to belong to the Muslims. Then the printing press took things to a whole new level, and Muslims just backed out of it. It didn't happen all at once, of course- Muslim libraries and centers of knowledge did not disappear overnight- but when Europe began to widely use the printing press, while Muslims forbade it, that was the start of a centuries-long process where the fortunes of the West trended up and the fortunes of Muslims trended generally down. Since then the Internet age has been a newer and separate phenomenon, but that's not as closely related to how we got places where we are presently at.

    I want to point out a couple of things. Catholics in Europe feared the printing press because they wanted to preserve the unity of Catholicism and maintain the political and social order that the Church had such control over, otherwise known as Christendom. But the printing press did its thing, the Lutherans and Calvinists and Anabaptists were able to survive, I am a direct heir of their traditions, and Christendom (in the previously described sense) was no more. The unity of Catholicism was shattered, never to recover, and the Westphalian nation-state concept that came from That conflict is now the normative global arrangement. And the West is super powerful, you might even say dominant.

    The Muslim world also feared the printing press, specifically in terms of what it would do to the authority of the most powerful religious elites and the unity of belief and teaching. So the printing press was banned in a Muslim lands, mostly up to the late 19th and early 20th century although Napoleon dropped off four of them in Egypt in the early 19th century in the course of fleeing by night from a place that didn't want him as a ruler. And the result? Islam still winds up being rather disunified, and most Muslims are doing quite badly by all reasonable measurements.

    It was a mistake to ban the printing press, any Muslim who fought against that ban would have done you a favor if they'd won that fight, and now here we are.
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    format_quote Originally Posted by True Quran View Post
    Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?
    You suffer from severe leadership crisis. KSA is an American puppet . America is jewish puppet .
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy View Post
    You suffer from severe leadership crisis. KSA is an American puppet . America is jewish puppet .
    The problem is..

    And you could ask many people and get many answers.

    Imo the problem is that we can't escape our chains.

    ..have you ever watched phase IV?

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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    Allah will not change a peoples condition until they change their hearts.

    unless we change (in large numbers or collectively) this is exactly what we deserve, kuffar over us!
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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

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    Re: Why the Kuffaar have an upper hand over us?

    Because we are not acting upon Islam and are letting our worldly desires to rule us. If we acted upon Islam we would not let the World rule us but we would rule the World.
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