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    As salamu alaikum

    whats an insane person in islam?

    can a modern day bipolar disorder or shizophrenic fit in with the insane ?

    or is it anyone who cant tell the diffrence between right and wrong is insane...

    reason is i i have bipolar disorder and i can tell the diffrence between right and wrong
    so im not insane...

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    I do have a thought disorder if thats considrerd insanity but i can still tell right from wrong and the pink from the white....

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    cloud conciousness is checked for me it feels like im in a dream...
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    Re: whats considered an insane person in Islam?...

    format_quote Originally Posted by Desert View Post
    As salamu alaikum

    whats an insane person in islam?

    can a modern day bipolar disorder or shizophrenic fit in with the insane ?

    or is it anyone who cant tell the diffrence between right and wrong is insane...

    reason is i i have bipolar disorder and i can tell the diffrence between right and wrong
    so im not insane...

    ???

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    I do have a thought disorder if thats considrerd insanity but i can still tell right from wrong and the pink from the white....

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    cloud conciousness is checked for me it feels like im in a dream...

    Asalaamualaykum.

    I have spoken to Ulema about this topic as it directly relates to my professional field.

    The topic of insanity is a long and winded study in itself through 1400 years as the medical world has changed their criteria from studies carried out and new diagnostics.

    Cutting a long story short - Bipolar disorder in your case would be regarded as sane for the simple fact that you have stated that you know the difference between wrong and right.

    Does that mean all Bipolar patients are considered as sane in Islam? The answer would have to be no because some degrees in Bipolar will render a patient where they are not cognitive for a period of time.
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    Hi.. you are not insane just believe that Allah swt guides you always.. your lord gives you mercy..yahrhamuka rabbuk. I myself was diagnosed with schizophrenia.. but i can really distinguish from right or wrong.. just don't share too much about yourself to your friends that you have that disorder to refrain from anger.. i moved here in usa because all my friends walk away so be careful of sharing the things that might scared them.. but just be kind and refrain anger because we are something special.. because even with these disorders we know that our lord Allah is there to guide us.. you are not alone just focus whatever happens Allah swt wont leave you.. SubhanAllah wa' bihamdihi.. peace be with you.. 57
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    Re: whats considered an insane person in Islam?...

    format_quote Originally Posted by Desert View Post
    As salamu alaikum

    whats an insane person in islam?

    can a modern day bipolar disorder or shizophrenic fit in with the insane ?

    or is it anyone who cant tell the diffrence between right and wrong is insane...

    reason is i i have bipolar disorder and i can tell the diffrence between right and wrong
    so im not insane...

    ???

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    I do have a thought disorder if thats considrerd insanity but i can still tell right from wrong and the pink from the white....

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    cloud conciousness is checked for me it feels like im in a dream...
    I don't think there is Fiqh regarding what is 'insane' and 'sane' in Islam
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    Re: whats considered an insane person in Islam?...

    format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime View Post
    I don't think there is Fiqh regarding what is 'insane' and 'sane' in Islam

    Asalaamualaykum

    you couldn't be more incorrect. In fact the topic of Sanity and definitions come up time and time again.
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    Re: whats considered an insane person in Islam?...

    i think i was misdiagnoised with bipolar if i state the reason why i get called insane is...

    1...i get very angry and start yelling at the person im angry with

    2... im a compulsive eater

    3.its some sort of impulse to make me say words of kufr

    other than that im fine woah i sound like a pig


    its out of my control...

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    do i apostate everytime i say words of kufr under the impulse?
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    You really can't control it.. i think i already have 7 episodes in being crazy.. 1st.. i stop the car in the middle of traffic lights and walk away leaving my car.. and when im near at my home i remove my clothes everything except my boxer shorts and walk home.. second i robbed a gasoline station but i hypnotized the saleslady and the security guard and walk away..and so on All i know that Allah is guiding me always to be safe. But after all that episodes i ask for forgiveness and thank Allah that im alive and nobody shot me while being crazy. we with disorders need to find the truth but 1st you need to control your emotions and forget bout people what they think of you.. you dont need them you need Allah swt.. just feel the inner heart and you'll be fine..forgive,be kind, and understand that Allah swt has purpose for us.. All of us has a purpose.. some with knowledge, some are without, some are good, some are bad..All we need is to realize and feel what Allah wants us to be.. i hope this will help you..
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    Re: whats considered an insane person in Islam?...

    format_quote Originally Posted by iantot0617 View Post
    You really can't control it.. i think i already have 7 episodes in being crazy.. 1st.. i stop the car in the middle of traffic lights and walk away leaving my car.. and when im near at my home i remove my clothes everything except my boxer shorts and walk home.. second i robbed a gasoline station but i hypnotized the saleslady and the security guard and walk away..and so on All i know that Allah is guiding me always to be safe. But after all that episodes i ask for forgiveness and thank Allah that im alive and nobody shot me while being crazy. we with disorders need to find the truth but 1st you need to control your emotions and forget bout people what they think of you.. you dont need them you need Allah swt.. just feel the inner heart and you'll be fine..forgive,be kind, and understand that Allah swt has purpose for us.. All of us has a purpose.. some with knowledge, some are without, some are good, some are bad..All we need is to realize and feel what Allah wants us to be.. i hope this will help you..

    I understand where your coming from
    i get delusional and start thinking i am the wife of jesus christ
    or that I have given birth to prophet Muhammad
    or that i remain close in contact with the angel of death....


    its all my religious delusions

    I play nun....

    I found this at the islamqa.com https://islamqa.info/en/191488 i better control myself im scard
    because when I say words of kufr its from mania

    compulsions in mania is kinda like looking at a piece of chocolete and trying to avoid eating it

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    for all the momments in life where people call me sane after my religious delusions I get I feel like yellling

    they cause more harm then good

    we insane people are sick we dont understand so please dont expect us to act "normal" when we do our crimes...
    like anger and stuff...

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    my psychiatrist told me im in my own realm far far away but to come to down to earth I need to take those tablets...
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    Re: whats considered an insane person in Islam?...

    format_quote Originally Posted by Supernova View Post

    Asalaamualaykum

    you couldn't be more incorrect. In fact the topic of Sanity and definitions come up time and time again.
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    Re: whats considered an insane person in Islam?...

    format_quote Originally Posted by JustTime View Post
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    I am not here to advise you - I am advising the OP: Please speak to your local Mufti or Aalim concerning my statement.
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    Divorce is fiqhi fiqhi the sanity of the one who utters divorce is questioned..


    also salah ad deen made a major point of taking care of the insane...
    first mental hospital built by muslims
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    Im sorry i think i'm not in the position to help..i know where just looking for answers why is this happening right? or somebody to comfort us not to get help or argue.. to whom it may concern we have doctors for your info.. All we need is acceptance from this site.. All are welcome.. we are brothers and sisters just different beliefs..Allah is our Allah we make mistakes so don't judge..All we need is comfort..sorry again..
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    I have a memory from full blown mania that i just become a kind saint and give away my things
    and drive recklessly and wear extra hijaab but i know exacetly what i am doing

    wait its called impaired judgement in mania
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    Re: whats considered an insane person in Islam?...

    This coming Saturday in sh'Allah, I am filming a Doctor who has specialised in mental health, he will be giving a talk in Central London Mosque in Regents Park.

    Stay tuned, video should be up early next week in sh'Allah.

    Also, in the near future, i'm planning to film Doctor Rizwan Saleem from Ha Meem Foundation and College, he is a qualified Doctor of mental health as well, as well as a shaikh. Keep us in your dua, we hope to shed light on this much ignored subject from within the Muslim populations of the world.
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