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    Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture:
    Destroying Correct Cultivation

    Words from the Senior Scholars - may Allâh have mercy on them
    Translated by Abû Umar al-Jurjânî
    Credit to Maktabah Al-Salafiyah

    WORDS FROM SHAYKH MUHAMMAD NÂSIRUD-DÎN AL-ALBÂNÎ

    "Listen my brother. I sincerely advise you and other youths like you, who stand upon a type of deviation - as it seems to us, and Allâh knows best - that do not waste your time in refuting each other, saying that such and such has this in him, and such and such has that in him. This is because; firstly: there is no knowledge at all in this, and secondly: this mannerism only breeds enmity and hatred in the hearts, and causes contempt and rancour to develop in the hearts. So It is upon you to seek knowledge. It is knowledge that will make clear to you the reality of the speech which is in praise of a particular person having many mistakes, and whether he is deserving of being labelled as an innovator. Yet why do we wish to delve into such issues. Indeed I advise you not to delve into such issues. The reality is that we complain about this splitting which has occurred between those who ascribe themselves to the da'wah to the Book and the Sunnah - or as we say, ad-Da'watus-Salafiyyah the greatest cause of this splitting, and Allâh knows bests, is the following of whims and desires and the evil dictates of one's soul. It is not due to the presence of differences in thoughts and ideas. So this is my sincere advice."

    [Silsilatul Hudâ wan-Nûr (784/1), dated the 1st of Rabî' al Awwal 1414H (9-12-1993)]

    WORDS FROM SHAYKH 'ABDUL-'AZÎZ BIN BÂZ

    "What has become common in this age, is that many of those who ascribe themselves to knowledge and calling to good, fall into belittling many of their brothers who are well-known dâ'îs, and speaking against the honour of the students of knowledge and the dâ'îs. This is done sometimes secretly in their circles, sometimes on cassettes which are then circulated amongst the people, or sometimes publicly mentioned in their gatherings in the mosques. And this matter opposes the command of Allâh and His Messenger from a number of angles ... So I sincerely advise those brothers who have fallen into slandering and maligning the dâ'îs, that they should repent to Allâh, the Most High, for what they have written with their own hands, and what they have said with their own tongues; which may have been a cause for corrupting the hearts of some of the youths; filling their hearts with hatred and malice, and pre-occupying them away from acquiring beneficial knowledge and calling to Allâh, because of being pre-occupied with qîl and qâl (gossiping and rumour mongering); and with speech about this person and that person; and with hunting for the mistakes of people, and burdening them with this. Likewise, I sincerely advise them that they should redress whatever they have done, and declare themselves free from the likes of these actions, through writing: or methods other than this. They should remove whatever may have entered the minds and thoughts of those who listened to them, and they should take to doing those fruitful actions that will draw them closer to Allâh, and which will be of benefit to the worshippers. They should beware of being hasty in pronouncing takfîr, tafsîq or tabdî upon people, without the truth being explained, and without the proofs being established. The Prophet sallallâhu 'alayhi wa sallam said: "Whosoever says to his brother: 'O unbeliever' then it will return to one of them. " The authenticity of this hadîth has been agreed upon."

    [Majmû' Fatawa wa Maqalat Mutanawwi'ah (7/311-314), abridged.]

    WORDS FROM SHAYKH MUHAMMAD IBN SÂLIH AL-'UTHAYMÎN

    "It is essential for a student of knowledge to safeguard his time from being wasted. And time wasting occurs in a number of ways:- Firstly: That one leaves committing to memory and revising what one has read. Secondly: That one sits with his friends and indulges in vain and idle talk which contains no benefit. Thirdly, and this Is the most harmful of them upon a student of knowledge: That he has no concern except pursuing people's statements with he said this and he said that (mâ qîla wa mâ qâla) and with what occurred and what is taking place regarding an issue that is of no concern to him. And there is no doubt that this is from a weakness of [his] Islâm, since the Prophet sallallâhu 'alayhi wa sallam said: "Part of a person's good Islâm is to leave alone that which does not concern him." And busying oneself with qîla wa qâla and excessive questioning are time-wasters. And it is, in reality, a disease which, when it comes into man - we ask Allâh for well-being - it becomes his greatest concern. Due to this, he may even sometimes show enmity ('adâ) to one who does not deserve enmity, or show allegiance (walâ) to one who does not deserve allegiance, because of concerning himself with these issues which pre-occupy him away from knowledge, under the pretext of "championing the truth", whilst this is not the case! Rather, this is part of pre-occupying oneself with an issue that does not concern him. If, however, a report comes to you without you having pursued or sought it, then all people receive news, but they do not busy themselves with it, nor does it become their greatest concern. This is because this pre-occupies the student of knowledge, corrupts his affair; and opens up for the Ummah the door of bigoted partisanship (hizbiyyah), which then splits the Ummah."

    [Kitâbul 'Ilm (204-205)]

    FROM THE WORDS OF SHAYKH 'ABDULLÂH AL-GHUNAYMÂN

    Amongst the consequences of the actions of these individuals is that they have confused the thoughts of many of the youth. Thus, as a result, some youths have strayed from the path of guidance and have begun to follow what those - who criticize others, and who have stood in the path of da'wah and blocked the path of Allâh - have drawn up for them. Some of the youth, as a result of those individuals who criticize others, now sense a great gap between them and the Scholars, and now harbour great misgivings, causing them to stay away from the Scholars. Some have begun to categorize people according to what he hears from these people, saying: so and so is from the Ikhwân, because he talks, visits or sits with a person from the Ikhwân; or that such and such is from the Surûrîs; or such and such is from the profiterors [i.e. those who wish to please everybody, even at the expense of the truth], etc. The amazing thing is that these people imagine that by doing so, they are applying the methodology of al-jarh wat-ta'dîl. However, they have adopted in this action, ignorant leaders who are misguided and who misguide others. Thus, it is upon the Muslim to fear Allâh regarding himself and those poor souls who are not even a quarter, or a tenth of the learned.

    There occurs in the authentic hadîth: "That Allâh guides through you even a single person, is better than the choicest of camels." [Related by al-Bukhârî (2942), from Sahl Ibn Sa'd radiallâhu 'anhu]

    Meaning that it is better for you in this world. Likewise, whosoever misguides even a single person, will bear a great burden; as Allâh - the Most High - said, after mentioning the story of one of the Âdam's children killing his brother: "Because of that, We ordained for the Children of Isra'îl that whosoever kills a person, not because of a life for a life; or killed a person in order to spread corruption upon the earth, it is as if he has killed the whole of mankind." [5:32].

    Thus, to send someone astray in his religion is far far greater than killing him. So statements regarding matters of religion must be stated along with their proofs from either Allâh's Book, or the Sunnah of His Messenger sallallâhu 'alayhi wa sallam, and that when making such statements one should seek by that the Face of Allâh alone; and also one should ascertain if the harm resulting from such speech is not greater than the benefit, or that one's intention is not due to envy of a particular individual, or due to the following of one's desires.

    [Al Hawâ wa Atharuhu fil Khilâf (33-34)]
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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    What's a vulture culture?

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    Sorry if that question sounds stupid but I need to know

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    Assallaamu alaykum

    Perhaps, if and when some of the scholars realize that the yeuth is not only a subject for the Friday lecture but, that they are the backbone of tomorrow's society, perhaps then will the gap be narrowed?

    Just, umm; well, just maybe if they stop going toering abroad and get to know the yeuth in the area that they live in, well, just maybe they might narrow that yawning gap.

    I know of an individual who has about 200 people working under him.
    They are non-muslims and this one particular person reverted to Islam but, not because of his example; no, because this person took it upon him-herself to read books and to ask questions about Islam.
    He? Well, he was too occupied with belittleing the non-muslims; and the yeuth.

    We should all think before we judge others; and the Ulama (learnered people) are included in that "WE".

    Wassallaam

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    Good post, masha-Allah.

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    You know it's amazing just how many youth stray into takfeer and rumour mongering the sheikhs. So unnecessary and dangerous. May Allah guide us all.

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture


    ^^Ameen!

    jazakAllah khair brother.
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    Our Lord! Verily, we have heard the call of one calling to Faith: 'Believe in your Lord,' and we have believed.
    Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and expiate from us our evil deeds, and make us die (in the state of righteousness) along with Al-Abrar

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture



    Actually it's the elders that I have noticed this quality in but the youth are guilty too, they see young practasing muslims are with their age they seem to have pride when a youth tells an elder he's doing something wrong, for instance I've heard such things as, "He was only born yesterday" etc.

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    Yeah I know, but loads of youths go around making takfeer on shuyookh, and saying that tehy are indeed innovators or they are from other sects... it's nonsense. How do they know what is in their hearts? I think they should mind their own business and deal with their problems first.

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    eww... how come i can post here too?

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    i hate it when people start refuting about sects.... .

    Sometimes they forget that uniting ummah is the most important thing....rather than finding mistakes of one another.

    You can politely tell off people mistakes...but they should not fight and wants to win in every debate.
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    25:36 And the true servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk the earth with humility and when the ignorant address them, they respond with words of peace.

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    Quote Originally Posted by mangolassi View Post
    eww... how come i can post here too?
    If you read the FAQ you will find that you can post in nearly all of the Forums. There really are not that many restricions for the limited members. If you are in dobt scroll down to the bottom of a thread and in the lower left corner you will see if you can post and start threads in that forum.
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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    what is meant by takfeer?

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    to declare a muslim a kafir.
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    each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
    question authority

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    hehe...I just learned that actually from that thread

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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    Quote Originally Posted by snakelegs View Post
    to declare a muslim a kafir.
    omg snake knew and i didnt LOL. good for u =)
    Nice share bro.
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    Re: Hunting for Mistakes and the Vulture Culture

    Awesome post this is more important then we realize b'c i think almost all of us are guilty of doing this in some form, May Allah swt enable us to only speak the truth and save us from deviating those with Iman.

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