× Register Login What's New! Contact us
Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    handhuvar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    72
    Threads
    3
    Reputation
    34
    Rep Power
    83
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Help Me Plssssssssss

    Report bad ads?



    CAN U PLS TELL ME THE MEANING OF
    " you feel the stick is generally more effective than the carrot"

    i need this very soon

  2. Report bad ads?
  3. #2
    Anette's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Sweden
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    166
    Threads
    15
    Reputation
    601
    Rep Power
    84
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Re: Help Me Plssssssssss

    Quote Originally Posted by handhuvar View Post


    CAN U PLS TELL ME THE MEANING OF
    " you feel the stick is generally more effective than the carrot"

    i need this very soon
    I think it have to do with that a force to do something because you simple have to do it or else some consequence (the stick) ... is better then one that is rewarded with encouragement (the carrot) to do something.

    Hope it could be of some help

  4. #3
    handhuvar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    72
    Threads
    3
    Reputation
    34
    Rep Power
    83
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Re: Help Me Plssssssssss

    Quote Originally Posted by Anette View Post
    I think it have to do with that a force to do something because you simple have to do it or else some consequence (the stick) ... is better then one that is rewarded with encouragement (the carrot) to do something.

    Hope it could be of some help


    thanx for ur help :thankyou:

  5. #4
    - Qatada -'s Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    ...travelling to the hereafter..
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    11,306
    Threads
    791
    Reputation
    61944
    Rep Power
    129
    Likes (Given)
    18
    Likes (Received)
    510

    Re: Help Me Plssssssssss




    Yeah.. like some people believe that beating someone up for not doing an action is more effective than giving them reward for doing that good action.



    There are three things in psychology:


    Positive Reinforcement: This is when someone does a good act, so they end up with a reward for that good action. For example, if a child gets good marks in his school work - they may get money as a reward.


    Negative Reinforcement:
    This may be a form of punishment, but it only occurs if that person doesn't do the good action. So if a person doesn't do well at school - they get punished for it, so instead - the child works harder to do that good act.


    Punishment:
    This is used to force a person to do that good act, otherwise they are waiting for a punishment. So the child may get forced to do some act, otherwise they are already warned of a severe punishment from their parent. It's really similar to negative reinforcement.




    So the saying above is saying that Negative reinforcement and Punishment is better off than Positive Reinforcement.


    Allaah Almighty knows best.



  6. Report bad ads?
  7. #5
    Woodrow's Avatar
    Woodrow is offline
    May Allah have mercy on him رحمة الله عليه

    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Grant County, Minnesota
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    17,217
    Threads
    244
    Reputation
    163074
    Rep Power
    180
    Likes (Given)
    177
    Likes (Received)
    695

    Re: Help Me Plssssssssss

    Quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post



    Yeah.. like some people believe that beating someone up for not doing an action is more effective than giving them reward for doing that good action.



    There are three things in psychology:


    Positive Reinforcement: This is when someone does a good act, so they end up with a reward for that good action. For example, if a child gets good marks in his school work - they may get money as a reward.


    Negative Reinforcement:
    This may be a form of punishment, but it only occurs if that person doesn't do the good action. So if a person doesn't do well at school - they get punished for it, so instead - the child works harder to do that good act.


    Punishment:
    This is used to force a person to do that good act, otherwise they are waiting for a punishment. So the child may get forced to do some act, otherwise they are already warned of a severe punishment from their parent. It's really similar to negative reinforcement.




    So the saying above is saying that Negative reinforcement and Punishment is better off than Positive Reinforcement.


    Allaah Almighty knows best.

    Sorry, but as an old retired psychologist I always get upset over the common misunderstandings of what is meant by negative reinfocement.

    Reinforcement is anything that will elicit a response

    Punishment is anything that will cause a response to cease

    Positive reinforcement is the addition of something that will ellicit the response.

    Negative reinfocement is the removal of something that will elicit the response

    Positive punishment is the addition of something that will cause a response to cease

    Negative punishment is the removal of something that will cause the response to cease.

    When I was running rats in experimental psych the best example of negative reinfocement was to train a rat to go to a specific corner of the cage. This was done by electrifying the bottom of the cage so the rat was constantly shocked. When the rat approached the desired corner, the current would be turned off. The rat was trained to go to that same corner all the time through negative reinforcement. The negative part was the removal of the shock. the action being reinforced was the going to the specific corner.

    I apologise for the intrusion on the thread. But, the old Psychologist, just could not let that misconception go on.
    Help Me Plssssssssss




  8. #6
    - Qatada -'s Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    ...travelling to the hereafter..
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    11,306
    Threads
    791
    Reputation
    61944
    Rep Power
    129
    Likes (Given)
    18
    Likes (Received)
    510

    Re: Help Me Plssssssssss




    loll jazak Allaahu khayr uncle woodrow! i was kinda confused myself so jazak Allah khayr for clarifying that



  9. #7
    Yanal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    6,056
    Threads
    160
    Reputation
    4468
    Rep Power
    85
    Likes (Given)
    13
    Likes (Received)
    57

    Re: Help Me Plssssssssss

    I recommend asking the rabbit around here(Muezzin) pm him and see

  10. #8
    sevgi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    On Stage
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    1,833
    Threads
    51
    Reputation
    11817
    Rep Power
    88
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    5

    Re: Help Me Plssssssssss

    lol...

    its a four legged analogy...

    u either encourage it with a stick, or with a carrot...

    that makes sense rite...

    it has been explained a lot better in the previous posts...but i thought i'd just put mi 2c in...
    Help Me Plssssssssss

    "'Cause I hear the whispered words
    In your masterpiece beautiful
    You speak the unspeakable through
    I love you too"

  11. #9
    poga's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    170
    Threads
    43
    Reputation
    359
    Rep Power
    0
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Re: Help Me Plssssssssss

    there is stick on front of ass and that is carrot
    and there is stick behind of ass
    that stick on behind hits him hard if he does not run therefore stick on behind is better
    this is what i think


  12. Hide
Hey there! Help Me Plssssssssss Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. Help Me Plssssssssss
Sign Up

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
create