Ok seriously... and please dont laugh at me... but do you think its bad to memorize them in english?
the only reason i ask is because i have been trying to learn a language for wow a lot longer then i want to admit and i just cant get that down... (really i am not very good at it at all) i dont think i could cut it with Arabic... Its got more complicated sounds then Bosnian does and I cant even say those (crying)
Ok yeah sorry it sounds so stupid i just cant grasp the non-english thing. (crying)
Ok seriously... and please dont laugh at me... but do you think its bad to memorize them in english?
the only reason i ask is because i have been trying to learn a language for wow a lot longer then i want to admit and i just cant get that down... (really i am not very good at it at all) i dont think i could cut it with Arabic... Its got more complicated sounds then Bosnian does and I cant even say those (crying)
Ok yeah sorry it sounds so stupid i just cant grasp the non-english thing. (crying)
Don't worry. You don't sound stupid. English transliteration is OK. I have a tajweed Qur'an with the english transliteration on one side for each side of arabic. But it's not great. Some of the letters can't be sounded (or rather spelt) in english. That's the only problem. If you know of any sisters that can help you read the Arabic script with the correct pronounciation, that would be great. It's quite easy once you get the hang of it.
‘Say: If the ocean were ink wherewith to write out the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted, even if We added another ocean like it.’~Al Qu'raan (18:109)
My husband says Arabic is easy to read too (he knows quite a bit of the Koran) but I cant even get the language i am trying to learn (bosnian) he has been trying to teach me for OVER a year... he has been sooooooooo paient and kind...(i can write)
The problem is i get too nervous and then i cant hear right and i start to studder... (even sometimes in english) which makes me worry i will make it even worse in another language. I dont know... Sometimes i just feel a little stupid... Do you think its less meaningful if i can only say/memorize in english?
You mean english transliteration rather than translation right? Well... I'm not a scholar, so I'm not qualified to say... but Qur'an as a miracle is only Qur'an in it's original arabic form. English letters can be very misleading in other languages. See if your husband can teach you... if you still can't get it, then you can switch back to english, but then at least you've tried, inshaAllah.
‘Say: If the ocean were ink wherewith to write out the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted, even if We added another ocean like it.’~Al Qu'raan (18:109)
I think recite to a local hafidah or another sister that you know. As for group leaders, they're not confirmed yet. We're trying to get all those that said 'yes' sorted into appropriate groups first.
inshallah, i think that could be arranged...in that case
juzz 3amma doing 5 ayahs a day.
other questions: can we change teh number of ayahs we memorize a day if foe eg we have trouble with memorizing the amount we originally stipulated?
format_quote Originally Posted by Grofica
Ok seriously... and please dont laugh at me... but do you think its bad to memorize them in english?
the only reason i ask is because i have been trying to learn a language for wow a lot longer then i want to admit and i just cant get that down... (really i am not very good at it at all) i dont think i could cut it with Arabic... Its got more complicated sounds then Bosnian does and I cant even say those (crying)
Ok yeah sorry it sounds so stupid i just cant grasp the non-english thing. (crying)
no, not stupid =) ummm even though you have trouble learning Arabic, please do make the effort to learn...it is so worth it.
The best way to learn is to associate with those that can speak it fluently. and since we are referring to the quran i advice you to associate with those who speak it in the fus7ah (classical Arabic) becuase the only other choice you have to to listen to the people speak in their own dialects which wont help as it aint the fus7ah...so what i suggest is to listen to lectures in Arabic as much as you can (even though you dont understand them) and also listen to recitations of the quran so at the very least you can pronouce the letters correctly...dont worry so much about the meaning or grammer just yet... maybe also you can contemplate on taking a basic arabic class or something?
...desperate for husnul-khitaam...
please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.
^ My fusha arabic teacher said very few people speak proper fusha, because of it's level of high formality and grammar rules. One you think you can master the rules of arabic grammar and have enough vocab, you can start reading bookes like Stories of the Prophets by Ibn Kathir. That's what I'm hoping to do inshaAllah.
‘Say: If the ocean were ink wherewith to write out the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted, even if We added another ocean like it.’~Al Qu'raan (18:109)
you mean we dont have to start from juzz 3amma? becuase im already *trying to* memorize juzz tabaarak but i thought if we havnt memorized juzz 3amma then we start with that?
...desperate for husnul-khitaam...
please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.
There's 3 levels, sister. Level one is Juz Amma, Level 2 is Tabaraak.
It's a fun Juz, or at least I think so. There's Mulk, Mudatthir and Muzammil (which I LOVE), and then there's Insaan. Whenever I recite that to my mother, I always ask her Insaan or Dahr. (They're both the same thing, just different names LOL)... I love the last two.
Though, my memorization was a bit off. Here's how it was: 30, 29, 1-18, 28-19. Weird, eh? lol
If you already know juz 3amma and juz tabaraak but you prefer to start from juz 3amma or juz tabaraak just for revison is that okay? I already know juz 3amma and juz tabaraak
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1) If you do not go after what you want, you will never have it
2) If you don't ask, the answer will always be no.
3) If you do not step forward, you'll always be in the same place
you mean we dont have to start from juzz 3amma? becuase im already *trying to* memorize juzz tabaarak but i thought if we havnt memorized juzz 3amma then we start with that?
Well if you've already started Juz 'Amma on your own, then maybe it's best if you complete it first?
If you haven't started it, but have started Tabaarak, then sure get in to level 2. It's not a good idea to leave off where you already are.
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If you already know juz 3amma and juz tabaraak but you prefer to start from juz 3amma or juz tabaraak just for revison is that okay? I already know juz 3amma and juz tabaraak
If you've already done both, I'd suggest getting into Level 3. But if you want to stick to revising it (at the pace of the memorizers) than you can do that too.
“Do not argue with your Lord on behalf of your soul, rather argue with your soul on behalf of your Lord.” - Dhul-Nun
"It is the very pursuit of happiness that thwarts happiness." - Victor Frankl
Well if you've already started Juz 'Amma on your own, then maybe it's best if you complete it first?
If you haven't started it, but have started Tabaarak, then sure get in to level 2. It's not a good idea to leave off where you already are.
let me try to make myself clear: a long while back I memorized both juzz's (finished juzz 3amma stopped in the middle of juzz tabaarak), I've practically forgotten both due to my laziness so recently i decided to revise or rather re-memorize them, starting from juzz tabaarak simply becuase it's stayed in my memory better. So since i picked up from Juzz Tabarak again, i want to start from it here with 5 ayahs a day.
i hope i am making sense...
...desperate for husnul-khitaam...
please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.
let me try to make myself clear: a long while back I memorized both juzz's (finished juzz 3amma stopped in the middle of juzz tabaarak), I've practically forgotten both due to my laziness so recently i decided to revise or rather re-memorize them, starting from juzz tabaarak simply becuase it's stayed in my memory better. So since i picked up from Juzz Tabarak again, i want to start from it here with 5 ayahs a day.
i hope i am making sense...
Sounds good. I'm putting you down for Level 2, 5 ayaat per day.
“Do not argue with your Lord on behalf of your soul, rather argue with your soul on behalf of your Lord.” - Dhul-Nun
"It is the very pursuit of happiness that thwarts happiness." - Victor Frankl
one serious question that have been in my mind....
I read about this memorization project everywhere here, so I am kinda lost here :blind:
and I read here in the thread that we are starting after Ramadan, so technically will we be posting on those three levels sections after Ramadan?
because I already start memorizing or lets say I just resumed my memorizing
AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu
I have been doing 2-3 verses a day. And the problem im having is after like 4-5 days, i have learnt roughly 12 verses. But then as i go further, i forget the verses in between.
What shall i do to remember the verses in between?
AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu
I have been doing 2-3 verses a day. And the problem im having is after like 4-5 days, i have learnt roughly 12 verses. But then as i go further, i forget the verses in between.
What shall i do to remember the verses in between?
FiAmaaniAllah
keep revising bro. you have to keep revising all your life, otherwise you forget. this is very normal. the limit of non revising period after you start forgetting depends on how well you have memorised, your long term memory as well as to some extent on the time passed since you memorized. in some sense, the longer the time passed, more likely are you to retain it. its sort of like you remember your childhood things well.
Good luck.
one serious question that have been in my mind....
I read about this memorization project everywhere here, so I am kinda lost here :blind:
and I read here in the thread that we are starting after Ramadan, so technically will we be posting on those three levels sections after Ramadan?
because I already start memorizing or lets say I just resumed my memorizing
1) Starting officialy after Ramadan.
2) I'll be updating those sections today and in the next few days insha Allaah.
3) If you've already started memorizing, that's perfectly fine! You can join in with the groups when it starts after Ramadan insha'Allaah.
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AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu
I have been doing 2-3 verses a day. And the problem im having is after like 4-5 days, i have learnt roughly 12 verses. But then as i go further, i forget the verses in between.
What shall i do to remember the verses in between?
FiAmaaniAllah
That's something that happens to all of us. The way I learned to tackle this problem was to memorize with a Qari. Choose a qari that you like to listen to and listen to the surah recited by him many times until you pick up the tune. Then you can memorize to the tune.
The Qur'an is primarily an oral tradition so really the only way to properly get it down is to listen to it over and over and recite the verses yourself as many times as necessary.
Another way is to understand what the ayaat are saying. Notice I didn't say memorize the translation - that is inefficient and a waste of time. Focus on understanding what is being said and that may help you remember.
Another thing is consistency and gradual steps. Think of a child, first he tries to stand - how many times does he fall down before he can finally stand up? How many times more before he can properly walk? So take it easy, don't 'burn out', don't allow yourself to get bored, and keep consistent, even if you're memorizing a single verse per day, make sure you're consistent at it. It's always quality over quantity. Insha'Allaah, in due time you'll be able to memorize pages a day!
And lastly, revision, revision, revision. Memorization is the easy part, believe it or not. Many aspiring hufadh fail because they don't have a balance between memorization and revision. For every ayah you memorize, make sure to revise what you've memorized before. Revision is key.
“Do not argue with your Lord on behalf of your soul, rather argue with your soul on behalf of your Lord.” - Dhul-Nun
"It is the very pursuit of happiness that thwarts happiness." - Victor Frankl
I've been memorizing more of Juz 'Amma, but I do not know the principles of tajweed yet (I know a few rules, but not all). I really want to finish memorizing this juz by the time my kids are born in March (insha'Allah). Is it a good idea to memorize without proper tajweed knowledge? I always check myself by listening to Mishary recite and usually base my recitation off of his (the best I can anyways).
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so recently i decided to revise or rather re-memorize them, starting from juzz tabaarak simply becuase it's stayed in my memory better. So since i picked up from Juzz Tabarak again, i want to start from it here with 5 ayahs a day.
or lets say I just resumed my memorizing
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