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    Combating The Cancer Of Sectarianism : The Muslims Are One Party (OP)


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    The Muslims Are One Group & One Party


    From the words of the Shaykh , al-'Allāmah, Hamood bin 'Uqalā' Ash-Shu'aybī (may Allāh have mercy on him):

    "Question: What do you – may Allāh safeguard you – say in relation to belonging the Islamic groups?

    Shaykh Hamood replied: The Muslimūn are one group and one party; they are those who are upon the Book and the Sunnah. However, it is these groups today that have weakened the da’wah and divided the ummah into various sects and parties. So this is the Tablighī group; this is the Salafī group – those who falsely attribute themselves to Salafīyyah – and this is the Ikhwān group, and so on.

    Those who agree with the Book and the Sunnah from these various groups are the ones upon the truth. In terms of dispersion, fragmentation, and separation, then this evil happened from the enemies of the Muslimīn; because the enemies of Islām realize that the authentic Islām poses a danger to them. Due to that they make efforts to divide the Muslimīn so that the Muslimīn do not become established.

    This separation is not permissible and weakens the ummah; it is obligatory upon everyone to unite upon the Book and the Sunnah, and to give aid among the Muslimīn. As for every group who curses and insults the other, then it is erroneous and not permissible. He (ta‘ālā) said, “ And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah (i.e. this Qur'ān), and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allāh's Favour on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren (in Islamic Faith)1..." And He (ta‘ālā) said, "And verily, this 2 is my Straight Path, so follow it, and follow not (other) paths, for they will separate you away from His Path. This He has ordained for you that you may become Al-Muttaqūn." 3

    The Muslimīn being united is a root of strength and honor, along with a means for victory...." - End

    Adaptation of Eng. Transfer. (Original Arabic : http://www.al-oglaa.com/?section=subject&SubjectID=21 )

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    1 Āle Imrān (3), 103.
    2 i.e. Allāh's Commandments mentioned in the above two Verses 151 and 152.
    3 Al-An'ām (6), 153.
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    Re: Combating The Cancer Of Sectarianism : The Muslims Are One Party

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    Following an established madhhab, far from being a cancer, is in fact an act of wisdom, prudence and humility that previous generations of Muslims have done for centuries.

    The vast majority of believers do not have the requisite knowledge, time and intelligence to do proper ijtihâd. It sounds good to say that one simply follows the Qur'ân and the Sunna, rather than what one perceives to be sects, but this is a naive oversimplification that has no relation to real life. While the Islamic creed is fairly easy to understand, the sciences of the religion on the other hand are difficult to master. It's not a simple matter of picking up a Qur'ân and reading a collection of sound ahâdith: have you mastered the Classical Arabic language? That takes years of intense personal study. Do you know how to reconcile apparently contradictory ahâdith? There are thousand of narrations in the accepted collections. How do you establish their chronological order by yourself in a way that helps you determine their context and their relevance to fiqh? How do you master the concept of naskh on your own? How can you determine the boundaries of Sharia without the vast corpus of intellectual knowledge that your pious predecessors have left behind? It is impossible. The traditional madhâhib are a treasure of Islamic knowledge and tradition. They are necessarily vehicles by which true Ilm is acquired. You definitely need learned scholars and people of knowledge put above you to guide you through even the most simple aspects of Islam. The differences of opinion in fiqh are not a source of uncertainty or scandal to the Umma but a source of richness. It is virtually impossible that the Umma has been misguided for so long. All of the madhâhib are valid and must be respected with a spirit of docility and tolerance towards our brothers in the faith. Those who cast this spiritual heritage aside, do so to their own peril.

    If we got rid of all madhâhib - quite a disastrous idea in itself - and everyone just followed the Qur'ân and Sunna by themselves, what would happen? New madhâhib would inevitably spring up in no time as attempts to systematize the overwhelming breadth of information contained in the revelation that our blessed Rasûlullâh (s.a.w.) received and put into practice by his living example.

    Sadly, sectarianism in Islam is an inevitability, as prophesied by the Prophet (s.a.w.) himself. Let us remain close to Allâh, reform our hearts, practice our religion and respect our sheykhs and our pious predecessors in the path of righteousness.
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    Re: Combating The Cancer Of Sectarianism : The Muslims Are One Party

    I have already said enough on this topic. The main reason I came on this forum was for dialogue with non Muslims and sadly this is turning into a battle against my own Muslims brothers.
    May Allah keep us united. If you want to discuss anything seriously with logic, send me a private message and we can continue our discussion privately. I am not going to answer anything related to this issue on this forum anymore.

    The video below pretty much sums up my response:


    Ma’a Salama
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    Re: Combating The Cancer Of Sectarianism : The Muslims Are One Party

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    Accepting The Truth From Anyone



    Ḥāfidh ibn Rajab quotes Imām Ash-Shāfi'ī:

    "... He also used to say, “I never debated someone desiring that he errs, nor have I debated someone worrying about whether the truth would be clarified on his tongue, or on mine.” This was because their debating was solely for the sake of clarifying the command of Allāh and His Messenger , and was not for the sake of winning (the argument), or for the sake of personal recognition..."

    Further, ibn Rajab writes:

    "...Similarly, the scholars and those aware of the truth used to advise one another to accept the truth from anyone that had said it, whether young or old, and to submit to his opinion.

    It was said to Ḥātim al-Asim, “You are an inarticulate man, however never did you debate a man except that you overcame him. So how do you triumph over your opponents?” He said,“With three (things): I am pleased if my opponent is correct, I am unhappy if he is wrong, and I withhold my tongue from saying anything that would harm him.” When this was mentioned to Imām Aḥmad (ibn Ḥanbal) he remarked, “How wise a man he is!”..."

    [Adaptation of Eng. Trans. Of Ḥāfidh Abū’l-Faraj ibn Rajab al-Ḥanbalī's explanation of the hadīth “I was sent with the sword before the Hour..."]


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    Re: Combating The Cancer Of Sectarianism : The Muslims Are One Party

    Quote Originally Posted by HabibUrrehman View Post
    I have already said enough on this topic. The main reason I came on this forum was for dialogue with non Muslims and sadly this is turning into a battle against my own Muslims brothers.
    May Allah keep us united. If you want to discuss anything seriously with logic, send me a private message and we can continue our discussion privately. I am not going to answer anything related to this issue on this forum anymore.

    The video below pretty much sums up my response:


    Ma’a Salama
    Yes, totally agree with the brothers video, it makes complete sense. We are Muslims that follow the Quran & Sunnah, the madhabs arose from scholars of different lands, times, and available hadith, and scholastic principles, so obviously there is going to be some differences, but now we are so fortunate to have all of the knowledge before us, so we must utilise all of the Islamic knowledge to arrive at the best decisions, and if we did that then that is all that is required.
    When the Prophet(saw) told the Sahabas(ra) not to pray Asr, until they reached Bani Quraidh, the Sahabas (ra) had different interpretations, yet the Propeht(saw) said both of them would be rewarded.

    I am very limited in knowledge, but sometimes i say to someone that asks me,well Islamic law can be compared to kuffr law, in the sense that different judges and lawyers presiding over the same rules, come to slightly different results.
    In the same way, most Muslims are not Islamic 'lawyers' or Islamic 'judges', but today we dont have the Islamic Judicial System, or Islamic Sharia, implemented by the calipha, and the so meanwhile we must look to experts to guide us .However, if you see something wrong, then dont follow it, as their are deliberate diversions going on.

    That being said, a new Muslim, and probably most is us are not that knowledgeable, so we must start somewhere, so to 'follow' someone you trust is the only option. That does not mean we are Hanifi, or Shafi etc, its just means we must follow the strongest evidences.
    One example of the problems that affect the Ummah is the calendar, or lack of. The calendar is meant to unite and synchronise a people, and that is no different for the Muslim Ummah. But these days rather than working towards unification and so common calendar, our proxy rulers are dividing us by deliberately adopting different calendars.
    Now, its the same story , on every issue, they like to keep us divided, and so promote all kinds of weird rulings.
    This will not change unless we change, and demand unity in political, economic, military, and all divisions.


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