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    Are Fireworks Ok? (OP)


    Peace.

    Can we light/buy fireworks?

    Can we watch them at displays?

    Why can't we light/buy fireworks?

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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

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    eyez_of_mine, I understand your point sister. Charity is so important, especially in ramadan, especially when people are suffering around the world. My argument is simply that I really dislike people saying DON'T DO THIS to one thing, but then doing something similar themselves.

    You're argument against fireworks is that the money could go somewhere better, however that doesnt make fireworks haraam, and if you're going to criticise someone for buying fireworks, then you must make sure that every penny you spend is in the sake of Allah and that you don't buy any needlesss purchases. So honestly, ask yourself - have you ever brought a nasheed album? Ever brought a piece of software for your computer? Ever rented a movie? Ever brought a novel or fictional book to read? Ever brought fast food (from a halal place obviously, lol) instead of going home to eat? In fact have you ever eaten out while there was food still in your home? Unless the answer to all of these and similar is NO, then it's not right to criticise someone for buying fireworks using that argument.

    Also, the fireworks I brought are going to entertain children on Eid? Are you saying there is no reward for me in that?

    Encourage people to give charity, alhamdulillah, thats a really good thing. However, using your argument, why are you online right now? Turn off your PC and send the money saved on electricity to Pakistan.
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    I opened my fast with orange juice elhamdolelah, but atleast the orange juice is a source of food for the body and needed when you been fasting.

    Bringing a smile to the face of a muslim brother or sister who is suffering from hunger and , bringing warmth to them when they have no shelter is far more rewarding and NEEDED than bringing a smile in the form of entertainment.

    What you think Allah will smile more at, you kindness to feed the hungry and shelter the homeless of your need for entertainment in the form of fireworks.

    I think the answer is pretty obvious. And Im not pulling out anything to far, its a fact , you think these people are not suffereing , the less people do, the more they will suffer.
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    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    were all not perfect m8.if u want to go ahead and do fireworks to entertain the kids you go ahead and do it.

    as i said in previous post.but then again am mot a scholar to lecture u

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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    Peace.

    I don't know what Allah will love more, but there's nothing that can be said about which act He'll love more. Allah Himself loves each person differently for the same deed. Go figure.

    Why are you still online? Get off the computer, and save some electricity. You could spend that money on those children, than on electricity.
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    So honestly, ask yourself - have you ever brought a nasheed album? Ever brought a piece of software for your computer? Ever rented a movie? Ever brought a novel or fictional book to read? Ever brought fast food (from a halal place obviously, lol) instead of going home to eat? In fact have you ever eaten out while there was food still in your home? Unless the answer to all of these and similar is NO, then it's not right to criticise someone for buying fireworks using that argument.
    Can you swear by Allah that you havent ever engaged in any of these of activities? Don't think I don't care about the suffering ummah, however quoting sad stories and making criticisms like these without being pure of them is very close to being hyprocritical.

    I remember reading a story in a book about a father whose child loved sweets, but the father could not always afford to buy them. So he went to the local imam and asked him if he could tell the child to stop eating sweets. The imam refused and told the man to come back in a month. When the man returned he then told the child to give up sweets, and the child obeyed. The reason the imam delayed this was because he himself enjoyed sweets, and used the month to give up sweets himself before asking the child too.

    In the same way sis, if you want to tell people to cut out all unneccsary things out of their life, then make sure you are the first to do it.

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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    No where did I say fireworks are Haram , as I do not know if they are Haram.

    But I would say right now the situation in Pakistan for example is so dire and desperate that really we need everyone to give , give and then give some more.

    so yes personally I have given and given and GIVEN and I will keep giving to them, since that has happened I have not brought anything frivolous, and lets keep it in context, Im talking frivolous here , not needed things like food and items like general needed clothing, electricity ect ect, things already in your home , unless u dont use it.

    Example I actually brought windows XP upgrade for my pc, I thought after this is mad, I can live without this let me take tihs back to the shop and send the money to pakistn instead, so I did.
    I avoided buying anything NOT NEEDED, I cannot justify wasting money on frivulous things like fireworks, pc software ect.

    the thing is Imagine u are in their situation and for grace of allah u are not, but if you was , how will you feel to think muslim brothers and sisters rather buy fireworks than feed you ?

    I cant see how you can justify wasting money on fireworks .
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    Peace.

    Ha Azim, quit it already.

    I think a little thinking time is needed now. Time to recollect the thoughts and see if what was being said, is making sense.
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    paid £50 m8 online to muslimhand so i gaining some rewards as we speak



    Why are you still online? Get off the computer, and save some electricity. You could spend that money on those children, than on electricity

    as i have said if u want to entertain the kids at eid.u go ahead and do it...we are not stopping you...
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    And I guess you think spending £110 on a pair of nikes will be fine now you pledged your £50.

    I know jews with bigger pockets than you brothers .
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    eye_of_mine - I never said you said fireworks were haram :S

    Also, please don't be offended, I'm not trying to do that. You're point is valid, brothers and sisters around the world (not just in Pakistan) need our support. Theres no point in quoting examples of buying XP sis, that just gets into the realm of 'holier than thou', the reason I'm even arguing my point is because theres this culture of criticism within Islam among muslims that I believe should stop. If you would rather send your money to Pakistan than buy fireworks, alhamdulillah, go ahead. Yet I think it's not right to criticise someone else for buying fireworks simply because you yourself would not make the same purchase. Also, can you imagine the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) making such criticisms? It's really not within the character of a muslim to act in such a way. Encourage the good and stop the bad - that is the character of a muslim, theres no - criticise the neautral there. Sister, I can also quite safely make the asumption that one day, you will buy something not needed. Can you guarentee you wont? On that day, you'll become a hyprocrite for that action. It's not really the whole firework debate I'm getting into here, but the principal behind it.

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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    Peace.

    Ok, I have searched and searched, and no Scholar (I have found) says buying fireworks is Haraam. They do note that it can lead to wasting of money, nothing else. It is disliked (Mukrooh), only.

    Now it's down to the person I guess. If they feel buying fireworks is Haraam, then lo behold. But to back their opinion saying it is a waste of money, is some what silly. A self evaluation at present would be greatly advised.

    I guess this sums it up?
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    format_quote Originally Posted by eyes_of_mine View Post
    And I guess you think spending £110 on a pair of nikes will be fine now you pledged your £50.

    I know jews with bigger pockets than you brothers .
    Sis, this is getting out of control now. First, that brother was on the same side as you. Second, do you know he spent £110 on Nikes? Why throw around accusations, baseless accusations (LIES!!!) like that?

    Third, don't make jokes like that about Jews. YOUR actions and YOUR words are the basis a non-muslim has in determining what Islam is - I met someone once who thought hating Jews was a staple belief in Islam - theres no need for that.

    Fourth, and finally, do you know how much I gave to charity? Do you know how much montayuk has given to charity (in total)? Do you know how these 'brothers' have given to charity? No, don't make claims and insults like that.

    This is really out of hand, irresponsible and has become very unIslamic. A debate is fine, but insults are the trademark of khaffirs, not muslims. I'm not gonna post on this topic anymore. Wish you all the best.

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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    blah blah silly boys.
    The thread is called are fireworks ok, I gave my opinions on why its not OK to waste money on them, when you can go see the for free at your local park.

    SOMEONE mentioned will you still buy computer software , I told I did not, in the hope it would encourage others to give , not to give the holier than holy preaching.

    So, yalla go and buy your fireworks, Im guessing you about 16 anyways so Its futile wasting my breath on kids, coz kids will be kids.
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    brother 350z u go and entertain your family just enjoy your eid.do some fireworks if it makes you happy

    eid mubarak 2 u :smile:
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    Peace.

    Ha, what a finale. Someone obviously got confused with what they were saying.

    Montoya, Eid Mubarak to you too dude.
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    sister it does not matter if i gave £50 even if i gave £1 its the thought that counts.insallah allah (swt) will reward me for it
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

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    QUOTE=azim;103782]Sisthis is getting out of control nowFirstthat brother was on the same side as youSecond, do you know he spent £110 on NikesWhy throw around accusationsbaseless accusations (LIES!!!) like that
    I said I bet , yani BET that he would think noting of buying nikes now, it was an example,

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    Thirddon't make jokes like that about Jews. YOUR actions and YOUR words are the basis a non-muslim has in determining what Islam is - I met someone once who thought hating Jews was a staple belief in Islam - theres no need for that. 
    I do not hate jews, but jews are well known for being stingy, yes abit of a generalisation but an extrmely true one, so I stated a fact, so therefore you are wrong brother.

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    Fourth, and finally, do you know how much I gave to charity? Do you know how much montayuk has given to charity (in total)? Do you know how these 'brothers' have given to charityNodon't make claims and insults like that. 
    I have no idea , but my feeling tells me you could be giving more by the attitude you have:rolleyes: Have a touched a nerve ? why so defensive ?
    why dont you share with us what you have given its encouraged to compete on giving to chairty.

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    This is really out of handirresponsible and has become very unIslamicA debate is finebut insults are the trademark of khaffirsnot muslimsI'm not gonna post on this topic anymore. Wish you all the best. 
    Salam.[/QUOTE]

    Your out of hand, and getting a bit carried away just coz I was pushing you tight lot to give more, and Im where have I insulted you as you insinute to me in your next breath that Im a kaffur lol again ! 4th time now !

    well it seems when I point things out some of you get jumped up, and if anyone of you think you can shut me upby using that ohh your talking like a kaffur line , plz think of sometihng new or otherwise learn how to debate.
    lol what funny upperty brothers.:eek:
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    as ramadan is coming to an end.. eid mubarak 2 u all
    forgive me if i said anything to anyone to upset them:thankyou:
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    Re: Are Fireworks Ok?

    Peace.

    The only person who's getting a few nerves touched is the one calling all the names. Childish, wouldn't you say?
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    never be proud of how much you gave sis allah(swt) does not like that
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