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    Decline of the Ottoman Empire


    Salaam

    Very interesting.

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    Not to forget the weakest empire when we talk about Islamic principles compared to other Islamic Empires. This shows again ..you go away from Islamic principles Allah will humiliate you. They came..they embraced Islam..but slowly doing this that were not Islamic and in the end this giving way to self destruct.

    Very interesting video.
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    Sad how they declined.

    I can't wait to see the decline of America because of what they do.

    Allahu alam.
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    Re: Decline of the Ottoman Empire


    Quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post


    Sad how they declined.

    I can't wait to see the decline of America because of what they do.

    Allahu alam.
    Brother, do be VERY careful what you are saying. Because Ottoman empire was on a TOTALLY different level as US. When US collapses, the world collapses. Based on what? Right now, the US Dollar is seen as a international currency. In the past it was backed by gold, so even if the currency would be harmed, there is always the backup of gold making it still not risky. Right now it is backed up by "thin air". If the currency collapses, well good luck collecting thin air.

    I am myself NOT a economic analyst and don't know what they know, but i have basic brain funcitonality and i see things going the wrong way.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/10/there...mist-says.html


    Dollar - British Pound - (1971 - 2016)



    Euro - Dollar - (2003- 2017)



    The question is, the economic collapse back in 2008 has happened that was already almost 9 years ago. HOW come it is still in decline? The MOST scary thing is, NOBODY is talking about, one has to do his own research. I mean me, just google for it in less than 10 minutes you find the data.

    You judge this yourself.
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    The decline of the Ottoman Empire was the decline of the Islamic Union. Today Muslims dont have such a Union, good or bad. But any decline of the American Empire will be the decline of their socio-economic hegemonia as well. Its true that all the world economies are dependant on Dollar and Euro and Euro is on Dollar indirectly but the question, is it a good thing? Better we go on like that or should we get rid off Dolar's hegemonia? If you were able to creat your independent economies you would not be effected by any Dollar based crisis

    America and Ottoman Empire cannot be confused. They had different motivations and goals but you can compare it to the Roman Empire. American Empire is the new Roman Empire with all their intentions, motivations and goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    The decline of the Ottoman Empire was the decline of the Islamic Union. Today Muslims dont have such a Union, good or bad. But any decline of the American Empire will be the decline of their socio-economic hegemonia as well. Its true that all the world economies are dependant on Dollar and Euro and Euro is on Dollar indirectly but the question, is it a good thing? Better we go on like that or should we get rid off Dolar's hegemonia? If you were able to creat your independent economies you would not be effected by any Dollar based crisis
    To build something a foundation first needs to be created. Paper money in Islam is NOT money. The world today is filled with corruption of all kind of corrupt ideas from business ideas to entertainment to what is food now a days and what are moral values. So far looking at it because there are SOO MANY people out there that would want to uphold this corrupt view, i so far can only conclude destruction needs to take place that wipes out A LOT of people. Because it is nearly impossible to have many people let go of habits that destroy their own self as well as society as a whole.

    So to go to gold and silver, also moral values need to be changed, but also the mentality of the people. This all starts with truly worship of Allah. When one is convinced of that fact, all the rest becomes worthless in ones eyes and one can easily let go of things that drive people now a days. (Greed, lust, jealousy, envy, hatred etc.). However there are people in high positions that control the masses to follow certain way. These people need to be getting rid of so to say. Whatever happens a economic collapse is inevitable based on the current data. That is also the start of chaos and anarchy especially in countries where people ONLY think of themselves.

    This is a good music video that shows the current way of things going on and if that is not dajjal, then i am blind as blind can be. People in flocks joining him..against corruption and those world leaders etc..



    Not even hiding it that he is dajjal =_=!..

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    I'd definitely want an Islamic State. We'll just establish our own currency. We should establish the worship of one God, Allah . Unless we unite upon Tawheed, we won't succeed.

    Allahu alam.
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    Salaam

    Rare video from the Ottoman empire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person View Post
    This is a good music video that shows the current way of things going on and if that is not dajjal, then i am blind as blind can be. People in flocks joining him..against corruption and those world leaders etc..
    World is ruled by some gun barons. They are the same people who provide guns to all opposing militarist groups all over the World. Dollar economy is based on two things, oil and gun. They shoot two birds with one rock by promoting those conflicts in the oil rich regions.
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    Tribute to the State with some scenes from WW1, their final battle..

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    Re: Decline of the Ottoman Empire


    When we look at our history we see many great achievements that we have accomplished in the past as well as how we fell from grace!

    I do however feel that we forget that the Islamic empires/Caliphates of the past catered not just for Muslims but non Muslims too, where Christian and Jewish communities successfully lived side by side with Muslims.

    When we look at the world today and the wealthy countries in particular being dependent upon a financial system built on greed doused match sticks,it won't be long before they go up in flames and take their followers with them.

    I personally don't think that we should merely reminisce about the old days rather it is imperative that we return to what made us and our fellow non Muslims great, allowed us to live in harmony with one another, bringing economic justice to many and not line the pockets of the few.

 

 
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