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    im 48 and from dewsbury U.K.
    i recently did a bbc interview about 7/7 ,terrorism,community issues


    i dont like divisions in the ummah,all the different labels.

    we believe in one allah s.w.t.
    one prophet muhammad s.a.w. as THE final messenger.
    one ka aba,one direction for salah
    one yearly hajj

    so why so many labels
    why have they been carried over from the subcontinent
    im not going to post them here
    i want to remove the labels,the division,

    do we not agree on enough already
    so can we not agree to disagree on some issues at least

    the ummah is suffering,do i even need to tell you this
    we need unity,hate spreads hate,love overcomes all negatives
    we need tolerance and love to be the victor
    NO ONE WILL RESPECT US UNTIL WE DO NOT RESPECT EACH OTHER

    please teach your children that they are muslim
    not from a certain village,certain "sect",certain "school"

    are you an "i" or will you be a "we"

    on this day friday make an intention to use one label from now on upon yourself..
    MUSLIM..alhamdulillah

    just muslim?..no

    MUSLIM..BY THE GRACE AND MERCY OF ALLAH TAALA

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    audio of my bbc interview

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p047bv99

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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    i was on bbc 5 live this morning

    tonight maybe on bbc 9 or 10 pm
    tomorrow some more

    duas needed.
    i speak some bitter truths but ,
    ive had enough

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    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoC...Y7pS53sQUQ7EsQ

    phonecall about grooming gangs ..3 girls..my feelings..

    interview with bbc 5 live after the manchester terror attack

    i may be in a short clip on bbc news at 10,maybe..about leeds 7/7

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    in 5 weeks im gonna have to deal with the 7/7 "anniversary"

    seriously

    now on twitter too

    https://twitter.com/ahmeddewsbury?lang=en-gb




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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    welcome to forums

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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    may allah give you blessings in both dunya and hereafter,forgive all your sins and shower you with his mercy and blessings.innahu ala kuli sheer qadeer.

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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

    I have read your article on your blog. You wrote:

    Therefore , The Muslim victim industry and the anti-prevent brigade (m.v.i.) (a.p.b.), should ponder over how they operate.

    Any articles, talks, tweets or campaigns against Muslim criminals anywhere ?


    Do they address the causes of “islamofauxbia” ?, which is really a punishment from Allah ta ala for our own sins and failures as this hadith states.


    Hadhrat Jareer (Radi Allaho anho) has narrated that Hadhrat Mohammad S.W. was pleased to say: “When an individual of a community sins, and the community, in spite of its authority over him, does not prevent him from sinning, Allah’s punishment descends on them even before death, i.e., He subjects them to various tribulations in this very world.


    I openly disagree with the m.v.i. and a.p.b on many of their endeavours, opinions, and approaches, despite being fellow Muslims.
    A few points about Prevent. Prevent is a failed policy. It has been derided by academics, [i] teaching unions, [ii] students,[iii] police officers,[iv] and teachers. Many mosques have spoken out against it and there has been a groundswell of opposition to it within the Muslim community. [v][vi][vii]

    The Guardian reports on a study done by an advocacy group that the Prevent scheme, which is claimed to be needed for anti-radicalisation purposes, is instilling “fear, suspicion and censorship” on university campuses.

    Kevin Courtney, acting General Secretary of the National Union of Teachers, spoke passionately about how Prevent does not prevent terrorism, rather it prevents the freedom of speech of Muslim children. It has created a fear culture in schools causing Muslim children to fear to speak out and it has perpetuated teachers’ fears of Ofsted, which drives Prevent and the “British values” agenda.

    The UN Special Rapporteur on the rights to freedom of peaceful assembly and of association, Maina Kiai, argued in his UK country report: “...By dividing, stigmatising and alienating segments of the population, Prevent could end up promoting extremism, rather than countering it.”

    The Council of Europe’s human rights commissioner, Nils Muiznieks repeated many of the same concerns as the UN rapporteur arguing that Prevent was “isolating” Muslim communities.

    There are plenty of articles, tweets and campaigns against Muslim criminals. For instance, the following link has a video of hundreds of Muslims condemning terrorism. You can easily find more examples:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-protest.html

    Working to remove evil can be done in numerous ways. It does not have to be through supporting a failed policy like Prevent.

    I am also confused why you think 'islamofauxbia' is a punishment, and the implication that it does not exist. In trying to ward off evil, we should not go to the opposite extreme where merely speaking in favour of Muslims (and defending their human rights) is regarded as problematic.
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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    Oh brother if only more thought like you... How can we expect to reach out to non muslims when we treat members of our own faith terribly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1 View Post
    Oh brother if only more thought like you... How can we expect to reach out to non muslims when we treat members of our own faith terribly.
    Jazakallah,subhanallah i just found this on google,

    im involved in a few things,will make public later

    my other social media and story

    https://twitter.com/aim4peace4uk

    https://www.facebook.com/DewsburyAhmedPatel


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    if anyone is interested in working with me in improving relations with our non muslim neighbours in the u.k please contact me .

    must be mature,caring and non judgemental.

    https://twitter.com/aim4peace4uk

    https://www.facebook.com/DewsburyAhmedPatel

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    Die neuesten Tweets von Ahmed Patel Dewsbury (@aim4peace4uk). A forgotten victim of 7/7 2005.Campaigning against terrorism and c.s.e. Lets make a better world for all our children.We are one.Peace. Dewsbury, England...

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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    With respect brother, there are many of us who are recognising this truth,but are still a minority who are coming to the same conclusion if they already havnt...can absolutely understand your truth...please don't give up ..and would say more that our scholars who are influential if they are on a true path will recognise your words..I have family and friends who will appreciate...thank you for sharing your human side, a side that's relateable...for our youths it's very important to connect m a world they are experience...wakefulness is challanging....if there are any YouTube links as I'm not on fb anymore to share with my family and friends who are awakening ..thank you...
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    i was interviewed in my home after the manchester bombing last year.

    a short clip,shows my beard only

    https://www.facebook.com/DewsburyAhm...user_video_tab


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    i was interviewed in my home after the manchester bombing last year.

    a short clip,shows my beard only

    https://www.facebook.com/DewsburyAhm...user_video_tab

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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    Dear brother, I'd like to give my help. But I.don't like that Muslim community must be justify them selves each time something happens.
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    launching a new blog
    focusing purely on islah,self/community improvement

    https://tazkiyahenafs.blogspot.co.uk/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarahajar View Post
    Dear brother, I'd like to give my help. But I.don't like that Muslim community must be justify them selves each time something happens.
    only criminals are responsible for their actions,but we must also ponder over our overall spiritual condition.
    i have vast experience in dealing with the media and many other agencies.
    my advices though are sorely heeded,though i have tried to put as much online as possible.

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    http://www.wordshealtheworld.com/wor...h-ahmed-patel/


    my story is on here

    if you are good at online communication,social media etc,then pls join this excellent initiative.they are amazing.


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    https://twitter.com/aim4globalpeace/status/988796529019322368

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/ahmed-patel/extracts-of-a-speech-from-1982-dewsbury-markaz/159447291539040/

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    mosques are not to blame for terrorism

    https://twitter.com/aim4globalpeace/status/988774564938338304

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    Agree, but you can not stop them from blaming

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