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    Rasullah Saw said, “Whoever revives an aspect of my Sunnah that is forgotten after my death, he will have a reward equivalent to that of the people who follow him, without it detracting in the least from their reward."




    Hijamah



    Hijama is also known as cupping or bloodletting therapy. It is a process of removing blood from the body and it is distinctive from the well-known practice of bloodletting or cupping because Hijama is governed by specific times that it should take place as well as specific points on the body that enhances health, detoxifies the body and builds up immunity. Hereinafter, cupping will be referred to as Hijama.

    Hijama is actually an ancient treatment that originated in China thousands of years ago. This therapy was originally known as ‘cupping’ because of the use of the cup as a therapeutic tool. The practitioner pumps air into the cup, either manually or by means of a suction device, to create a vacuum.

    Al Hijama is an Arabic word meaning ‘sucking’. It comes from the Arabic root ‘Al Hajm’. Al Hajjam is the name given to the practioner and Hijama is the name given to the profession. The word al Mihjam refers to the vessel in which the blood is collected.



    Hijama in Religious Practice

    There is an Islamic basis for Hijama therapy. As previously mentioned, the word ‘hijama’ is an Arabic word and Muhammad (peace be upon him) urged his followers to use this therapy as a means of healing and preventive medicine. The following is some essential information about Muhammad (PBUH) who spoke about the benefits and details of Hijama.



    Hadith (sayings of the prophet). The following are some hadith about Hijama therapy.


    Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said, “I did not pass by any group on the night of Al Isra, unless they said to me, ‘O Muhammad, tell your Ummah to do Hijama.” (Reference: Ibn Majah, 3477)

    The Prophet (PBUH) explained that Hijama is one of the best medicines: “The best medicine with which you treat yourselves is Hijama, or it is one of the best of your medicines,” or “The best treatment you can use is Hijama.” (Reference: Al Bukhari, 5371)

    Muhammad (PBUH) said: “Hijama is the most helpful procedure for human beings to cure themselves.” (Reference: Al Bukhari, 5357)

    The Prophet (PBUH) also said: “If there is anything good in the medicines with which you treat yourselves, it is in the incision of the Hijama therapist, or a drink of honey or cauterization with fire, but I do not like to be cauterized.” (Reference: Muslim, 2205)

    The Prophet (PBUH) said: “The best treatment is Hijama; it removes blood, lightens the back and sharpens the eyesight.” (Reference: At Tirmidhi, 3053)

    Anas narrated that the Prophet (PBUH) used to have Hijama done on the veins on the side of the neck and the upper back. (Reference: At Tirmidhi)

    Jaabir ibn Abdullah narrated that Umm Salama asked permission from the Prophet (PBUH) to do Hijama. So the Prophet (PBUH)ordered Abu Teeba to do Hijama for her. Jaabir ibn Abdullah said, “I think he (PBUH) said that Abu Teeba is her brother through breastfeeding or a young boy who hadn’t yet reached puberty. (Reference: Saheeh Muslim, 5708)

    Ibn Umar reported that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, “Hijama on an empty stomach is best. It increases the intellect and improves the memory. It improves the memory of the one memorizing. So whoever, is going to have Hijama done should do it on a Thursday in the name of Allah the Almighty. Keep away from having Hijama done on a Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Have Hijama done on a Monday or Tuesday. Do not have Hijama done on a Wednesday because it is the day that Ayyub [Job](PBUH) was befallen with the trial. You will not find leprosy except by

    having Hijama on Wednesday or Wednesday night.” (Reference: Saheeh Sunan ibn Maajah, 3488).




    Benefits of Hijama


    Hijama has stimulating and strengthening effects so it successfully treats the following conditions: constipation and diarrhea, headaches, back pain, arthritis, period pain, injuries, asthma, cellulite, fatigue, anemia, depression and emotional problems, atrophy, sciatica, common cold and flu, skin problems, weight loss and much more.

    Even though Hijama is a very simple procedure, it has dramatic effects. Our health and well-being are tied up with the immune system and are totally dependent on the flow of blood and Qi (energy) and body fluids like hormones and lymphatic fluid. Traditional medicine tells us that all pain is due to stagnation of these symptoms. The cups used in Hijama have a wonderful pulling power and this is a dramatic technique in reducing pain and enhancing the feeling of well-being.



    Importance of the skin

    Any stimulus that is directed to influence and manipulate the internal or external organs must start with the skin. The body’s first contact with the outside world is through the skin and it is true to say that the skin is the mirror of our health. If a person has good health, his or her skin will be shiny, tight and smooth and will respond to temperature and will be warm when touched. The skin protects the body from pathogens and plays a role in a number of body functions. It is the main organ of sensation, through many millions of nerve endings contained in its structure.

    The main fourteen channels with a direct link to the internal organs lie within the skin. When stimulating a particular point through Hijama, the organ’s blood and Qi is manipulated. In Chinese medicine the skin is directly controlled and influenced by the lungs. The lungs spread the Qi and fluids all over the body through the skin.



    Blood

    Blood is transformed from the essence of food produced through the functional activity of Qi that circulates through the blood vessels and nourishes the body tissue. Blood is derived from food and Qi and

    produced by the spleen. (Blood will be discussed in detail in the section about the anatomy of the body)



    Qi

    Qi is the invisible life force – like air and wind. The West tries to define Qi as ‘the energy of life’, ‘vital force’, ‘life force’, ‘energy’, but there is no Western equivalent. When we are ill we feel weak and have a low energy level but when we feel better we feel more energetic and much stronger. So we all experience the existence of Qi continuously.
    Movement of any kind requires Qi and often this is manifested as heat. Lack of energy is signified by cold.

    When treating a disease at the Qi level, the external pathogen is still fighting at the skin and the body’s overall resistance is still good. Some clinical manifestations of this are a high fever, a cough with thin yellow phlegm, wheezing and thirst. Hijama treatment at this level is very effective.



    Stagnation

    Stagnation of body systems can be the result of lack of movement, injury, stress, a lack of blood, Qi or the invasion of cold into the body and joints. Cold drinks and foods or irregular feeding habits can also cause accumulation problems. All these impair the Spleen’s function of transformation and transportation. Clinical manifestations of this are restlessness, vomiting, the production of phlegm, diarrhea, constipation, a hardened stomach and painful abdomen. Hijama relieves all these symptoms.

    Regardless of the cause, Hijama can be applied to specific points of the body like what is done in acupuncture, to the area that is dysfunctional. After a short time the patient will feel warmth and there will be a reduction of pain.

    Fluids in the body can also become stagnant and they are necessary to help the stomach carry out its proper digestive function.


    Hijama therapy regulates the flow of Qi and blood. It also helps draw out and eliminate pathogenic factors like wind, cold, damp and heat. Hijama also moves Qi and blood and opens the pores of the skin, thus, assisting the removal of pathogens through the skin.



    Beauty therapy

    Hijama is also beneficial in beauty therapy as it promotes the production of hormones, encourages blood flow and body fluid movement in the bowels and internal organs. In this way toxins are removed and this is important because toxins speed up the aging process and cause other negative conditions.




    Aging

    Authentic holistic therapy balances all aspects of the body. The aging process speeds up when individual cells dry out, or too much sun. Kidney weakness also speeds up the aging process and leads to dry and damaged hair, early graying or hair loss. Imbalance in ladies also manifests in the early signs of menopause with hot flushes, night sweats and dry skin. Simply applying external lotion to the skin or hair does not access the root cause.




    Stimulating and strengthening effects

    The benefits of Hijama are uncountable due to its stimulating and strengthening effects. It has treated bowel conditions, headaches, back pain, arthritis, menstrual pain, injuries, asthma, cellulite, fatigue, anemia, depression and emotional problems, atrophy, sciatica, common cold and flu, skin problems, blood pressure, weight loss and ladies problems.

    The negative role of toxins in the degeneration of health is of ever-increasing importance. Even though modern medicine has eradicated many epidemics there is an increase in what is called civilization diseases (metabolism diseases). These diseases are caused by the great quantity of chemicals a person takes during his or her lifetime. A recent American statistic on food additives shows a 100-pound intake per person in his life span. The average American takes about 1000 tablets a year. This is a health catastrophe. Modern medicine differs greatly from its ancestors who maintained that the body functions are interrelated in a network.




    Release of toxins and impurities

    One of the main functions of Hijama treatment is that it releases toxins with minimal additional stress to internal organs. It also directly de-acidifies tissues, enhances blood circulation, stimulates the immune system and reduces stress as it releases chemicals in the brain that reduce stress and depression. Another benefit of Hijama therapy is that it facilitates a sufficient flow of nutrition to the affected tissues and stimulates the flow of blood and lymph to the affected area. In this way, it improves blood and lymph flow, and activates the function of the organs. Performing Hijama on the corresponding organ points is used to treat disorders such as liver and kidney problems, respiratory diseases, digestive disorders and some gynecological disorders.

    In ancient times, Hijama did not have specific indications and was mainly used to drain blood and pus from abscess and for sucking blood from poisoned wounds and snakebites. However, in later times this therapy expanded to encompass illnesses related to internal medicine such as pulmonary tuberculosis, rheumatism, abdominal pain, stomach ache, indigestion, headache, hypertension, common cold, lumbago, backache, swelling and eye pain and boils. In some places, Hijama therapy was used in conjunction with acupuncture. Today, Hijama is used to treat colds, lung infections and problems in the internal organs. It is also used to treat muscle spasms especially in the back. It can also be used to treat painful joints, stomachache, vomiting and diarrhea. Since Hijama stimulates the flow of blood it helps to treat blood stagnation, poor circulation, and asthmatic conditions.




    Immunity

    Hijama strengthens the body’s resistance and eliminates pathogenic factors and so prevents illness. It also regulates the function of the blood and promotes general good health. By creating localized bruising, it activates the body’s defensive cells to heal the bruised area.

    In the past, people who were not ill often had Hijama done twice a year; in the spring and the autumn believing that thinning the blood would promote good health. This continued to the 19th century and was a regular practice.



    Pearl divers in the Arabian Gulf used to undergo Hijama before the diving season in the belief that this would prevent diseases during the three months at sea. It was also thought to be very effective against dizziness.

    Dr. Katase from Osaka University maintained that Hijama influences the composition of blood as it increases red and white blood cells and changes acid blood into alkaline or neutral blood thereby leading to the purification of blood. It also purifies the body of accumulated irritants that cause inflammation.

    Recent studies indicate that having Hijama done at specific points on the back increases immunity by increasing the white blood cell count. In addition to enhancing the body’s defenses, Hijama regulates blood circulation throughout the entire body. The flow of blood in the human body is very important as it regulates, coordinates and unifies the organs via the blood vessels. The flow of blood is the life force that maintains health and each organ receives its requirements of nourishment to maintain a healthy, normal state. The blood flows throughout the body nourishing tissues and enhancing the immune system.




    Effect on circulatory system

    Hijama also has a positive effect on the circulatory system. Due to the pull of low pressure, the flow of blood in arteries and veins increases and in the veins localized congested blood appears then disappears. With Hijama therapy it is possible to ease the interruption of blood circulation and congestion and to eliminate the inflammatory fluids from the tissues. So the greatest characteristic of Hijama is the facilitation of blood flow.




    Effect on muscles

    The pull of low pressure Hijama therapy activates the blood vessels within the muscles. The expansion of the blood vessels in the muscles facilitates the flow of blood and has a remarkable effect on stiff shoulder. After Hijama, the skin will glow because of the rise in skin temperature and muscles because of the increased blood flow.




    Effect on diseases

    Almost all diseases respond to Hijama. The following are some of the most common:


    Pain related conditions

    Hijama eases pain, especially that which is related to headache, menstrual cramps, dental pain, tennis elbow, muscle pain, back pain and sciatica.

    Headache and migraine

    In the 18th century Hijama was considered to be an effective remedy for headache and it was highly recommended for migraine. The Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) used Hijama as a treatment for migraine.

    Rheumatic diseases

    Many rheumatic disorders simply disappear after just a few sessions of Hijama therapy. It has a great effect on back and joint problems and is especially helpful for conditions such as rheumatism, lumbago and stiff neck and shoulders because it increases blood circulation and mobility. By supplying more oxygen, hormones and essential enzymes to local tissues and joints, Hijama keeps local tissues warm and this increases elasticity and flexibility in muscles and joints. It also relieves muscle spasms and stiffness in muscular tissue and the pain that is associated with it. It has a remarkable effect on a stiff (frozen) shoulder. It is also effective for chronic joint rheumatism as it facilitates the flow of blood to the joints. It also removes congested blood and solves problems that can not be solved with acupuncture.

    Arthritis

    In the beginning, Hijama was recommended for the treatment of arthritis and pain as well as gout. When treating arthritis the treatment is concentrated on the area of the joints concerned. If it is a mild case it is possible to have a complete cure.


    Low back pain

    Hijama relieves low back pain and in chronic cases it can be used along with acupuncture.


    Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

    Chronic fatigue syndrome is long-standing severe fatigue without substantial muscle weakness and without proven physical or psychological causes. It has been found that Hijama along with acupuncture is an effective treatment.

    Fevers and local inflammation

    Chinese doctors believe that a number of diseases are the result of blood stagnation and heat. They used Hijama to remove stagnant blood, activate blood circulation and dispel pathogenic factors. Hijama was used on patients suffering from flu, headache and fever.

    Chest and heart diseases

    Hijama is also recommended for the treatment of lung diseases, especially chronic cough, pleurisy, bronchial congestion and asthma. It was also advocated for the treatment of congestive heart failure until the 1930s. As recently as 1942, medical textbooks advised Hijama for high fever pneumonia and acute pneumonia. Hijama also successfully treats hypertension.

    Gastrointestinal diseases

    The stomach, spleen and intestines are considered to be the most important engines of the human body. From these areas the natural healing power of the body derives its energy. Dry Hijama stimulates the insides of these organs, their movement and secretion of digestive fluids and so strengthens the power of digestion, the absorption of nourishment and the power of secretion. It relives chronic gastroenteritis and constipation. These organs also benefit from Hijama treatment applied to the back as it stimulates the spinal nerves and automatic nerves as well as strengthening the muscles of the respiratory system.

    Urinary diseases

    Hijama therapy is known to treat stones, abscess and urine retention. Cups can be applied to the lumber region to treat urine retention.

    Dermatologic diseases

    The skin disorders that are well-known to be treated by Hijama are: boils, abscess, herpes, acne, cellulite and urticaria. Sometimes acupuncture is used in conjunction with Hijama.

    Hijama therapy is also known to stimulate hair growth through direct physical stimuli on hair roots and the expansion of blood vessels of the skin through the pull of low pressure.

    The skin is benefited in many ways through Hijama treatment as it stimulates the flow of lymph fluids which helps remove bacteria and carry proteins. This strengthens the power of the skin and its resistance to many harmful conditions, meaning it would regenerate faster if it is cut or wounded. The enhancement of blood circulation encourages a sufficient supply of nutrition to skin tissue. After Hijama, skin temperature rises and increases blood flow. Hijama also improves skin respiration and promotes gaseous exchange within cells. It also promotes metabolism within skin tissues and accelerates the functions of both sweat and sebaceous glands leading to the secretion of salts, sebaceous material and the excretion of sweat.

    The essential point of Hijama is not only to expel stagnant blood but also to expand blood vessels to facilitate blood flow and remove toxic substances from the surface of the skin.

    Psychological diseases

    Hijama therapy is like massage and is effective against anxiety and worry. Hence, insomnia is treated with Hijama in conjunction with massage. It also helps balance hormones, which is very effective when treating depression.

    Infectious diseases

    In the 18th century Hijama was considered an effective remedy for cholera and in America Hijama was encouraged during yellow fever epidemics. Furthermore, mumps was treated by applying water Hijama over the swollen glands.


    Varicose veins

    Hijama removes stagnant blood from these fine capillaries. Hijama should never be done directly on the main varicose veins.

    Cancer

    Most conventional doctors are trained to perform surgery, radiation therapy and chemotherapy to treat cancer. As the rate of cancer patients is soaring worldwide every available therapy should be utilized. Although there is no documented evidence that hijama cures cancer, it is known to dramatically improve the condition of the patient. Some practitioners use it to rebalance energy in the body that has been blocked by certain tumors. Hijama is effective for undoing the damage done to patients by conventional therapies of chemotherapy and radiotherapy. Hijama has found a place in cancer therapy, not yet as a cure, but as a complementary therapy that helps patient feel better, detox, relieve pain and recover faster. During chemotherapy the immune system is depleted and Hijama helps repair the immune system and strengthens it to withstand further attack.


    Contraindications

    Hijama should not be performed on open wounds or around skin ulcers. It is contraindicated on irritated skin or over allergic skin or where any skin lesions are present. It should also be avoided in elderly people with thin, delicate skin. If the patient has a bleeding disorder Hijama should not be done. It is also unadvisable to perform Hijama wherever there are great vessels, and it is also not beneficial if the patient has serious heart disease.


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    format_quote Originally Posted by Froggy View Post
    Definite for all ailments except death. That's one way to interpret it which would make it clearly scientifically inaccurate. The other interpretation is that it helps with every disease, which is not scientifically innacurate per se.
    I am not going to argue against what I have already broken down structurally word per word and in light of entire compendiums of prophetic medicine.. However, I'll argue that you can't say that it is scientifically inaccurate even if if we were to go solely by the first explanation and not the [latter (more accurate)] simply because we have not run clinical trials using only black seed against whatever other drug to see head to head which is most beneficial!

    and I wouldn't mind such trials given that they'd have to be cross referenced only against diseases that were prevalent millenniums ago and not for instance such new diseases as 'AIDS' ..

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    I am not going to argue against what I have already broken down structurally word per word and in light of entire compendiums of prophetic medicine.. However, I'll argue that you can't say that it is scientifically inaccurate even if if we were to go solely by the first explanation and not the [latter (more accurate)] simply because we have not run clinical trials using only black seed against whatever other drug to see head to head which is most beneficial!

    and I wouldn't mind such trials given that they'd have to be cross referenced only against diseases that were prevalent millenniums ago and not for instance such new diseases as 'AIDS' ..

    all the best
    Why only those? Its says every disease but death, which must mean every ailment that has and will affect man.
    And even if you focus on the time of the prophet, do you honestly think a seed (or any other substance for that matter ...) can cure, for instance, Angelman syndrome?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Froggy View Post
    Why only those? Its says every disease but death, which must mean every ailment that has and will affect man.
    And even if you focus on the time of the prophet, do you honestly think a seed (or any other substance for that matter ...) can cure, for instance, Angelman syndrome?
    Only those because the Hadith wasn't specific for things to come.. in fact it is a sign of judgment day and mentioned in other ahadith, that the more people sin, the newer and incurable diseases will befall them.

    'Abdullâh ibn 'Umar said, "The Prophet (SAW) came to us and said, 'O Muhajirun, (emigrants from Makkah to al-Madînah) you may be afflicted by five things; God forbid that you should live to see them. If fornication should become widespread, you should realise that this has never happened without new diseases befalling the people which their forebears never suffered. If people should begin to cheat in weighing out goods, you should realise that this has never happened without drought and famine befalling the people, and their rulers oppressing them. If people should withhold Zakat, you should realise that this has never happened without the rain being stopped from falling; and were it not for the animals' sake, it would never rain again. If people should break their covenant with Allâh and His Messenger, you should realise that his has never happened without Allâh sending an enemy against them to take some of their possessions by force. If the leaders do not govern according to the Book of Allâh, you should realise that this has never happened without Allâh making them into groups and making them fight one another.' " (Ibn Majah).

    Also you need to define for yourself the difference between a disease and a syndrome!

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    Only those because the Hadith wasn't specific for things to come.. in fact it is a sign of judgment day and mentioned in other ahadith, that the more people sin, the newer and incurable diseases will befall them.

    'Abdullâh ibn 'Umar said, "The Prophet (SAW) came to us and said, 'O Muhajirun, (emigrants from Makkah to al-Madînah) you may be afflicted by five things; God forbid that you should live to see them. If fornication should become widespread, you should realise that this has never happened without new diseases befalling the people which their forebears never suffered. If people should begin to cheat in weighing out goods, you should realise that this has never happened without drought and famine befalling the people, and their rulers oppressing them. If people should withhold Zakat, you should realise that this has never happened without the rain being stopped from falling; and were it not for the animals' sake, it would never rain again. If people should break their covenant with Allâh and His Messenger, you should realise that his has never happened without Allâh sending an enemy against them to take some of their possessions by force. If the leaders do not govern according to the Book of Allâh, you should realise that this has never happened without Allâh making them into groups and making them fight one another.' " (Ibn Majah).

    Also you need to define for yourself the difference between a disease and a syndrome!

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    Well, if you want definitions, technically death is not a disease either..
    And anway:

    syn·drome (sibreve 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnahnprime 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnahdromacr 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnahmlprime 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah)n.1. A group of symptoms that collectively indicate or characterize a disease, psychological disorder, or other abnormal condition.
    2. a. A complex of symptoms indicating the existence of an undesirable condition or quality.

    dis·ease (dibreve 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah-zemacr 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnahzprime 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah)n.1. A pathological condition of a part, organ, or system of an organism resulting from various causes, such as infection, genetic defect, or environmental stress, and characterized by an identifiable group of signs or symptoms.

    Ailment is an ailment.
    And people in Mohammed's time certainly didn't know or care about definitions. A child with Angleman syndrome would have been considered ill back then and I'm wondering if you believe black seed/cumin could cure Angelman syndrome.
    In one of your previous post you said you believed there is a cure for every disease, even heavy chromosomal deficiencies.

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    A syndrome is a disease and a disease is a syndrome, its intertwined and more about semantics..
    Here is a different definition though:

    • Disease: a morbid entity characterized usually by at least two of these criteria:
      1. Recognized etiologic agent (cause)
      2. Identifiable group of signs and symptoms
      3. Consistent anatomic alterations


    The definition of syndrome is pretty straight forward:

    • Syndrome: a collection of signs and symptoms known to frequently appear together but without a known cause.

    Angelman nowadays can be considered a disease, it was apparently named a syndrome before its etiology was researched.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Froggy View Post
    Well, if you want definitions, technically death is not a disease either..
    And anway:
    I don't understand what this means?

    syn·drome (sibreve 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnahnprime 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnahdromacr 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnahmlprime 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah)n.1. A group of symptoms that collectively indicate or characterize a disease, psychological disorder, or other abnormal condition.
    2. a. A complex of symptoms indicating the existence of an undesirable condition or quality.

    dis·ease (dibreve 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah-zemacr 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnahzprime 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah)n.1. A pathological condition of a part, organ, or system of an organism resulting from various causes, such as infection, genetic defect, or environmental stress, and characterized by an identifiable group of signs or symptoms.
    I am aware of the definitions the question is, are you, you specifically mentioned angelman like pradar willi or cri du chat etc etc. are caused by chromosomal abnormalities.. when it is your genetics, you can't classify it as a disease in the lay man's terms, if we are going by the medical terminologies.. How you find yourself is your baseline..
    and we can contrast that with this hadith:

    Ibn `Abbâs said to `Atâ b. Rabâh: "Shouldn't I point out to you a woman of Paradise?"

    He replied: "Indeed. Do so."

    Ibn `Abbâs said: "Do you see that black lady? She approached the Prophet (peace be upon him) and said: 'I suffer from epilepsy and during a fit, my body becomes exposed. So please supplicate Allah on my behalf.'

    "Then the Prophet said to her: 'If you choose, you might rather bear it patiently and you will attain Paradise on account of it. Or if you like, I will beseech Allah to cure you.'

    "She said: 'I will bear it patiently. But my body gets exposed, so please beseech Allah that my body will no longer be exposed.'

    "The Prophet (peace be upon him) beseeched Allah for this." [Sahîh al-Bukhârî (5652) and Sahîh Muslim (2576)]
    http://en.islamtoday.net/artshow-427-3255.htm

    certainly if black seed could have been used as you suggest 'a cure-all' he'd have prescribed her that for her condition right there and then?

    It is important before you gauge in any topic that you are familiar with all aspects of it!

    Ailment is an ailment.
    And people in Mohammed's time certainly didn't know or care about definitions. A child with Angleman syndrome would have been considered ill back then and I'm wondering if you believe black seed/cumin could cure Angelman syndrome.
    See above! you don't know what the people back then cared for or didn't

    In one of your previous post you said you believed there is a cure for every disease, even heavy chromosomal deficiencies.
    I do indeed.. surely you've heard of vectors and liposomes, enzyme replacement therapy?

    http://wiki.medpedia.com/Gaucher's_Disease

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Froggy View Post
    Several options:
    1. The interpretaion may be wrong, as you said.
    2. Black seed was not available
    3. Muhammad forgot what he said about black seed
    Etc ...
    Of course options abound in the minds of the doubters and disbelievers. Lets look at the proposed options and evaluate their probability in a realistic manner.

    2- Whether black seed was available or not, I am assuming you mean available to the Prophet? If that is the case, then Prophet never gave these things to people much like how a pharmacist would. Its surprising that black cumin would not be available in Makkah/Medina! Specially when Prophet previously has said that it has cure for "all diseases," I would suspect EVERY medinan to have it in his house ..... and in the markets. Your assumption that it was not available is a mere conjecture of a sick and deluded mind.

    3- Muhammad did not forget about the Quranic verses which were revealed over 23 years, he forgot what prescribed about black cumin seeds? He had a sharper brain than you do.
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    Re: Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    I don't understand what this means?


    I am aware of the definitions the question is, are you, you specifically mentioned angelman like pradar willi or cri du chat etc etc. are caused by chromosomal abnormalities.. when it is your genetics, you can't classify it as a disease in the lay man's terms, if we are going by the medical terminologies.. How you find yourself is your baseline..
    and we can contrast that with this hadith:

    Ibn `Abbâs said to `Atâ b. Rabâh: "Shouldn't I point out to you a woman of Paradise?"

    He replied: "Indeed. Do so."

    Ibn `Abbâs said: "Do you see that black lady? She approached the Prophet (peace be upon him) and said: 'I suffer from epilepsy and during a fit, my body becomes exposed. So please supplicate Allah on my behalf.'

    "Then the Prophet said to her: 'If you choose, you might rather bear it patiently and you will attain Paradise on account of it. Or if you like, I will beseech Allah to cure you.'

    "She said: 'I will bear it patiently. But my body gets exposed, so please beseech Allah that my body will no longer be exposed.'

    "The Prophet (peace be upon him) beseeched Allah for this." [Sahîh al-Bukhârî (5652) and Sahîh Muslim (2576)]
    http://en.islamtoday.net/artshow-427-3255.htm

    certainly if black seed could have been used as you suggest 'a cure-all' he'd have prescribed her that for her condition right there and then?

    It is important before you gauge in any topic that you are familiar with all aspects of it!


    See above! you don't know what the people back then cared for or didn't


    I do indeed.. surely you've heard of vectors and liposomes, enzyme replacement therapy?

    http://wiki.medpedia.com/Gaucher's_Disease

    all the best
    3. It says "cures all disease but death, which suggest death is a disease (at least the English translation suggests that)
    2. I guess we can conclude the hadith doesnt say black seed/cumin is a cure for all.
    3. I haven't but it doesn't seem really plausible in all conditions. But you can never say never in science.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Wa7abiScientist View Post
    Of course options abound in the minds of the doubters and disbelievers. Lets look at the proposed options and evaluate their probability in a realistic manner.

    2- Whether black seed was available or not, I am assuming you mean available to the Prophet? If that is the case, then Prophet never gave these things to people much like how a pharmacist would. Its surprising that black cumin would not be available in Makkah/Medina! Specially when Prophet previously has said that it has cure for "all diseases," I would suspect EVERY medinan to have it in his house ..... and in the markets. Your assumption that it was not available is a mere conjecture of a sick and deluded mind.

    3- Muhammad did not forget about the Quranic verses which were revealed over 23 years, he forgot what prescribed about black cumin seeds? He had a sharper brain than you do.
    Remembering verses which one has constantly recited for 23 years is different than forgetting a single fact, and its possible for instance the camel urine hadith was recorded when Muhammad was older, I don't know. And I replied to this in my answer to Skye.
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    Re: Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Froggy View Post
    3. It says "cures all disease but death, which suggest death is a disease (at least the English translation suggests that)
    I have taken care of the translation word for word, plus given ahadith of conditions of the time which weren't prescript black seed.. did you read at all anything that was written-- just so I know whether or not to waste my time as I hate to repeat myself!
    2. I guess we can conclude the hadith doesnt say black seed/cumin is a cure for all.
    You can also conclude that cumin and black seed are different ahadith given different ahadith numbers as per previous page, and again I have gone extensively over it and shown that cumin isn't even black!

    3. I haven't but it doesn't seem really plausible in all conditions. But you can never say never in science.
    Indeed.. great strides are made and I have no reason not to believe that at some point many genetic diseases will become extinct once the proper loci is identified and the correct vectors introduced in vivo.. if to every ailment is a cure and as per Quran, the day of judgment will not occur until folks feel that they have a grip on everything, and man's ego and at the same time endeavor for knowledge exists strides can and will be made!

    How you personally feel about the matter is irrelevant since most assuredly you'll be dead before said events take place, I doubt very much you can comment on things yet to come and to be discovered or invented!

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    Re: Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Froggy View Post
    Remembering verses which one has constantly recited for 23 years is different than forgetting a single fact, and its possible for instance the camel urine hadith was recorded when Muhammad was older, I don't know. And I replied to this in my answer to Skye.
    verses weren't constantly recited over 23 yrs.. if you took the trouble at all, you'd know that they were constantly revealed.. some ten, fifteen years apart and in different places belonging to different suras.. I don't think you quite understand the magnitude of that, and simply we aren't speaking of verses here, rather ahadith, a completely different style text in every day language..

    your reply to him or me isn't well thought out I am afraid..

    it is best to reflect on what you are trying to say or write before you write it, not just out of the love of making a point albeit an absurd one!

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    Re: Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    verses weren't constantly recited over 23 yrs.. if you took the trouble at all, you'd know that they were constantly revealed.. some ten, fifteen years apart and in different places belonging to different suras.. I don't think you quite understand the magnitude of that, and simply we aren't speaking of verses here, rather ahadith, a completely different style text in every day language..

    your reply to him or me isn't well thought out I am afraid..

    it is best to reflect on what you are trying to say or write before you write it, not just out of the love of making a point albeit an absurd one!

    all the best
    I have a rough understandning of the islamic revelation and I am well aware of the difference between it and the sunnah. And if youd read my post correctly youd see that.
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    Re: Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Froggy View Post
    I have a rough understandning of the islamic revelation and I am well aware of the difference between it and the sunnah. And if youd read my post correctly youd see that.
    I didn't rely on circumstantial evidence rather what you yourself have written her:

    viewpost 1 - Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah Remembering verses which one has constantly recited for 23 years is different than forgetting a single fact
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    Is there any credible research to shed light on the positive healing effects of cupping?
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    Re: Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Froggy View Post
    Is there any credible research to shed light on the positive healing effects of cupping?
    I don't know, I haven't come across any..

    blood letting or medical phlebotomy is mainstay treatments for conditions I afore mentioned however.
    You are welcome to start a double blind trial and publish in the esteemed journal of your choice however.. I doubt very much that holistic medicine be it acupuncture or blood letting goes head to head to current medical treatment.. it is simply a different avenue and certainly not a substitute from receiving current medical care.

    Nothing in science for instance forbids me from taking a table spoon of honey a day along with an inhaled ergot so I am not sure where you are headed with all of this?

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    Re: Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    I don't know, I haven't come across any..

    blood letting or medical phlebotomy is mainstay treatments for conditions I afore mentioned however.
    You are welcome to start a double blind trial and publish in the esteemed journal of your choice however.. I doubt very much that holistic medicine be it acupuncture or blood letting goes head to head to current medical treatment.. it is simply a different avenue and certainly not a substitute from receiving current medical care.

    Nothing in science for instance forbids me from taking a table spoon of honey a day along with an inhaled ergot so I am not sure where you are headed with all of this?

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    Hi all

    Just came across this discussion about doing an effective study on the possible benefits of wet-cupping.

    There was a similar discussion on another forum about how to go about designing one at Qatar Living Forums (but I think there are some inherent difficulties):

    http://www.qatarliving.com/node/878458

    However it would be good if someone can come up with some good suggestions, I would be happy to take part in any such study and also help provide volunteers to take part.

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    Re: Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah

    It's interesting that Hijama is an originally Chinese practice.
    The principle of Qi (see below) sounds very much like Chinese medicine to me. Does it align with Islamic teachings? (I assume it must do, if Muhammad practiced and permitted it himself)

    Qi

    Qi is the invisible life force – like air and wind. The West tries to define Qi as ‘the energy of life’, ‘vital force’, ‘life force’, ‘energy’, but there is no Western equivalent. When we are ill we feel weak and have a low energy level but when we feel better we feel more energetic and much stronger. So we all experience the existence of Qi continuously.
    Movement of any kind requires Qi and often this is manifested as heat. Lack of energy is signified by cold.

    Another question:

    I donate blood regularly - approximately 500 ml every three months.
    I wonder if donating blood would have similar health benefits to the donor as Hijama ... as well as benefiting the recipient? Does anybody know?
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    Re: Hijamah/Blood-letting Cupping & Reviving the Sunnah

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    It's interesting that Hijama is an originally Chinese practice.
    The principle of Qi (see below) sounds very much like Chinese medicine to me. Does it align with Islamic teachings? (I assume it must do, if Muhammad practiced and permitted it himself)
    Yes, prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him practiced Hijama and it is sunnah, but he never mentioned anything about this "Qi" thing.
    The mentions of Qi in the article is very ambiguous and not clear what it actually is, so i don't give much weight into it.


    I donate blood regularly - approximately 500 ml every three months.
    I wonder if donating blood would have similar health benefits to the donor as Hijama ... as well as benefiting the recipient? Does anybody know?
    I also donate blood regularly, similar to your routine.
    i don't think donating blood have similar benefits to Hijama. Although they may share some benefits.
    first, blood for donation is taken straight from veins, which is the normal blood circulating in our body, while hijama sucked out only "bad blood" from skin capilaries between arteries.
    Also, hijama is done on certain parts of the body (mostly back and other areas where problems occur).
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    That's interesting. Thank you, naidamar.
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    i understand the benefit of hijama, but do you need to go to someone professional to do it for you? is it possible to practice and implement it on yourself? is it hard to learn? how can one learn to do hijama?
    i havnt read the whole thread, so i hope these questions havent been answered already.
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