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    im 48 and from dewsbury U.K.
    i recently did a bbc interview about 7/7 ,terrorism,community issues


    i dont like divisions in the ummah,all the different labels.

    we believe in one allah s.w.t.
    one prophet muhammad s.a.w. as THE final messenger.
    one ka aba,one direction for salah
    one yearly hajj

    so why so many labels
    why have they been carried over from the subcontinent
    im not going to post them here
    i want to remove the labels,the division,

    do we not agree on enough already
    so can we not agree to disagree on some issues at least

    the ummah is suffering,do i even need to tell you this
    we need unity,hate spreads hate,love overcomes all negatives
    we need tolerance and love to be the victor
    NO ONE WILL RESPECT US UNTIL WE DO NOT RESPECT EACH OTHER

    please teach your children that they are muslim
    not from a certain village,certain "sect",certain "school"

    are you an "i" or will you be a "we"

    on this day friday make an intention to use one label from now on upon yourself..
    MUSLIM..alhamdulillah

    just muslim?..no

    MUSLIM..BY THE GRACE AND MERCY OF ALLAH TAALA

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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    True
    But still, there must be a reason why some people need to use label.. one of em might be to distinguish them from other muslims AHMED PATEL

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    jazakallah for the reply brother
    each to his own
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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    Welcome to the forum.

    Wouldn't it be great if it were? But Iblees has other ideas.

    Wishing you a great stay.


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    jazakallah

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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    mankind is insolence and competition.

    it gets to a point where we are so dependent on chasing our own tails that we cannot offer to chase other people's.

    the only way to make people sit at the same table is to offer free food..

    and hope they are happy with what they are eating.. or who.

    never mind the people..

    this is why imams can't sit together.


    because nobody likes to be raised and lowered..

    ask the lowered.
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    my story

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p047bv99

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37324130

    i deal with and confront 2 major issues..terrorism and grooming gangs
    i believe we should focus on self and community rectification
    i believe over focus on foreign affairs and misprioritisation is problematic
    more later
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    wow.. I'm sorry.

    I know what it feels like to to oppose the status quo..

    let's hope that in future we promote and aid understanding that transgression has no benefit.

    and if we are to oppose the way things are.. let us live our lives doing so.


    may Allah swt have mercy upon us.
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    when muslims constantly talk about syria/palestine they become popular

    if you focus on community problems and issues its the opposite

    introspection takes courage
    moaning and the victim mentality is too popular maybe because its easier
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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    Assalaamu alaikum Ahmed,

    I listened to your interview. You sound very honest and sincere. I am sorry that you and your family had to go through this experience, and I hope that your sister and her child have been able to build a decent life.

    I agree that there is a certain hypocrisy if we talk about all the injustices and problems elsewhere, but are reluctant to look at the problems that we could actually do something about: the ones that are under our noses. Being just and good to those around us, supporting the weak and oppressed around us, is so very important... and yet, how often do we go out of our way to be kind, to stand up for those who need help? How often do we give the help that we could actually give?

    I also agree that discrimination and division is a problem in our Muslim communities. I don't know the state of things in Britain (I am in Canada), but I have noticed around me that there is not one Muslim community, but many. We are divided by the nationalities of the countries where we were born, by the colours of our skins, by our ethnicities, by politics, by our generation, by our religious understandings, by our egos...

    (smile) So I salute you for your wise words. We need mature voices to help guide our young ones.

    May Allah, the Bountiful, Bless those who struggle to improve themselves in order to to do good for others... for the sake of Pleasing God.
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    jazakallah for such kind words

    a request to mods admin and posters,if i disappear for some time it may be because im busy or just need to get back to my personal space for some time

    i am available for radio discussions and global discussions if anyone wishes to arrange that
    ,and will post updates on my blog,facebook,youtube. facebook is temporary ,im too old

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd2..._WgTl5C9X9y8zA

    can someone please confirm if my youtube channel is public..i will be updating it

    inshallah..with the help of allah taala i will be adressing many community issues..ill leave the foreign affairs,politics to others
    i will also discuss parenting in very difficult circumstances
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    Go AHMED PATEL!
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    its a sad world when someone who speaks the truth is maligned.when a victim is further victimised.when an innocent is blamed of damage.and when a destroyer is no longer in the equation.how twisted people twist things to silence truth and justice.how usurpers of rights and wealth are thought of as charitable.how parents are toxic to one but favourable to other siblings.how oppression abroad is highlighted but oppression at home is never discussed or resolved.and so it carries on, the denial by some and the laying of guilt upon others.the truth is powerful,it can never be suppressed.the manipulators can manipulate but truth can never be silenced

    the struggle carries on

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    we have become expert moaners
    but not expert and effective doers
    fights in mosques where others have to calm the situation
    we cannot even run our own homes and mosques properly
    then we moan about others running our lives
    we cannot prevent
    grooming gangs,terrorists,spousal and daughter in law abuse

    is that all we want to be known for?

    yes there is disproportionate reporting
    but do we engage in proportionate and effective measures in our own communities to deal with the cancers and enemies and idiots within
    or are we more bothered about respect and losing that chair ,that platform,that izzat

    http://ahmedpateldewsbury.blogspot.co.uk/


    Brother in-law of 7/7 bomber Mohammad Siddique Khan speaks out

    Ahmed Patel's sister was married to Mohammed Siddique Khan - the ringleader of the group of 4 suicide bombers who were responsible for the 7/7 bombings. Ahmed spoke exclusively to Secunder about what his brother in law was like, about the impact that day has had on his family and crucially how he wants to help in the fight against radicalisation

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    my story

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p047bv99

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37324130

    i deal with and confront 2 major issues..terrorism and grooming gangs
    i believe we should focus on self and community rectification
    i believe over focus on foreign affairs and misprioritisation is problematic
    more later

    .regarding my interview about london 7/7...it was done completely by my own volition,
    i do not represent dewsbury or markaz or any mosque
    i am not a community leader or community spokesperson.
    no one has told me to post on here or my blog or anywhere else

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    im taking a break from the forums
    forgive me for any mistakes on my part
    and all good written was by allahs power alone

    wassalam

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    http://foundation4peace.org/

    inshallah i will be going here tomorrow to discuss how i can work with them
    please make dua for me as the weather is getting worse,i hate the m62 in winter
    i suggest all those brothers and sisters who are able, to do some voluntary work and be positive contributing members of society

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    Re: AHMED PATEL

    The existence of labels is a valid one as Islam does recognize that we belong to different tribes.

    The purpose of said tribes is so that we may recognize each other as being different from one another.

    Allah has indeed created us unique. We have different looks, personalities, tribes ETC.

    That is a good thing, the ummah's diversity and the fact that Islam is now a global religion should be a source of strength for us, not weakness.

    Even so, I agree with you. The current usage of labels in the ummah divides us; and so it is important to remember that when the Muslims battle with the Jews the rocks and trees will call them not by the names "Palestinian" or "Indian".

    They will call them by the name, "Muslim".

    We are one.

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    monday i was at the educate against hate event in bradford
    heard some very sad stories
    and met some great positive pro active people

    also now helping

    http://www.solutionsnotsides.co.uk/

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    new blog post
    more about myself

    i was born, bred and buttered in yorkshire....love the dales.
    i was a typical brit teenager,and a rebel without a pause
    into 80,s pop culture and more,been there done that ..and then some

    done bodybuilding,powerlifting and various mma ...for over 2 decades.
    in 90,s manchester i went places others feared to tread.
    i laughed in the barrel of a shotgun,an armed robber demanding cash
    ive met "interesting" people ,and seen many things in the twilight/shadows of society .

    im no dumb idiot,being physical does not necessarily mean one is not academic or intelligent.
    in school i was grade A and A+..in college the same.my problem!...i debate the term"intelligence"

    i am also spiritual and have been for many years.an old school friend says im a DRUID

    in islam there is a hadith..the fighter is not the one who can hurt people..but he is one who can control his anger.

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