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    Question Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

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    I've been reading a biography about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and it discussed his concubines and how his wives were upset about them. From my understanding, the book says that a verse in the Qu'ran tells Muhammad (pbuh) that he's allowed concubines.

    The whole idea that concubines are permissible confuses me. Does it mean my husband can have a concubine? How is that different from zina? I think I'm getting lost in translations. Can anyone shed light on this topic?
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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?




    The reason why concubines aren't zina is because Allah says that relations with them are allowed.


    And those who guard their chastity, Except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed...
    [Quran Ma'arij 70: 29-30]



    Also read;

    http://www.islamic-life.com/forums/d...-1908#post8189

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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?



    format_quote Originally Posted by zaira View Post
    - Does it mean my husband can have a concubine?

    some people confuse today's paid servants with concubines ( right hand possess ). They are not same . Now a man can't have any relationship with his maid servant i.e cook or baby sitter . But the war prisoners/ war slaves ...they were allowed for the owner only ( after the Muslim leader distributed booty among soldiers ) and their kids were given the father's name and they inherited also .

    And Allah knows Best.
    Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

    Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172

    recitation:http://quran.jalisi.com
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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

    Thank you for your replies - I appreciate them greaty - mashallah!

    I'm a bit confused about the concept of 'what your right hand possesses' - could someone clarify this?

    So a concubine is a slave basically? So in our modern time it doesn't apply to us. Could both men and woman do whatever they want with slaves, except harm them? Like could women have sexual relations with male slaves just as men did with female slaves?
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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?




    I'm going to paste a few articles;



    Slaves


    Slavery was the norms throughout the world - just like its not the norms today - when the Qur'an was being revealed. People would be taken as prisoners during wars or even outside of wars, and were treated as property which you could use and do whatever you wanted with, since they were your yours to use as you will.

    Islam came and changed that, and through this - it would give slaves rights similar to free people. Yes, it didn't abolish slavery totally, this was due to the worldly conditions that were present in the world during its time, and also due to future events which would cause slavery to return in the world in the future. This is one of the reasons why Islam didn't abolish slavery totally.


    Their Rights


    So what rights did Islam give to slaves?

    They are our brothers;
    Allah's Messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him) said about slaves: [translation of meaning];
    " Those slaves are your brothers, only God gave you an upper hand over them. So let that who has his brother (i.e. slave) under him give him the same food he himself eats, and the same clothing as he himself wears. The master may not give his brother a task that is beyond his ability. If he does give him such task, let him lend him a hand."

    Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29

    So we see that slaves are similar in rights to the owner.



    Can Slaves be beaten?


    Abdul-Lah bin 'Umar freed a slave of his then picked a twig from the ground and said:

    " I shall not receive for freeing him the worth of this in the Hereafter. I heard the Messenger of Allah say : ' If a man hits or beats his slave, his atonement is the freeing of that slave. [Reported by Muslim and Abu Dawud]





    'Why didnt they reject the concept of slavery altogether when islam came?'
    Its not that simple because most of the time, these people were slaves only because they fought Muslims and they would have done the exact same to them if the Muslims were caught! This concept was so common in the world at that time - the same way its so uncommon in the world at todays time (- its Islam that actually removed the concept so much that we find it strange today.)

    So something practical had to be done about it to slowly set people free. If Muslims said, you can go back home now after fighting us - then wouldn't the Muslims always be at the disadvantage? So by making them slaves - but respecting them, giving them similar rights - Islam changed the concept of slavery altogether in the world (but again this changed when queen Victoria came to Africa.)





    Sexual relations with a female slave?


    So what is the proof for having intercourse with ones own female slaves?


    And those who guard their chastity,

    Except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed,



    [Quran Al Ma'arij 70: 29-30]



    Why the number of concubines weren't restricted to a certain number?

    Islam encouraged cohabitation with slaves as another avenue to liberation for them and their children. this may be particularly significant if it is realized that the slave's offspring were often the children of wealthy owners who kept slaves for domestic purposes. It is further suggested that, to enhance the cause of liberation, Islam did not limit the number of slaves with whom a master may cohabit because the greater the number - the closer to freedom they become.

    So the more slaves kept, the greater the freedom of slaves (because he has alot) at his death, so alot of these slaves are then free at his death.


    Some people might say that anyone could buy slaves so sexuality was rampant, but this isn't true - since slaves were expensive.




    Methods of Freedom



    Slaves can be freed in 4 ways;

    4 types of freedom;


    The first type is that the owner can free his slave for the sake of Allah. This makes the slave a free man/woman.

    Al Mudabir; master promised freedom when master died.

    Al Mukaatab; slave made contract to free himself when payed an agreed amount

    also see tafsir of Surah Nur 24:33;
    Tafsir.com Tafsir Ibn Kathir


    Um al Walad; female slave had child [boy or girl] is then freed after death of owner.


    the sources from hadith which mention these types of freedom;
    http://www.islamic-life.com/forums/a...age3/#post7944




    Marriage is encouraged more in islam though:


    Sahih Al Bukhari Volume 1, Book 3 [book of knowledge], Number 97:

    Narrated Abu Burda's father:

    Allah's Apostle said "Three persons will have a double reward:

    1. A Person from the people of the scriptures who believed in his prophet (Jesus or Moses) and then believed in the Prophet Muhammad (i .e. has embraced Islam).
    2. A slave who discharges his duties to Allah and his master.
    3. A master of a woman-slave who teaches her good manners and educates her in the best possible way (the religion) and manumits her and then marries her."





    also read;

    islamic slavery; a refutation of doubts:

    The Islamic position on Slavery: A refutation of doubts :: load-islam

    http://www.islamic-life.com/forums/q...ve-girls-1832/

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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

    Islam & Slavery - A Refutation of Doubts


    whole article here:
    http://www.load-islam.com/artical_det.php?artical_id=815&section=wel_islam&s ubsection=Misconceptions




    As for the treatment of slaves, let's survey here some of the rules laid down by Islam to ensure a decent and kind treatment for them.



    1/ Giving them the same food and clothing as taken by their masters


    Abu Dawood reports on the authority of Al-Ma'roor bin Suwaid that he said:


    "We entered Abu Thar's house at Al-Ribthah [7] and found him dressed in a garment called 'burd', and found his slave dressed in an identical 'burd'. So we said : ' Why don't you, 0 Abu Thar, wear that 'burd' of your slaves so that you may have a full suit, and give him instead a less sumptuous garment ?' He replied : 'I heard the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings of God be upon him say:

    " Those slaves are your brothers, only God gave you an upper hand over them. So let that who has his brother (i.e. slave) under him give him the same food he himself eats, and the same clothing as he himself wears. The master may not give his brother a task that is beyond his ability. If he does give him such task, let him lend him a hand."

    Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29
    2/ Recognizing their dignity


    Abu Hurairah narrates that the Prophet of Repentance (i.e. Prophet Muhammad) said:

    " Any one who slanders his slave with adultery, and it is a false charge, will receive on the Day of Resurrection the same punishment his slave would have received in the world had the charge been true." [8]


    Abdul-Lah bin 'Umar freed a slave of his then picked a twig from the ground and said:

    " I shall not receive for freeing him the worth of this in the Hereafter. I heard the Messenger of Allah say : ' If a man hits or beats his slave, his atonement is the freeing of that slave."[9]



    3/ A slave is given the lead in religious or mundane matters which he is skillful at.

    He can be imam (i.e. to lead the prayer). Aishah had a slave who led her prayer. The believers are even ordered to heed and obey if a slave becomes their ruler, so long as he proves to be better qualified than others.

    Freedom is man's natural right. No one may be deprived of this right except for an exceptional reason. Although Islam recognizes slavery within the limits we have explained, it strictly warned those who have the upper hand of freedom against manipulating their position for cruel ends. Beyond that, we assert that it is justified to hold a person who falls captive as a result of his aggression, but it is necessary to treat him nicely.

    If someone does fall a captive and becomes a slave, then shows signs of repentance, gives up his old way of life, forsakes the way of evil and follows a well-guided life, such a person should be set free: Islam favours such response to a slave's conduct. Some Islamic jurists enjoin freeing him and other recommend it!


    The Prophet, peace and blessings of God be on him, again and again ordered kindness to the slaves. For instance, when the captives taken in the Battle of Badr were distributed he directed : "Be kind to your captives."




    4/ How the Companions of the Prophet (an example for all Muslims) - treated slaves


    Uthman bin 'Affan once punished a slave of his by pinching his ear-lobe. But he told him later : " come and pinch my ear." And when the slave would not do, he insisted. So the slave proceeded to pinch Uthman's ear lightly, but Uthman said : "pinch more painfully, I have no endurance for punishment on the Day of Resurrection." "Well Sir," rejoined the slave, "the day you fear I fear, too."


    When Abdul-Rahman bin 'Awf walked in the company of his slaves, people would not know who is master and who is slave - nor did he have smarter clothing.


    'Umar bin Al-Khattab once walked in Makkah and saw some slaves standing aside waiting, while their master ate. He was angry at this and inquired of the master :

    "Why do some masters regard themselves as superior to their slaves ? "

    Then he ordered the slaves to advance and eat.

    A man once entered the house of Salman, may God be pleased with him, and saw him kneading his dough. "What are you doing, Abu 'Abdullah[10]? " " I have sent my servant on an errand, " he answered. " So I didn't like to give him some more work."


    This is some of what Islam did for slaves !


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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

    asalaam alaikum


    right hand possessed = concubine.


    males have female concubines, but females dont have any intimate relations with their slaves.
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    This is one of the best articles I've read on Islamic slavery/sex with slave girls. Long, but I do hope you read it. It's well worth your time.

    Firstly, it should be borne in mind that slavery was not something that was introduced by Islam; on the contrary, it was something that had its roots planted long before the advent of Islam. It would not be an exaggeration to state that slavery is probably as old as war itself, because it is one of the consequences of war. Thus, slavery apparently first reared its head with the first wars that took place an the face of earth. War is a factor that makes soft men stern, kind men harsh and delicate men rugged. A man who cannot bear to see the sight of blood under normal circumstances becomes capable of shedding the blood of hundreds under the pressure of war. Those who were not killed in warfare, used to be taken as prisoners of war. The pages of history will show that many alternative, expedient methods were used through the ages to deal with prisoners of war. Some used to be executed while others would be set free, with or without a ransom. Then, there were others who were neither executed nor set free. These were enslaved.

    When Islam came and prospered, its power was challenged by the enemies of Islam and the need to go to war arose. By that time, slavery had virtually become an international custom. It was also rife among the Arabs from the days of darkness and ignorance. Thus, abolishing it instantateously would have caused chaos and pandemonium among the Arab people. Hence, a process of gradual extirpation had to be implemented. Moreover, if the Muslims would set all their enemy-prisoners free and tolerate their fellow Muslims being captured and enslaved by the enemies, it would have lead to a sharp decrease in the Muslim military force and given a great advantage to the enemy forces which was something that the Muslims could not afford. Furthermore, it is a well known fact that warfare tactics used by one side are often countered by the opposing side in order to maintain a balance of power. Hence, wartime diplomacy necessitated the enslaving of prisoners.

    In the ?Jihaads? (Islamic wars) that took place, women were also, at times, taken as prisoners of war by the Muslim warriors. These women captives used to be distributed as part of the booty among the soldiers, after their return to Islamic territory. Each soldier was then entitled to have relations ONLY with the slave girl over which he was given the RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP and NOT with those slave girls that were not in his possession. This RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP was given to him by the ?Ameerul-Mu'mineen? (Head of the Islamic state.) Due to this right of ownership, It became lawful for the owner of a slave girl to have intercourse with her.

    It may, superficially, appear distasteful to copulate with a woman who is not a man's legal wife, but once Shariat makes something lawful, we have to accept it as lawful, whether it appeals to our taste, or not; and whether we know its underlying wisdom or not. It is necessary for a Muslim to be acquainted with the laws of Shariat, but it is not necessary for him to delve into each law in order to find the underlying wisdom of these laws because knowledge of the wisdom of some of the laws may be beyond his puny comprehension. Allah Ta'ala has said in the Holy Quran: ?Wa maa ooteetum min al-ilm illaa qaleelan? which means, more or less, that, "You have been given a very small portion of knowledge?. Hence, if a person fails to comprehend the underlying wisdom of any law of Shariat, he cannot regard it as a fault of Shariat (Allah forbid), on the contrary, it is the fault of his own perception and lack of understanding, because no law of Shariat is contradictory to wisdom.

    Nevertheless, the wisdom underlying the permission granted by Shariat to copulate with a slave woman is as follows: The LEGAL possession that a Muslim receives over a slave woman from the ?Ameerul-Mu'mineen? (the Islamic Head of State) gives him legal credence to have coition with the slave woman in his possession, just as the marriage ceremony gives him legal credence to have coition with his wife. In other words, this LEGAL POSSESSION is, in effect, a SUBSTITUTE of the MARRIAGE CEREMONY. A free woman cannot be 'possessed', bought or sold like other possessions; therefore Shariat instituted a 'marriage ceremony' in which affirmation and consent takes place, which gives a man the right to copulate with her. On the other hand, a slave girl can be possessed and even bought and sold, thus, this right of possession, substituting as a marriage ceremony, entitles the owner to copulate with her. A similar example can be found in the slaughtering of animals; that after a formal slaughtering process, in which the words, ?Bismillahi Allahu Akbar? are recited, goats, cows, etc.; become ?Halaal? and lawful for consumption, whereas fish becomes ?Halaal? merely through 'possession' which substitutes for the slaughtering.

    In other words, just as legal possession of a fish that has been fished out of the water, makes it Halaal for human consumption without the initiation of a formal slaughtering process; similarly legal possession of a slave woman made her Halaal for the purpose of coition with her owner without the initiation of a formal marriage ceremony.

    In short, permission to have intercourse with a slave woman was not something barbaric or uncivilised; on the contrary, it was almost as good as a marriage ceremony. In fact, possession of a slave woman resembles a marriage ceremony in many ways and both have a lot in common with each other. One similarity is this that just as a free woman cannot have two husbands simultaneously, a slave woman cannot be used for intercourse by two owners. Another similarity is that a free woman whose marriage is on the rocks, cannot marry another man until her previous marriage is nullified through divorce, etc. Due to the discrepancies between husband and wife, the marriage sometimes reaches a stage where it becomes virtually impossible for the couple to live as man and wife with the result that divorce is brought into force to nullify marriage ties. Similarly, if a slave woman was married previously in enemy territory to a non-Muslim, and is then captured alone, i.e. without her husband, it is not permissible for any Muslim to have relations with her until her previous marriage is nullified, and that is done by bringing her to an Islamic country and making her the legal possession of a Muslim. Bringing her into Islamic territory necessitates the rendering of her previous marriage as null and void by Islamic law because with her husband in enemy territory and she in Islamic territory, it becomes virtually impossible for them to meet and live as man and wife. That is why it is not permissible to have intercourse with a woman whose husband is also taken into captivity and put into slavery with her. Another resemblance between the two is that, just as a divorcee has to spend a period called "Iddat" before another man is allowed to marry her, similarly, a slave woman has to spend a period called "Istibraa" before her owner can have coition with her.

    Another similarity between marriage and possession of a slave woman is that just as the wife becomes a dependant of the husband and he has to provide a home, food and clothing for her, a slave woman also becomes a dependant of her owner and he has to provide a home, food and clothing for her. Yet another similarity is this that just as marriage makes the close relatives of the wife Haraam upon the husband; i.e. he cannot get married to his wife's mother, grandmother, sister, etc., similarly if a man has copulated with a slave woman the slave woman's close relatives also become Haraam upon the owner. With all these similarities it does not make sense to regard copulation with a slave woman distasteful whilst copulation with one's wife is not regarded as distasteful.

    A question that may still arise is that why does the owner of a slave woman not marry her before having relations with her? Well, this is impracticable because of a few intricate technicalities. Firstly, we know that a man has to give ?Mahr? (dower-money) to his bride. The Holy Quran says:-

    [ A r a b i c ]
    Trans: "And allowed unto you is whatsoever is beyond that, so that ye may seek them with your substance (i.e. with your dower-money). " - (4:24).

    Thus, ?Mahr? is a conditional prerequisite of Nikah. If a man has to marry his slave woman, it would not be possible for him to abide by this condition of 'Mahr' because by Islamic law, a slave does not have rights over any property, i.e. she cannot own anything. In fact, whatever she has with her too, i.e. her clothing, etc., is all regarded as the property of her owner. Therefore, If he gets married to his slave girl and gives her the 'Mahr' she cannot become the owner of it because she has no right of ownership. The 'Mahr' would bounce back to the owner of the slave girl and it would tantamount to giving the 'mahr' to himself. Hence, the owner would become the payer as well as the PAYEE of the 'mahr' which would only result in the mockery of the whole system of 'mahr'. It would be absolutely superflous to have such a marriage ceremony performed that makes a mockery of the 'mahr' system. Hence, the owner cannot get married to her while she remains a slave girl. However, if he sets her free, then he can get married to her on the basis of her having become a liberated woman.

    Although the owner himself cannot get married to his slave woman, without giving her freedom, he can get her married to someone else. If he gets her married to someone else, then only her husband can now have intercourse with her and the owner's right of having intercourse with her comes to an end. All these facts prove that the slave girl does not become an instrument of sex; on the contrary, her honour is upheld, in that only one man is allowed to have intercourse with her JUST AS only one man (the husband) is allowed to have intercourse with his lawfully wedded wife.

    Islam ensured that the slave girl's duties were not restricted merely to domestic chores but also gave her master permission to copulate with her. This concession created an atmosphere of love and harmony between the slave girl and her master. Islam thereby raised the status of the war captive-maidens close to that of wives. It was a psychological cure to her grief-stricken heart, being deprived of her family and thrown into the hands of a strange society.

    Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) enjoined his followers to treat the slaves kindly, gently, and, above all, to regard them as members of the family. In this way, they were made to feel wanted; which was far better than treating them as outcasts and leaving them to wander the streets of a strange society in a peniless, destitute condition. Such treatment would have ultimately forced them to take up evil occupations such as prostitution in the case of slave woman in order to fill their hungry stomachs. The First World War in 1914 was a clear reflection of the evils involved in setting captive women free to roars about in a strange society with strange surroundings. During that war, German and English women prisoners on either side were set free to roam the streets with no-one to feed them. The result was obvious that they resorted to other unrefined and uncivilised methods of income on the streets. Thus, it is evident that the Islamic treatment of women prisoners of war was conducive towards better social relations and led to the refinement of their overall social lives.

    Over and above all this, History will show that Islam did not encourage slavery but rather encouraged moves towards the extirpation of slavery. Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam has said something to this effect in a Hadith, that: "Whosoever freed a Muslim slave, the Lord would redeem all his limbs - in compensation for each limb of the slave, so much so that the private parts for the private parts - from the Fire of Hell.

    "If a slave woman becomes pregnant from her owner, and delivers his child, she automatically gets her freedom after the death of her master whose child she gave birth to.

    Moreover, there are many wrongs and sins for which the liberation of a slave serves as a compensation and atonement. This was a further incentive for the extirpation of slavery. Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam also taught that whosoever teaches good manners to his slave girl, adorns her with politeness and good education, then frees her and gets married to her, for him there is double recompense and reward. These encouraging teachings served as incentives towards the emancipation of slaves and slaves were liberated by the thousands. Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam himself freed 63 slaves, Hazrat Abu Bakr Radhiallahu Anhu freed 63, Hazrat Abdur-Rahman bin Auf Radhiallahu Anhu 30,000; Hazrat Hakim bin Huzam Radhiallahu Anhu 100; Hazrat Abbas Radhiallahu Anhu 70; Hazrat Ayesha Radhiallahu Anha 69; Hazrat Abdullah bin Umar Radhiallahu Anhu 100; Hazrat Uthman Radhiallahu Anhu used to free one slave every Friday and he would say that he would tree any slave who performed his prayers with humility. Hazrat Zul-Kilah Radhiallahu Anhu freed 8,000 slaves in a single day.

    Hazrat Umar Radhiallahu Anhu passed certain laws during his Khilafat which led to the emancipation of thousands of slaves, and to the prevention of certain specific forms of slavery. Some of the edicts that he issued:
    1. All the apostate tribes that were enslaved during the Khilaafat of Hazrat Abu Bakr Radhiallahu Anhu were to be freed.
    2. A Zimmi (protected non-Muslim subject of an Islamic state) should not be enslaved.
    3. Arabs will not be enslaved.
    4. Those who had been enslaved during the days of ignorance (prior to the advent of Islam) and had lived to witness the Islamic era, should redeem themselves from slavery by paying their costs (their value) to their owners whether they were willing or not.

    As a result of all these laws, there came a time when slavery was totally extirpated. But of course, this extirpation came about after a gradual process because that was the only safe and expedient way of tackling the problem.

    Because of the prevalence of slavery in the initial stages of Islam the necessity of educating the people about the treatment of slaves also arose. Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam taught his followers how the slaves should be treated with kindness, etc. In fact, Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam himself possessed slave girls. In this way, he was able to demonstrate practically how kindly and politely the slave should be treated. Because it is relevant to the topic, it would be appropriate to mention here that Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam also had four slave girls. One was Hazrat Maria Qibtiyya Radhiallahu Anha who was the mother of Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam's son, Ibrahim Alayhis Salaam who passed away in infanthood. The others were, Hazrat Rayhaan binte Samoon; Hazrat Nafisa and a fourth, whose name has not been recorded in History.

    One question that still remains is whether slavery still legally prevails anywhere in the Islamic world and whether it can be successfully implemented in this age. Well, there is no prevalence of lawful slavery in the Islamic world today and it would be difficult to implement it because of the stringent conditions attached to it. Firstly, the prisoners have to be captured in 'Jihaad' in the true sense of the word. Then again, If true 'Jihaad' did break out somewhere, there are still a number of other laws and conditions to abide by which are far too stringent for any Islamic country in the world to abide by in this time and age when people's personal gains and whims and desire are being given preference to over Islamic Law. According to Islamic Law, captive female prisoners are also part and parcel of the booty. One fifth of the booty has to be first distributed to the needy, orphans, etc. The remaining four-fifths should then be distributed among the soldiers who participated in the war. The distribution can only take effect after the booty is brought into Islamic territory. The Ameerul-Mu'mineen (Head of the Islamic State) remains the guardian of the female prisoners until he allocates them to the soldiers. Only after a soldier has been allotted a slave girl, and made the owner of her, will she become his lawful possession. After she spends a period called 'Istibraa', which is the elapse of one menstrual period, It becomes permissible for her owner to have relations with her. After possession of the slave too there are a number of other laws that affect the master and slave. There is hardly any Islamic country today that can abide to all these conditions, with the result that it is quite difficult to implement slavery in this time and age.

    The subject of slavery in Islam is quite comprehensive and there are many laws that pertain to slaves which the Jurisprudents of Islam have outlined. It is, however, hoped that the above mentioned facts will be adequate enough to answer your question.
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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?



    format_quote Originally Posted by zaira View Post
    Like could women have sexual relations with male slaves just as men did with female slaves?
    the verse is Except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed,


    [Quran Al Ma'arij 70: 29-30]


    the verse does not say except with husband and ....... ; also if we read the hadith and biography of the Muslim women during the time of the Prophet pbuh , there is no such example that any woman had any relationship with her slaves.

    Human explanations can be like that : if a man has more than one partner , identity of his kids is clear. But if a woman has more than one partner , it's a problem to find out the dad . Also , it's men's responsibility to take care of women , not the opposite. So , a slave can't be the caretaker of a woman .

    And Allah knows Best.
    Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

    Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172

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    Mashallah - thank you all for your informative answers - those articles were very helpful on this sensitive topic.
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    Jazakallah khairan for the information providers on this thread...
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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

    This has always been a disturbing topic for me. There is something horrifying in an enslaved woman being forced to sleep with her "owner."

    My question however is concerning Islamic morality concerning the topic. Apparently a master forcing himself on his slave girl is not considered rape, however does this only apply to Muslims? Meaning, if a non-Muslim were to capture Muslim women and enslave them, would the act of forcing himself on them sexually be permissible? Or is it considered rape in that case?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post
    This has always been a disturbing topic for me. There is something horrifying in an enslaved woman being forced to sleep with her "owner."

    My question however is concerning Islamic morality concerning the topic. Apparently a master forcing himself on his slave girl is not considered rape, however does this only apply to Muslims? Meaning, if a non-Muslim were to capture Muslim women and enslave them, would the act of forcing himself on them sexually be permissible? Or is it considered rape in that case?

    why hasnt this question been answered
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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post
    This has always been a disturbing topic for me. There is something horrifying in an enslaved woman being forced to sleep with her "owner."

    My question however is concerning Islamic morality concerning the topic. Apparently a master forcing himself on his slave girl is not considered rape, however does this only apply to Muslims? Meaning, if a non-Muslim were to capture Muslim women and enslave them, would the act of forcing himself on them sexually be permissible? Or is it considered rape in that case?
    Isn't it obvious? A non-Muslim man is prohibited from marrying or having any sexual relationship with a Muslim woman/women period! If a non-Muslim man want to even come close to a Muslim woman the prerequisite is simple. Become a true believing Muslim (not just from your tongue, but from the heart also) and submit 100% completely without objecting, "Oh why is a man allowed to have talaaq and a woman is not" or "why does Allah punish such and such like this" or "simply hate or object or complain in one area of Islam and be happy and submit into another area of Islam". If you avoid doing all that and literally submit 100% in Islam without even uttering a single word of complaint and you believe and submit then by all means you can marry a Muslim woman and can have slave and have sex with her. However, RAPE IS FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM 100% and you have no right to rape any woman. So if your intention is for raping purpose...then please kindly part from us.
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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

    No, our Prophet Muhammad (SAW) did not have concubines; he had wives.
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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

    How do you think they ended up in the hands of the prophet and his followers, the women were taken by force.
    So how can women taken by force agree to any of this

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    So the non muslims who get captured are kept as slaves and a muslim man may havevhis way with them yet if a non muslim captures a muslim woman then he may not touch her unless he converts to islam ?

    Why would someone who is capturing muslim women care about our religion or its rules ?

    Also why is it ok to force yourself upon slaves ? Is this not the 4 letter R word ?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by manofIslam View Post
    No, our Prophet Muhammad (SAW) did not have concubines; he had wives.
    Brother educate yourself please

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    No, our Prophet Muhammad (SAW) did not have concubines; he had wives.
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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

    Many of the more financially well off people in those days - and long after - had concubines - including and not limited to Ibraheem , Ya'qub , Dawud , Sulaiman , and those who occupied what is now known as north america


    Here are a few quoted incidents which turn aside from the way of Allah and are not acceptable, compare them with the Islamic practices to gain an understanding of the situation in order to not be better informed.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concubinage


    It is reported https://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...=.e4d0e9af8066 that Jefferson kept Sally Hemings in a windowless basement burrowed under the south terrace as he fathered children with her.
    It was found in 2017 during restoration: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...llo-180963944/

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Hemings


    Traditional slavery is a practice which has been slowly phased out legally in the secularist countries although the abusive rapes of women deprived as their God-given rights even as concubines by soldiers who usually live in occupied lands is more commonplace than the governments of occupying countries would like to admit to.

    The rapes of japanese women during after world war two is well documented and the fact that the japanese resorted to setting up "----- houses" in order to reduce the number of random rapes is also well documented for those who bother to study.

    Any who cares to ponder on the issue will realise that concubinage would be phased out if Islam were implemented properly around the globe - since war would be absent - and everybody would be free from slavery to people due to the fact that it is unlawful to make a free person a slave in absence of major rebellion against Allah


    Those who falsely assume that slavery doesn't exist in secularist run lands are very far from the truth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPWxkdgbqw0#


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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women

    ---



    Under US Military rule, Korean society treated prostitutes with humiliation that included stoning and cursing from children.[6] However, by 1953, the total number of prostitutes amounted to 350,000.[7][33] Between the 1950s and 1960s, 60 percent of South Korean prostitutes worked near U.S. military camps.[7][33] During the Korean War, it was the South Korean Army that controlled Wianbu units performing sexual services for United Nations and South Korean soldiers.[2][34] Throughout the Korean War, two separate types of comfort stations were operated.[35] One was U.N. Comfort Stations (UN위안소, UN慰安所) for UN peacekeeping units, and the other was Special Comfort Stations (특수위안소, 特殊慰安所) for soldiers of the Republic of Korea Army.[35] U.N. Comfort Stations were administered in collaboration with provincial governors, mayors and police.[36] The majority of women working in U.N. Comfort Stations were married and supporting their families.[36] On the front lines, women were brought in by trucks without permission.[2]
    Second Republic (1960–1961)Edit

    The Second Republic viewed prostitution as something of a necessity.[37] In 1960, lawmakers of the National Assembly urged the South Korean government to train a supply of prostitutes for allied soldiers to prevent them from spending their dollars in Japan.[37] Lee Seung-u, the deputy home minister, gave a response to the National Assembly that the government had made some improvements in the "Supply of Prostitutes" for American soldiers.[37]
    Military government ruleEdit
    Park Chung-hee (left) shakes hands with General Guy S. Meloy after the May 16 coup. Park helped to enforce the "Base Community Clean-Up Campaign".[38][39]

    Park Chung-hee, who ruled South Korea during the 1960s and 1970s, and the father of the former president Park Geun-hye, encouraged the sex industry in order to generate revenue, particularly from the U.S. military.[40] Park seized power in the May 16 coup, and immediately enforced two core laws.[41] The first was the prostitution prevention law, which excluded "camp towns" from the governmental crackdown on prostitution; the second was the tourism promotion law, which designated camp towns as special tourism districts.[41]

    During the 1960s, camp town prostitution and related businesses generated nearly 25 percent of the South Korean GNP.[42] In 1962, 20,000 comfort women were registered.[2] The prostitutes attended classes sponsored by their government in English and etiquette to help them sell more effectively.[43] They were praised as "dollar-earning patriots" or "true patriots" by the South Korean government.[29][40][43] In the 1970s one junior high school teacher told his students that "The prostitutes who sell their bodies to the U.S. military are true patriots. Their dollars earned greatly contributes to our national economy. Don't talk behind their back that they are western princesses or U.N. madams."[13]

    In 1971, the number of American soldiers was reduced by 18,000, due to the Nixon Doctrine.[44][45] Because of this, South Koreans were more afraid of the North Korean threat and its economic impact.[46] Even so, camp town prostitution had already become an important component of South Korean livelihood.[46] The advocacy group My Sister's Place wrote in 1991 that the American soldiers contributed one billion dollars to the South Korean economy which was 1% of the South Korean GNP.[47]

    Despite this, there were issues of venereal disease and racist conflict. U.S. military personnel advised the South Korean government that the camp towns were breeding grounds for sexually transmitted infections and places of racist discrimination.[48] The venereal disease ratio per 1,000 American soldiers rapidly increased, from 389 (in 1970), 553 (in 1971), and 692 (in 1972).[45]

    Camp town clubs were separated for blacks and whites, and women were classified in accordance with the soldiers' race.[38] The residents near Camp Humphreys discriminated between African Americans and white Americans.[38] African American soldiers vented their anger against camp town residents.[38] On July 9, 1971, 50 African American soldiers provoked a riot against racist discrimination and destroyed some clubs near Camp Humphreys.[38] In turn, residents hunted down African American soldiers with sickles.[38] American military police and South Korean police quelled the rioters.[38]

    In August 1971, the Secretary of Home Affairs Ministry, in cooperation with health authorities, gave orders to each police station to take precautions against sexually transmitted diseases and to instruct prostitutes about them.[44] On December 22, 1971, Park Chung-hee, the President of South Korea, enforced the Base Community Clean-Up Campaign.[38] The government educated women not to discriminate racially and banned clubs that posted segregationist signboards.[38]

    The US Military Police Corps and South Korean officials regularly raided prostitutes who were thought to be spreading disease, and would detain those thought to be ill, locking them up under guard in so-called "monkey houses" that had barred windows,[43] and the women were forced to take medications that were reported to make them vomit.[43] Women who were certified to be without disease wore tags.[29] In the 1970s, U.S. military officials and South Korean bureaucrats discussed the matter of preventing epidemics and government efforts to register prostitutes and requiring them to carry medical certification.[37] The US military issued and required the prostitutes who worked at clubs to carry venereal disease cards, and also published a venereal disease guide to inform American soldiers patronizing bars.[49]

    The South Korean government educated prostitutes who worked at the U.S. military camp in regard of preventing venereal disease. The South Korean bureaucrats educated that prostitution is an act of patriotism.[50] The bureaucrats informed the prostitutes of their contribution to the development and security of South Korea when they serve the U.S. soldiers with a healthy and clean body along with cooperative attitudes. The former Chief Secretary of the Blue House who directed the Base Community Clean-up Campaign, educated the prostitutes to learn the spirit of prostitutes who served the U.S. military during 1945 in Japan.[51] The former presidential secretary for audit and inspection, Hong Jong-chul, attempted to make policies for the prostitutes in base communities such as building apartments for them.[52]

    There are reports that some women were killed by soldiers or committed suicide.[29]


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pros..._U.S._military



    So before attempting to put the magnifier on Muhammad as if he was a unique perpetrator of an act that was prevalent amongst tribes - with Muslim women also at risk of being captured into slavery - look into the ruling on lawful retaliation, the rights of slaves, and how slavery is wiped out as Islam prevails. Also look into how economic slavery is increasing through the usurious banking system with the labour of thousands of people globally being additionally allocated to fill the coffers of the greedy usurers - and how Islam removes economic slavery. Then research how women are manipulated into prostitution and "modelling" for "gentlemen" through economic blackmail.
    Also not that the term "-----" is derived from the Arabic term "hoor" indicating the actions of orientalists in the Muslim world from the crusades up until now.
    Then you'll probably realise why Allah who created humankind openly speaks of policies when guiding humankind to the truth - a method unseen in the hypocritical practices of those who profess to know better than Allah
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    format_quote Originally Posted by spamme View Post
    How do you think they ended up in the hands of the prophet and his followers, the women were taken by force.
    So how can women taken by force agree to any of this

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    So the non muslims who get captured are kept as slaves and a muslim man may havevhis way with them yet if a non muslim captures a muslim woman then he may not touch her unless he converts to islam ?

    Why would someone who is capturing muslim women care about our religion or its rules ?

    Also why is it ok to force yourself upon slaves ? Is this not the 4 letter R word ?

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    Brother educate yourself please

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    Brother educate yourself please

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    format_quote Originally Posted by spamme View Post
    Copying a wall of text is not a discussion.
    Also whilst i scrolled through it i saw a mention that japanese r@ped women, that is poor justification.....2 wrongs do not make a right.
    Attempting to undermine a response with the claim that a post containing a reference is "Copying a wall of text" - is not an accurate summarization.
    The op puts the magnifier on Prophet Muhammad 's action as if he is a unique perpetrator and initiator of an act that has been and is practiced in much worse ways by non-Muslims. Like a case of the kettle calling the teapot black.


    When the Messenger of Allah invaded lands - as was the common practice of the romans, the persians, and other large nations and tribes, his purpose was not to enslave the people and exact tribute - but rather to elevate the people of those lands by making them brothers and sisters in Islam with equal rights as Muslims living under the law of Allah and using it as the common arbitration standard and guidance - it is only those peoples who rebelled against the command of Allah and fought against the believers after refusing to submit to the command of Allah who were taken as prisoners or made to pay the jizyah - unlike the practice of all other God-rejecting conquerors who sought slaves and tribute alone.






    Also - the fact that it is an action which is destined to be phased out in a proper fashion by Islam as the world is liberated from slavery to humans - is worth mentioning when referring to the issue.



    (1232)
    Chapter: Freeing A Believing Slave (As Expiation)
    (19)
    باب فِي الرَّقَبَةِ الْمُؤْمِنَةِ

    Narrated Abu Hurairah:

    A man brought the Prophet (ﷺ) a black slave girl. He said: Messenger of Allah, emancipation of believing slave is due to me. He asked her: Where is Allah ? She pointed to the heaven with her finger. He then asked her: Who am I ? She pointed to the Prophet (ﷺ) and to the heaven, that is to say: You are the Messenger of Allah. He then said: Set her free, she is a believer.

    حَدَّثَنَا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ يَعْقُوبَ الْجُوزَجَانِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي الْمَسْعُودِيُّ، عَنْ عَوْنِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُتْبَةَ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، ‏:‏ أَنَّ رَجُلاً، أَتَى النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم بِجَارِيَةٍ سَوْدَاءَ فَقَالَ ‏:‏ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنَّ عَلَىَّ رَقَبَةً مُؤْمِنَةً ‏.‏ فَقَالَ لَهَا ‏:‏ ‏"‏ أَيْنَ اللَّهُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَأَشَارَتْ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ بِأُصْبُعِهَا ‏.‏ فَقَالَ لَهَا ‏:‏ ‏"‏ فَمَنْ أَنَا ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَأَشَارَتْ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَإِلَى السَّمَاءِ، يَعْنِي أَنْتَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ‏.‏ فَقَالَ ‏:‏ ‏"‏ أَعْتِقْهَا فَإِنَّهَا مُؤْمِنَةٌ ‏"

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    Grade : Da'if (Al-Albani) ضعيف (الألباني) حكم :
    Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 3284
    In-book reference : Book 22, Hadith 43
    English translation : Book 21, Hadith 3278






    A message to the mushrikeen:



    1The righteous perish,

    and no one takes it to heart;

    the devout are taken away,

    and no one understands

    that the righteous are taken away

    to be spared from evil.

    2Those who walk uprightly

    enter into peace;

    they find rest as they lie in death.

    3“But you—come here, you children of a sorceress,

    you offspring of adulterers and prostitutes!

    4Who are you mocking?

    At whom do you sneer

    and stick out your tongue?

    Are you not a brood of rebels,

    the offspring of liars?

    5You burn with lust among the oaks

    and under every spreading tree;

    you sacrifice your children in the ravines

    and under the overhanging crags.

    6The idols among the smooth stones of the ravines are your portion;

    indeed, they are your lot.

    Yes, to them you have poured out drink offerings

    and offered grain offerings.

    In view of all this, should I relent?


    From Isaiah 57.


    Maybe the sunnah of 'Eesa ibn Maryam will not allow for slavery to humans, and complete annihilation by Allah's leave will be the result for rebellious peoples.
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    Re: Did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) have concubines?

    yet you avoided the conversation that how can r@pe be ok, if someone does not follow islam then its ok to r@pe them ?
    surely if someone does not believe then that is between them and God, is their punishment not when they face Allah ?
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