Could someone explain some of the sunnahs of why it is better to have a cat as a pet than a dog? Why dogs are considered filthy, if this is even the case. Some people tell me its haram to have dogs as pets, unless its guarding something? Just curious. Jazakallah khair, may Allah grant us all the highest level of Paradise.
It is said that angels do not enter a house which contains a dog. Though dogs are not allowed for pets, they are allowed to be kept if used for work, such as guarding the house or farm, or when used for hunting purposes. It is said that angels do not enter a house which contains a dog. Though dogs are not allowed for pets, they are allowed to be kept if used for work, such as guarding the house or farm, or when used for hunting purposes.
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The idea of keeping pets in general is not accepted in the Ahli Sunni wal Jamaa Usul Fiqh.
As for cats are never your pet, it's more likely in their mind they own you.
You should look up and study the whole concept of pets, for it's no small subject.
The basic concept is that it is cruel and unusual to animals and cruelty to them is a sin.
Never forget that the prophet s.a.w's ideas where divinely inspired.
The idea of keeping pets in general is not accepted in the Ahli Sunni wal Jamaa Usul Fiqh.
Keeping pets is permitted in Islam as long as it is not a dog (Dogs are allowed to keep for herding, hunting or farming reasons) and is treated kindly.
Why dogs are considered filthy, if this is even the case.
It's important to know that although we don't keep dogs as pets, we have nothing against a dog itself. Dogs are to be treated kindly, and with compassion and mercy like all animals.
It only remains for us to say that the fact that it is forbidden to keep a dog and interect closely with it does not mean that we should not be kind or feel compassion towards dogs if we see them in a pitiful state. These are two entirely separate matters. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us that "a man saw a dog biting the dust because of thirst, so he took his shoe and started to scoop water up with it until the dog’s thirst was quenched. Allaah appreciated his good deed and granted him entry to Paradise for it." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, no. 174).
According to another report, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whilst a man was walking he became very thirsty, so he went down to a well and drank from it. When he came out, he saw a dog panting and biting the soil because of thirst. The man said, ‘He is suffering the same as I suffered,’ so he filled his shoe (with water), came out and let the dog drink until his thirst was quenched. Allaah appreciated his good deed and forgave him because of it." The people asked, "O Messenger of Allaah, will we be rewarded for how we treat animals?" He said, "In every living thing there is a reward." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Fath, no. 2363)
Salaam
Leave the Cats and the Dogs aside , i will give you something even better
How about adopting a Rabbit??
Or a Golden Fish ??
OR even a Parrot?
These are my favorite , i would love to have one , in the future.
Salaam
Keeping pets is permitted in Islam as long as it is not a dog (Dogs are allowed to keep for herding, hunting or farming reasons) and is treated kindly.
Walaikum Assalam sister,
I'm not sure if you noticed I was referring to the four Madhabs for what others do I've no idea or wish to.
For a millenium Ahli Sunni wal Jamaa and a established Usul Fiqh always referred to the four Imams only.
When one hears "Islam says" now days it's time to run for it usually means "I think".
Should you be able to prove any Mathab wrong, please do but not for my benefit I'm signed for life.
Masalam
PS: The Ahadith you relate are "Sha" but have no refference to pets only kindness to animals.
Could someone explain some of the sunnahs of why it is better to have a cat as a pet than a dog? Why dogs are considered filthy, if this is even the case. Some people tell me its haram to have dogs as pets, unless its guarding something? Just curious. Jazakallah khair, may Allah grant us all the highest level of Paradise.
bro,
These are some of the hadiths for the prohibition of keeping dogs as pets...
1) Ibn Maajah narrated from ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or an image.”
(Ibn Majah 3640, Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah.)
2)Al-Bukhaari narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever keeps a dog, a qiraat from his good deeds will be deducted every day, except a dog for farming or herding livestock.”
(al-Bukhari 2145)
It is better to have a cat as a pet because Abu Hurayrah (the Prophet's companion) used to keep cats as pets and as far as i know the Prophet SAW didn't object....so here we have an example of a Sahabi having a cat as a pet....and btw cuz of his love for pets, he was called "Abu Hurayrah" which is translated in English as "Father of cats"!!
format_quote Originally Posted by halalmeat4free
may Allah grant us all the highest level of Paradise.
The idea of keeping pets in general is not accepted in the Ahli Sunni wal Jamaa Usul Fiqh.
format_quote Originally Posted by al yunan
I'm not sure if you noticed I was referring to the four Madhabs for what others do I've no idea or wish to.
For a millenium Ahli Sunni wal Jamaa and a established Usul Fiqh always referred to the four Imams only.
Keeping pets is permissible according to Hanafi fiqh.
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This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is only One God, and that those of understanding may take heed (14:52)
Indeed Allah knows, and you know not (16: 74, part)
I know this is off topic but have you kept a pet bird before? Like a budgie or cockatiel? Depending on the type of parrot you get, they are not going to be easy to look after. Parrots like Cockatoos, are require social interaction. Very difficult to look after because they require a lot of attention.
I would start off with a budgie because they are easier to look after. I prefer budgies because they are like mini ninjas!
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
I know this is off topic but have you kept a pet bird before?
Salaam
No, i have never really kept a pet in my life , and if i did they all died because of lonliness , i kept a bird before , i kept watching over it but it was very sad because it seemed fine and everything was going good , but i didn't know that the bird was actually suffering which lead to it's death. This is why i think it is better leaving the birds we find outside our homes or in the yard alone , it is better to let them have independence just as God has given them.
format_quote Originally Posted by Guestfellow
Like a budgie or cockatiel?
Brother , i have absolutely no idea what a budgie or a cockatiel is but i would love to imagine having a parrot inside my house. Now that you say it is hard i would probably think other wise.
Walaikum Assalam brother, The idea of keeping pets in general is not accepted in the Ahli Sunni wal Jamaa Usul Fiqh.
format_quote Originally Posted by al yunan
I'm not sure if you noticed I was referring to the four Madhabs for what others do I've no idea or wish to.
Keeping pets in general is allowed by all four madhab. Keeping dogs as pets is even allowed in Maliki madhab.
Abu Hurayra (ra) got his name because he kept kittens as pets and he brought them everywhere, and put them in his clothes pockets. There were many instances where Rasulullah SAW approved of his shahaba giving love and care to pets.
Keeping pets
Is it haram to keep Pet fish? and also I heard somewhere that the dog was created from the dirt taken from the area of the belly button where Satan spat on Adam (AS)?
Praise be to Allaah. There is nothing wrong with keeping animals for which there is no Islamic prohibition on keeping them (such as dogs and pigs). There are reports in the Sunnah which indicate that some of the Sahaabah kept permissible animals for farming purposes or for fun and for pleasure.
It was narrated from Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he had a young brother who had a nughar (a small bird or nightingale). The bird died, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw him looking sad and grieved, so he joked with him, and said to him words which implied approval of his keeping this bird. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to him, “O Abu Umayr, what happened to the nughayr?”
And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us that a woman entered Hell because of a cat “which she did not feed, neither did she let it eat from the vermin of the earth.” From this it may be understood that if she had fed it, she would have been saved from that threat.
And it was said that Abu Hurayrah was so called because of a cat (hirr, dim. hurayrah) which used to accompany him.
So keeping permissible animals, so long as you do not neglect them, is something which is permitted and it may even be one of the means of earning reward, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “In every living being there is reward.” But if you keep animals and neglect and abuse them, it may be one of the means that lead to sin and the threat of Hell, as in the hadeeth about the woman who neglected her cat until it died.
We would also like to point out that Islam preceded both western and eastern organizations in proclaiming the rights of women, animals, workers, employers and so on. Indeed, the greatest rights which it proclaimed are the rights of Allaah over His creation and the rights of people over Allaah.
We would also point out that care and concern for human beings should take precedence over the care of animals, and that the reward for that is greater. [The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:] “Ward off the Fire even with half a date [i.e., by giving half a date in charity]” and “I and the one who sponsors an orphan will be like these two in Paradise” – and he gestured with his index finger and the one next to it. And there are other similar ahaadeeth from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
On this basis, there is nothing wrong with your keeping fish as you mentioned in your question, so long as you take care of feeding them and avoiding anything that could cause their death. And Allaah knows best.
With regard to the creation of dogs, Allaah created them as He created all other animals; it is not permissible to claim that dogs were created from any specific substance without having evidence for that. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“and we testify not except according to what we know”[Yoosuf 12:81]
With regard to Iblees, Allaah commanded him to prostrate to Adam and he refused and was arrogant, then what he did was to tempt Adam to eat from the tree from which he had been forbidden to eat. There was no kind of dirt, and Allaah knows best. I do not know anything of the argument which you mentioned.
One aspect of the Qur’aanic guidance is that it mentioned the knowledge which the Muslim needs in this world and in the Hereafter; with regard to knowledge for which there is no need, the Qur’aan does not mention it, so as to teach the Muslims to focus on beneficial knowledge and to ignore everything else. For example, the Qur’aanic text does not mention the colour of the dog which belonged to the People of the Cave, or the kind of wood from which the ship (ark) of Nooh was built, and other matters which are irrelevant and produce no beneficial knowledge or belief. Perhaps speaking of the substance from which dogs were created comes under the same heading. And Allaah knows best.
Brother , i have absolutely no idea what a budgie or a cockatiel is but i would love to imagine having a parrot inside my house. Now that you say it is hard i would probably think other wise.
It depends on the type of bird you get. Some are easier to look after than others.
^ That is a budgie.
^ That is a cockatiel.
A cockatiel and budgie are easier to look after and great for beginners. I always think it is best to get these birds in a pair...
^ That is a cockatoo. These are VERY difficult to look after and are expensive. They can start to pluck their own feathers out if they do not get attention. They also bite very hard....
If you need more information, PM me and I will give you information about keeping parrots and small birds.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
A cockatiel and budgie are easier to look after and great for beginners. I always think it is best to get these birds in a pair...
When you get mini ninjas in pair of the opposite sex, and you build large enough cage for them, soon you'll have mini ninjas junior. That's what happened to my cousin's mini ninjas. Granted she built for them large cage, 4x2x2 m.
I had a "nuri" bird (parrot), we had her since she was a baby, gifted by my dad's colleague from the island of papua. At first we had her in cage, then we freed it from the cage. She was just walking and flying around the house and yard but never flew higher. She used to call me by my name and she was able to say "assalamualaykum" to greet us.
After 6 years, one day she flew away over the back wall. It was a sad day.
She looked like this one:
Keeping pets is permissible according to Hanafi fiqh.
Walaikum Assalam sister,
That was no evidence and If I may say the Hanafi Mathab has one of the strictest views on animals.
Please look up "Usul Fiqh".
Masalam
format_quote Originally Posted by Ramadhan
Keeping dogs as pets is even allowed in Maliki madhab.
Walaikum Assalam brother,
I did say Usul Fiqh meaning classic and where is Imam Malik rahimullah's approval and not some thing cooked up at Google.
Pets have been around since the dawn of civilatation and something that important would not just be left out.
No one is disputing cats how many times need to repeat.
Masalam
PS: One Hadith does not costitute a Mathab and neither does one man's opinion Usul Fiqh.
A conclusive Fatwa needs a lot of evidence to last that long.
When we say Ahli Sunni wal Jamaa we mean followers and not fabricators.
I did say Usul Fiqh meaning classic and where is Imam Malik rahimullah's approval and not some thing cooked up at Google.
format_quote Originally Posted by al yunan
A conclusive Fatwa needs a lot of evidence to last that long.
When we say Ahli Sunni wal Jamaa we mean followers and not fabricators.
Since you first made the statement, please could you bring the evidence that keeping pets is generally not accepted in all four madhabs. Generally, when quoting a position, one doesn't say to the other "go and look this up", but brings supportive material to help the other person.
Jazaakallah khayr.
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Stunningly beautiful adhaan from the Dome of the Rock in Masjid ul Aqsa Download (right click and choose "save target/link as").
This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is only One God, and that those of understanding may take heed (14:52)
Indeed Allah knows, and you know not (16: 74, part)
Jazakallah Khair to everyone posting all the hadiths, they are all very interesting! i might just go get a cat now haha; the links were very beneficial as well, i havent looked at all of them but i will Insha Allah.
and i just love how a thread about cats and dogs turned into a discussion about parrots, lol...
Since you first made the statement, please could you bring the evidence that keeping pets is generally not accepted in all four madhabs. Generally, when quoting a position, one doesn't say to the other "go and look this up", but brings supportive material to help the other person.
Walaikum Assalam sister,
Actually I've re-writen this post many times but you go right ahead and believe what ever you want just don't impose it as fact to me.
you go right ahead and believe what ever you want just don't impose it as fact to me.
Please don't be so needlessly rude. I have not been rude to you.
You didn't accept what I'd written, and you made the statement that it is generally not accepted in all four madhabs to keep pets. Instead of asking us to go and look it up, please provide the evidence so that we can all learn. That's all I asked you.
Jazaakallah khayr.
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This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is only One God, and that those of understanding may take heed (14:52)
Indeed Allah knows, and you know not (16: 74, part)
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