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    Is there an Hadith which states that it is forbideen or makrooh to have another gathering on Friday apart from the gathering of Salatul Jumat? Please i want the reference for the hadith and if possible the sharh by scholars of hadith,

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    Re: Is there an Hadith which states...

    If you're talking about the gathering which is for the deceased, then this is a bid'ah (innovation) and has no basis in Islam.
    Is there an Hadith which states...

    And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.”
    [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]


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    Question Re: Is there an Hadith which states...

    If you're talking about the gathering which is for the deceased, then this is a bid'ah (innovation) and has no basis in Islam.
    Jazakumullah khairan,
    i do not mean the gathering for funeral, what i want to know is the any form of islamic gathering that is allow on any other day say "ilm halqat". I think i have heard something like this before but i don't know whether it is sahih and if it is, its reference.
    pls assist, may Allah assist us All. ameen
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    Re: Is there an Hadith which states...

    format_quote Originally Posted by abu_abdullah View Post
    Jazakumullah khairan,
    i do not mean the gathering for funeral, what i want to know is the any form of islamic gathering that is allow on any other day say "ilm halqat". I think i have heard something like this before but i don't know whether it is sahih and if it is, its reference.
    pls assist, may Allah assist us All. ameen
    Asslamoalaikom


    I understand what you refer to Bro

    It is the issue of gathering in the mosque for knowledge and listening to preaching or knowledge before salat Jomaa

    Before prayer (Jomaa) :It is prohibited such gathering and the hadith is clear:

    روى أبـوداود و النـسائي و الترمذي عن عمرو بن شعيب عن أبيه عن جده أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم نــهى عن التحلق قبل الصلاة يوم الجمعة



    English :Narrated Abu Dawood (that the prophet prohibited gathering for listening and learning in mosque before the prayer of Friday )..

    After prayer ,there is no hadith prohibit it .......

    Imam Ibn Baaz said in his fatwa No 5186 :


    الفتوى رقم (5186)
    س : لا يخفى على سماحتكم أنه لم يرو في عهد الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم ولا الخلفاء ولا التابعين وتابعيهم والسلف الصالح : أنه جرى الخطبة أو الوعظ بعد صلاة الجمعة مباشرة ، ولا يخفى على سماحتكم ما جاء في الحديث الصحيح : من أحدث في أمرنا هذا ما ليس منه فهو رد ، و : من عمل عملًا ليس عليه أمرنا فهو رد ، وحديث : إياكم ومحدثات الأمور ، وأهم من ذلك كله قوله تعالى : فَإِذَا قُضِيَتِ الصَّلَاةُ فَانْتَشِرُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ ومن يعظ بعد الصلاة مباشرة يدخل في معصية أمر الله ، بحيث لا ينفذ الأمر بالانتشار ؛ لهذا كله أستفتيكم بما تدينون الله به : هل يجوز الخطبة أو الوعظ بعد صلاة الجمعة؟ ولا يفهم من ذلك أنا نكره الوعظ فيما عدا ذلك بعد الفروض الأخرى بل نؤيده ونحبذه ، حفظكم الله ورعاكم .
    ج : لا نعلم دليلًا يدل على منع الموعظة بعد الصلاة ، ومعلوم أن الدواعي لإلقاء الموعظة تختلف باختلاف أحوال من يلقيها ، وحاجة الناس لها ، وأحوال الأئمة الذين يقومون بإلقاء الخطب ، وأما الآية التي ذكرتها فلا تتعارض مع إلقاء الموعظة ، فمن أراد الجلوس للاستماع أو أراد الخروج- فالأمر في ذلك واسع .
    وبالله التوفيق وصلى الله على نبينا محمد وآله وصحبه وسلم .
    اللجنة الدائمة للبحوث العلمية والإفتاء
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    عبد الله بن قعود عبد الله بن غديان عبد الرزاق عفيفي عبد العزيز بن عبد الله بن باز

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    We don't know any proof that prohibit gathering in mosque for preaching or learning after Friday prayer (Jomaa).....
    Last edited by Imam; 04-29-2009 at 07:19 PM.
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    Re: Is there an Hadith which states...

    jazakumullah khairan
    thanks for the response. as the hadith sahih?
    روى أبـوداود و النـسائي و الترمذي عن عمرو بن شعيب عن أبيه عن جده أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم نــهى عن التحلق قبل الصلاة يوم الجمعة
    sorry for asking, just wanted to be sure.
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    Re: Is there an Hadith which states...

    format_quote Originally Posted by abu_abdullah View Post
    jazakumullah khairan
    thanks for the response. as the hadith sahih?

    The Hadith is classified by Imam al-Tirmidhi as Hasan (Fair)

    which means:

    "It refers to a Hadith which is known, its reporters are famous, the majority of the scholars have accepted it as evidence and the jurists utilize it."

    Left one other word to add:

    Imam yosuf Alqaradawy argued that the Hadith only makes it (Makrooh)not recommended, and not (haram) prohibited....
    in other words If there are strong necessity for such gathering then it is ok.......



    peace
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