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    niqab...what do you think? (OP)


    asalamualykum warhmatulahi wabarakthu

    Is it faraz upon the believing women to wear a niqqab? If yes is there any hadith's to prove this?

    I wear the niqqab yeah (im not trying to big myself up or anyfin) but some of my mates feel that it's not faraz whereas i feel it is, but they mentioned that if you don't wear it in Hajj then im sure you don't need to wear it when you not in Hajj :sister:

    discuss please

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    niqab...what do you think?

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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by amani View Post

    whats the evidence on the other side?
    warahmatullahi wabarakatuh,

    Ibn 'Umar reported: "Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) forbade women pilgrims from wearing gloves, veils, and clothes dyed with saffron or warse. (A sweet smelling plant that was used to dye clothes yellow) Besides these, they may
    wear anything else, any color, silk clothes, ornaments, trousers, or a shirt or shoes." (Reported by Abu Daw'ud, Al-Baihaqi and Al-Hakim, with a sound chain of authorities)

    NOTE: Had the face and hands been considered part of the awrah the Prophet (SAW) would have never told the woman not to wear them for hajj. And the hadith is authentic.

    Another hadith which back this up is a hadith from Bukhari.

    Narrated 'Abdullah bin Umar:

    A person stood up and asked, "O Allah's: Apostle! What clothes may be worn in the state of Ihram?" The Prophet replied, "Do not wear a shirt or trousers, or any headgear (e.g. a turban), or a hooded cloak; but if somebody has no shoes he can wear leather stockings provided they are cut short off the ankles, and also, do not wear anything perfumed with Wars or saffron, and the Muhrima (a woman in the state of Ihram) should not cover her face, or wear gloves."

    (Bukhari Volume 3, Book 29, Number 64: )


    Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

    Asma, daughter of AbuBakr, entered upon the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) wearing thin clothes. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) turned his attention from her. He said: O Asma', when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to her face and hands.

    (Abu Dawud Book 32, Number 4092: and this hadith is Sahih) It is also graded Authentic by Al Albani


    In addition don't get me wrong, i also wear the niqaab to the best of my capability due to circumstances.
    niqab...what do you think?

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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    format_quote Originally Posted by amani View Post

    Okay sis. Im gan ask u a question....no im being serious.

    If I have a intention to wear the niqab once I am married. Do u think Allah will let me off (not punish) for not wearing it now?


    im not qualified to answer your question, sorry.:loving:

    but whos to say that we will live till we are married?
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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Silver Pearl View Post
    warahmatullahi wabarakatuh,

    Ibn 'Umar reported: "Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) forbade women pilgrims from wearing gloves, veils, and clothes dyed with saffron or warse. (A sweet smelling plant that was used to dye clothes yellow) Besides these, they may
    wear anything else, any color, silk clothes, ornaments, trousers, or a shirt or shoes." (Reported by Abu Daw'ud, Al-Baihaqi and Al-Hakim, with a sound chain of authorities)

    NOTE: Had the face and hands been considered part of the awrah the Prophet (SAW) would have never told the woman not to wear them for hajj. And the hadith is authentic.

    Another hadith which back this up is a hadith from Bukhari.

    Narrated 'Abdullah bin Umar:

    A person stood up and asked, "O Allah's: Apostle! What clothes may be worn in the state of Ihram?" The Prophet replied, "Do not wear a shirt or trousers, or any headgear (e.g. a turban), or a hooded cloak; but if somebody has no shoes he can wear leather stockings provided they are cut short off the ankles, and also, do not wear anything perfumed with Wars or saffron, and the Muhrima (a woman in the state of Ihram) should not cover her face, or wear gloves."

    (Bukhari Volume 3, Book 29, Number 64: )


    Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

    Asma, daughter of AbuBakr, entered upon the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) wearing thin clothes. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) turned his attention from her. He said: O Asma', when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to her face and hands.

    (Abu Dawud Book 32, Number 4092: and this hadith is Sahih) It is also graded Authentic by Al Albani


    In addition don't get me wrong, i also wear the niqaab to the best of my capability due to circumstances.


    ys this is for hajj/umrah
    what did the women do when men passed them during this time?
    show their face or cover?
    niqab...what do you think?

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    Re: niqab...what do you think?


    I agree with the opinion that the niqaab is wajib. I agree with this for a number of reasons. The beauty of the women is her FACE.

    Lets say a brother was looking to get married. One brother comes to him and says “well brother I know this sister, Masha Allah a very good sister! She has a beautiful feet but her face is not so attractive.” And another brother comes to him and says “O brother I know this other sister that has beautiful face but very ugly feet”….who do you think the brother is going to go for?? Bear in mind I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT LEVEL OF DEEN HERE. Just think for a minute about that.

    Nevertheless I don’t think that a sister that doesn’t COVER her FACE is committing a SIN. If she is able to cover then she should do INSHA ALLAH Allah will reward her and she will be a WALKING VERSE. Just like the WIVES OF THE PROPHET.

    If you’re A PART-TIME NIQAABI be ONE until Allah gives you the ability to wear it FULL-TIME. We sisters should COVER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE INSHA ALLAH.


    Must a Woman Wear Niqab (Veil)?


    The general understanding in Islam regarding Sunnah, is that if the Prophet or any of his wives (RA) or companions (RA) are recorded in authentic hadith to have engaged in an act that is not haram (prohibited) as defined by Qur'an or Sunnah, then the act is declared halal (permissible). If the companions engaged in an act that the Prophet was aware of and did not speak out against, it is halal.
    It is well-known that the wives of the Prophet covered their faces any time non-mahram men were near. A woman named Asma, who was not a wife of the Prophet , was also recorded as covering her face. Easily, one can conclude that wearing veil is halal (permissible).
    However, Muslims and Muslimahs across the world have been in "hot debate" for centuries, over the issue of whether or not covering the face is obligatory upon a Muslimah. Those who argue that it is not required, point to the use of the word khimar in the Qur'an, and explain that today's modern khimar does not cover the face, and argue that khimar has never referred to the covering of the face, but only to that of the hair, neck, and bosoms. While one cannot deny the support of Hadith that indicate that the Prophet's wives wore khimar, one must realize that they also covered their faces at all times in the presence of non-mahram men.
    The group of scholars agree that it is a highly recommended act to cover the face. The scholars also agree that a woman must cover her adornment, yet some scholars argue that this does not include the face.
    BASING ON CULTURE VS. QURAN AND SUNNAH. ...Most Muslim men, even in America, would be pleased if their wives veil, but some state that a veil draws too much attention, causing men to look upon her more than normal. However, one must realize that when men 'look', they have nothing of her to see! Regardless, this issue must stick to understanding and implementing Qur'an and Sunnah, and not making excuses based on the current culture. Muslims are ordered not to imitate the dress of any non-Muslim culture, so, surely, we cannot make the choice to wear Niqab based on the pressures of modern day society; instead, we choose, insha'Allah, to fear Allah, swt, and not mankind!
    When in a state of ihram, the muslimah cannot wear niqab. However, according to several scholars, such as Sheikh ibn Baz, even when in a state of ihram, "she should lower her headcovering or outer cloak over her face when she is in the presence of non-mahram men." So, it is to say that she should not cover her face around the other women during ihram, but that she should cover it if a non-mahram man approaches. He bases this on the hadith below, narrated by 'Aisha .
    · In Fathul Bari, chapter Hajj, a tradition reported on the authority of Aisha (RA) says:
    o "A woman in a state of Ihram (during Hajj and Umrah) should stretch her head - cloth over to her face to hide it."
    · Hadith - Recorded by Ahmad, Abu Dawud and ibn Majah, Narrated 'Aisha. [In his work Jilbab al-Marah al-Muslimah, al-Albani states (p. 108) that it is hasan due to corroborating evidence. Also, in a narration from Asma, Asma also covered her face at all times in front of men.]
    o Narrated 'Aisha (RA) who said, "The riders would pass us while we were with the Messenger of Allah ). When they got close to us, we would draw our outer cloak from our heads over our faces. When they passed by, we would uncover our faces."
    According to Shaikh ibn Uthaimin, "she is not required to cover her face during the prayer unless there are non-related men around her. She must then cover her face from them, as it is not allowed for a woman to uncover her face except to her husband and her male relatives i.e., mahram."
    If a woman is not around any non-mahram men and does not fear that any will enter her area of salah, she may reveal her face and hands. This is agreed upon by the group of scholars.
    So, whether agreeing that niqab is required or not, one must surely acknowledge that it is a desirous sign of piety. What better example of sunnah to follow for a muslimah than that of the Prophet and his wives RA. Every Muslimah is encouraged to cover to the fullest, showing only one or both eyes.
    A woman does not have to wear a niqab (affixed veil), but she should emulate the female companions by using her hijab or other items, to lift and cover her face when a non-mahram man approaches, even during ihram (hajj), as this is in accordance with sunnah.
    Hadith - Muwatta 20.16
    Yahya related to me from Malik from Hisham ibn Urwa that Fatima bint al-Mundhir said, "We used to veil our faces when we were in ihram in the company of Asma bint Abi Bakr as-Siddiq."
    The following Fatawa is from Sheikh Ibn Uthaimin:
    "The Islamic hijab is for the women to cover everything that is forbidden for her to expose. That is, she covers everything that she must cover.
    "The first of those bodily parts that she must cover is her face. It is the source of temptation and the source of people desiring her. Therefore, the woman must cover her face in front of those men that are not Mahram (i.e. father, huband, etc.).
    "As for those who claim that Islamic hijab is to cover the head, shoulders, back, feet, shin and forearms while allowing her to uncover her face and hands, this is a very amazing claim. This is because it is well-known that the source of temptation and looking is the face. How can one say that the Shariah does no allow the exposure of the foot of the woman while it allows her to uncover her face?
    "It is not possible that there could be in the Esteemed, Wise and Noble Shariah a contradiction. Yet everyone knows that the temptation from uncovering the face is much greater than the temptation that results from the uncovering of the feet. Everyone also knows that the most sought after aspect of the woman for men is the face. If you told a prospective groom that a woman’s face is ugly but her feet are beautiful, he would not propose to such a woman.
    "However, if you told him that her face was beautiful but her hands, palms, or shins were less than beautiful, he would still propose to her. From this one can conclude that the face is the first thing that must be covered.
    "There are also evidences from the Book of Allah (SWT) and the Sunnah of our Prophet (SAW). There are also statements from the Companions, the leading Imams and the great scholars of Islam that indicate that it is obligatory for the woman to cover all of her body in the presence of non-Mahram men. This obviously indicates that it is obligatory upon the woman to cover her face in front of such men."


    Refutation For those who claim niqaab is not wajib and the face and hands of a woman can be seen by (ghairMahrrum) strange men.

    Refutation from Shaikh Ibn Uthaymeen
    This is taken from the book "Hijaab" by Shaikh Ibn Uthaymeen from Saudi Arabia. Printed by Madrasah Arabia Islamia Azaadville- South Africa.
    Translated by Hafedh Zaheer Essack, Rajab 1416 (December 1995)
    The Ulamah who are of the opinion that it is permissible to look at the face and hands of a strange woman (who is not mahrrum) say so mainly for the following reasons.
    The hadeeth of Ayeshah (Radhiallaahu Ánha) when Asmaa (Radhiallaahu Ánha) the daughter of Abu Bakr came to the Rasulullaah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands. But this hadeeth is WEAK because of 2 main weaknesses.
    1. There is no link between Ayeshah (Radhiallaahu Ánha) and Khalid bin Dareek, who narrated the hadith from her. And in every chain of narrators Khalid bin Dareek is mentioned.
    2. In the chain of narrators Sa'eed bin Basheer appears, who is known by most of the Muhaditheen as being a weak narrator.
    This has been mentioned by Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal (Rahimahullah), An-Nasai (Rahimahullah), Ibn Madeeni (Rahimahullah) and Ibn Ma'een (Rahimahullah). This is also why Imaam Bukhari (Rahimahullah) and Muslim (Rahimahullah) did not except this hadeeth to be in their books. (From Shaikh Ibn Uthaymeen in the book "Hijaab" pages # 17 and 18.)
    We also have to see that the Muhadith Abu Dawood when he quoted this hadeeth put with it that it is Mursal (with a broken chain that does not lead up to the Sahabah).
    (From The Book "Hijaab wa Safur" under the fatwaa of Shaikh Abdul Aziz Bin Bazz on Page #61. Also stated as being weak by Shaikh Nasiruddeen Al-Albaani in his Daeef Sunan Abu Dawud in Kitab-ul-Libas under hadeeth number 4092 (which is the original hadeeth number.)
    An other thing that shows the weakness of this hadith is that after the ayah for hijab (Surah Al-Ahzaab – Verse #59) was revealed then the women of Sahaba wore a complete veil and covered the faces and hands. This includes Asmaa (Radhiallaahu Ánha) the daughter of Abu Bakr, who is supposed to have narrated this hadeeth. Asmaa (Radhiallaahu Ánha) covered herself completely including the face, this has been narrated in authentic hadeeth in Imaam Malik's "MUWATTA Book 20 Hadeeth # 20.5.16."


    What Age Must a Female Wear Niqab?


    It is unquestionable that a female must begin covering by the age of puberty. What is not agreed upon is what exact age that is. Some say that covering commences the day of her first menstrual cycle, others say at the first sign of pubic hairs. Those weak in iman (faith) will look at the kafir system's designation of "teenager" as the age of puberty, i.e. they use the age 13.
    In all situations, Muslims are to use the Prophet's example for guidance. The Prophet married 'Aisha before she had reached puberty and consummated the marriage when she was approximately 9 years old. We do not know precisely what he used to determine that she reached puberty, and we don't even know the exact age that he consummate the marriage, so the issue of puberty is not necessarily a clear cut age to be applied universally to all, but a recognition of the change to woman from child. The earliest pregnancy recorded was that of a seven year old girl, and we know that a menstral cycle does not have to start before some are capable of becoming pregnant. May Allah swt guide each parent to adequately prepare the daughter in time. Amin.
    If a mother or father recently converts to Islam and has a daughter who has reached puberty, s/he should immediately begin covering the daughter. The parents should educate the daughter to understand and appreciate the reasons and advantages for covering as a Muslimah is instructed to. The new revert to Islam should not feel apologetic for covering a daughter who was not previously covering. It is as much of an advantage to her as to the new adult muslimah revert, and children do not always know what is best for them, so, like other decisions you make daily for your children, do not leave the issue of wearing hijab up to your children. Make the transition as a family, not you first, then just hoping the children follow suit on their own.
    Some guidelines for preparing a child for hijab.
    · It is encouraged that as soon as the child is able to walk, she does not wear clothes that resemble the kafr, and that she should always have her knees and as much as possible of the arms and legs covered when leaving the house or having guests over.
    · She should be taught modesty in behavior and dress from the cradle.
    · It is ideal to sew small jilbabs (light overcoats) and khimaar (head/neck/chest covering) for the young muslimah, properly preparing her for full coverage at puberty. It is actually less fitnah on the parent to dress her in the simple attire of a muslim, as compared to looking for fashionable clothes in a shopping mall.
    · At the age of 7, the parent should order her to pray salah, and of course, she must be wearing hijab (the entire head and body covering) for the salah.
    · By the age of 10, her parents may and should punish her for missing fard (obligatory) salah, and once again, she must be wearing hijab to perform salah.
    · When she reaches puberty, insha'Allah, she will wear niqab (literally: draw the khimaar over her face).
    · By the age of puberty, she should already be used to wearing hijab (which is in her fitrah [natural state] to be covered).
    · She may have already chosen to veil prior to reaching puberty, and with the proper instruction, she will look forward to and embrace this step in becoming a young woman.
    · Hijab is not something a muslim parent gives as an option to a child. The muslim parent is responsible for seeing that the young muslimah is properly covered according to Qur'an and Sunnah.
    · Parents will have to determine when their daughter has reached puberty, not the child, unless of course, she is a muslim revert with non-Muslim parents, in which case she should seek the counsel of a muslim wali.
    Depending on a woman's environment, she may simply keep her face uncovered and then draw the khimaar up over her face on the rare occasion of a non-mahram's presence; or, if this is too much fitnah to constantly draw it over her face, such as circumstances when men are frequently present, she may choose to affix a screen (i.e. the Niqab) that does this for her without her needing to use a hand to hold it over her face.


    Hadith - Bukhari, Narrated Hishams father
    Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumated that marriage when she was nine years old.


    Hadith - Abu Dawud, narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin
    [Also recorded al-Tirmidhi, Ahmad, and ibn Majah. Al-Albani says it is sahih. Al-Albani, Sahih al-Jami, vol. 2, p. 1280.]
    The Prophet said: Allah does not accept the prayer of a woman who has reached puberty unless she wears a khimaar.
    Hadith - Dawud, Narrated As-Saburah
    [Also recorded by Ahmand and al-Hakim. Al-Syuti has give in a notation signifying that it is authentic. Al-Albani has graded it hasan. Al-Albani, Sahih al-Jami, vol. 2, p. 1021.]
    The Prophet said: Order your children to pray at the age of seven. And beat them [lightly] if they do not do so by the age of ten. And separate them in their bedding.







    Ridiculing a Woman in Niqab


    The Noble Qur'an - At-Taubah 9:64-67
    The hypocrites fear lest a Sûrah (chapter of the Qur'ân) should be revealed about them, showing them what is in their hearts. Say: "(Go ahead and) mock! But certainly Allâh will bring to light all that you fear."
    If you ask them (about this), they declare: "We were only talking idly and joking." Say: "Was it at Allâh (swt), and His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?"
    Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were Mujrimûn (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals, etc.).
    The hypocrites, men and women, are from one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief and polytheism of all kinds and all that Islâm has forbidden), and forbid (people) from Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do), and they close their hands [from giving (spending in Allâh's Cause) alms, etc.]. They have forgotten Allâh, so He has forgotten them. Verily, the hypocrites are the Fâsiqûn (rebellious, disobedient to Allâh).

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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    format_quote Originally Posted by metsudaistwice View Post
    sis ameeratul layl its not that hard to put on the niqaab
    wasalam


    I don't mean any offense to you brother, but how would you know? Wearing hijab is like fighting some kind of war and abaya, another one and niqab is yet another one. Some girls find it easy to wear, and that's good on them Al-Hamdulilah, but I'm the ONLY one out of all my close and distant relatives who wears hijab. Its killer... I walk out, and its THEM calling me a terrorist.issed: They also call me an extremist, or as they love to say, "... a little arabic girl." They think I'm selling pakistanis out by wearing a hijab and jelbab.:angry3: My mom used to wear the full burka, but because she was forced to, she hated it and as soon as she came to america, off it went. She thinks I'm oppressing myself with the hijab and hates to see me wear it. Some sisters have no one to look to for inspiration when it comes to hijab so that, yes, makes it very hard to start wearing the hijab or niqab. No offense but I just don't like hearing people, especially brothers saying its easy. You have no idea what its like.

    Okay, I had to get that off my chest, but no disrespect was intended, I swear.

    On topic, I'd love to wear the niqab. But I've asked some people (sheikhs at school) and they say that no one can ever say its fard 'cause we'll never know. I'm not too sure about that but I do believe niqab should be considered by all sisters. I see no harm, but only gain, so insha'allah, I'll as well as all other sisters who wish to wear it will start soon.

    Once again, I didn't mean any disrespect to anyone. Happy Ramadan. :rose:

    niqab...what do you think?


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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    format_quote Originally Posted by amani View Post


    ys this is for hajj/umrah
    what did the women do when men passed them during this time?
    show their face or cover?


    As far as I know when I went for Hajj We ask from Scholar so he said that women can cover her face if she feels that someone starring her........so she can hide or cover her face for a while like niqab do not touch her face.
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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Jannah View Post

    I agree with the opinion that the niqaab is wajib. I agree with this for a number of reasons. The beauty of the women is her FACE.

    Lets say a brother was looking to get married. One brother comes to him and says “well brother I know this sister, Masha Allah a very good sister! She has a beautiful feet but her face is not so attractive.” And another brother comes to him and says “O brother I know this other sister that has beautiful face but very ugly feet”….who do you think the brother is going to go for?? Bear in mind I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT LEVEL OF DEEN HERE. Just think for a minute about that.

    Nevertheless I don’t think that a sister that doesn’t COVER her FACE is committing a SIN. If she is able to cover then she should do INSHA ALLAH Allah will reward her and she will be a WALKING VERSE. Just like the WIVES OF THE PROPHET.

    If you’re A PART-TIME NIQAABI be ONE until Allah gives you the ability to wear it FULL-TIME. We sisters should COVER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE INSHA ALLAH.


    Must a Woman Wear Niqab (Veil)?


    The general understanding in Islam regarding Sunnah, is that if the Prophet or any of his wives (RA) or companions (RA) are recorded in authentic hadith to have engaged in an act that is not haram (prohibited) as defined by Qur'an or Sunnah, then the act is declared halal (permissible). If the companions engaged in an act that the Prophet was aware of and did not speak out against, it is halal.
    It is well-known that the wives of the Prophet covered their faces any time non-mahram men were near. A woman named Asma, who was not a wife of the Prophet , was also recorded as covering her face. Easily, one can conclude that wearing veil is halal (permissible).
    However, Muslims and Muslimahs across the world have been in "hot debate" for centuries, over the issue of whether or not covering the face is obligatory upon a Muslimah. Those who argue that it is not required, point to the use of the word khimar in the Qur'an, and explain that today's modern khimar does not cover the face, and argue that khimar has never referred to the covering of the face, but only to that of the hair, neck, and bosoms. While one cannot deny the support of Hadith that indicate that the Prophet's wives wore khimar, one must realize that they also covered their faces at all times in the presence of non-mahram men.
    The group of scholars agree that it is a highly recommended act to cover the face. The scholars also agree that a woman must cover her adornment, yet some scholars argue that this does not include the face.
    BASING ON CULTURE VS. QURAN AND SUNNAH. ...Most Muslim men, even in America, would be pleased if their wives veil, but some state that a veil draws too much attention, causing men to look upon her more than normal. However, one must realize that when men 'look', they have nothing of her to see! Regardless, this issue must stick to understanding and implementing Qur'an and Sunnah, and not making excuses based on the current culture. Muslims are ordered not to imitate the dress of any non-Muslim culture, so, surely, we cannot make the choice to wear Niqab based on the pressures of modern day society; instead, we choose, insha'Allah, to fear Allah, swt, and not mankind!
    When in a state of ihram, the muslimah cannot wear niqab. However, according to several scholars, such as Sheikh ibn Baz, even when in a state of ihram, "she should lower her headcovering or outer cloak over her face when she is in the presence of non-mahram men." So, it is to say that she should not cover her face around the other women during ihram, but that she should cover it if a non-mahram man approaches. He bases this on the hadith below, narrated by 'Aisha .
    · In Fathul Bari, chapter Hajj, a tradition reported on the authority of Aisha (RA) says:
    o "A woman in a state of Ihram (during Hajj and Umrah) should stretch her head - cloth over to her face to hide it."
    · Hadith - Recorded by Ahmad, Abu Dawud and ibn Majah, Narrated 'Aisha. [In his work Jilbab al-Marah al-Muslimah, al-Albani states (p. 108) that it is hasan due to corroborating evidence. Also, in a narration from Asma, Asma also covered her face at all times in front of men.]
    o Narrated 'Aisha (RA) who said, "The riders would pass us while we were with the Messenger of Allah ). When they got close to us, we would draw our outer cloak from our heads over our faces. When they passed by, we would uncover our faces."
    According to Shaikh ibn Uthaimin, "she is not required to cover her face during the prayer unless there are non-related men around her. She must then cover her face from them, as it is not allowed for a woman to uncover her face except to her husband and her male relatives i.e., mahram."
    If a woman is not around any non-mahram men and does not fear that any will enter her area of salah, she may reveal her face and hands. This is agreed upon by the group of scholars.
    So, whether agreeing that niqab is required or not, one must surely acknowledge that it is a desirous sign of piety. What better example of sunnah to follow for a muslimah than that of the Prophet and his wives RA. Every Muslimah is encouraged to cover to the fullest, showing only one or both eyes.
    A woman does not have to wear a niqab (affixed veil), but she should emulate the female companions by using her hijab or other items, to lift and cover her face when a non-mahram man approaches, even during ihram (hajj), as this is in accordance with sunnah.
    Hadith - Muwatta 20.16
    Yahya related to me from Malik from Hisham ibn Urwa that Fatima bint al-Mundhir said, "We used to veil our faces when we were in ihram in the company of Asma bint Abi Bakr as-Siddiq."
    The following Fatawa is from Sheikh Ibn Uthaimin:
    "The Islamic hijab is for the women to cover everything that is forbidden for her to expose. That is, she covers everything that she must cover.
    "The first of those bodily parts that she must cover is her face. It is the source of temptation and the source of people desiring her. Therefore, the woman must cover her face in front of those men that are not Mahram (i.e. father, huband, etc.).
    "As for those who claim that Islamic hijab is to cover the head, shoulders, back, feet, shin and forearms while allowing her to uncover her face and hands, this is a very amazing claim. This is because it is well-known that the source of temptation and looking is the face. How can one say that the Shariah does no allow the exposure of the foot of the woman while it allows her to uncover her face?
    "It is not possible that there could be in the Esteemed, Wise and Noble Shariah a contradiction. Yet everyone knows that the temptation from uncovering the face is much greater than the temptation that results from the uncovering of the feet. Everyone also knows that the most sought after aspect of the woman for men is the face. If you told a prospective groom that a woman’s face is ugly but her feet are beautiful, he would not propose to such a woman.
    "However, if you told him that her face was beautiful but her hands, palms, or shins were less than beautiful, he would still propose to her. From this one can conclude that the face is the first thing that must be covered.
    "There are also evidences from the Book of Allah (SWT) and the Sunnah of our Prophet (SAW). There are also statements from the Companions, the leading Imams and the great scholars of Islam that indicate that it is obligatory for the woman to cover all of her body in the presence of non-Mahram men. This obviously indicates that it is obligatory upon the woman to cover her face in front of such men."


    Refutation For those who claim niqaab is not wajib and the face and hands of a woman can be seen by (ghairMahrrum) strange men.

    Refutation from Shaikh Ibn Uthaymeen
    This is taken from the book "Hijaab" by Shaikh Ibn Uthaymeen from Saudi Arabia. Printed by Madrasah Arabia Islamia Azaadville- South Africa.
    Translated by Hafedh Zaheer Essack, Rajab 1416 (December 1995)
    The Ulamah who are of the opinion that it is permissible to look at the face and hands of a strange woman (who is not mahrrum) say so mainly for the following reasons.
    The hadeeth of Ayeshah (Radhiallaahu Ánha) when Asmaa (Radhiallaahu Ánha) the daughter of Abu Bakr came to the Rasulullaah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands. But this hadeeth is WEAK because of 2 main weaknesses.
    1. There is no link between Ayeshah (Radhiallaahu Ánha) and Khalid bin Dareek, who narrated the hadith from her. And in every chain of narrators Khalid bin Dareek is mentioned.
    2. In the chain of narrators Sa'eed bin Basheer appears, who is known by most of the Muhaditheen as being a weak narrator.
    This has been mentioned by Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal (Rahimahullah), An-Nasai (Rahimahullah), Ibn Madeeni (Rahimahullah) and Ibn Ma'een (Rahimahullah). This is also why Imaam Bukhari (Rahimahullah) and Muslim (Rahimahullah) did not except this hadeeth to be in their books. (From Shaikh Ibn Uthaymeen in the book "Hijaab" pages # 17 and 18.)
    We also have to see that the Muhadith Abu Dawood when he quoted this hadeeth put with it that it is Mursal (with a broken chain that does not lead up to the Sahabah).
    (From The Book "Hijaab wa Safur" under the fatwaa of Shaikh Abdul Aziz Bin Bazz on Page #61. Also stated as being weak by Shaikh Nasiruddeen Al-Albaani in his Daeef Sunan Abu Dawud in Kitab-ul-Libas under hadeeth number 4092 (which is the original hadeeth number.)
    An other thing that shows the weakness of this hadith is that after the ayah for hijab (Surah Al-Ahzaab – Verse #59) was revealed then the women of Sahaba wore a complete veil and covered the faces and hands. This includes Asmaa (Radhiallaahu Ánha) the daughter of Abu Bakr, who is supposed to have narrated this hadeeth. Asmaa (Radhiallaahu Ánha) covered herself completely including the face, this has been narrated in authentic hadeeth in Imaam Malik's "MUWATTA Book 20 Hadeeth # 20.5.16."


    What Age Must a Female Wear Niqab?


    It is unquestionable that a female must begin covering by the age of puberty. What is not agreed upon is what exact age that is. Some say that covering commences the day of her first menstrual cycle, others say at the first sign of pubic hairs. Those weak in iman (faith) will look at the kafir system's designation of "teenager" as the age of puberty, i.e. they use the age 13.
    In all situations, Muslims are to use the Prophet's example for guidance. The Prophet married 'Aisha before she had reached puberty and consummated the marriage when she was approximately 9 years old. We do not know precisely what he used to determine that she reached puberty, and we don't even know the exact age that he consummate the marriage, so the issue of puberty is not necessarily a clear cut age to be applied universally to all, but a recognition of the change to woman from child. The earliest pregnancy recorded was that of a seven year old girl, and we know that a menstral cycle does not have to start before some are capable of becoming pregnant. May Allah swt guide each parent to adequately prepare the daughter in time. Amin.
    If a mother or father recently converts to Islam and has a daughter who has reached puberty, s/he should immediately begin covering the daughter. The parents should educate the daughter to understand and appreciate the reasons and advantages for covering as a Muslimah is instructed to. The new revert to Islam should not feel apologetic for covering a daughter who was not previously covering. It is as much of an advantage to her as to the new adult muslimah revert, and children do not always know what is best for them, so, like other decisions you make daily for your children, do not leave the issue of wearing hijab up to your children. Make the transition as a family, not you first, then just hoping the children follow suit on their own.
    Some guidelines for preparing a child for hijab.
    · It is encouraged that as soon as the child is able to walk, she does not wear clothes that resemble the kafr, and that she should always have her knees and as much as possible of the arms and legs covered when leaving the house or having guests over.
    · She should be taught modesty in behavior and dress from the cradle.
    · It is ideal to sew small jilbabs (light overcoats) and khimaar (head/neck/chest covering) for the young muslimah, properly preparing her for full coverage at puberty. It is actually less fitnah on the parent to dress her in the simple attire of a muslim, as compared to looking for fashionable clothes in a shopping mall.
    · At the age of 7, the parent should order her to pray salah, and of course, she must be wearing hijab (the entire head and body covering) for the salah.
    · By the age of 10, her parents may and should punish her for missing fard (obligatory) salah, and once again, she must be wearing hijab to perform salah.
    · When she reaches puberty, insha'Allah, she will wear niqab (literally: draw the khimaar over her face).
    · By the age of puberty, she should already be used to wearing hijab (which is in her fitrah [natural state] to be covered).
    · She may have already chosen to veil prior to reaching puberty, and with the proper instruction, she will look forward to and embrace this step in becoming a young woman.
    · Hijab is not something a muslim parent gives as an option to a child. The muslim parent is responsible for seeing that the young muslimah is properly covered according to Qur'an and Sunnah.
    · Parents will have to determine when their daughter has reached puberty, not the child, unless of course, she is a muslim revert with non-Muslim parents, in which case she should seek the counsel of a muslim wali.
    Depending on a woman's environment, she may simply keep her face uncovered and then draw the khimaar up over her face on the rare occasion of a non-mahram's presence; or, if this is too much fitnah to constantly draw it over her face, such as circumstances when men are frequently present, she may choose to affix a screen (i.e. the Niqab) that does this for her without her needing to use a hand to hold it over her face.


    Hadith - Bukhari, Narrated Hishams father
    Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumated that marriage when she was nine years old.


    Hadith - Abu Dawud, narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin
    [Also recorded al-Tirmidhi, Ahmad, and ibn Majah. Al-Albani says it is sahih. Al-Albani, Sahih al-Jami, vol. 2, p. 1280.]
    The Prophet said: Allah does not accept the prayer of a woman who has reached puberty unless she wears a khimaar.
    Hadith - Dawud, Narrated As-Saburah
    [Also recorded by Ahmand and al-Hakim. Al-Syuti has give in a notation signifying that it is authentic. Al-Albani has graded it hasan. Al-Albani, Sahih al-Jami, vol. 2, p. 1021.]
    The Prophet said: Order your children to pray at the age of seven. And beat them [lightly] if they do not do so by the age of ten. And separate them in their bedding.







    Ridiculing a Woman in Niqab


    The Noble Qur'an - At-Taubah 9:64-67
    The hypocrites fear lest a Sûrah (chapter of the Qur'ân) should be revealed about them, showing them what is in their hearts. Say: "(Go ahead and) mock! But certainly Allâh will bring to light all that you fear."
    If you ask them (about this), they declare: "We were only talking idly and joking." Say: "Was it at Allâh (swt), and His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?"
    Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were Mujrimûn (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals, etc.).
    The hypocrites, men and women, are from one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief and polytheism of all kinds and all that Islâm has forbidden), and forbid (people) from Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do), and they close their hands [from giving (spending in Allâh's Cause) alms, etc.]. They have forgotten Allâh, so He has forgotten them. Verily, the hypocrites are the Fâsiqûn (rebellious, disobedient to Allâh).


    JAZAKALLAH KHAIR SISTER ......it's really informative for me and hope for all members too

    niqab...what do you think?

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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

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    I don't mean any offense to you brother, but how would you know? Wearing hijab is like fighting some kind of war and abaya, another one and niqab is yet another one. Some girls find it easy to wear, and that's good on them Al-Hamdulilah, but I'm the ONLY one out of all my close and distant relatives who wears hijab. Its killer... I walk out, and its THEM calling me a terrorist.issed: They also call me an extremist, or as they love to say, "... a little arabic girl." They think I'm selling pakistanis out by wearing a hijab and jelbab.:angry3: My mom used to wear the full burka, but because she was forced to, she hated it and as soon as she came to america, off it went. She thinks I'm oppressing myself with the hijab and hates to see me wear it. Some sisters have no one to look to for inspiration when it comes to hijab so that, yes, makes it very hard to start wearing the hijab or niqab. No offense but I just don't like hearing people, especially brothers saying its easy. You have no idea what its like.

    Okay, I had to get that off my chest, but no disrespect was intended, I swear.

    On topic, I'd love to wear the niqab. But I've asked some people (sheikhs at school) and they say that no one can ever say its fard 'cause we'll never know. I'm not too sure about that but I do believe niqab should be considered by all sisters. I see no harm, but only gain, so insha'allah, I'll as well as all other sisters who wish to wear it will start soon.

    Once again, I didn't mean any disrespect to anyone. Happy Ramadan. :rose:



    Well sister I hope no body mind it INSHALLAH I think all of my brother and sister saying that it's easy to wear because may be they all want to earn sawab because as far as I know if some one practice anything regarding Islam on someone advice he or she will definitely get the reward for that ......my prayers are with all members and pls pray for me too......because I am also needy

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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    asalamualykum warhmatulahi wabarakthu

    whoaaa!! intresting, very intresting masha Allah i've read all your replies and alhamdulilah i now have a greater understanding of women and the niqqab issue.

    Allah s.w.a knows best and may he help us in all we do ameen!

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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    Assalamu'Alaykum

    I will break my post into 3 major parts

    I. What is Awra
    II. Niqab - Wajib point of view
    III. Niqab- Sunnah point of view

    So stay tuned. Meanwhile i strongly advise us to becareful and speak with knowledge, for speaking w/o knowldge is very dangerous. When we give our "opnion" make sure that we have proof from the Quran & authentic Hadith and Sunnah, and from our Scholors to elaborate further more. Since we do not know how to translate the Quran and interpret ahadith.

    Allah says

    Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful.

    [Al-Naml Ayah 64]

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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    only wear niqab when u r ready to wear it.and for allah(swt) only
    forget what others say.as in islam.a man is not allowed to look at a sisters face.to whom he can get married to.mothers,sisters and aunties and grand parents are the only ones muslim brothers are allowed to look at

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    Assalamu'Alaykum
    brother i dont think we should tell people to make certian act of Worship 'when they are ready' not a very wise thing to do, we are taught that we must haste to do good, not on our own clock. Khair InshAllah

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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    wow is it that necessary for this niqaab?...our women dont cover their faces..

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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    whats better brother
    that there should wear it when there hearts dont want them to wear it.and then forced to take them off.in future
    just take each day as it comes.when one day allah(swt) will give hidayat and there will wear them permanent.

    i have seen so many sisters i know in my relatives just were not ready and started wearing niqab now most of them do no lo longer wear it.back to there lipstick & make up:mad:




    brother i dont think we should tell people to make certian act of Worship 'when they are ready' not a very wise thing to do, we are taught that we must haste to do good, not on our own clock. Khair InshAllah

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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    Assalamu'Alaykum

    Part I - What is 'Awrah



    Bismillaah -hir- Rahman -nir- Raheem

    Firstly, the issue we must look into and understand is 'What is 'Awrah?'


    العورة - Al-'Awrah refers to the parts of the body that must be concealed and covered.


    'Is the entire woman `awrah?' That is, does a woman in her entirety have to cover herself from men who are not related to her.



    'Awrah, in the shari'ah, is said to be certian body parts of a men or a women that can not be shown to non-mahrams.

    2 types of 'awrah

    I. 'awrah in Salaah (prayers)

    II. 'awrah in 'awratu fin nathr ('awrah in looking)

    Imaam Ibn Al Qayyim Al Jawziyy (raheemahullah), explaining the woman's 'awrah said:
    "The 'awrah is of two types: an 'awrah in the Salaah (prayer) and an 'awrah in looking ('awratu fin nathr). So as for the free woman, it is (allowed) for her to pray while her hands and face are uncovered, and it is not (allowed) for her to go out in the markets and gatherings of people like that (i.e. it is not allowed for her to go out without the face and hands covered). *


    Sheikh Ash-Shirwaani said, "[Imaam] Ziyaadi in Sharh Al Muharar said:
    For a woman there is three 'Awrahs,
    'Awratu-fis-Salah (the 'awrah of prayer) – and that was mentioned before – It is everything of the body except the face and the hands.
    The 'Awrah with regards to an un-related man looking at her: It is the entire body including the hands and the face, according to (the opinion that is) relied upon.
    The 'awrah in privacy and amongst her Mahrams (those people related to her and un-marriable): It is like the 'Awrah of men. [i.e. from her navel to her knees].
    So there are different types of `awrah in different situations. In your salah, in front of your family, in front of your husband, etc...



    -The entire body of a woman is 'Awrah except in cases of necessity or actions which are specifically prescribed for the allowance of a woman to uncover her face, such as the Salah, Hajj, 'Umrah, interviewing for marriage, and witnessing (testimony) in the court. The proof that the entire woman is 'awrah is found in the following hadeeth,

    الْمَرْأَةُعَوْرَةٌفَإِذَاخَرَجَتْ اسْتَشْرَفَهَا الشَّيْطَانُ


    "The woman is 'Awrah,when she leaves [her home] Shaytaan looks up to her."


    This hadeeth is reported by Imaam At-Tirmidhi in his Sunan. He stated after the hadeeth, "It is Hasan Saheeh Ghareeb." Similar to it is reported by Imaam At-Tabaraani in his Kabeer, Ibn 'Adiy, Imaam Ibn Khuzaymah in his Saheeh (#1685), Al-Bazzaar in his Musnad (#2061), and Ibn Hibbaan in his Saheeh [#5598]. Imaam 'Ali ibn Abi Bakr Al Haythami said after reporting this hadeeth, "Its men (reporters) are trustworthy." [See Mujma' Az-Zawaa'id #2116] Imaam Muhammad ibn Naasir Al-Albaani stated in his Irwaa' Al Ghaleel, "I say: It is Saheeh (authentic)!" [See Irwaa' Al Ghaleel #273]


    There are a couple of points to be made from this authentic hadith.

    1. The prophet used the ا ل[/SIZE](literally meaning 'the') before the word mara'ah (woman). The significance of this is that the Alif Lam denotes absoluteness. In other words what is understood by placing the AL here is that 'the entirety of the woman' is 'awrah. This statement establishes the principle that the entire woman is 'awrah except where proof is given that she is not.

    2. Also take note that the Nabi states that she is 'awrah when she 'leaves her home'. This is proof for the statement that was quoted earlier from Imaam Ziyaadi and also Ibn Al Qayyim when they stated that the woman is 'Awrah in front of the Ajaanib (non-mahram, un-related, marriegable) man.

    So this right here is the first issue that the scholars deal with and here is the principle that starts it off, ' Is a woman is `awrah' .





    *This can be found in Tahtheeb As-sunan and 'Ilaam Al Muwaqi'een
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    Re: niqab...what do you think?

    Assalamu'Alaykum

    format_quote Originally Posted by montoyauk View Post
    whats better brother
    that there should wear it when there hearts dont want them to wear it.and then forced to take them off.in future
    just take each day as it comes.when one day allah(swt) will give hidayat and there will wear them permanent.

    i have seen so many sisters i know in my relatives just were not ready and started wearing niqab now most of them do no lo longer wear it.back to there lipstick & make up:mad:
    i agree but our approch must be wise. and no dont force, but the word here that we should use is "encorage" remind them of Allah and the last day, let their hearts love the deen and want to please their lord. once we built this, and help them with their Iman, they will then themsleves rush and haste to good deeds InshAllah. beacuse putting off a deed by saying " im not ready" then that will lead to BIG problems. 1. Shaytaan is there to lead us astray and then we have to deal with our "Nafs" desires.

    So if someone doesnt pray, u tell them " its ok pray when u feel that u are ready, and u feel in ur heart that want to pray.

    and brother Hidayah doesnt just come like that, we must also try to want to change ourselves.

    Allah says


    Thus, ‘Verily Allah does not change the condition of a nation until they change themselves’(Quran 13:11).

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    The issue of niqab is not agreed upon in Islam. Some scholars view it as obligatory while there is a large group of scholars that maintain that it is simply a voluntary (sunnah) act, not obligatory.

    Shaykh Nasiruddeen Al-Albani has written a detailed view on why niqab is not obligatory:
    http://www.islamicweb.com/beliefs/wo...bani_niqab.htm

    Shaykh Muhammad Saalih Al-Munajjid meanwhile argues that niqab is obligatory:
    http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=en...&QR=2198&dgn=4

    More on the subject here:
    http://www.muhajabah.com/niqab-index.htm

    Ultimately it is up to each individual to follow the opinion they are inclined to, and which they feel is the most correct view.
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    asalamualykum warhmatulahi wabaarkthu

    jazahka Allah soooo much brothers and sisters

    walakumasalaam warhmatulahi wabarakthu
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    format_quote Originally Posted by amani View Post


    the article has Quranic ayahs..but with Quran is Sunnah-hadiths to show us what it means.
    inshaAllah sis 3washey will elaborate on this


    See previous articles.

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    Assalamu'Alaykum

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