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    20/11/79 CE
    1st Muharram 1400 AH


    The Prophet (sal Allahu alayhi waSalam) said black flags will appear from the lands of the east, and they shall fight and they shall kill you like no other nation has been killed.

    When you see them - then give them allegiance - even if you have to crawl over snow to get to them, because they shall have the khalifah of Allaah - the Mahdi in their midst.


    Bismillaahi Rahmaani Raheem [In the Name of Allaah, the Most Gracious - Most Merciful]


    The 20th of Novermber 1979 appeared to be a normal day in Makkah. To be sure it was a unique and auspicious day for it so happened that this day corresponded to the 1st of Muharram 1400 After Hijrah [AH] - the dawn to a new century, the beginning of a new era.

    But little did muslims know as they shuffled and jostled one another in the crowd outside of the haram in Makkah to enter the Masjid Al Haraam to pray the Salaat ul Fajr, that this day was to mark of the most horrific and evil days in the history of the Ummah. As was typical and still is, a number of coffins and byers were lead to the gates of the Haram and the crowds made space for them in order to give them the right of way - out of respect to the dead, and to hasten their funeral procession. But it was not dead bodies that respect was being given to - but rather rifles, guns, ammunition and other weapons. For indeed hidden under the white sheets were not corpses, but weapons intended to create corpses. And they were smuggled under the very eyes of the guards who were there to protect the Haram.

    When the Fajr prayer began, the people lined up to pray to Allaah subhaanahu wa ta'aala. In the beautiful air, in the beautiful scent surrounding the Ka'abah. And as the Imaam finished the prayer and said the salaam, signalling the new day - the dawn of a new century. Suddenly a group of men pulled out their guns and other weapons - took control of the microphone, and began announcing that the promised Mahdi was in their midst, and that he had come finally to end this world of the deceit of the evil the corruption that was rampant at their times, and he would fill the world with justice, just as it had been filled before with injustice.



    The name of this announcer was Juhaiman ibn Muhammad ibn Saif Al Utaibi, and the name of this supposed Mahdi was just as the hadith had predicted it. His name was Muhammad ibn Abdullah, who was from the pure arab tribe of Al-Kahtaan, from the descendants of the Quraysh. This Mahdi - Muhammad ibn Abdullah made his way to the Ka'abah - stood between the Black Stone and the Station of Ibrahim and began taking the oath of allegiance from his followers. Juhaiman then demanded that all the muslims in the Haram should do the same - for here he claimed was the promised Mahdi. Here he said is the Mahdi who is fulfilling the signs mentioned in the hadith, his name is Muhammad, and he is the son of Abdullah. He is the Mahdi coming from Medina, he is the Mahdi who was to seek refuge in the Haram in Makkah, and of the signs is that he would take the pledge of allegiance at the Ka'abah between the Station of Ibrahim and the Black Stone. All the signs were clear and apparent - here is the Mahdi, why not give pledge of allegiance to him?

    Simultaneously the followers of Juhaiman all around the Haram overpowered the guards of the entrances. And ofcourse the guards were unprepared for something of this nature. They shut down and barricated the doors of the Haram. Bewildered and confused the muslim masses, thousands of men, women and children were completely dumb struck. Many of them simply had no understanding of what was going on, after all many of them never even spoke arabic. Others did not realise the gravity of the situation.

    Afterall this was the Ka'abah, the holiest place on the earth. So who could possibly assume that anyone would try to do anything to taint its sanctity and image. But a few people realised the fanaticism which was unfolding infront of their very eyes. Including the Imaam of the Haram, he immediately disguised himself in the crowd. And 3 days later when Juhaiman let the women and children out, he managed to sneak out of the Haram along with them and he was one of the primary sources that the authorities could rely on to understand what was going on in the Haram.



    For 8 days after this announcement, the followers of Juhaiman held the Haram itself hostage. No-one was allowed to leave initially, and those trapped inside were held hostage until finally when food ran short - Juhaiman was forced initially to let the women and children out and eventually the men out aswell. But Juhaiman and his own followers sealed the doors of the Haram shut. And they barricaded themselves underground the basement of the Haram. The Tawaaf - the only perpetual act that muslims continue to do non stop for hundreds and thousands of years - stopped. Even the congregational prayer was not called. Instead of calling people to prayer - the minarets were used for snipers to shoot down any guards who dared to try to approach the Haram.


    The Muslim Ummah was stunned. Was it even concievable that a group of Muslims take the Haram itself hostage? At the same time many people; including students of knowledge and even 'Ulama (Scholars) - were confused. Was it possible that this person could truelly be the Mahdi? After all - some of the signs had truelly been met. A person had sought refuge in the Haram - one sign, his name was Muhammad - another, the son of Abdullah - another sign. He was from the Quraysh - yet another sign.

    Allegiance was indeed given to him between the Black Stone and the Station of Ibrahim as the athaab and the hadith predicted. No matter how remote the possibility - the question lurked in the minds of these people - What if this really was the Mahdi?



    For if it were - the Prophet sal Allaahu alayhi waSalam also told us how towards the end of time - an army will march towards the Haram in order to attack someone who had sought refuge in it. And that the earth itself shall swallow up the earth itself the entire army and destroy them? What if this was the Mahdi, and any army they sent would be the army the earth would swallow up? After deliberating over the call of this illegid Mahdi and the various signs the hadith had predicted he had, and also taking into account the tactics that this group was using to spread the call - the Highest Council of Senior Scholars issued a Fatwa (Religious Verdict) stating that these people were renegades, and that it was permissible to launch an offensive attack against these rebels in order that this Haram be rid of them.



    Based upon this fatwa, Commandoes - armed with plans devised by Military Experts & Strategic Analysts stormed the Ka'abah, equipped with tanks, hundreds of military personnell, and other assault weapons. In the shade of the first house ever built on earth for the worship of Allaah - built by the Prophet Ibraheem; an armed combat ensued.

    Both sides exchanged fire - the intecrate layout and architecture of the Haram proved to be adventacious for these rebels. For every pillar became a shield behind where they could hide. And the multiple floors of the Haram proved to be a veritable maze. The Sacred Masjid became a War-Zone.

    Many people were killed, including the supposed Mahdi himself. It is unclear how he died, some rumours have it that he was killed by some of his own followers when he realised that this was a gross mistake and wanted to turn himself in. In any case - when the supposed Mahdi died, many of his followers realised that this could not possible be the Mahdi, and with his death - they surrendered themselves to the forces. Others including Juhaiman himself - who was the actual ring leader fought on, using tear-gas, throwing in smoking tires and other ammunition - the Commandoes who stormed the Haram tried to extragate Juhaiman and his core followers. But they had taken shelter in the basement of the Haram, and they were not able to bring them out.


    Finally as a last-resort - they flooded the basement of the Haram with water, and threw in live-electric wires. Having no option - Juhaiman and his followers battered and bruised, covered in smoke and sut - surrendered themselves. Photographers managed to capture images, that still bring chills and shivers to those who see them to this day. 61 people were caught alive, the rest over 100 died in the battle inside the Haram. All of these 61 were soon executed in cities all around the Kingdom.


    This incident brought to the attention of the entire world; Muslim and Non Muslim, a concept that had hitherto been neglected or side-lined for many years. That of a being called the Mahdi. What exactly is the concept of the Mahdi, is it a superstition borrowed from other religions? Or perhaps some kind of myth that muslims have invented?

    The answer to these questions, and more is the topic of the present series of lectures.


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    there was another attack in makkah, but i dont think it was on the kaaba, it was done by shias sum protest or summin durin hajj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    so are the treasures hidden beneath the kaa'ba I have read that as one theory somewhere is that true?

    It is said that Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him when he opened the Kaaba of Makkah he found a treasure inside, more than seventy thousand Kilos or Oqeyah(not sure)of gold

    he did not take it or dispose it he just kept it there, Caliphs did the same thing, successors have been some of the Kaaba, some of Abbasi Caliphs were taking loans from kaaba treasure and return it back

    Abdullah bin Omar, hates to give gold to the Kaaba , he said that the poor have the priority first, and Ka'bah do not need it.

    The Omar Ibn al Khattab was about to give the treasures of the Kaaba to all the poor but Sadn Allbait Shaibah said that the Prophet peace be upon him, and Abu Bakr did not do so, also Ali Bin Abi Talib and sahaba agreed on that. He was released charity funds to the Kaaba.

    thats why Oulama'a says its not allowed or makruh to spend kaabah treasures for other reason instead for kaabah its self.

    i realy didnt heard about a treasures beneath kaaba all i know that treasures are given in the old ages but im sure that the kaabah discription from inside as follows:

    the floor inside kaaba is white marble in the middle and black marble surround it with no gold or money or such treasures ..

    the walls from inside is marble also covered with a green or pink curtains there's Ayat from Qura'an written on it sewed with a silver threads covers even the ceiling of kaaba


    there's three wooden pillars in the middle to keep the balance and support ceiling ...

    there's also a number of outstanding lamps made of copper, silver and glass engraved with verses of the Koran belongs to the Othamani's era.

    there's a ladder reach up to the roof of the Kaaba is made of aluminum and crystal.


    thanx

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    Quote Originally Posted by chacha_jalebi View Post
    there was another attack in makkah, but i dont think it was on the kaaba, it was done by shias sum protest or summin durin hajj
    u cant consider it as attack .. before , shias always do a lot of protesting in hajj that harms a lot of citizens in makkah every year .. now its safe for all pilgrims 'coz saudi military always keeps thier movements in focus

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    Quote Originally Posted by wafi View Post
    It is said that Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him when he opened the Kaaba of Makkah he found a treasure inside, more than seventy thousand Kilos or Oqeyah(not sure)of gold

    he did not take it or dispose it he just kept it there, Caliphs did the same thing, successors have been some of the Kaaba, some of Abbasi Caliphs were taking loans from kaaba treasure and return it back

    Abdullah bin Omar, hates to give gold to the Kaaba , he said that the poor have the priority first, and Ka'bah do not need it.

    The Omar Ibn al Khattab was about to give the treasures of the Kaaba to all the poor but Sadn Allbait Shaibah said that the Prophet peace be upon him, and Abu Bakr did not do so, also Ali Bin Abi Talib and sahaba agreed on that. He was released charity funds to the Kaaba.

    thats why Oulama'a says its not allowed or makruh to spend kaabah treasures for other reason instead for kaabah its self.

    i realy didnt heard about a treasures beneath kaaba all i know that treasures are given in the old ages but im sure that the kaabah discription from inside as follows:

    the floor inside kaaba is white marble in the middle and black marble surround it with no gold or money or such treasures ..

    the walls from inside is marble also covered with a green or pink curtains there's Ayat from Qura'an written on it sewed with a silver threads covers even the ceiling of kaaba


    there's three wooden pillars in the middle to keep the balance and support ceiling ...

    there's also a number of outstanding lamps made of copper, silver and glass engraved with verses of the Koran belongs to the Othamani's era.

    there's a ladder reach up to the roof of the Kaaba is made of aluminum and crystal.


    thanx

    Masha'Allah, you are very knowledgeable on the matter..
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    Quote Originally Posted by wafi View Post
    sorry for that .. below is another link i upload ..


    Click Here To Download


    thanx
    Still doesn't work for me. It links me to HTTP thingy lol. But thank you nontheless

    Quote Originally Posted by wafi View Post
    in the old age of Islam people from around the world used to give gold, money , oud & Misc (Odor)..etc... to kaabah for rebuild, renew and such stuff... it was given and put inside Ka'abah ... used to call it treasures of kaabah

    most of khalifah and rulers as the time pass by in makkah hates that kaabah given money ,coz priorty to masakins and orphanage in saaqah and kaabah dont need it ...

    even now in the kingdom of saudi arabia period, if u promoted to see the kaabah inside, u can see that its just an empty room from inside..
    Googled these pictures:













    Quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    so are the treasures hidden beneath the kaa'ba I have read that as one theory somewhere is that true?

    If you look at the pictures above, I doubt it but Wafi as a resident of Mecca knows far better than I do.

    Quote Originally Posted by wafi View Post
    It is said that Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him when he opened the Kaaba of Makkah he found a treasure inside, more than seventy thousand Kilos or Oqeyah(not sure)of gold

    he did not take it or dispose it he just kept it there, Caliphs did the same thing, successors have been some of the Kaaba, some of Abbasi Caliphs were taking loans from kaaba treasure and return it back

    Abdullah bin Omar, hates to give gold to the Kaaba , he said that the poor have the priority first, and Ka'bah do not need it.

    The Omar Ibn al Khattab was about to give the treasures of the Kaaba to all the poor but Sadn Allbait Shaibah said that the Prophet peace be upon him, and Abu Bakr did not do so, also Ali Bin Abi Talib and sahaba agreed on that. He was released charity funds to the Kaaba.

    thats why Oulama'a says its not allowed or makruh to spend kaabah treasures for other reason instead for kaabah its self.

    i realy didnt heard about a treasures beneath kaaba all i know that treasures are given in the old ages but im sure that the kaabah discription from inside as follows:

    the floor inside kaaba is white marble in the middle and black marble surround it with no gold or money or such treasures ..

    the walls from inside is marble also covered with a green or pink curtains there's Ayat from Qura'an written on it sewed with a silver threads covers even the ceiling of kaaba


    there's three wooden pillars in the middle to keep the balance and support ceiling ...

    there's also a number of outstanding lamps made of copper, silver and glass engraved with verses of the Koran belongs to the Othamani's era.

    there's a ladder reach up to the roof of the Kaaba is made of aluminum and crystal.


    thanx
    Barakallah feek
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    Quote Originally Posted by wafi View Post
    u cant consider it as attack .. before , shias always do a lot of protesting in hajj that harms a lot of citizens in makkah every year .. now its safe for all pilgrims 'coz saudi military always keeps thier movements in focus
    On November 28, 1979, as the Mecca incident continued, the Shia of Qatif and two other towns in the Eastern Province tried to observe Ashura publicly. When the national guard intervened, rioting ensued, resulting in a number of deaths. Two months later, another riot in Al Qatif by Shia was quelled by the national guard, but more deaths occurred. Among the criticisms expressed by Shia were the close ties of the Al Saud with and their dependency on the West, corruption, and deviance from the sharia. The criticisms were similar to those levied by Juhaiman al Utaiba in his pamphlets circulated the year before his seizure of the Grand Mosque. Some Shia were specifically concerned with the economic disparities between Sunnis and Shia, particularly since their population is concentrated in the Eastern Province, which is the source of the oil wealth controlled by the Sunni Al Saud of Najd. During the riots that occurred in the Eastern Province in 1979, demands were raised to halt oil supplies and to redistribute the oil wealth so that the Shia would receive a more equitable share.


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    was that musharraf walking behind abdullah in the second pic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    was that musharraf walking behind abdullah in the second pic?
    Yes, I was surprised too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    Still doesn't work for me. It links me to HTTP thingy lol. But thank you nontheless
    here it is:
    http://www.yabdoo.com/gallery/data/e...350_p11760.wmv


    kinda scary video
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    Quote Originally Posted by Güven View Post


    Did they get executed?
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    If you look at the pictures above, I doubt it but Wafi as a resident of Mecca knows far better than I do.
    I heard before the treasures was kept in a well not that deep inside Kaaba but i doubt if that true also bro ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    On November 28, 1979, as the Mecca incident continued, the Shia of Qatif and two other towns in the Eastern Province tried to observe Ashura publicly. When the national guard intervened, rioting ensued, resulting in a number of deaths. Two months later, another riot in Al Qatif by Shia was quelled by the national guard, but more deaths occurred. Among the criticisms expressed by Shia were the close ties of the Al Saud with and their dependency on the West, corruption, and deviance from the sharia. The criticisms were similar to those levied by Juhaiman al Utaiba in his pamphlets circulated the year before his seizure of the Grand Mosque. Some Shia were specifically concerned with the economic disparities between Sunnis and Shia, particularly since their population is concentrated in the Eastern Province, which is the source of the oil wealth controlled by the Sunni Al Saud of Najd. During the riots that occurred in the Eastern Province in 1979, demands were raised to halt oil supplies and to redistribute the oil wealth so that the Shia would receive a more equitable share.


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    OOO i heard about those shia from eastern province of saudi arabia.. most of them were young and foolish .. i remember one of those who done rebilion with others were at age between 25 and 15 ..

    most of these small incidents are not worth telling 'coz we citizen hardly hear about it some thinks its rumor ...which means its already beeing cleaned by the government and its not a threat anymore ..

    thanks for sharing info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wafi View Post
    OOO i heard about those shia from eastern province of saudi arabia.. most of them were young and foolish .. i remember one of those who done rebilion with others were at age between 25 and 15 ..

    most of these small incidents are not worth telling 'coz we citizen hardly hear about it some thinks its rumor ...which means its already beeing cleaned by the government and its not a threat anymore ..

    thanks for sharing info.

    wafi
    I've heard, it's not backed up by facts so take it as a rumor, that on that day a prince of Saudi Arabia was on omra.
    The story goes that this prince had a gun in his possession (I don't know how he kept his gun) and once the attack began he tool out his gun and shot a couple of them till he died.
    Again I don't know if its true or not but Allah Knows best.
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    The Saudis clamped a complete ban on local as well as international news networks to cover this incident. Some say that these guyz were infiltrators from Iran, some say they wanted to topple the Saudi regime, God knows what was that all about.

    BUT my belief is if Mahdi Alaiha-salaam will show up, Allah will provide him complete protection as prophesied by Prophet Mohammad s.a.w.w.
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    Quote Originally Posted by - Qatada - View Post

    ...

    The Muslim Ummah was stunned. Was it even concievable that a group of Muslims take the Haram itself hostage?

    Walikum asalam wa rehmatullahi wa barakatuh!
    It clearly was a shocking incident, the first time I heard it. I did hear a couple of news of bloodshed near the kaaba but this news was new for me.
    Abouting holding kaaba as a hostage, i wasn't that stunned.

    Kaaba was stoned heavily and nearly demolished by Muslim army consisting of Syrians at the time of ruler Yaazid due to political issues!


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    After deliberating over the call of this illegid Mahdi and the various signs the hadith had predicted he had, and also taking into account
    Quote Originally Posted by - Qatada - View Post
    the tactics that this group was using to spread the call - the Highest Council of Senior Scholars issued a Fatwa (Religious Verdict) stating that these people were renegades, and that it was permissible to launch an offensive attack against these rebels in order that this Haram be rid of them.

    Masha Allah! Allah helped the learned Ulemas to find out the truth and issue a fatwa against him. Must have been really challenging! =] I would have loved to read about how the Ulemas arrived at the fatwa but of course there is nothing provided for that.

    What is this nowadays "Highest Council of Senior Scholars" called? Is it in Makkah? How do the Saudi government form it when the need arises? Umm...it might come across as a silly question but i really want to know?

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    Re: The Mahdi?

    Bismillah Hir Rahman Nir Raheem!

    My brothers and sisters!
    I've read a good deal about this topic and will share a few things with you (if Allah wills) =]
    I keep searching about this topic more and more because of the worst condition in which Muslims are today (keeping recent Gaza attacks in account).
    So Imam Mahdi, sort of comes as an assurance and a hope for me given by Allah! Imam Mahdi is the hope given to us by Allah to reestablish the Khilafah once again which muslims of today are so incapable of. And even if the Caliphate gets established, there are still many questions pertaining to that as to what "version" it will be? The rules and regulations, the halal entertainment, the education system revamp etc!
    And Imam Mahdi will be guided by Allah in his decisions. Allah has given him a lot of knowledge of science and fiqh and he would be the best one at the time to understand islam in its true colours!
    All we would be needing to do is to follow the Caliph of Allah with pure heart!

    To be frank, that person looks like a bafoon to me (may Allah forgive me) because of his getup and hair! I mean Allah's beloved people are anything but beautiful. It is hard to explain! Allah gives people a glow in their face and their face shines! like a star. We kno Prophet's face used to shine even brighter than the moon. Maybe its a description from the "lover's" eye but there is a special kind of "noor" on such high, spiritual people's face! And their very personality gives you an evidence as to the their truth! SUBHAN ALLAH!

    Beloved Rasool Allah has given a LOT OF description of the features of Imam Mahdi. Read Mishkat Al Madhabi (Chapter "the end of times") and you find it all in there!
    Hadith like Imam Mahdi's body is like that of Bani-Israeli but him being from Prophet's progeny and complexion like that of an arab. And there are MANY ahadith. If you people want, i can share them here insha Allah as long as i'm free.

    So one thing to asure yourself with is that Imam Mahdi is a very beautiful person, more so because the "noor" lights up his face and his manners are like that of Rasool Allah (s.a.w)!!!
    Anyone who is like Rasool Allah is the most beautifcul person amongst the people of his time!

    And also that the good slaves of Allah would "know" that that person really is Mahdi!


    The links given in the very frst post are broken. What to do about that? Jazakumullahu Khairan!

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    Black Flags would come from Khurasan and the Khalifa of Allah (Imam Mahdi) would be among them! Khurasan is the region which covers the whole of Afghanistan, north eastern province of Iran and the a narrow strip of the north western region of Pakistan. here is a map for details...

    khurasan.jpg

    P.s: How to post bigger pictures? lol


    I've a lot of interest in the topic of Mahdi and would look forward to more posts from you people! =]


    About the treasures of Kaaba' I don't know what they are. I mean hadith has a different kind of meaning. It might be that the treasure is a spiritual one and not a material one. For example, there is a hadith which mentions that the river Eupharates would be dried up near the end of times revealing a mountain of gold and people would fight for it and there will be much bloodshed and if 100 people are fighting for it, 99 would die! so one author Harun Yahya (i don't agree with everything he says. just giving a refernce) says that a dam was bulit on Eupharates which dried it all and oil wells were discovered in it etc...

    So maybe the "treasures of Kaaba" is something like that. Allahu Alam!

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    Re: The Mahdi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Masuma View Post
    Black Flags would come from Khurasan and the Khalifa of Allah (Imam Mahdi) would be among them!
    There's no sahih riwayah that show obviously when and where Imam Mahdi will come from. But there are three opinions among ulama.

    First. Imam mahdi will come from east. It's explained by Ibn Katsir.
    Second. Imam Mahdi will come from west, or Maghribi. This is explained by Imam Al-Qurthubi.
    Third. Imam Mahdi is Madinah resident who move to Makah. (but this is based on hadith that not sahih)

    Imam Mahdi will come from Khurasan?. I never heard about it. But I often heard that Dajjal will come from Khurasan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    ...there are three opinions among ulama.

    First. Imam mahdi will come from east. It's explained by Ibn Katsir.
    Second. Imam Mahdi will come from west, or Maghribi. This is explained by Imam Al-Qurthubi.
    Third. Imam Mahdi is Madinah resident who move to Makah. (but this is based on hadith that not sahih)
    Are these opinions of the "Ulemas" based on weak (dai'f ahadith)? What are the bases on which they formed these opinions?


    Quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    ...Imam Mahdi will come from Khurasan?. I never heard about it.
    On the authority of Thawbaan (May Allah be pleased with him), the Messenger of Allah said:
    "If you see the Black Banners coming from Khurasan go to them immediately, even if you must crawl over ice, because indeed amongst them is the Caliph, Al Mahdi." [Narrated on authority of Ibn Majah, Al-Hakim, Ahmad ibn Hanbal]

    Related by Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet Sallallahu ‘Alaihi Wa Sallam said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Jerusalem where they will erect their flags." (Tirmidhi)


    Quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    ...There's no sahih riwayah that show obviously when and where Imam Mahdi will come from.
    "obviously when?" yes, no hadith tells exactly when but the hadiths do point out from where...

    Quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    ...But I often heard that Dajjal will come from Khurasan.
    Yes, Dajjal and his army will also rise from Khurasan.

    Jazakumullahu khairan!


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