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    Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

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    whole time I was looking for a proper answer but the opinions are too different than I ever expected, now my head feels overload.. I dunno what to do and what to ask, really. I don't know whom I should believe and which answer is correct, I'm confused and it's getting annoying..
    one said that salah must be prayed only in arabic and others disagree about. As you know the best position to make your dua is the sajood but hey! If you are not able to speak arabic means you lose your chance? huh? If you want to start making personal dua in your native language because you can easily express your thoughts, wishes because you think and live only with your native language means all your duas won't be accepted and expressing your thoughts during your dua is kinda restriction, any other language is forbidden? Yet again arabic is not even your second language, how is that possible that you can't implement duas in prostration using your mother tongue? This sounds extremely odd to me!
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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    Assalamu Alaikum

    Quote Originally Posted by space View Post
    whole time I was looking for a proper answer but the opinions are too different than I ever expected, now my head feels overload.. I dunno what to do and what to ask, really. I don't know whom I should believe and which answer is correct, I'm confused and it's getting annoying..
    one said that salah must be prayed only in arabic and others disagree about. As you know the best position to make your dua is the sajood but hey! If you are not able to speak arabic means you lose your chance? huh? If you want to start making personal dua in your native language because you can easily express your thoughts, wishes because you think and live only with your native language means all your duas won't be accepted and expressing your thoughts during your dua is kinda restriction, any other language is forbidden? Yet again arabic is not even your second language, how is that possible that you can't implement duas in prostration using your mother tongue? This sounds extremely odd to me!
    You can do them in your mother tongue. And even if you don't know arabic, there are many du'as in the Quran and ahadith which you can memorize as well.

    I really like this du'a, because you're giving Allah full trust in your affairs and it's asking for all good in this world AND the afterlife which we shouldn't lose focus from:

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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by *charisma* View Post
    Assalamu Alaikum



    You can do them in your mother tongue. And even if you don't know arabic, there are many du'as in the Quran and ahadith which you can memorize as well.

    I really like this du'a, because you're giving Allah full trust in your affairs and it's asking for all good in this world AND the afterlife which we shouldn't lose focus from:




    Waalaykum Assalam!


    My point is, I want to make my own, personal, unique dua in my own words and thoughts that I can ask Allah my desire and wishes in prostration

    I've watched the video where shaykh Hasan Ali explains the things concern dua.. he said that during your sajood you just have a sincere intention, focus on your desire you want the most, then say the following "Allahummar zuqni hajja(pronounced as Hatha)"

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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by space View Post
    Waalaykum Assalam!


    My point is, I want to make my own, personal, unique dua in my own words and thoughts that I can ask Allah my desire and wishes in prostration

    I've watched the video where shaykh Hasan Ali explains the things concern dua.. he said that during your sajood you just have a sincere intention, focus on your desire you want the most, then say the following "Allahummar zuqni hajja(pronounced as Hatha)"
    As I said, you can do it as you like.

    BTW you may also find this helpful:

    https://islamqa.info/en/answers/2243...aa-is-answered
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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by *charisma* View Post
    As I said, you can do it as you like.

    BTW you may also find this helpful:

    https://islamqa.info/en/answers/2243...aa-is-answered



    I can do it in the last sajood after saying "Subhana Rabbil-'ala". I asked the question because I had a lot of doubts and couldn't decide what to do
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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by space View Post
    I can do it in the last sajood after saying "Subhana Rabbil-'ala". I asked the question because I had a lot of doubts and couldn't decide what to do
    What I used to do is I'd say any part of my du'a in arabic as much as I could from what I knew, and then whatever I did not know in Arabic I'd say in english. So you may know some of what you want to ask in arabic already if they are common statements of dhikr or du'a. There is also an etiquette to giving du'a, like calling Allah by his names (ya razak, ya raheem, ya rahman etc.), and sending salutations/blessings to the prophet pbuh before making your du'a. Anyways, May allah grant you the goodness in that which you seek ameen.
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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by *charisma* View Post
    What I used to do is I'd say any part of my du'a in arabic as much as I could from what I knew, and then whatever I did not know in Arabic I'd say in english. So you may know some of what you want to ask in arabic already if they are common statements of dhikr or du'a. There is also an etiquette to giving du'a, like calling Allah by his names (ya razak, ya raheem, ya rahman etc.), and sending salutations/blessings to the prophet pbuh before making your du'a. Anyways, May allah grant you the goodness in that which you seek ameen.


    Barakallah

    how should it be done? Inside your prayer or outside, in case of using your mother language? Most of those "knowledge" people tend to claim every single fard salah must be only in arabic except the voluntary prayers, so this makes me want to acquire more detailed explanation. Personally I know only some of the written Quranic verses and their meaning in order to use them during my fard prayers, nothing else..

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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer



    There are differing opinions among fiqh scholars regarding using any language other than Arabic in prayer. Please see http://www.feqhweb.com/vb/showthread...l=1#post133621
    and https://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showp...94&postcount=6

    It says at the end that if a person is unable to pray in Arabic then he is allowed to pray in another language but not allowed for those who can pray in Arabic.

    The English explanation is given here from Shaf'i shchool http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2016/...prayer-shafii/
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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by space View Post
    Barakallah

    how should it be done? Inside your prayer or outside, in case of using your mother language? Most of those "knowledge" people tend to claim every single fard salah must be only in arabic except the voluntary prayers, so this makes me want to acquire more detailed explanation. Personally I know only some of the written Quranic verses and their meaning in order to use them during my fard prayers, nothing else..
    Yes every prayer whether fardh or sunnah must be done in Arabic in its entirety (except for the personal du'a that you have mentioned only if you do not know arabic). You have to learn salaah in arabic even if you do not fully know what it means yet. You can always write it down and read from the paper until you have learned it.
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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    I strongly recommend you to watch this and share your opinion



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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by space View Post
    I strongly recommend you to watch this and share your opinion
    There's no room for opinion on this matter bro. But what he's saying in the video is sound (correct). Why, is there something you do not agree with?
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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by *charisma* View Post
    There's no room for opinion on this matter bro. But what he's saying in the video is sound (correct). Why, is there something you do not agree with?




    I completely agree with him and I guess I've found my answer already.. I just wanted to hear your opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by space View Post
    I completely agree with him and I guess I've found my answer already.. I just wanted to hear your opinion
    I hope you find ease in your journey to perfecting your prayers and getting closer to Allah ameen. One beautiful thing about praying in Arabic is that no matter where you are from, Allah gave us the ability to learn, speak, pray in this language simply because we do it to worship Him. No matter where we are from, we say the same words and do the same movements--it connects us subhanallah.

    How beautiful is Sujuud
    you whisper on the ground,
    and you're heard in the highest level of the heavens.
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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by space View Post
    whole time I was looking for a proper answer but the opinions are too different than I ever expected, now my head feels overload.. I dunno what to do and what to ask, really. I don't know whom I should believe and which answer is correct, I'm confused and it's getting annoying..
    one said that salah must be prayed only in arabic and others disagree about. As you know the best position to make your dua is the sajood but hey! If you are not able to speak arabic means you lose your chance? huh? If you want to start making personal dua in your native language because you can easily express your thoughts, wishes because you think and live only with your native language means all your duas won't be accepted and expressing your thoughts during your dua is kinda restriction, any other language is forbidden? Yet again arabic is not even your second language, how is that possible that you can't implement duas in prostration using your mother tongue? This sounds extremely odd to me!
    Prostration is integral (so-called 'Rukn') to namaaz, so I doubt if you can do so. But I say dua in Qonoot (before ruku' of the 2nd ruka' in Farsi, but you should add some Arabic dua as well). Note that qonoot is itself recommended, ass it is sunnah.
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    Re: Supplication while prostrating within fard prayer

    I see the first link is For Hanafi school, but I am not sure about the second link. Anyhow, the Dhikr must be said in Arabic.

    Clearly, the change of nation languages during times would bring changes in religious texts and lead to some twists in the texts over millennia


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