There are many ahadeeths that say that Prophet Mohammad (saw) had split the moon (Sahih Bukhari #830, #832, #208, #209, #210, #211, #387 etc..)
Many non-Muslims say that if the moon was split by Prophet Mohammad (saw) then the whole world would've witnessed this great event but there is no evidence to suggest this. What should I say? The Qur'aan also confirms this miracle:
اقْتَرَبَتِ السَّاعَةُ وَانشَقَّ الْقَمَرُ
The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder.
A miracle by definition is the suspension of the natural laws of the universe. Forget about human witnesses, imagine the gravitation disturbance that would have resulted from such an event under the natural laws of the universe. According to the descriptions in the Ahâdîth, part of the moon appeared on the east side of Mt. Hîra and ther part on the west side, which is quite significant. The display was momentary as the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said "bear witness" before the moon was re-joined. Furthermore, it is reported by Imâm Abû Dawûd At-Tayâlisî and Imâm al-Bayhaqî that travellers who arrived in Makkah also confirmed that they witnessed the event. So the phenomenon was witnessed and attested to by the people of the region and part of it being miraculous is that it did not create any disturbance to be documented by other people.
Even if we do suppose that God allowed it to be an observable phenomenon across the globe, then most people who were experiencing night-time and were awake and were watching the moon at that particular sudden moment on that particular night would not have been taken credible enough for historical documentation that would stand 1400 years. Even if there were a total of thousands of witnesses across all the lands, the chance they would ever travel to meet together in one city and discuss what they probably dismissed as an illusion is minimal. For the Quraysh, they witnessed the Prophet spit the moon and ask them to bear witness and they witnessed the testimony of the travellers as well. This was a sign for the Quraysh.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Surely I was sent to perfect the qualities of righteous character" [Musnad Ahmad, Muwatta Mâlik]
Re: SubhanAllah - Miracle of the Splitting Moon video
that was great, i heard sumwhere that the day is near wen the moon is lookin very large, is that true? coz about a week ago i was in the car wiv my family and we saw the moon and the looked so massive it almost looked unreal
Re: SubhanAllah - Miracle of the Splitting Moon video
format_quote Originally Posted by nelly
that was great, i heard sumwhere that the day is near wen the moon is lookin very large, is that true? coz about a week ago i was in the car wiv my family and we saw the moon and the looked so massive it almost looked unreal
nah, the moon is actually moving away from the earth..
The tidal bulges produced on Earth by the Moon are not centered at the point on Earth's surface directly below the Moon, but are shifted ahead of the Moon because of Earth's faster spin rate. The gravitational force of the excess mass in this displaced bulge pulls on the Moon, slightly increasing its orbital velocity. In the 1600s, Johannes Kepler showed that when an object's orbital velocity increases, its orbital radius will expand; thus, the Moon slowly recedes from Earth.
SubhanAllah.. it's already mentioned in the Quran
Noble Verse 51:47 "And the firmament, We constructed with power and skill and verily We are expanding it." The Universe according to the Noble Quran will keep expanding and changing until the Day of Judgment.
Re: SubhanAllah - Miracle of the Splitting Moon video
format_quote Originally Posted by nelly
that was great, i heard sumwhere that the day is near wen the moon is lookin very large, is that true? coz about a week ago i was in the car wiv my family and we saw the moon and the looked so massive it almost looked unreal
I did hear in a lecture that there is a prophecy that the moon will look more bloated [i.e. more bigger] closer to the final hour. Allaah knows best.
Yes, I understand, I am just at a lost of words to why thousands of cultures did not write about this, nor attribute this action to their own gods. Such a thing like the moon splitting I would think create thousands of literrary works.
There are mentions of chinese and indian historical recordings which mention the year of 'when the moon split.' I will try to find the source if i can inshaa Allaah [God willing] as i heard it in a lecture by Imaam Anwar al-Awlaki.
Anyway the reason why it might not be preserved by other countries as much is due to the fact that the moon was only visible at night time - therefore half of the world is counted out [due to the fact that its day time there.] Then there is also the issue of clouds, so not all countries who are seeing the night can view the moon. Then we also know that 1400years ago, it was rare to be a literate person. We also know that not all the historical recordings were preserved since that time.
Therefore it doesn't mean that it never occured simply because there aren't thousands of literary works. We believe in it because it's mentioned in the Qur'an and the Authentic Ahadith, we don't need to doubt it if it's mentioned there - the same way you believe because your scripture says something - something even more miraculous where you claim that a whole nation spoke to God directly.
I would love to rip the Torah by listing all it's scientific inaccuracies, but I will not steep that low.
I'm not speaking about a scientific inaccuracy philo. I am speaking about why thousands of cultures did not begin reporting about how the moon split. It is actually a huge difference. I am willing to accept scientific inaccuracies like the moon splitting because such a thing is easy for G-d. It is why it was never reported by all these civilizations.
So? there is NO opposition between you and me ..... Iam talking about subject and you talk about another.
"And of every thing We have created pairs: that ye may receive instruction"
does This verse talk about reproduction?
please read carefully .. and be honest with yourself when you read Quran.
I was speaking about on the matter if every species was created in a pair or not.
other cultures have reported the moon splitting.. can be read here
WITNESS OF MOON SPLITTING (A MIRACLE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH ))
CHAKRAWATI FARMAS KING OF MALABAR, INDIA
The incident relating to King Chakrawati Farmas is documented in an old manuscript in the India Office Library, London, which has reference number: Arabic, 2807, 152-173. It was quoted in the book "Muhammad Rasulullah," by M. Hamidullah:
"There is a very old tradition in Malabar, South-West Coast of India, that Chakrawati Farmas, one of their kings, had observed the splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) at Mecca, and learning on inquiry that there was a prediction of the coming of a Messanger of God from Arabia (Detail given bellow), he appointed his son as regent and set out to meet him. He embraced Islam at the hand of the Prophet, and when returning home, at the direction of the Prophet, died at the port of Zafar, Yemen, where the tomb of the "Indian king" was piously visited for many centuries."
The old manuscript in the 'India Office Library' contains several other details about King Chakrawati Farmas and his travel[1].
The king spent weeks in seclusion. In the midst of his quiet life, he set out on the journey along with the Arab travelers who'd promised him earlier. On the way, they stopped by Koylandi and from there to Dharmapatnam where they halted for 3 days. Then they set out to Shehr Muqalla. On reaching there, they set for the Hajj pilgrimage and thereafter returned to Malabar. He aspired to spread the message of Islam. But on the way, he fell sick and breathed his last.
A tradition of the Holy Prophet has also been reported from one of the companions, Abu Saeed al Kaudri, regarding the arrival of Cheraman Perumel. "A king from India presented the Messenger of Allah with a bottle of pickle that had ginger in it. The Holy Prophet distributed it among his companions. I also received a piece to eat ". (Hakim reports in 'Al Musthadrak )
Umar Qazi's poem on Cheraman Perumal.
Umar Qazi was well aware of the story of Cheraman Perumal - the first Indian to accept Islam. He narrates it thus in one of his poems inscribed on the walls of Ponnani Juma Masjid.
Kodungallur was a center of festivals established by the great Emperor Cheraman Perumal .....
The major part of all the minor kingdoms were under his rule ...
As such, one day he saw he saw the moon split into two (a miracle of Holy Prophet performed in Arabia) on a clear cloudless night ....
As a result the love for Holy Prophet grew in his heart and he became the earliest Muslim of this nation....[2]
Moon Splitting in The Quran
The splitting of the moon is mentioned in the Holy Qur'an, Surah Al-Qamar (54), Verses 1-3:
The hour drew nigh and the moon was rent in twain.
And if they behold a portent they turn away and say:
Prolonged illusion.
They denied (the Truth) and followed their own lusts.
Yet everything will come to a decision.
Moon Splitting in Hadiths
Narrated Abdullah bin Masud: "During the lifetime of the Prophet the moon was split into two parts and on that the Prophet said, 'Bear witness (to thus).' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 830)"
Narrated Anas: "That the Meccan people requested Allah's Apostle to show them a miracle, and so he showed them the splitting of the moon. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 831)"
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: "The moon was split into two parts during the lifetime of the Prophet. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 832)"
Narrated Anas bin Malik: "The people of Mecca asked Allah's Apostle to show them a miracle. So he showed them the moon split in two halves between which they saw the Hiram' mountain. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar), Volume 5, Book 58, Number 208)"
Narrated 'Abdullah: "The moon was split ( into two pieces ) while we were with the Prophet in Mina. He said, "Be witnesses." Then a Piece of the moon went towards the mountain. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar), Volume 5, Book 58, Number 209)"
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas: "During the lifetime of Allah's Apostle the moon was split (into two places). (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar), Volume 5, Book 58, Number 210)"
Narrated 'Abdullah: "The moon was split (into two pieces). (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar), Volume 5, Book 58, Number 211)"[3]
According to Maududi, the traditionists and commentators have agreed that this incident took place at Mina in Makkah about five years before the Holy Prophet's Hijra (migration) to Madinah.
The Moon had split into two distinct parts in front of their very eyes. The two parts had separated and receded so much apart from each other that to the on-lookers (in Makkah) one part had appeared on one side of the mountain and the other on the other side of it. Then, in an instant the two had rejoined. This was a manifest proof of the truth that the system of the universe was neither eternal nor immortal, it could be disrupted.
This incident indicated that huge stars and planets could split asunder, disintegrate, collide with each other, and everything that had been described in the Qur'an on the Resurrection could happen. The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) invited the people's attention to this event only with this object in view and asked them to mark it and be a witness to it. But the disbelievers described it as a magical illusion and persisted in their denial. They were reproached in Surah Al-Qamar (The Moon) for their stubbornness.
Other Relevant Notes
It is due to this incident about their king, the people of Malabar became the first community in India to accept Islam. Subsequently, they increased their trade with Arabs, as the Arab ships used to pass by their shores on the way to China before the advent of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Before Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), Malabar also had a Christian community dating back from the earliest followers of Prophet Jesus ('Isa), pbuh. St. Thomas is believed to have migrated to India and died there. This community remained untouched by later theological developments in Christianity until the arrival of Portugese traveler Vasco da Gama.
When the British were consolidating their stronghold in India, they deployed the largest naval operation (on the shores of India) against the Muslims of Malabar[4].
Predictions of the coming of a Messanger of God from Arabia
Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) was commanded by God to inform that he was not the only Messenger of God to the world [Al Qur'an 46:9]. Scholars say that there had been some 124,000 Prophet sent to the world who preached in the language of the respective people [A Qur'an 14:4]. The true religion they preached and their scriptures got corrupted with passage of time (with the exception of Al Qur'an). However, the message on the last and greatest Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) is retained till date in the scriptures of all major world religions.
The Hindu scriptures identify the greatest Prophet to come mentioning details of his birth, events of his life, his followers, etc. Some even give his Arabic name or its equivalents! This article will help creating right belief (Iman) in other religionists.
Further, it will help Muslims appreciate yet another facet of greatness of Prophet (Pbuh) and deepen their Iman. We will see here only a sample of the overwhelming evidences!
Prophet (Pbuh) Foretold in India (A) Hindu scriptures
There is no doubt that God sent Prophets (Pbuh) to people of India. There is no mention of any Indian Prophet or scripture in Holy Qur'an. But Bukhari records Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) as saying he was enjoying breeze wafting from India laden with fragrance of Tawhid (unity of God). The four Vedas (scriptures) of Hindus and their epics are said to be 5000-10,000 years old. They contain a great deal of monotheistic ideas, and of course, prophecies on Hadrath Muhammad (Pbuh).
Bhavishya Puran
This is a Sanskrit work of prophecies. The title means 'Book of the Future'. Since Hinduism is based in India it was, and still is, taken for granted that its sages will be born in India itself. Contrary to this belief the Book says that a great master will appear in a foreign country (mlechcha acharya) and live in a sandy region (marusthal). His name will be Mahaaamad. Within a short span of 18 couplets Mahaamad is mentioned five times.
There is an interesting information in Bhavishya Purana that Mahaamad would appear to Bhoj, ruler of Dhar, and say that he would establish the religion of meat eaters, by the command of Ishwar i.e. God. There is a tradition that long afterwards, Bhoj got terrified on seeing the full moon split into two. Learned men consulted holy books and told him that it was one of the signs of the Universal Master to be born in a country to the West. Bhoj sent his minister to Prophet (Pbuh) in Arabia, who named the king Abdullah. The Tomb of Abdullah is still there at Dhar...
Mahabharat
This is a Hindu epic describing the struggle and triumph of good against evil. It was written by sage Vyas who also authored Bhavishya Purana. Mahabharata says that in the last eon called Kali Yug (in which we now live) a great sage will appear with name Mahaamad. He would preach about unity of God. He will be driven away from his native place by his own folk. By him the world would get peace. (Islam means peace). Mahabharat further says that cloud will provide him shade. It is recorded in history that Buhaira, the Christian priest of Syria observed this sign with Muhammad e in his boyhood and identified him as the last Prophet anticipated for millennia.
Kalki Puran
The signs and events of the final Avatar Kalki point out to final Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh). They fit those of Muhammad (Pbuh) neatly and perfectly. They are as follows;
Kalki will appear in the last on Kali Yug and will be the guide for the entire world.
He will be born on the 12th day of the month. Prophet (Pbuh) as born on 12th Of Rabiyyul Awwal).
His parents will be: Vishnu Bhagat and Soomati meaning servant of God (the Cherisher) and peace. (Messenger's (Pbuh) father's name was Abdullah, God's servant and mother was Amina refuge giver which includes the idea of 'peace'.)
He will be with a beauty par-excellence. His body will be fragrant.
He will get wisdom on a mountain. (Messenger (Pbuh) was conferred Prophethood on Mt.Hira)
He will receive a horse from God, which will be faster than lightning. Riding it he will go around the earth and seven skies. (During Mi'raj Prophet (Pbuh) got Buraq meaning lightning and toured the entire universe.)
Kalki will split the moon. Like Bhoj, Cheraman (Zamorin) Perumal the ruler of Indian kingdom of Kerala, witnessed splitting of the moon performed by Prophet (Pbuh). After gathering the facts he sailed to Arabia and became Muslim at Prophet's (Pbuh) hand. His Tomb is near the city of Salala in Oman[5].
There is a very old tradition in Malabar, South-West Coast of India, that Chakrawati Farmas, one of their kings, had observed the splitting of the moon,
So this Muslim who became afterwards a Muslim because he witnessed this "miracle" which I have no porblem accepting since the Torah not only says false prophets may perform miracles but in many cases WILL perform mircales. The only problem is that, if the moon split, I would have to say, that we would know about this event, from such a huge amount of writing and talk on the topic. Not from the manuscripts of one guy, or such. I can find hundreds of manuscripts speaking about how a fire "god" went around the earth 30 times spitting fire at every community and then justify it by finding a few accounts of fire gods.
I think we may just have to accept that the amount of evidence you require may be a lot less of which I require, which is not a bad thing, but a reality.
So this Muslim who became afterwards a Muslim because he witnessed this "miracle" which I have no porblem accepting since the Torah not only says false prophets may perform miracles but in many cases WILL perform mircales. The only problem is that, if the moon split, I would have to say, that we would know about this event, from such a huge amount of writing and talk on the topic. Not from the manuscripts of one guy, or such. I can find hundreds of manuscripts speaking about how a fire "god" went around the earth 30 times spitting fire at every community and then justify it by finding a few accounts of fire gods.
I think we may just have to accept that the amount of evidence you require may be a lot less of which I require, which is not a bad thing, but a reality.
I think we may just have to accept that the amount of evidence you require may be a lot less of which I require, which is not a bad thing, but a reality
That is true. Quite often in discussing religious beleifs that is the only point that can be agreed upon by all.
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