before I kept everything to myself but now I'm openly defying Islam and mocking it without remorse, I don't want to but it happens when we are discussing Islam at uni
Seems like you lost more than faith..seems you lost some human decency as well. Why mock something you don't understand? Lots of those who don't believe in religion like to argue that they don't need religion to have morals..so where are yours? Or is it of good morals to be disrespectful towards other's beliefs? At the very least, following islam would iron that out for you.
Now with the many topics that you've presented, it seems your issue is ignorance and somewhat of an anger problem. So if we explained these things to you, will you believe or will something else be holding you back as well? Because I haven't seen any enlightening responses from you thus far other than threats to leave the religion or this "chat". Have you actually put any effort in finding legitimate answers to your questions? If so, what do you know so far?
And why do you not want to be created? It seems that you're angry about something that triggered all of this, and that there's more here than meets the eye.
your exit strategy was predicted. We see many like you come and go when they cannot prove their point and instead make appeals to emotion and their escapist strategy was no different to yours.
Remember this experience - you aint as smart as you claimed you was cupcake. You didn't prove even one point, bought no evidence to the table and didn't even entertain our proofs - instead all you did was put your hands over your ears and shut your eyes didn't you?
Your ignorance doesn't serve you, it only makes you look stupid, while you stroke your ego to feel better. Sad. Pathetic even.
If you truly seek Guidance from Allah then ask the questions that give you doubt, right now.
One by one. We will, in shaa' Allah, answer them all.
Allahu alam
Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
" Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "
Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.
I get you& will be more than willing to help you understand, InshaALLAH
Avoid these negative people there are many practicing amongst us & turn people towards hell.
I have thought alot on why are we created etc&what if we will be in hell?
May ALLAH protect me!
Simple answer is-hell exists....i Iisted proofs of it in 2009 Aug&suffered fearful episodes ,so if I can find that article, will post it .
So,when it exists, we beg ALLAH & cry & do deeds that Pleases Him .
You know these tyrants,kings of world,they punish in prisons,torture cells so ALLAH Ta'ala, The Greatest King&Most Just only Punishes because of some real reasons.Not a least bit He is Unjust for hereafter!
ALLAH Ta'ala is "Most Merciful" without a doubt .Don't be so reluctant to turn to Him&find out about Him but from good people
If you discuss Islam at uni ,then there are very bad brats all over who actually "DON'T WANT" to accept Islam or turn others away .The fact you are here&sticking to vdos on YouTube lectures etc shows something! InshaALLAH
Again,take your time & make Du'a at midnight to ALLAH Ta'ala, to show you a sign or signs .....
You wll be amazed!
This is my personal experience & with intellect & research, I found Islam &through fear of hereafter.
May ALLAH show you a beautiful sign from Him to prove to you about His Mercy on you& Islam's Truth & evil company that you associate with!
I've been reading dozens of threads on this forum relating to my problem over the course of the last several years, only today I've created a thread of my own.I have also watched hundreds of hours of Islamic lectures online and they don't sit with me well at all.why did Allah create me, knowing that I would eventually disbelieve a thus thrown me into hell? I didn't ask to be created!how can a man claiming to be a prophet marry a 9 year old? isn't that paedophilia? what's the justification? (no justification imo at all)Also his claims of splitting the moon in two ? as well as 'ascending' to heaven on a flying horse? what about his(and other sahaba/caliphates) orders of stoning various people for various 'crimes' such as adultery? why couldn't he leave it to allah instead?
perhaps you've read filthy books or articles or have watched lectures of atheists..? All Qs can be addressed here if you are sincere to know the answers and believe in Islam but if you've already decided that you will not try to understand and if you are reluctant to accept that you can be wrong then none can convince you in the entire world
I know what you're getting at but I don't think I actually do, before I kept everything to myself but now I'm openly defying Islam and mocking it without remorse, I don't want to but it happens when we are discussing Islam at uniI've come t the conclusion that belief is not a choice, I have tried my very best to no avail.
this is your fault that you didn't study Islam and nor practiced upon it sincerely. It was your duty to convince your friends at uni instead of being confused or misled by them.
where did I say I don't believe in god? I believe in a creator, just not Islam and its interpretation.aren't you going t address my questions? if not then I guess Islam and me are going to part ways, for good.
do you abide by the laws of your country or defy the laws..? If you defy, will you be punished or not ? If you are punished and sent into jail, then, is it justice or cruelty ?
My dear sis, while I respect your persistence and patience in helping this person, Allahu Alem where his intentions lie; he could be a troll for all we know. For someone who is a student at a university, I would have expected some maturity and etiquette in his interactions here, especially when he is coming to get some answers for his own benefit. Instead, we have someone with juvenile behavior who boasts mocking a religion and his demand for answers all while being relentlessly whiny. So with that being said, anyone who is seeking help/advice/answers needs to humble himself somewhat at least to be open to receiving the message that so many of us put our hearts and time into. Even nonMuslims come here with some knowledge and formable arguments, so why is he unlearned?? I guess that university education is out the window.
My dear sis, while I respect your persistence and patience in helping this person, Allahu Alem where his intentions lie; he could be a troll for all we know. For someone who is a student at a university, I would have expected some maturity and etiquette in his interactions here, especially when he is coming to get some answers for his own benefit. Instead, we have someone with juvenile behavior who boasts mocking a religion and his demand for answers all while being relentlessly whiny. So with that being said, anyone who is seeking help/advice/answers needs to humble himself somewhat at least to be open to receiving the message that so many of us put our hearts and time into. Even nonMuslims come here with some knowledge and formable arguments, so why is he unlearned?? I guess that university education is out the window.
do you abide by the laws of your country or defy the laws..? If you defy, will you be punished or not ? If you are punished and sent into jail, then, is it justice or cruelty ?
Well if you break the rules in the uk, you're not stoned to death for sure
I used to hate the fact that i was not like everyone else, who simply accepted islam without question. Now i don't really care that i've apostated - i no longer fear the prospect of hell or Allah.
You read my post ?
#26
I'm Paki&know brats in Unis etc.
These people are very superior maybe, born into hi Fi Muslims families.,bred with Deen ,that's why no conduct or kindness even many repel kuffar let alone you or others. ....there are many questioning like you & there's a thing called Duhayma fitan..... It's happening to whole Ummah!
Discuss with me or
@Serinity
.....InshaALLAH, we will try to answer you but first do what I asked you !
I'm myself amazed how many practicing Muslims turns out whereas we didn't know in schools a single practicing Muslim&nor families not society.
Then what's understood by word Ghurabaa? "Strangers" as Narrated in Hadeeth.
Islam is strange,its similar stage of earliest generation &so are we!
There are only few of the few true Muslims who practice Deen&are knowledgeable in its proofs-grounded in knowledge.
There's nothing like blind faith-It has nothing to do with ISLAM
your exit strategy was predicted. We see many like you come and go when they cannot prove their point and instead make appeals to emotion and their escapist strategy was no different to yours.
Remember this experience - you aint as smart as you claimed you was cupcake. You didn't prove even one point, bought no evidence to the table and didn't even entertain our proofs - instead all you did was put your hands over your ears and shut your eyes didn't you?
Your ignorance doesn't serve you, it only makes you look stupid, while you stroke your ego to feel better. Sad. Pathetic even.
So I guess it's Good bye to Bad rubbish eh?
Scimi
know muslims and they always mock the unbelievers and other religions ---.
I thought the thread title had already made it clear that i am no longer muslim, so i was not 'threatening' to leave the religion as i've already left... 4 years ago as already stated. I said i would leave the thread as some people are just plain rude
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Reason: language please!
your exit strategy was predicted. We see many like you come and go when they cannot prove their point and instead make appeals to emotion and their escapist strategy was no different to yours.
Remember this experience - you aint as smart as you claimed you was cupcake. You didn't prove even one point, bought no evidence to the table and didn't even entertain our proofs - instead all you did was put your hands over your ears and shut your eyes didn't you?
Your ignorance doesn't serve you, it only makes you look stupid, while you stroke your ego to feel better. Sad. Pathetic even.
So I guess it's Good bye to Bad rubbish eh?
Scimi
No, you yourself come across as arogant as well as intimidating.
Why don't you answer my questions without asking other questions?
And what i meant was that i am not convinced by what i've seen or read, i didn't claim i know it all! Again you are jumping to conclusions like a fool.
I may not be the smartest person around, but that's not my fault as Allah created me that way... remember?
These people are very superior maybe, born into hi Fi Muslims families.,bred with Deen ,that's why no conduct or kindness even many repel kuffar let alone you or others. ....there are many questioning like you & there's a thing called Duhayma fitan..... It's happening to whole Ummah!
Discuss with me or
@Serinity
.....InshaALLAH, we will try to answer you but first do what I asked you !
I'm myself amazed how many practicing Muslims turns out whereas we didn't know in schools a single practicing Muslim&nor families not society.
Then what's understood by word Ghurabaa? "Strangers" as Narrated in Hadeeth.
Islam is strange,its similar stage of earliest generation &so are we!
There are only few of the few true Muslims who practice Deen&are knowledgeable in its proofs-grounded in knowledge.
There's nothing like blind faith-It has nothing to do with ISLAM
However you should ask in decent manner ....from where you're coming from & Duhayma fitan attacking everyone in Ummah,your victimised .....due to it .
And that's what you should think before posting .....you know respectfully ,InshaALLAH
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