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    Does anyone of you speak Finnish language?

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    Re: Finnish language!

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    Vaikuttaa siltä että suomen kieli herättää täällä kiinnostusta. Vähän erikoinenhan se tosin onkin. Kiitoksia vain!



    Thanks that our "a little strange" language seems to draw attention here. (Wow - the translation of 3 sentences will fit in one by english.)

    Finnish language!

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    Re: Finnish language!



    Someone translate this into finnish: Al-zaara, you're the queen of fishes

    (Al zaara chek ur Reps!)

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    Re: Finnish language!

    Quote Originally Posted by AhLÄÄM View Post


    Someone translate this into finnish: Al-zaara, you're the queen of fishes

    (Al zaara chek ur Reps!)
    LOL

    Al-Zaara, olet kalojen kuningatar.
    Finnish language!

    If only I had checked myself
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    True leaders don't create followers...
    .... They create new leaders.

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    Re: Finnish language!

    suomi

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    Re: Finnish language!

    Quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint View Post
    suomi
    You know what's interesting with that word? I've been wondering for so long... What does Suomi mean? I've asked so many, none knew.. It's not translatable in Finnish or Swedish as far as I know.

    When you say su and omi in Turkish, it means water and is it. Is it water?

    Finland/Suomi is called "tuhansien järvien maa", "the land of thousand lakes". I found the connection interesting at least...
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    Re: Finnish language!

    wiki:
    The name Suomi (Finnish for "Finland") has uncertain origins but a strong candidate for a cognate is the proto-Baltic word *zeme meaning "land". According to an earlier theory the name was derived from suomaa (fen land) or suoniemi (fen cape).

    The exonym Finland has resemblance with, e.g., the Scandinavian placenames Finnmark, Finnveden and hundreds of other toponyms starting with "Fin(n)" in Sweden and Norway. Some of these names are obviously derived from finnr, a Germanic word for a wanderer/finder and thus supposedly meaning nomadic "hunter-gatherers" or slash and burn agriculturists as opposed to the Germanic sedentary farmers and sea-faring traders and pirates. It is unknown how, why and when "Finnr" started to mean the people of Finland Proper in particular (from where the name spread from the 15th century onwards to mean the people of the whole country).

    Among the first documents to mention "a land of the Finns" are two runestones. There is one in Söderby, Sweden, with the inscription finlont (U 582) and one in Gotland, a Swedish island in the Baltic Sea, with the inscription finlandi (G 319) dating from the eleventh century.[13]

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    Re: Finnish language!

    Quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint View Post
    wiki:
    That explains more in-depth the word Finland.

    Yes, it did slightly suggest something for Suomi, but my finnish teachers have said most are weak theories and nobody is really sure.. There are ideas of course, but nothing water-proof.
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    Re: Finnish language!

    Uutuus! Haha, love that one. I got it in my imported soap.

    What does, päävääräävi mean?

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    Re: Finnish language!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishermans_eye View Post
    Uutuus! Haha, love that one. I got it in my imported soap.

    What does, päävääräävi mean?
    It means nothing. In finnish language hasn´t that word at all.



    Pää means head.

    Väärä means wrong.

    left of this word means... no meaning
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    Re: Finnish language!

    Quote Originally Posted by sister harb View Post
    It means nothing. In finnish language hasn´t that word at all.



    Pää means head.

    Väärä means wrong.

    left of this word means... no meaning
    Impossible to say, it could mean everything or nothing.. But a word like that no exist.

    But there is a word "räävi", which probably comes from "rääpiä" / "rääpiäiset". But it is in some kind of dialect. In Finnish there are several dialects. Even Finns has difficult to understand some other Finn speakin funny-sounds dialect - like "savon murre" or "turun murre". Still, most of Finns speak common language, especially amongs youth. Literary language is general for all and when you start learning Finnish you start it from standard language.

    Finnish is also said that it's hard for foreign. What makes Finnish hard? Well, there are lot of cases and no article or preposition like other languages have. When you for example say "on a table" or "on the table", Finns says only "pöydällä". Pöytä = a/the table and "-llä" means "on a/the". Also letter t change to d with this word. Or maybe some letter disappears, like "katto" -> "katolla" (one t is missing, "on a/the roof").

    1) My apple is on my table.

    a) Minun omena on minun pöydällä.
    b) Omenani on pöydälläni.
    c) Mun omena on mun pöydällä.

    All sentences mean same. In Finnish you don't need to use word "my" (minun / mun) to own something. You can add genetive into the word itself.

    My apple =>
    "Omenani..."

    .. on my table. =>
    ".. minun pöydällä." or "..pöydälläni"

    Does it make sense? Yes it does, but it would be quite hard to understand at first.

    Sentence c) Mun omena on mun pöydällä. is from spoken language. In spoken language world "minun" is shorten to be "mun". And most of Finns speak spoken language and genarally write it too (documents are always in literary language naturally).

    There are 15 cases in Finnish.

    nominative: a car = auto
    genetive: cars = auton
    partitive: ? = autoa (e.g. i was repairing a car)
    translative: ? = autoksi (e.g. I though it was a car)
    essive: = autona (e.g. It's not easy to be a car, LOL)
    innessive: in a car = autossa (e.g. inside a car)
    elative: from a car = autosta (e.g. stepping out of a car)
    illative: to a car = autoon (e.g.going inside "into" a car)
    adessive: by a car = autolla (e.g. i came by a car)
    ablative: from a car = autolta (e.g. i came from a car)
    allative: to a car = autolle (e.g. I went to a car)
    abessive: without a car = autotta (e.g. i came without a car)
    (komitatiivi in Finnish): with cars = autoineen (e.g. i came with cars, make a sense?)
    (instruktiivi in Finnish): ? = autoin (don't know how to translate it)

    Last three are rarely used cases, mostly in cases like (instruktiivi) "Häntä etsitiin kissoin ja koirin." (He was searched with cats and dogs.)

    And of course, there is a case accusative also.

    This works also vice versa. For Finns is hard to use correct prepositions. When I say "Olin ikkunassa..." (means literally "I was in a window...") but the correct preposition is "on" of course -> I was on a window..

    Hard for foreign people, hard for Finns

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    Re: Finnish language!

    päävääräävi

    Or "päämäärä" ?? Päämäärä is a word which means a goal.
    Or "päivämäärä" ?? means a date like 24.4.2008.

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    Re: Finnish language!

    Quote Originally Posted by jyry View Post
    päävääräävi

    Or "päämäärä" ?? Päämäärä is a word which means a goal.
    Or "päivämäärä" ?? means a date like 24.4.2008.
    I heard there is a language with 9 ä's? You Finns are funny!

    This is a Swedish site making fun of Finland.

    http://www.prakresor.fi/

    Make sure to see the "videot".

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    Very funny videos. Most of people in Finland can also speak by Swedish as here is 2 official languages... and in Lappland also Sami (Saame).

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    Re: Finnish language!

    Quote Originally Posted by sister harb View Post


    Very funny videos. Most of people in Finland can also speak by Swedish as here is 2 official languages... and in Lappland also Sami (Saame).

    Of course you do. Finland was Swedish for 600 years until the Russians stole you. Finland before Sweden was just a bunch of tribes. You are Sweden's ex colony so you speak Swedish. Just like Americans speak English and North Africans speak French and Mexicans speak Spanish.

    Talar du svenska?

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    Re: Finnish language!

    Ja.

    But I hate to speak Swedish.

    Talar du Sami?

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    Re: Finnish language!

    Quote Originally Posted by sister harb View Post
    Ja.

    But I hate to speak Swedish.

    Talar du Sami?

    Nej det gör jag tyvärr inte. Finns inte så många här i Sverige tror det var runt 10.000 ungefär, 0,001% av befolkningen. I Finland och Norge är de många. Gör du det eller?

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    Jotenkin käsitin että tämän osion nimi on Finnish language.

    Nej det gör jag tyvärr inte. Finns inte så många här i Sverige tror det var runt 10.000 ungefär, 0,001% av befolkningen. I Finland och Norge är de många. Gör du det eller?
    Not Swedish... mutta ymmärsin kyllä tuonkin merkityksen.

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    Re: Finnish language!

    Quote Originally Posted by sister harb View Post


    Most of people in Finland can also speak by Swedish as here is 2 official languages... and in Lappland also Sami (Saame).

    I wouldn't say most of people. Actually very few can speak and write Swedish to understand and read Swedish. And of course, nowadays Swedish is not necessary to learn in high school like it was some years to go.

    If you live some other places than Pohjanmaa and capital area, no one can speak Swedish. They probably remember some words but most of people has forgotten it.

    About 5 % speak Swedish as mother language in Finland. And that's why we all (rest 95%) have to study it Like in Turku, Swedish is not major "foreign" language anymore.

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    Re: Finnish language!

    So many in here are saying as "svenska språken bettre folk"...

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    Re: Finnish language!

    Quote Originally Posted by jyry View Post
    I wouldn't say most of people. Actually very few can speak and write Swedish to understand and read Swedish. And of course, nowadays Swedish is not necessary to learn in high school like it was some years to go.

    If you live some other places than Pohjanmaa and capital area, no one can speak Swedish. They probably remember some words but most of people has forgotten it.

    About 5 % speak Swedish as mother language in Finland. And that's why we all (rest 95%) have to study it Like in Turku, Swedish is not major "foreign" language anymore.
    Oooo, that's to bad, Sweden has to civilize Finland again. Finnish people are savages, they hang around liquor stores in Sweden. And they always drink and drive. And speak their horrible language.

    Quote Originally Posted by sister harb View Post
    So many in here are saying as "svenska språken bettre folk"...

    What does that mean?


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