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    Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah.

    I am a convert to Islam and I am finding it difficult with the idea that non-muslims will go to hell for eternity. Coming from a non-muslim background - all my family are not muslim - this is very difficult to accept. I can't imagine the people I love ending up in hell and not being in paradise. Most of my friends are also not muslim and are atheists, Christians and Hindus and are the most loveliest people you could imagine. I read that adults who have not heard the message, however, i.e. the testimony of faith, will not be held accountable. What if they hear about islam on the news and never hear the shahada or what if I talk to them about islam in general and just never mention that? Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell


    I took time to find this thread I hope you readit and that it benefits you.


    Alex,

    Your question is a very crucial one that has confused and kept up a lot of people awake at night. I hope to help you and others understand this as I struggled with it a long time before and luckily great Sheikh explained it beautfully for me.

    First off what Alpha Dude said is correct, you need to have received the message correctly. Not receiving a message is clear and the Quran says "Whoever chooses to follow the right path, follows it but for his own good; and whoever goes astray. goes but astray to his own hurt; and no bearer of burdens shall be made to bear another" burden. Moreover. We would never chastise [any community for the wrong they may do[ ere We have sent an apostle [to them]." So if someone never heard of God's religion or heard a distorted story about it (like "there are those muslims and they believe in multiple Gods and are barbarians who kill each other over them") then God is their judge on judgement day to know what is in their heart and how to reward or punish them.

    Now with that aside, we need to talk about the current day communities of people who you and I meet and can be nice and kind-hearted, and just say they think all the religions are fabricated and don't believe in them, or choose some deviant man-made religion in order to improve their spirituality.

    We as muslims have learned something very important, and that is "intention". The prophet said "deeds are by intention, and for every person the reward of whatever he intended. So whomever makes hijra (migration) for God and his apostle, then his hijra is for God and his apostle, and whomever makes hijra for a worldly affair to win, or a woman to marry, then his hijra is for what he has intended it for"

    A muslim person is rewarded when and only when he intends to please God and for the sake of God. If you give money to the poor because it is charity and God likes that, then it's charity and is accepted, if you give it so that you look good in front of your fiance, or to ask that person later on for something to do for you, you'll get no reward for it. The prophet said in a hadith (to the meaning of): "There will come three people on judgement day, a scholar, a charitable man, and a warrior.
    The scholar will be asked in what he spent his life, and he will say: "I spent it gaining knowledge and teaching people oh God, for you", and he will be told "You lie, you did that so that people would say what a great scholar, and it was said, so it's done." and he is placed in hell.
    The charitable man would be asked the same and he will say: "I spent from your provisions on the poor and needy for your sake", and he will be told "You lie, you did that so people would say what a generous man, and it was said." and this man is placed in hell as well.
    The warrior would be asked the same and he will say: "I made jihad and died for your sake!" and he will be told "You lie, you did that so people would say what a hero, and it was said." and he too will be placed in hell."

    Our deeds are attached to our intentions, and all our rewards are attached to making it for the sake God.

    Now Alex, if someone doesn't believe in God, WHAT IS THE GOOD THING THEY DO INTENDED FOR?

    You see good deeds are good, and they have their immediate rewards. That is actually what you see in people who don't believe, they do something good but expect something in return. Sometimes it is vulgar and short-sided as "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours", but many times it is more of "if I do this they will like me", and "if I do this I will get more business", and "if I give money I'll take it off my tax return and look good in front of the community".

    You know what? There is even the bigger one that is actually tricky: "I do this because it FEELS GOOD!"

    Well yes, God al-hamdolellah created in us the instincts that make good deeds feel good to good people. But if you do a deed only to feel good, then God wasn't in that equation, was He?

    That is actually WHY non-believers are given an easier life and as mentioned in another thread here, seem to be getting a happy life. That is their reward for whatever sincere actions happen from them.

    God is never going to be unfair, he has given us all the same shot. If the people were sincerely good, they would shiver upon reading or hearing the verses of Quran and say "We believe". Instead they choose to refuse the charge and come up with all sorts of arguments why they're "not convinced". I will never forget the argument I had with an athiest I was discussing on a different board, that he claimed he doesn't believe at all all this we say about the scientific miracles of Quran, and when I asked why, he said that he looked at them and found that number 23 (iron brought down from space) MAY have been known by people then judging from the meteorites, so a person COULD have told the prophet about it. I wrote back "So you got tonumber 23, but while reading the first 22 miracles you just passed through and could not even acknowledge what you've read?!" to which he said, that he cannot explain that or comment on it but that this one shows THAT YOU'RE MAKING THINGS UP!

    If that man stops at a traffic light, it will be because he avoids a traffic fine. If he picks up litter, it will be because he wants a clean street for himself to enjoy or actually far-sighted to think about his kids. If he is standing at a charity event, you can be very confident that he's there networking with other business people or getting a tax break or maybe pleasing someone else. If they don't believe in God, then to them there is no God to do anything for. And God rewards those who serve him and obey him in what he has ordained upon us.

    (You can't enter a play or a concert without booking and buying a ticket, why would they enter paradise when they don't have one, especially that the tickets were free: All they had to do was say La Elaha Ella Allah and the ticket gets booked and will be waiting for them there)

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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Islam is not just uttering the Shahaadatayn only, rather it is essential to fulfil the conditions of this twin declaration of faith so that the one who utters them will truly be a Muslim. The pillars of Islam are believing, uttering and acting.

    It was narrated that Ubaadah ibn al-Saamit said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever says ‘I bear witness that there is no god except Allaah alone [with no partner or associate] and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger, and that ‘Eesa is the slave of Allaah, the son of His maidservant, a Word which He bestowed upon Maryam and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true and that Hell is true, Allaah will admit him through whichever of the eight gates of Paradise he wants.”

    Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3252) and Muslim (28).

    Shaykh ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Hasan ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    The words “Whoever says ‘I bear witness that there is no god except Allaah alone” mean, the one who speaks these words, knowing what they mean and acting upon them inwardly and outwardly, because with regard to the Shahaadatayn it is essential that one know and be certain and act upon them as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “So know (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) that Laa ilaaha illAllaah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allaah)” [Muhammad 47:19].

    And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “except for those who bear witness to the truth knowingly (i.e. believed in the Oneness of Allaah, and obeyed His Orders), and they know (the facts about the Oneness of Allaah)” [al-Zukhruf 43:86]. As for uttering the words without knowing the meaning or believing with certainty or acting upon them by disavowing shirk and being sincere in word and deed, and saying in one's heart and on one's lips and acting in one’s heart and with one's outward faculties, that is of no benefit, according to scholarly consensus.

    Al-Qurtubi said in al-Mufhim ‘ala Saheeh Muslim: Chapter: it is not sufficient merely to speak the Shahaadatayn, rather it is essential to believe it with certainty in one’s heart. This draws attention to the flawed argument of the extreme Murji’ah who say that merely uttering the Shahaadatayn is sufficient to make one a believer. The ahaadeeth on this subject indicate that this is wrong; rather it is a view that is well known to be wrong according to sharee’ah, because it implies a justification of hypocrisy, and judging hypocrites as true believers, which is completely false. End quote.

    This hadeeth also indicates this, in the words “whoever bears witness” because bearing witness can only be valid if it is based on knowledge, certainty, sincerity and honesty.

    Fath al-Baari (p. 36).

    There are seven conditions of bearing witness that there is no god but Allaah, and it does not benefit the one who says it unless he fulfils all of them. They are, in brief:

    1- Knowledge as opposed to ignorance

    2- Certainty as opposed to doubt

    3- Acceptance as opposed to rejection

    4- Obedience as opposed to disobedience

    5- Sincerity as opposed to shirk

    6- Honesty as opposed to lying

    7- Love as opposed to its opposite, which is hate.

    The conditions of bearing witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allaah are the same as the conditions of bearing witness that there is no god but Allaah, which have been mentioned with evidence in the answers to questions no. 9104 and 12295.

    And Allaah knows best.
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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Allah said,

    [إِنَّ الدِّينَ عِندَ اللَّهِ الإِسْلَـمُ]

    (Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam.) Allah states that there is no religion accepted with Him from any person, except Islam. Islam includes obeying all of the Messengers until Muhammad who finalized their commission, thus closing all paths to Allah except through Muhammad . Therefore, after Allah sent Muhammad , whoever meets Allah following a path other than Muhammad's, it will not be accepted of him. In another Ayah, Allah said,

    [وَمَن يَبْتَغِ غَيْرَ الإِسْلَـمِ دِينًا فَلَن يُقْبَلَ مِنْهُ]

    (And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him) [3:85].

    In this Ayah [3:19], Allah said, asserting that the only religion accepted with Him is Islam,

    [إِنَّ الدِّينَ عِندَ اللَّهِ الإِسْلَـمُ]

    (Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam.)

    Allah then states that those who were given the Scripture beforehand divided in the religion after Allah sent the Messengers and revealed the Books to them providing them the necessary proofs to not do so. Allah said,

    [وَمَا اخْتَلَفَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَـبَ إِلاَّ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَآءَهُمُ الْعِلْمُ بَغْيًا بَيْنَهُمْ]

    (Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except out of rivalry, after knowledge had come to them.) meaning, some of them wronged others. Therefore, they differed over the truth, out of envy, hatred and enmity for each other. This hatred made some of them defy those whom they hated even if they were correct. Allah then said,

    [وَمَن يَكْفُرْ بِآيَـتِ اللَّهِ]

    (And whoever disbelieves in the Ayat of Allah) meaning, whoever rejects what Allah sent down in His Book,

    [فَإِنَّ اللَّهِ سَرِيعُ الْحِسَابِ]

    (then surely, Allah is Swift in reckoning.) Allah will punish him for his rejection, reckon him for his denial, and torment him for defying His Book. Thereafter, Allah said.

    [فَإنْ حَآجُّوكَ]

    (So if they dispute with you (Muhammad )) so if they argue with you about Tawhid,

    [فَقُلْ أَسْلَمْتُ وَجْهِىَ للَّهِ وَمَنِ اتَّبَعَنِ]

    (Say: "I have submitted myself to Allah (in Islam), and (so have) those who follow me'') meaning, Say, `I have made my worship sincere for Allah Alone without partners, rivals, offspring or companion,

    [وَمَنِ اتَّبَعَنِ]

    (and those who follow me) who followed my religion and embraced my creed.' In another Ayah, Allah said,

    [قُلْ هَـذِهِ سَبِيلِى أَدْعُو إِلَى اللَّهِ عَلَى بَصِيرَةٍ أَنَاْ وَمَنِ اتَّبَعَنِى]

    (Say (O Muhammad ): "This is my way; I invite unto Allah with sure knowledge, I and whosoever follows me...'') [12:108].



    Islam is the Religion of Mankind and the Prophet Was Sent to all Mankind

    Allah commanded His servant and Messenger, Muhammad , to call the People of the Two Scriptures and the unlettered idolators to his religion, way, Law and all that Allah sent him with. Allah said,

    [وَقُلْ لِّلَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَـبَ وَالاٍّمِّيِّينَ ءَأَسْلَمْتُمْ فَإِنْ أَسْلَمُواْ فَقَدِ اهْتَدَواْ وَّإِن تَوَلَّوْاْ فَإِنَّمَا عَلَيْكَ الْبَلَـغُ]

    (And say to those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and to those who are illiterates (Arab pagans): "Do you (also) submit yourselves'' If they do, they are rightly guided; but if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message.) meaning, their reckoning is with Allah and their return and final destination is to Him. It is He Who guides whom He wills and allows whom He wills to stray, and He has the perfect wisdom and the unequivocal proof for all of this. This is why Allah said,

    [وَاللَّهُ بَصِيرٌ بِالْعِبَادِ]

    (And Allah sees the servants.) for He has perfect knowledge of who deserves to be guided and who does not deserve to be guided. Verily,

    [لاَ يُسْأَلُ عَمَّا يَفْعَلُ وَهُمْ يُسْـَلُونَ ]

    (He cannot be questioned for what He does, while they will be questioned.) [21:23] because of His perfect wisdom and mercy. This and similar Ayat are clear proofs that the Message of Muhammad is universal to all creation, as it is well established in the religion, according to the various texts of the Book and Sunnah. For instance, Allah said,

    [قُلْ يَأَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنِّى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُمْ جَمِيعًا]

    (Say (O Muhammad ): "O mankind! Verily, I am sent to you all as the Messenger of Allah.'') [7:158], and,

    [تَبَارَكَ الَّذِى نَزَّلَ الْفُرْقَانَ عَلَى عَبْدِهِ لِيَكُونَ لِلْعَـلَمِينَ نَذِيراً ]

    (Blessed be He Who sent down the criterion to His servant that he may be a warner to the `Alamin (mankind and Jinn).) [25:1].

    The Two Sahihs and other collections of Hadith recorded that the Prophet sent letters to the kings of the earth during his time and to different peoples, Arabs and non-Arabs, People of the Book and the unlettered, just as Allah had commanded him. `Abdur-Razzaq recorded that Ma`mar said, that Hammam said that Abu Hurayrah said that the Prophet said,

    «وَالَّذِي نَفْسِي بِيَدِهِ، لَا يَسْمَعُ بِي أَحَدٌ مِنْ هَذِهِ الْأُمَّةِ: يَهُودِيٌّ وَلَا نَصْرَانِيٌّ، وَمَاتَ وَلَمْ يُؤْمِنْ بِالَّذِي أُرْسِلْتُ بِهِ، إِلَّا كَانَ مِنْ أَهْلِ النَّار»

    (By He in Whose Hand is my soul! No member of this Ummah, no Jew or Christian, hears of me but dies without believing in what I was sent with, but will be among the people of the Fire.) Muslim recorded this Hadith.

    The Prophet said,

    «بُعِثْتُ إِلَى الْأَحْمَرِ وَالْأَسْوَد»

    (I was sent to the red and black. ) and,

    «كَانَ النَّبِيُّ يُبْعَثُ إِلى قَوْمِهِ خَاصَّةً، وَبُعِثْتُ إِلَى النَّاسِ عَامَّة»

    (A Prophet used to be sent to his people, but I was sent to all mankind.)

    [إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَكْفُرُونَ بِآيَـتِ اللَّهِ وَيَقْتُلُونَ النَّبِيِّينَ بِغَيْرِ حَقٍّ وَيَقْتُلُونَ الَّذِينَ يَأْمُرُونَ بِالْقِسْطِ مِنَ النَّاسِ فَبَشِّرْهُم بِعَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ - أُولَـئِكَ الَّذِينَ حَبِطَتْ أَعْمَـلُهُمْ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالاٌّخِرَةِ وَمَا لَهُم مِّن نَّـصِرِينَ ]

    (21. Verily, those who disbelieve in the Ayat of Allah and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, then announce to them a painful torment.) (22. They are those whose works will be lost in this world and in the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers.)
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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

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    Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah.

    I am a convert to Islam and I am finding it difficult with the idea that non-muslims will go to hell for eternity. Coming from a non-muslim background - all my family are not muslim - this is very difficult to accept. I can't imagine the people I love ending up in hell and not being in paradise. Most of my friends are also not muslim and are atheists, Christians and Hindus and are the most loveliest people you could imagine. I read that adults who have not heard the message, however, i.e. the testimony of faith, will not be held accountable. What if they hear about islam on the news and never hear the shahada or what if I talk to them about islam in general and just never mention that? Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

    Thank you

    Wa alaikum asalaam.

    There are lots of incorrect ideas on this topic: many people report being told that they will go to hell if they don't become Muslim. It's just not that simple.

    Humans are held accountable according to the messages they have received and understood. So someone who never reads or hears of scripture will not be accountable for it, but only accountable to his fitra (nature). Allah clearly states in the Qur'an that those of the Christians and Jews etc that "have faith and do good works", "they shall not fear and neither shall they grieve".

    As I understand it (and I may be wrong - Allahu allim), it is not enough to simply be aware of Islam - you have to understand it and then reject it to be counted among those who conceal the truth.

    Hope that helps.

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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    This is one main of the reasons why I rejected Catholicism (the religion of my parents). In Catholicism, if you die with a mortal sin on your soul i.e. you commit a mortal sin but die before confessing and being absolved from it you go to hell. So you could be the purest and most pious person in the world, make one mistake and die on the way to the confessional and be condemned to eternity in hell. That is unjust and God cannot be unjust. In the same way, I can’t believe that God would give a place in heaven to bad Muslims and send good non Muslims to hell.
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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    So, let us go to the Qur’an to find what it says about the fate of Non-Muslims:


    Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.


    Surah 2 Verse 62

    Here we find that Islam teaches that all people whether technically Jews or Christians or even Sabians (an ancient religious group) are entitled to be rewarded from God. That is on the condition that they believe in God and the Day of Judgment and lead a good life.

    This is quite different than the Jewish and Christian beliefs. Jews believe that the Children of Israel are the ones specially chosen by God for all His blessings. Similarly Christians maintain that those who believe in Christ’s atonement are guaranteed of heaven, irrespective of their actions. Unlike both these groups, Islam holds that any one who leads a good correct life, here on earth, on the basis that there is a God Who is the Supreme Ruler and Judge of all His creatures, will be rewarded in the hereafter.

    Here we need to understand who a Muslim is. A Muslim is a person who submits to God. It is not the name of a caste or race. That is to say, any human can be a Muslim if:
    (a)He believes in one and only one God.
    (b)He leads a good life by submitting to that one God.
    One can ask whether this also is an exclusivist stand. The answer is that there cannot but be a dividing line between good and evil. Those who court evil are naturally excluded from Divine Grace. It is a law of nature, (in other words, God’s own law) that we are destined to face the consequences of our decisions and actions. A person’s action is considered good or bad based on the intention behind it. The Prophet (pbuh) has said:

    ‘Actions are judged on the basis of intentions.’

    For example, think of a person who unknowingly gave poison to a patient, thinking that it was medicine. If the patient dies as a consequence, we do not consider that person a murderer. It is because the sincere intention was good. Thus, we can see that many apparently bad actions need not really be bad and vice versa. We can go a little further and say that good intentions in themselves become good, if they are based on the right philosophy or the right belief. As for our earthly life, we should take care that our actions are motivated by the right purposes, arising from the right beliefs.

    Islam provides a philosophy, a world-view, in which the source of all good is the Creator and Sustainer of the universe. This means that the way of life Islam teaches is divinely ordained and that it is quite in conformity with the principles on which the whole universe functions. It is the same Creator Who has decided that His reward is for those who follow His laws. There is no real sense in saying that He should reward those who deny, even His existence!

    A non-Muslim, by definition, is a person who does not recognize God as a Sovereign Law giver Who rewards the good and punishes the bad. For this reason, he has no claim to any reward from God. He may be doing apparently good deeds; but his good deeds are not based on seeking to do God's will. So they can only get the instrumentally good results that they can naturally have in this world, and not the reward of the other world which can only come from morally good acts.

    As for Muslims, who apparently hold the right beliefs - they will get the Divine reward only if they lead good lives derived from the right beliefs. Islam, unlike Christianity, does not teach that faith alone can save a person. Both faith and exerting effort are necessary; they are the two sides of the same coin.
    .
    [B][B]Unfortunately, because none of us is perfect, we are prone to making mistakes and falling into sin. Those from amongst us who chose not to follow what the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) brought, yet believe in the One True God, Allah, as Muslims will have to be purified of their sins by spending some time in the hellfire. We ask Allah keep us from falling into sin and to forgive us for the many sins we commit every day.

    According to the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), anyone who says, La ilaha illallah (There is no deity worthy of worship but Allah) will not spend eternity in the hellfire. One second of punishment, however, may seem like an eternity by our earthly standards, so we should never assume that we will only be there for a short time.

    Now is the time for repentance. Allah can and will forgive us if we turn to him sincerely in repentance, but if we die before we were able to repent for our sins, then we will suffer in the next life. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:

    Allah accepts a bondsman's repentance as long as the latter is not on his deathbed (that is, before the soul of the dying person reaches the throat).
    [This Hadith was reported by At-Tirmidhi].
    This is not a temporary Hell. Hell is a fixed, permanent place, but Allah may allow some Muslims to be released from it because of His mercy.

    We believe that the Prophet will be allowed by Allah to intercede on behalf of some believers who are in Hell, and by Allah's will they will be taken out of Hell.

    Allah will also take out of the Hell some believers, not because someone has interceded on their behalf, but simply because He chooses to.

    Your simple question, then, required quite a complicated answer! In summary, as Muslims we believe some wicked Muslims will be sent to Hell for a limited time but ultimately will be granted Paradise because of the mercy of Allah.

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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell



    format_quote Originally Posted by bibish View Post
    Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah.

    I am a convert to Islam
    Welcome to Islam

    I am finding it difficult with the idea that non-muslims will go to hell for eternity.
    God created heaven for believers . So , if anyone rejects oneness of God , s/he can't deserve paradise. S/he will get rewards in this world only and this is the justice of our Creator.

    Don't be upset about it and try to invite family members and friends to the Truth .

    Final Day will be very scary for all of us . Mothers won't look at newborn babies , fathers will ask God to throw his family members including kids to fire but forgive him . On that day , God will be just and won't do any injustice to anyone. Is not it a wonderful promise of our Creator ?

    Those who never heard of Islam , I read a hadiht about them like this : some will tell God , we never heard of you ; if we did , we surely would have accepted the truth. Then God will order them to jump in to the fire . Those who will obey the order will be forgiven . Those who won't follow , God will tell them u didn't obey order that u got from me directly; So , how can u claim that in the world u would have obeyed my orders if that u got from others ?

    And Allah Knows Best.
    Non-muslims sent to hell

    Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172

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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    format_quote Originally Posted by Nur-ud-Dean View Post
    Wa alaikum asalaam.

    There are lots of incorrect ideas on this topic: many people report being told that they will go to hell if they don't become Muslim. It's just not that simple.

    Humans are held accountable according to the messages they have received and understood. So someone who never reads or hears of scripture will not be accountable for it, but only accountable to his fitra (nature). Allah clearly states in the Qur'an that those of the Christians and Jews etc that "have faith and do good works", "they shall not fear and neither shall they grieve".

    As I understand it (and I may be wrong - Allahu allim), it is not enough to simply be aware of Islam - you have to understand it and then reject it to be counted among those who conceal the truth.

    Hope that helps.

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    Thank you very much for your message. It was very interesting to read and made me feel a lot better
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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Greetings,

    format_quote Originally Posted by Nur-ud-Dean
    it is not enough to simply be aware of Islam - you have to understand it and then reject it to be counted among those who conceal the truth.
    I've heard this point being mentioned before, and I can't make sense of it. Understanding something like Islam is not an on/off switch, it's something that develops over time. So when is the cutoff point? Presumably no human can give an answer to this - Allahu allim, I suppose.

    If Islam was true, I would be expecting to go to hell. I've been aware of Islam for many years, and I've been reading about it regularly for about ten years, and I've never felt the slightest urge to convert. In fact, the more I've learned about it, the less likely that has become.

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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    czgibson and thinker
    Seek refuge in ALLAH from satan.Raise u hand and supplicate to him with u heart for guidance.Say to him ALLAH open my breast to u.I am weak and confused.Do not let me down.He will not fail you.He is the hearer and seer.

    "O my Lord! Open for me my chest. * And ease my task for me. * And make loose the knot from my tongue, that they understand my speech." (20/

    O Allah, Knower of the unseen and the seen, Creator of the heavens and the Earth, Lord and Sovereign of all things, I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You. I take refuge in You from the evil of my soul and from the evil and shirk of the devil, and from committing wrong against my soul or bringing such upon another Muslim.’

    (There is no one more patient with something harmful that he hears than Allah. They attribute a son to Him, while it is He Who gives them sustenance and cures them.) Al-Bukhari also recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said,

    «قَالَ اللهُ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ: كَذَّبَنِي ابْنُ آدَمَ وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُ ذَلِكَ، وَشَتَمَنِي وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُ ذَلِكَ، فَأَمَّا تَكْذِيبُهُ إِيَّايَ فَقَوْلُهُ: لَنْ يُعِيدَنِي كَمَا بَدَأَنِي، وَلَيْسَ أَوَّلُ الْخَلْقِ بِأَهْوَنَ عَلَيَّ مِنْ إِعَادَتِهِ، وَأَمَّا شَتْمُهُ إِيَّايَ فَقَوْلُهُ: اتَّخَذَ اللهُ وَلَدًا، وَأَنَا الْأَحَدُ الصَّمَدُ، لَمْ أَلِدْ وَلَمْ أُولَدْ، وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لِي كُفُوًا أَحَد»

    (Allah the Mighty and Majestic says, "The Son of Adam denies Me and he has no right to do so, and he abuses Me and he has no right to do so. In reference to his denial of Me, it is his saying: `He (Allah) will never re-create me like He created me before.' But the re-creation of him is easier than his original creation. As for his cursing Me, it is his saying: `Allah has taken a son.' But I am the One, the Self-Sufficient Master. I do not give birth, nor was I born, and there is none comparable to Me.'')
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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    format_quote Originally Posted by bibish View Post
    Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah.

    I am a convert to Islam and I am finding it difficult with the idea that non-muslims will go to hell for eternity. Coming from a non-muslim background - all my family are not muslim - this is very difficult to accept. I can't imagine the people I love ending up in hell and not being in paradise. Most of my friends are also not muslim and are atheists, Christians and Hindus and are the most loveliest people you could imagine. I read that adults who have not heard the message, however, i.e. the testimony of faith, will not be held accountable. What if they hear about islam on the news and never hear the shahada or what if I talk to them about islam in general and just never mention that? Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

    Thank you
    Uh, I wrote you a response already, but accidentally my brother deleted it.
    Anyway I'll write some of it again.

    As-salaamu aleykum

    The question you asked is something I've also thought about. I won't tell you "Don't worry" etc. Coz' I can't describe nor even imagine the torment of Hell or the severe punishment of Allah. He has warned us a lot.


    You know that Allaah is more merciful towards you and all His slaves than a mother to her child. It was narrated from ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) that some prisoners were brought to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and there was a woman among the prisoners who was searching for someone. When she found a small boy among the prisoners, she clasped him to her and started to breastfeed him. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to us: “Do you think that this woman would throw her child into the fire?” We said: No, by Allaah, she would never do that if she is able not to. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah is more merciful towards His slaves than this woman is towards her child.”

    Narrated by al-Bukhaari (5999) and Muslim (2754).


    Muslim narrated in his Saheeh (916) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, and He did not permit me. I asked Him for permission to visit her grave, and He granted me permission.”

    In Saheeh Muslim it is narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has one hundred parts of mercy, of which He sent down one between the jinn, mankind, the animals and the insects, by means of which they are compassionate and merciful to one another, and by means of which wild animals are kind to their offspring. And Allaah has kept back ninety-nine parts of mercy with which to be merciful to His slaves of the Day of Resurrection.”




    Allah is just towards his slaves. And no one will be wronged, Allah's mercy is truly great. What more to say...



    The mercy of Allaah is what will admit His believing slaves to Paradise on the Day of Resurrection. No one will ever enter Paradise because of his deeds alone, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No one’s deeds will ever admit him to Paradise.” They said, “Not even you, O Messenger of Allaah?” He said, “No, not even me, unless Allaah shower me with His Mercy. So try to be near to perfection. And no one should wish for death; he is either doing good so he will do more of that, or he is doing wrong so he may repent.”

    Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5349; Muslim, 7042


    The hadith's source is from islam-qa


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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman View Post
    Those who never heard of Islam , I read a hadiht about them like this : some will tell God , we never heard of you ; if we did , we surely would have accepted the truth. Then God will order them to jump in to the fire . Those who will obey the order will be forgiven . Those who won't follow , God will tell them u didn't obey order that u got from me directly; So , how can u claim that in the world u would have obeyed my orders if that u got from others ?

    And Allah Knows Best.
    Remember that there is a difference between never hearing of Islam, and never hearing of God. I like to think that even if I went through my life ignorant of Islam then I would try to be religious and to know God regardless. I firmly believe that we have the knowledge of Truth within us; it's only a question of listening with an open heart.

    The way I understand it is that we choose our position in the next life. If we try to get close to Allah in this life, we will be close to Him in the next. If we choose to stay distant (through atheism or bad deeds), then we will be far from Him in the next life. To be close to Allah is to know his mercy, to be far is to know his wrath.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    I've heard this point being mentioned before, and I can't make sense of it. Understanding something like Islam is not an on/off switch, it's something that develops over time. So when is the cutoff point? Presumably no human can give an answer to this - Allahu allim, I suppose.

    If Islam was true, I would be expecting to go to hell. I've been aware of Islam for many years, and I've been reading about it regularly for about ten years, and I've never felt the slightest urge to convert. In fact, the more I've learned about it, the less likely that has become.

    Peace
    Everyone is different, in their understanding and situation. I believed in God; I researched Islam to the point where I understood the essentials, took stock, and decided that I believed.

    Do you believe in God, friend?


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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by Nur-ud-Dean View Post
    Everyone is different, in their understanding and situation. I believed in God; I researched Islam to the point where I understood the essentials, took stock, and decided that I believed.

    Do you believe in God, friend?
    Being an atheist, no, I don't. I don't ever remember a time when I believed in God. The first time my mother took me to church at the age of around five I remember having thoughts along the lines of "this must be some kind of joke, or some kind of game". I decided to keep an open mind about it until I became an adult, when I decided that I hadn't yet discovered any compelling reason to change my initial response.

    Nur-ud-Dean

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    You seem like a helpful person, Nur-ud-Dean. Welcome to the forum.

    Peace
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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Thanks for the welcome. Two questions spring to mind.

    1. Are your objections to faith based more upon dislike of the religions you know of, or simple belief that there is no God?

    2. Why does such a person as yourself make 10,000 posts on an Islamic forum (ot meant in a negative way, I'm curious)?
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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

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    I do not ask you to study islam for other ten years but to ponder over this video .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sGhr...eature=channel
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvW-q...eature=channel

    Believe me God will not fail you.You are now taking the right and secure path.If God did not want u good, u would not be here on this forum.
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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Pls ponder over this supplication AND WATCH THIS DOCUMENTARY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfwEaCY5D7w
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m98_Q9mbXiI
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    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    he miracle, the Quran

    So brothers and sisters, to increase your iman
    Read the miracle, read the Quran

    Here's a fact for the ones who are keener
    92 surahs revealed in Mecca, 22 in Medinah
    Read it every day and to read it be proud
    The word Quran means to read it aloud

    Read the book from the Lord of the worlds
    Over 6,000 verses and 77,000 words
    Read with respect, no disturbance, no laughters
    from Al Fatiha to An Naas, all 114 chapters

    And in it 14 times you need to prostrate
    And say Allah ho Akbar, meaning Allah is great
    In this book, 25 prophets are mentioned by name
    Who came at different times but their message was the same

    This miracle was revealed over a 23 year span
    Sent from Allah (swt), to an angel and then to a man
    That man was Muhammed (saws), the best of creation
    And we are proud to be part of his nation
    He gave us a message and that was Islam
    So read this miracle, read the Quran
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