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    How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

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    My Christian mother told me a story, that long ago on the “Ancient Times” there was too many wars, and Roman Empire conquered our home land( Dacia, an old name for Romania), and other countries in Europe and they have left writings and so on. And she told me that, “look how advanced we are today? This because of God’s will”. I was wondering, if it is true what my mother told me?

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    Yes it's true, but the advancement wasn't due to the Roman empire; here is the real reason:

    https://youtu.be/_7uLl5_lBIA

    https://youtu.be/xjfkIZdY-O0

    https://youtu.be/5L6R-CI52xc

    Ps: the 'advancement' is just basically 'scraps' from the table of Islamic feast considering the real blessings is faith that saves you, compared to creature comforts and a semblance of civility

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    they [non-Muslim Europeans, Americans, etc] dont even know that much of the Rahma [blessings and good things] that they have now is a result of his [the Prophet Muhammad's pbuh] Ummah, the medicine that they have is a result of his ummah, the universities they have are a result of his ummah, the fact that they enjoy gardens is a result of his ummah, the fact that they enjoy much of the modern things that have made their lives easier is a result of his ummah because they [the Muslims] took the word iqra ['read'; the first word that was revealed of the Quran] seriously and they studied and they transferred their knowledge to the Europeans and it was with the knowledge of this ummah that they achieved what they achieved,

    they dont realise that much of what they have is a result of the Rahma of the Prophet [saw]; they were barbarians before the muslims, they didn't even wash; the Eurpoeans used to put oranges, they wore oranges with cloves stuffed to get rid of the stench because the christians thought that to take care of the body was a bad thing until the muslims taught them about the hammam [baths]; thats where they took it from because the Hammam is from the muslims; they wouldn't even have a bath, they woudln't even have a basin, if it wasn't for the Rahma of this ummah...'

    Ref: now deleted Shaykh Hamza Yusuf video

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?



    Yes, everything in this World happens as Allah had willed. Even the world wars , It means If Allah wanted to stop it they could have never happened . But Allah allowed it happened to Prove & show who are the evil doers and who are the right ones , the goer's of Hell & heaven (paradise)

    All advancement in the world is also ONLY through Allah's given brains and consequent knowledge (according to the attempts made by some and as per the needs of their times & Allah bestows those Successes as Allah wills ) Muslims were THE origins of researchers on various fields but after Crusades the crusaders snatched them away from Muslims and developed them further untill now .
    How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    My Sect : No Sect

    My Aqeedha : Aqeedha of Sahabas as in http://legacy.quran.com/112

    Just a Muslim with Glorious Quran and (hadith) sunnah as my guide as in verse 41:33 '' And who is better in speech than one who invites to Allah and does righteousness and says, "Indeed, I am of the Muslims."

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    And, majority of the countries in this world have become democracy and some remained empire and few of them remain kingdoms. Is this also a will of God To happen?

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz View Post
    they [non-Muslim Europeans, Americans, etc] dont even know that much of the Rahma [blessings and good things] that they have now is a result of his [the Prophet Muhammad's pbuh] Ummah, the medicine that they have is a result of his ummah, the universities they have are a result of his ummah, the fact that they enjoy gardens is a result of his ummah, the fact that they enjoy much of the modern things that have made their lives easier is a result of his ummah because they [the Muslims] took the word iqra ['read'; the first word that was revealed of the Quran] seriously and they studied and they transferred their knowledge to the Europeans and it was with the knowledge of this ummah that they achieved what they achieved,

    they dont realise that much of what they have is a result of the Rahma of the Prophet [saw]; they were barbarians before the muslims, they didn't even wash; the Eurpoeans used to put oranges, they wore oranges with cloves stuffed to get rid of the stench because the christians thought that to take care of the body was a bad thing until the muslims taught them about the hammam [baths]; thats where they took it from because the Hammam is from the muslims; they wouldn't even have a bath, they woudln't even have a basin, if it wasn't for the Rahma of this ummah...'

    Ref: now deleted Shaykh Hamza Yusuf video
    "Europeans"? What are you talking about? The Greeks and Romans etc used to spend ages in the baths. You need to realize that Europe is very big and has many races, the barbarian races to the north hardly washed, were bearded with long hair and scruffy clothing. However, in stark contrast, the civilized southern European races were so hygienic they had short haircuts for males and most were clean shaven so much so they would have considered even Muslims to be scruffy barbarians.

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    "Europeans"? What are you talking about? The Greeks and Romans etc used to spend ages in the baths. You need to realize that Europe is very big and has many races, the barbarian races to the north hardly washed, were bearded with long hair and scruffy clothing. However, in stark contrast, the civilized southern European races were so hygienic they had short haircuts for males and most were clean shaven so much so they would have considered even Muslims to be scruffy barbarians.
    Hmmm funny that. We've all seen films with those Romans in large pool like baths so why did Shaykh Hamza say Europeans got it off the Muslims?

    Could the film makers got it wrong and they just pretend Romans were sophisticated?

    Here's more from the great white Shaykh! ☺ (from one of his old videos called 'Ihya Uloom ud Deen')

    The western university system is litterally stolen, without any credit, from the Islamic system of training individuals, ...and these studies have been done extensively by several orientalists of the later period; early orientalist admitted some [of the Islamic] influence but did not want to admit the extent of the influence, because it is very unnerving when your attacking a people and calling them backward and barbaric, and then have to admit that in fact, that the reason you have become civilised and humanised is those very people. That is problematic, if you have to admit that the reason that you take baths is because of Muslim cleanliness, that the reason you have gardens to enjoy, is because of Muslims love of reminding themselves in this world, what they expect in the next world, because gardens are uniquely a eastern and western Islam pehnomenon; you find them [in that era] in asia also amongst these civilised Asians because the Asians were far more civilised than the Europeans; gardens do not show up in Europe untill they conquer Andalusia...They used to throw out their garbage and feaces out the window; the plague that happened in Europe is a result of it.

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    My Christian mother told me a story, that long ago on the “Ancient Times” there was too many wars, and Roman Empire conquered our home land( Dacia, an old name for Romania), and other countries in Europe and they have left writings and so on. And she told me that, “look how advanced we are today? This because of God’s will”. I was wondering, if it is true what my mother told me?
    I believe that God's will is that we love God and be good and be satisfied with His divine gifts and not to advance at all. Technology and knowledge is the dark path to ruin and ultimately the destruction of Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz View Post
    Hmmm funny that. We've all seen films with those Romans in large pool like baths so why did Shaykh Hamza say Europeans got it off the Muslims?

    Could the film makers got it wrong and they just pretend Romans were sophisticated?

    Here's more from the great white Shaykh! ☺ (from one of his old videos called 'Ihya Uloom ud Deen')

    The western university system is litterally stolen, without any credit, from the Islamic system of training individuals, ...and these studies have been done extensively by several orientalists of the later period; early orientalist admitted some [of the Islamic] influence but did not want to admit the extent of the influence, because it is very unnerving when your attacking a people and calling them backward and barbaric, and then have to admit that in fact, that the reason you have become civilised and humanised is those very people. That is problematic, if you have to admit that the reason that you take baths is because of Muslim cleanliness, that the reason you have gardens to enjoy, is because of Muslims love of reminding themselves in this world, what they expect in the next world, because gardens are uniquely a eastern and western Islam pehnomenon; you find them [in that era] in asia also amongst these civilised Asians because the Asians were far more civilised than the Europeans; gardens do not show up in Europe untill they conquer Andalusia...They used to throw out their garbage and feaces out the window; the plague that happened in Europe is a result of it.
    Islam is a relatively modern religion. Places of learning have been around for thousands of years and probably before recorded history. I don't think just because people become Muslims they are endowed with vast amounts of knowledge and technological prowess. Is Shaykh Hamza a historian? Throwing garbage out the window and faeces on the street? Sounds like India

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    Really? I thought that only jerks throw garbage out the window because they don’t know how to take care of our original home planet which God has given us this as our home, so it is as we are mocking what God has given us, right?

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    Europe was barbaric, uncivilised before the renaissance. The black death disease that killed 10s of millions throughout europe shows how dirty it was. People used to chop of heads and kick it around in the streets; this is the origins of the game of football (ref: my history teacher)

    Renaissance was based on knowledge 'stolen' from Islam:

    http://www.irfi.org/articles/article...he_europea.htm
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    It has been typical that during the history many nations have called their enemies and all strange cultures as barbaric. People in the Europe have called each others as barbaric tribe as well Asian tribes too.

    By the newest studies, there is no connection between the black death or the plague and barbarism. It´s because of the bacteria called Yersinia pestis and flea who bites people. Before it scientists believed it was a black rat and it´s flea whose spreaded it but later studies have shown that also a human flea has spreaded it. During the middle ages plague pandemia was known also in the Middle East, not only in the Europe.

    Mecca became infected in 1349. During the same year, records show the city of Mawsil (Mosul) suffered a massive epidemic, and the city of Baghdad experienced a second round of the disease. In 1351 Yemen experienced an outbreak of the plague, coinciding with the return of Sultan al-Mujahid Ali of Yemen from imprisonment in Cairo. His party may have brought the disease with them from Egypt.

    (Source: Wikipedia)

    I have some doubts about origin of the football too. Similar games were known already in the ancient Greek, China and Japan. If history teacher has claimed that it´s origin is the barbaric Europeans whose kicked their enemies heads as ball, I would call his quite racist.
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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu-Abdullah View Post
    Europe was barbaric, uncivilised before the renaissance. The black death disease that killed 10s of millions throughout europe shows how dirty it was. People used to chop of heads and kick it around in the streets; this is the origins of the game of football (ref: my history teacher)

    Renaissance was based on knowledge 'stolen' from Islam:

    http://www.irfi.org/articles/article...he_europea.htm
    How can that be... the Noble Quran has very little scientific knowledge in it. It would be like saying Christians are brilliant because Thomas Edison was brilliant and he was a Christian, so anyone using his knowledge is stealing from Christendom.

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    In my opinion, we Europeans got to much developed because we have studied, not because we “steal” from Thomas Edison. And, we have learned from him not stole from him.

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    Really? I thought that only jerks throw garbage out the window because they don’t know how to take care of our original home planet which God has given us this as our home, so it is as we are mocking what God has given us, right?
    Well it is a recycling scheme. The cows eat the garbage and the pigs, mangy dogs and rats eat faeces and scraps and anything that's left is taken away with heavy machinery when it piles up too much. Seems to work fine.

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    Oh, I understand now.

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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    In my opinion, we Europeans got to much developed because we have studied, not because we “steal” from Thomas Edison. And, we have learned from him not stole from him.
    We "the Europeans" borrowed ideas from the Greeks and Arabic scientists. I don´t call it as stealing because there isn´t the owner of knowledge (like math and other science). More developed "we" became when "we" manage to conquer other areas and stole their natural resources.

    I don´t know what this has to do with Thomas Edison, who was also the European origin.

    Well, that´s just my own theory and I have no idea what this has to do with the topic of this thread (as is this the will of Allah).
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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    How can that be... the Noble Quran has very little scientific knowledge in it. It would be like saying Christians are brilliant because Thomas Edison was brilliant and he was a Christian, so anyone using his knowledge is stealing from Christendom.
    Orientalists are saying this themselves now, that's whom Shaykh Hamza learnt it off.

    The Muslims taught it to the Christians willingly but when you do not attribute it to the right source (such as lie and say this knowledge is from the Greeks and not Muslims), that's stealing!

    Regarding emphasis on 'knowledge' from Muslims that enabled the renaissance, this is not an exaggeration, I happen to have the same video that AbdullahAziz has ������, just take a look at what Hamza Yusufs research has found;

    the Shaykh gave an account of an ancient Muslim Scholar who gave an example of meeting a Christian Scholar and found that he did not have any foundation for speaking, because he didn't understand the intellectual underpinning of munadhara [dialectic]; the Scholar taught him a sound Islamic intellectual principle and then as they discussed the Christian view of Jesus [pbuh], the Christian said that the proof that Jesus [pbuh] is god is that he brought the dead to life, the Scholar said that according to that analogy, he has to also believe that moses [pbuh] was a god too for he brought an inanimate object to life, the Christian said, "no we do not say that", the shaykh said, "but is it not a sound intellectual principle/analogy that I just told you"?, the Christian said "I'm confused"!.

    Another Scholar commented on that, saying "the Christians [even their Scholars] had a hard time understanding things".

    Shaykh Hamza continued: well how is it now that they teach fozzy logic, how is it now that they teach bhumian logic and all these intellectual sciences, well if you study how they learn it, you will see that they learnt it by interaction with muslims; Roger Bacon who was teaching in England used to wear a Saracen robe and a turban and he got acused by the Church of England of apostasy because he was teaching the people that the muslims actually had important things that they should learn.

    The following points were made by the Shaykh:

    The pope used to send Christians to andalusia to learn from Muslims.

    There was no universites in the west untill they started looking at how the Muslims were teaching their children.

    The western university introduced the concept of 'lesensia losendi' [licence to teach], whcih was a direct translation from Islamic sources.

    the Islamic word 'Doc-Tur' [Doctor] is infact a person who had a license to teach and before a person got a license to teach, he had to bring forth a fatwa and defend it before a group of Scholars; the west copied the word 'doctor' and copied the same methodology...

    The word 'Chair' [as in 'Chairman', 'the chair of the organisation' etc,] is from Islam; Islamic teachers used to sit on the chair, and they used to be called 'Chair of Fiqh', 'Chair of Hadith', etc, etc, and the students used to sit on the floor.

    The gown and the tussle hat used when a western student graduates, is from Islam; this is what Muslim graduates used to wear, and even the tussle on top of that hat is taken from Islam too; Muslim graduates used to be given a hat with a tussle so as to remind them that Allah has them by the naseeyah [forelock] and they should fear Allah.

    If you look at the sciences of the muslims, the Arabic Grammer is the first deep intellectual analysis of language; prior to that, grammer was verry superficial. The Arab Grammarians went into such depth and profundity into the language that they presaged all of modern linguistic thought and theory; if you take old grammer books from Basra and Kufa, which were the two great centres for grammer in the classicial Islamic world, and you look at the ideas that these people were talking about, you litterally become overwhelmed and amazed at the subtlety and depth of this intellectual tradition; they scientifically broke down the Arabic language; they recognised patterns that had not been recognised in language before; what they now call semantic trees, diagraming, they [the muslims] were doing all these things;

    they taught the Jewish people grammer of Hebrew; prior to that hebrewic grammer was extremely rudementary, if you look, the hebrews did not even know that their language was based on trilitteral roots, the muslim grammarians taught them that; the muslim grammarians taught them adjectives; the Hewbrew language was extremely poor in adjectives; all of medevil Hebrewaic poetry is based on Arabic metres of poetry developed by Al-Khalid Ibn Ahmed; the jews did not have sophisticated poetry prior to that; there great poetry is all based on Andalusian Jewish poets, who were imitating the metres of the Muslim poetry; so they [the jews] have massive intellectual debt [to the muslims].

    And I really think that the intellectual debt that Europe [owes Muslims for] what they call the 'Judeo.Christian' culture, which is a fabricated word invented in the 1930's or sometihng; prior to that, they used to call it the Greco-Roman culture and suddenly this word pops up, and now they call it the Judeo-Christian culture; obviously, during the progroms that existed, no Christian would want the name 'Judeo' attached to the Christian culture; that would be an ethema, I mean, why were they kicking them out?; these people owe a massive debt to the Muslim Ummah that goes beyond explanation, I mean, you just have to look at their own sceinces...

    One of their theory; this is the traditional European theory about Islam; is that all of the classical Hellenistic traditions were deposited in the bank of the muslim Caliphate; in other words, we got all these books and put them in our banks and we never looked at them and there was no accruing of intellectual interest and they just stayed there; and then these great Europeans re-discovered them, and that was it!.

    That is a complete fabrication of what happened; the Muslims took Hellenistic thought and expanded on it, critisized it, threw out large sections of it, used sections of it and re-introduced it in Europe solely with commentary, in other words, there is no St. Thomas Aquinas without Ibn Rushd, and he [St.Thomas] is their greatest medevil Scholar and he litterally is the foundation of the Catholic Church; St. Thomas Aqunias does not exist without Ibn Rushud, and you could look at his [St. Thomas'] section on Just war and recognise that it is just a translation of Islamic Jursiprudence from Ibn Rushud's book, he [St. Thomas] talks about Muslihah, Mufsidah, I mean it's massive [the copying].

    Mathemetics: there is no Newton without Ibn Kurrah, there is no Newton without Khawarizmi, there is no lebenige, there is no calculus without Algebra, which is a contribution of the muslims, there is no Higher mathemetics without people like Omar khayam, it's impossible, and this is true, this is fact, why then, you see out of this Arrogance, why then are they so abusive?

    [then the Shaykh went on to talk about what he thinks one meaning of the end of time sign that the slave girl with give birth to her master, is; he said]: I think one of it's meaning is that; the Muslims were an intellectually humble people, based on slavehood to Allah and it gave birth to the western civilisation, then Europe turn around and treats the Muslims like some pathetic amma, that they can just order around, destroy with impunity, go in and do whatever they want and not give any attribution of what they've stolen; I say stolen simply because, knowledge is free for everyone, but you steal it when you dont attribute it to the source, to where it was derived from. there is an intellectual responsibility that goes with taking the ideas of others, and this is why, even in this culture they footnote everything, well why dont you footnote that our whole civilisation came from the Islamic civilisation; theres your number one footnote. ☺

    I read a book called the History of knowledge by Charlse Vanadoran and in it, one of the people he dedicates it to is Ibn Khaldun; but the truth is, he should have dedicated the whole book to the Islamic civilisation, who were not only the caretakers of human knolwedge for 800 years, but who also added to it great thought; great ideas, and then gave it to us; the muslims used to teach Christians in Andalusia; the Christians used to sit at the feet of the muslims and the muslims allowed them to sit in their circles; some of the [Islamic] Scholars used to critisize this; infact Qadi Iyad said that we shouldn't allow Christians to sit in our circles because they take all of our knowledge back to their people and don't tell them where they got it from; the intellectual legacy [of the Muslims] is Awesome and overwhelming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    How can that be... the Noble Quran has very little scientific knowledge in it.
    The Quran emphasises learning, hadith says seek knowledge even if you have to go to China, thus Islam galvanised Muslims to learn, study and become great intellectuals!
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    Re: How do I know if this is a will of Allah?

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    I do not have much idea on this subject but have some references here in my files (unedited) as they can be of some use to your info & quest




    In that era, a thorough system of medical education was created in the Arab-Muslim world (1? , 4)? . Arabic medical studies consisted of initial training in such basic sciences as alchemy, pharmacognosy, anatomy, and physiology, which was followed by clinical training in hospitals, where students performed physical examinations, attended ward rounds, and clinical lectures (1? , 2)? . Upon completion of training, future physicians were required to pass oral and practical exams in order to be licensed. Medicine was not only a profession or science, but also a philosophical attitude based upon religion and culture, obeying codes of ethics characterizing the physician’s behavior and obligations to patients, colleagues, and the community (4)? .At the same time, secular hospitals (Bimaristans), developed all over the Arab world (1)? . These were well-organized institutions, run under specific regulations and directed by physicians (1? , 2)? . No sexual, religious, social, or economic discrimination interfered with patients’ treatment (1). Detailed medical records were kept (1)? . These hospitals were adequately equipped, and had both inpatient and outpatient units (1? , 2)? . Small, mobile hospital units were also created to serve distant areas and battle fields (1)? . The first known hospital was established in Damascus in 706 C.E., while the most important one, located in Baghdad, was established in 982 C.E. (2)? .Along with progress in medicine, there were remarkable developments in pharmacology (1? , 2)? . In the 9th century C.E., manuscripts of Dioscurides and Galen translated from Greek formed the basis of further understanding. Arab scholars became acquainted with herbs, experimented with anesthetics, developed techniques such as distillation, crystallization, solution, and calcinations (1? , 2)? and introduced new drugs such as camphor, senna, musk, alum, sandalwood, ambergris, mercury, aloes, and aconite. They also developed syrups and juleps, created flavoring extracts made of rose water, orange or lemon peel, and experimented with poisons and antidotes (1? , 2? , 4)? . The most famous manual was The Comprehensive Book on Materia Medica and Foodstuffs, an alphabetical guide to over 1400 simples, written by Ibn al-Baytar (2)? . The first pharmacies were established in Baghdad in 754 C.E. In the 12th century C.E., pharmacology was differentiated from medicine and alchemy and became an independent discipline (1)? . The impact of Arabic pharmacology in Europe was tremendous for centuries. Terms used in everyday pharmacy and chemistry such as drug, alkali, alcohol, elixir, aldehydes, etc., are derived from the Arabic (1)? .


    Advances in medical sciences were not an isolated phenomenon. Astonishing progress was made in astronomy, mathematics, chemistry, and other fields of science (1? , 6? , 8)? . Prominent astronomers were Ibn Firnas, who constructed a planetarium and reputedly was the first man to fly; Al-Zarqali, who created a kind of astrolabe for measuring the motion of the stars; Al-Bitruji, who studied stellar movements; Al-Fargani, who wrote the Elements on Astronomy; and al-Sufi, who described the Andromeda galaxy. Mathematics was closely linked to astronomy and almost every mathematician was also an astronomer (8)? . Arithmetic, algebra, geometry, and trigonometry flourished. Famous geometricians were Al-Hajjaj ibn Yusuf, who first translated Euclid’s Elements; and Muhammad and Hasan Banu Musa, who wrote books on the measurement of the sphere and trisection of angles and who discovered kinematical methods of drawing ellipses (8)? . Among arithmeticians and algebraists, al-Khwarazmi was considered the greatest. He obtained data from Greeks and Hindus and transmitted arithmetical and algebraic knowledge, which exerted great influence upon medieval mathematics (8)? . Finally, trigonometry was developed along with astronomy with important representatives such as Ahmad al-Nahawandi, Al-Khwarizmi, Habash al-Hasib, Yahya ibn abi Mansur, and Sanad ibn Ali (8)? . In the field of chemistry, Jabir Ibn Haiyan introduced the meaning of experimentation, leading from alchemy to modern chemistry. Additionally, the Golden Age was characterized by technological, architectural, and artistic achievements (Figs. 1? and 2)? . Methods for irrigation including underground channels, windmills, and waterwheels were some of the Arabic inventions (6? , 9)? , while even today Arab architectural miracles and unique objects of art can be admired in many countries, with many of the best examples in southern Spain.



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    At the Maragha observatory, Najm al-Din al-Qazwini al-Katibi (d. 1277), in his Hikmat al-'Ain, wrote an argument for a heliocentric model, but later abandoned the model. Qutb al-Din Shirazi (b. 1236) also discussed the possibility of heliocentrism, but rejected it.[41] Ibn al-Shatir (b. 1304) developed a geocentric system that employed mathematical techniques, such as the Tusi couple and Urdi lemma, that were almost identical to those Nicolaus Copernicus later employed in his heliocentric system, implying that its mathematical model was influenced by the Maragha school.[72]


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    Syed, I. B. () Islamic Medicine: 1000 years ahead of its times. Athar, S. eds. Islamic Medicine www.islam-usa.com/im4.html. Accessed January 12, 2006.? . National Library of Medicine (1998) Medieval Islamic Medicine. Islamic Culture and the Medical Arts www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/islamic_medical/islamic_02.html. Accessed January 12, 2006.? . Oswego City School District Regents Exam Prep Center () Golden Age of Islam www.regentsprep.org/Regents/global/themes/goldenages/islam.cfm. Accessed January 12, 2006.? Haddad, F. S. (1993) Arab contribution to medicine. Bull. Soc. Liban. Hist. Med. 1,21-33? . Horace Mann Academic Middle School () Science and Culture in Medieval Islamic Cultures: Part 1 www.sfusd.k12.ca.us/schwww/sch618/ScienceMath/Science_and_Math.html. Accessed on January 6, 2006? . IslamiCity.com () The Golden Age. Islam and Islamic History in Arabia and The Middle East www.islamicity.com/mosque/ihame/sec7.htm. Accessed January 6, 2006.? Haddad, F.S. (1993) Pioneers of Arabian medicine. Bull. Soc. Liban. Hist. Med. 3,74-83? Ead, H. A. eds. History of Islamic Science 2 www.levity.com/alchemy/islam13.html. Accessed January 11, 2006.? . Horace Mann Academic Middle School () Science and Culture in Medieval Islamic Cultures: Part 4 www.sfusd.k12.ca.us/schwww/sch618/ScienceMath/Science_and_Math.html. Accessed on January 6, 2006? Shaban, S. F., Abu-Zidan, F. M. (2003) A quantitative analysis of medical publications from Arab countries. Saudi Med. J. 24,294-296 Medline? Tadmouri, G. O., Bissar-Tadmouri, N. A (2004) Major pitfall in the search strategy on PubMed. Saudi Med. J. 25,7-10 Medline? Zetterstrom, R. (2002) Bibliometric data: a disaster for many non-American biomedical journals. Acta Paediatr. 91,1020-1024 CrossRefMedline? Soteriades, E. S., Falagas, M. E. (2005) An analysis of the geography of biomedical research in the European Union. BMJ 331,192-194 ? Bliziotis, I. A., Paraschakis, K., Vergidis, P. I., Karavasiou, A. I., Falagas, M. E. (2005) Worldwide trends in quantity and quality of published articles in the field of Infectious Diseases. BMC Infect. Dis. 5,16 CrossRefMedline? .


    Ibn al-Haytham (latinized Alhazen[8] full name Abū ʿAlī al-Ḥasan ibn al-Ḥasan ibn al-Haytham أبو علي، الحسن بن الحسن بن الهيثم; c. 965 – c. 1040) was a mathematician, astronomer, and physicist of the Islamic Golden Age.[9] He made significant contributions to the principles of optics and visual perception in particular, his most influential work being his Kitāb al-Manāẓir (كتاب المناظر, "Book of Optics"), written during 1011–1021, survived in the Latin edition.[10] He was also an early proponent of the concept that a hypothesis must be proved by experiments based on confirmable procedures or mathematical evidence, as such anticipating the scientific method.[11][12][13]


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    Main article: List of Muslim astronomers
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    Biologists, neuroscientists, and psychologists[edit]

    Further information: Islamic psychological thought


    Chemists and alchemists[edit]

    Further information: Alchemy (Islam)




    Economists and social scientists[edit]

    Further information: Islamic economics in the world
    See also: List of Muslim historians and Historiography of early Islam




    Geographers and earth scientists[edit]


    Further information: Muslim Agricultural Revolution




    Mathematicians[edit]


    Further information: Islamic mathematics: Biographies



    Philosophers[edit]


    For a detailed list of Muslim philosophers, refer to the List of Muslim philosophers, for an exhaustive list of widely-known philosophers with Muslim faith or Islamic background, including modern day philosophers from Muslim community, a list is given here;



    Physicians and surgeons[edit]


    Main article: List of Muslim doctors


    Physicists and engineers[edit]


    Further information: Islamic physics






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    Also, when Titanic sunk while trying to go the destination, and 2000 people slept forever I suppose, does this means that God wanted that way to happen? Or, it is simply because the sailers and the captain did not payed attention?

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    Also, when Titanic sunk while trying to go the destination, and 2000 people slept forever I suppose, does this means that God wanted that way to happen? Or, it is simply because the sailers and the captain did not payed attention?
    All 2000 did not die and it was sunk due to their arrogance.

    "Not even God himself could sink this ship.” — Employee of the White Star Line, at the launch of the Titanic, May 31, 1911




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