Will those of you that live in countries that have benefitted from the sacrifice of those that gave their lives, so that you could live the way you do today, take a moment on the eleventh hour of November 11th to respect those that gave their lives?
umm, to be honest. i see no point in silences, like i said in the 7/7 thread once, i dont see any point. so you think of them at 11 oclock and u 4get about them 4 the rest of the year? silence dont change nothin, doesnt matter. i kno every1 going 2 disagree, but hey i personally think we can do better than hav "2 mins silence"
It's a respect thing. You either appreciate what's been done for you or not. Taking a moment to acknowledge that is a sign of that respect. Being raised with proper morals and respect for others, and being thankful for what we have, this sign of respect should be an obvious given.
It is simply a way of saying "thank you". If someone gives you a glass of water, do you say, "thank you"? Well, these people gave you their lives.
I often remember the people who died for us in the second world war. I hate the fascists all the way to the bottom of my heart, and shaytan is one of them anyway. He thinks he's better than us because he was created out of fire rather than clay.
If the allies had not defeated Hitler, he would probably have killed all the Arabs too, they are racially very similar to Jews.
but wat bout those who sacrificed around de whole world , wat boout de Prophet(saw) he sacrificed his lyf 4 others,esp de believers in those tyms. so if we 2 show respect 2 ur silence den u shuld show respect 2 our people. our people r dyng out dere in dis cruel world yet no1 seem 2 do anything about it. we are being protrayed as an outkast! so is dat fair if we listen 2 u, den u shuld listen 2 those in need.
but wat bout those who sacrificed around de whole world , wat boout de Prophet(saw) he sacrificed his lyf 4 others,esp de believers in those tyms. so if we 2 show respect 2 ur silence den u shuld show respect 2 our people. our people r dyng out dere in dis cruel world yet no1 seem 2 do anything about it. we are being protrayed as an outkast! so is dat fair if we listen 2 u, den u shuld listen 2 those in need.
Rememberance day is about all the people who have lost their lives in the name of freedom. It's not just about WWI or WWII, but everybody.
I don't agree with the argument that it is a kuffar celebration. It's nothing to do with Christianity, it is simply a Western invention. We have not exchanged dua for this either, we can still follow the Islamic way of rememberance as well as showing kindness in the same way as the civilisation we live in. Remember when the Prophet (pbuh) stood up out of respect at the funeral of a Jew, and said 'was he not a human being' to his companion?
no, i respect the people who died for this country with gr8 respect.. honestli, but i stil dont c the point of havent 2 minute silence. everyones entitled 2 their own opinions ryt? and dis is mine.
What she's trying to say bro is that yes these people did die, but this silence isn't getting us anywhere because this evil still continues. If we're expected to be sad for the people who have sacrificed themselves, what about the one's who are still being tortured right now?
On my opinion, silence won't get us nowhere - but action will. The government likes us being silent, but they hate us speaking out. Yes we should remember the people who have passed away before us, and try to realise that this world is only temporary, and think of the best way to lead a good life to die for the sake of Allaah, but people should also realise that we need to help, we need to work together to help the ones who are still being harmed right now. This silence won't get us nowhere if we don't come together to find a solution to these problems that we are facing today.
but wat bout those who sacrificed around de whole world , wat boout de Prophet(saw) he sacrificed his lyf 4 others,esp de believers in those tyms. so if we 2 show respect 2 ur silence den u shuld show respect 2 our people. our people r dyng out dere in dis cruel world yet no1 seem 2 do anything about it. we are being protrayed as an outkast! so is dat fair if we listen 2 u, den u shuld listen 2 those in need.
You are going to have to speak in english please, I have a hard time understanding internet gibberish.
I think you are making some connection between your prophet and what you call "my" silence. There is no connection here, and it is not "my" silence. It is simply saying thank you to those that gave thier lives for you. Being respectful, it is only proper to say thank you when someone gives you something, they gave their lives.
In your post you have divided this as a "my people - your people" thing. If you live in a country where these men came from, this division does not stand. This is not a 'western thing", or a 'non-muslim thing', it is a 'everybody benefitting in the civilized world today' thing. These men gave their lives for "us". You and me.
I don't know where you live, but if you live in a country where you are benefitting today from their sacrifice, then the least you can do is say "thank you".
no, i respect the people who died for this country with gr8 respect.. honestli, but i stil dont c the point of havent 2 minute silence. everyones entitled 2 their own opinions ryt? and dis is mine.
It is simply a way of saying "thank you", nothing more. For lack of a better way, since they are dead, to say thank you with our silence. It is respectful. Is that too much to be asked in exchange for what they gave you?
Of course there is no immediate accomplishment with this action. Does being respectful have to have an immediate pay off?
sorry for offending you,and do show respect for others. and i say thank you.theres soo much too learn and understand. all i am saying is if we show respect to you so where is our respect in the society now a days, i hope you can support us, as we muslims are going through alot! an i am sorry.
I think theirs SHOULD BE A MOMENT for muslims who are literally getting killed each and every day and the genocide they had faced. I already had an assembly for this event in my school two days ago; which was not silence, but prayers were said to honour Canadian Soldiers.
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I don't want this thread to turn into a big debate or argument, but gary - you've benefited from the muslims, and that includes the Messenger of Allaah - Muhammad (peace be upon him) too they sacrificed their lives in many ways to establish what you see in the world today. For instance, if it wasn't for the muslims who settled in spain - you may have been illiterate, medicine would still be old school, there may have not been any street lamps where you live etc.
"The subjects covered by the [muslim] texts included medicine, astrology, astronomy pharmacology, psychology, physiology, zoology, biology, botany, mineralogy, optics, chemistry, physics, mathematics, algebra, geometry, trigonometry, music, meteorology, geography, mechanics, hydrostatics, navigation and history." (Burke, 1985, p. 42)
sorry for offending you,and do show respect for others. and i say thank you.theres soo much too learn and understand. all i am saying is if we show respect to you so where is our respect in the society now a days, i hope you can support us, as we muslims are going through alot! an i am sorry.
I think you are mistaken still. This not about respect for me. It has nothing to do with me. I have done nothing. It also has nothing to do with you or other muslims or other people living today.
It is only about those that have given their lives. Only on this one day. We can show our respect and concern for everybody living today the rest of the 364 days of the year.
I personally do not see a 'thank you' in keeping silence for two minutes, nor do I see a sign on gratidute as such. BUT I think I will do it, for the simple reason that the people I live with would feel annoyed or they would feel as if I have been rude to their forefathers, but I have my own way of thanking and I will insha'Allah continue to reflect and be happy about the sacrafise they gave.
I don't think a minute of silence is a great jesture, but since the public I live with holds it to be a sign of thankfullness, I will if possible take part.
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I don't want this thread to turn into a big debate or argument, but gary - you've benefited from the muslims, and that includes the Messenger of Allaah - Muhammad (peace be upon him) too they sacrificed their lives in many ways to establish what you see in the world today. For instance, if it wasn't for the muslims who settled in spain - you may have been illiterate, medicine would still be old school, there may have not been any street lamps where you live etc.
I don't debate that (to some extent), but that has nothing to do with this one day a year. Fine, have a day for muslims, I don't have a problem with that. All I am saying is this one day has been chosen for those that have fallen, let's be a little bit respectful.
I personally do not see a 'thank you' in keeping silence for two minutes, nor do I see a sign on gratidute as such. BUT I think I will do it, for the simple reason that the people I live with would feel annoyed or they would feel as if I have been rude to their forefathers, but I have my own way of thanking and I will insha'Allah continue to reflect and be happy about the sacrafise they gave.
I don't think a minute of silence is a great jesture, but since the public I live with holds it to be a sign of thankfullness, I will if possible take part.
Which in itself makes it all the more respectful. This is good.
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they sacrificed their lives in many ways to establish what you see in the world today. For instance, if it wasn't for the muslims who settled in spain - you may have been illiterate, medicine would still be old school, there may have not been any street lamps where you live etc.
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