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We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you all,

    You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God, see the first name of Allah.

    1الرَّحْمَنُAR-RAHMAANThe Most or Entirely MercifulAllah, Ar-Rahmaan, bestows His Mercy (Rahmah) upon all the creatures in this universe.

    In the spirit of praying for justice for all people,

    Eric
    Assalamualaikum brother Eric

    I have noticed u on various forums. I just had a quick question. Don't be offended. I was wondering why haven't u reverted yet?

    Allah has showed u the true path, nd now u have to make a choice.

    If u have any confusion about islam, u may get it cleared. No offence pls.

    May Allah reward u
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    format_quote Originally Posted by Avis View Post
    You're not making sense. How can it be racist of Muslims to hate Jews for their beliefs? Who cares what Westerners think, we as Muslims should hate anyone who practices evil and we should hate their false beliefs. It doesn't make us racist in any way. If anyone says otherwise, they're just trying to put Muslims down by playing with words.

    As for Jews, they like to think they're special because of their race, when in fact, the only thing that is special is how evil they are. The Anti-Semitic card is their go to in order to shut people up why they shed the truth upon their evil actions. Their race is no different to Palestinians, who are mostly descendants of Jews. Do we hate Palestinian Muslims because they come from the same lineage? No.

    Again to make it clear- It is not racist to hate people for their evil actions and disbelief in the Creator and their rejection of Islam. Doesn't matter what group of people they are, doesn't matter what they say, there is nothing wrong with it. Anyone who uses the "Racist!" card is just lacks intelligence and has nothing worthwhile to say.
    Ok, I understand your point. It’s about religion, saying the name of someone’s ethnicity is to point out they’re not Muslim, it actually has nothing to do with them being of that ethnicity. It’s like when people were saying the British attacks people and people were hating them. People didn’t hate the British for being British, they were not liking them for their actions. Most ethnic conflicts isn’t about ethnicity, it’s about politics and other matters so it’s nor racist in certain contexts to dislike an ethnic group. It’s actually quite similar to the Muslims not liking Jews or other ethnic groups not because they belong to them, rather because of disbelief. Can Muslims say they hate black people not because they are black but because most of them are not Muslim? If not, why say that about Jews and Hindus and England?
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    Greetings and peace be with you user123name;
    Don't be offended. I was wondering why haven't u reverted yet?
    Thanks for your concern, and no. I am not offended. I came to this forum fifteen years ago in the hope of understanding how interfaith relations might work. I have come to understand that my Muslim brothers and sisters have a profound faith in Islam, especially now as we are about to enter Ramadan.

    I have experienced a number of events that should have ended in death or serious injury. Faith and trust in God found healing; so all I can say is that God works in mysterious ways.

    In the spirit of praying for justice for all people,
    Eric
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you user123name;


    Thanks for your concern, and no. I am not offended. I came to this forum fifteen years ago in the hope of understanding how interfaith relations might work. I have come to understand that my Muslim brothers and sisters have a profound faith in Islam, especially now as we are about to enter Ramadan.

    I have experienced a number of events that should have ended in death or serious injury. Faith and trust in God found healing; so all I can say is that God works in mysterious ways.

    In the spirit of praying for justice for all people,
    Eric
    Assalamualaikum
    I know ur belief is absolutely correct. I was just asking why haven't u reverted to islam yet?
    I have this feeling that u believe in Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and Quran too.
    There is just a border of reverting between u and islam.
    M not forcing u tho. just asking

    May Allah reward u.
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hope1995 View Post
    Ok, I understand your point. It’s about religion, saying the name of someone’s ethnicity is to point out they’re not Muslim, it actually has nothing to do with them being of that ethnicity. It’s like when people were saying the British attacks people and people were hating them. People didn’t hate the British for being British, they were not liking them for their actions. Most ethnic conflicts isn’t about ethnicity, it’s about politics and other matters so it’s nor racist in certain contexts to dislike an ethnic group. It’s actually quite similar to the Muslims not liking Jews or other ethnic groups not because they belong to them, rather because of disbelief. Can Muslims say they hate black people not because they are black but because most of them are not Muslim? If not, why say that about Jews and Hindus and England?
    Practically this is not true. While some muslims might hate hinduism for it's ridiculous animal worshipping religion that belongs in the stone age, most muslims, even most religious conservative muslims don't hate people for what religion they follow.

    For example, while I believe christianity is a fake religion created by the Roman empire, I don't hate it. I don't Judaism. I generally don't HATE most religions. And majority of religious muslims you will converse with will have same response. Except Salafists.

    If you ask any religious muslim just quickly answer why they hate the West (IF they do, which is a major IF), and the fastest answer will be Iraq Invasion, Afghanistan Invasion, Crusades, Colonialism, forced Liberalism. And after all that you may find some people saying it's because of the Trinity.

    Every conflict is political, even the religious ones.
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    format_quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    Practically this is not true. While some muslims might hate hinduism for it's ridiculous animal worshipping religion that belongs in the stone age, most muslims, even most religious conservative muslims don't hate people for what religion they follow.

    For example, while I believe christianity is a fake religion created by the Roman empire, I don't hate it. I don't Judaism. I generally don't HATE most religions. And majority of religious muslims you will converse with will have same response. Except Salafists.

    If you ask any religious muslim just quickly answer why they hate the West (IF they do, which is a major IF), and the fastest answer will be Iraq Invasion, Afghanistan Invasion, Crusades, Colonialism, forced Liberalism. And after all that you may find some people saying it's because of the Trinity.

    Every conflict is political, even the religious ones.
    I get what you say to a point.
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    Greetings and peace be with you Hope1995;

    Most ethnic conflicts isn’t about ethnicity, it’s about politics and other matters
    It is always our leaders who take us to war, there is a formula to incite people that has been known for thousands of years. The leaders are always the main benefactors from war; so they have an incentive. People on both sides suffer, so the common man on both sides do not want war.

    Herman Goering clearly spells out how gullible we are and our leaders are still using this today.

    “Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or fascist dictorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/335...war-why-should
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hope1995 View Post
    I get what you say to a point.
    and what are your disagreements?
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    format_quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    and what are your disagreements?
    It was God that helped us.
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hope1995 View Post
    It was God that helped us.
    To do what?
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hope1995 View Post
    Many things.
    Without God , u can't do anything.
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    format_quote Originally Posted by user123name View Post
    Without God , u can't do anything.
    I don’t know if God exists at times or not, that’s why I say that. I’m an agnostic/freethinker.
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hope1995 View Post
    I don’t know if God exists at times or not, that’s why I say that. I’m an agnostic/freethinker.
    Think about the creation of universe. How did it all start? U might know the big bang theory. It all started with a very ,very small dot like thing. Where did it come from.. Of course, There must be a Supreme Power who might have made it.
    Islam and science are so much related to each other.
    Nd yes, God is always with us. He is closer to us than our jugular vein (50:16).
    Mankind was created of haste (21:37).
    That is why, we just want our works to be done before time. We can't remain patient.
    Nd God does not burden a soul with what it cannot bear (2:286). God gives us those trials in which we can be patient , it's always according to our tendency.

    May Allah guide u.
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    format_quote Originally Posted by user123name View Post
    Think about the creation of universe. How did it all start? U might know the big bang theory. It all started with a very ,very small dot like thing. Where did it come from.. Of course, There must be a Supreme Power who might have made it.
    Islam and science are so much related to each other.
    Nd yes, God is always with us. He is closer to us than our jugular vein (50:16).
    Mankind was created of haste (21:37).
    That is why, we just want our works to be done before time. We can't remain patient.
    Nd God does not burden a soul with what it cannot bear (2:286). God gives us those trials in which we can be patient , it's always according to our tendency.

    May Allah guide u.
    You do make a point because what was before the Big Bang is important.
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    Re: We Will Never Unite With The Rafidah - Shaykh Ahmad Musa Jibril

    Greetings and peace be with you Hope1995;

    You do make a point because what was before the Big Bang is important.
    You need to spend many sleepless nights pondering that question. There are only two choices, something did not have any beginning, or something did not come from anything. Both these answers need magic they defy science and reason as we know it.

    Call it particle X, how could it have no beginning, how could it just pop into existence when nothing existed before?

    In the spirit of searching for God,

    Eric
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    Some Palestinians claim to be Israelites, most don’t. How are they Israelites?
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