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    The Christmas Experience

    The perfect Christmas tree is bought. Adorned with ornaments and glittering with tinsel, it stands by the window. The stores are crammed with shoppers hunting for presents and the little ones anxiously waiting for Santa.

    Busy with Christmas fever, wonder did you ever, did the Bible or Jesus made any injunction on Christmas ever?

    Ponder upon the following analysis on Christmas, and the Truth will become clearer and clearer.

    Does Christmas have Biblical Evidence?
    The word 'Christmas' does not exist in the Bible. The Bible has closed lips on the entire feast of Christmas, with one exception, the decoration of a tree. The Bible itself criticizes the decoration of the (Christmas) trees:

    "The customs of the people are worthless, they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel, they adore it with silver and gold, they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter" (Jeremiah 10-3,4).

    European Pre-Christian pagans superstitiously believed that the green trees had special protective powers. In fact the use of the Christmas tree began only in the 17th century in Strasbourg, France and from there it spread to Germany, Britain and then to the U.S. "Tree worship was a common feature of religion among the Teutonic and Scandinavian peoples of northern Europe before their conversion to Christianity…German settlers brought the Christmas tree custom to the American colonies in the 17th century. By the 19th century its use was quite widespread". (Compton's Encyclopedia, 1998 Edition)

    Was Jesus born on Dec. 25?

    Neither the date 25th Dec. nor any other date on Jesus' birth is mentioned in the Bible. It was not until the year 530 C.E. that a monk, Dionysus Exigus, fixed the date of Jesus' birth on Dec. 25th. . "He wrongly dated the birth of Christ according to the Roman system (i.e., 754 years after the founding of Rome) as Dec. 25, 753". (Encyclopedia Britannica, 1998 ed.) This date was chosen in keeping with the holidays already indoctrinated into pagans beliefs.

    Roman pagans celebrated Dec. 25th as the birth of their 'god' of light, Mithra.

    "In the 2nd century A..D., it (Mithraism) was more general in the Roman Empire than Christianity, to which it bore many similarities" (The Concise Columbia Encyclopedia, 1995 ed.

    Other pagan 'gods' born on Dec. 25th are: Hercules the son of Zeus (Greeks); Bacchus, 'god' of wine (Romans); Adonis, 'god' of Greeks, and 'god' Freyr of Greek-Roman pagans.

    What about Santa Claus?

    If aliens descended on earth during the Christmas season, they would undoubtedly believe Christmas as being Santa's birthday. The words 'Santa Claus', appear nowhere in the Bible.

    However, Saint Nicholas (Santa Claus) was a real person, a bishop, who was born 300 years after Jesus. According to legend, he was extremely kind and set out at night to bring presents to the needy. After his death on 6th of Dec., school boys in Europe began celebrating a feast day each year.

    Queen Victoria later changed the celebration date from Dec. 6th to Dec. 24th eve.

    Did Jesus or his Companions Celebrate Christmas?

    If Jesus meant his followers to celebrate Christmas, he would have practiced it himself and enjoined it on his followers. There is no mention in the entire Bible that any of his followers ever celebrated Jesus' birthday like Christians do today.

    "The church did not observe a festival for the celebration of the event of Christmas until the 4th century" (Grolier's Encyclopedia)

    Thus we see that neither the Bible nor Jesus and his companions say anything about the celebration of Christmas which currently involves fanfare, commercialization, and extravagent spending, devoid of any spiritual relevance.

    We'll now analyze the real person of Jesus (peace be upon him), in the light of the Bible and Islam.

    What did Jesus Say about Himself?
    In many places in the Bible, Jesus, referring to himself as a Prophet said:

    "A Prophet is not without honor, save in his own country, and in his own house" (Matthew 13:57),

    "Nevertheless I must walk today and tomorrow and the day following, for it cannot be that a Prophet persists out of Jerusalem". (Luke 13:33).

    Jesus Received God's Revelation

    Similarly, Jesus Christ too, as a Prophet, received revelations from God: "But now you seek to kill me, a man that had told you the truth, which I heard of God" (John 8:40)

    Jesus Prayed to his God

    "And when he (Jesus) had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray" (Matthew 14:23)

    Obvious question: If Jesus was God, who was he praying to?

    Jesus put himself Equal to other Humans

    Jesus put himself equal to other humans in the eyes of God.

    "My father and your father, my God and your God" (John 20:17)

    God does not have a God, But Jesus had a God! Moreover, the gospel writers referred to Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) as the 'son of man' about 85 times in the Gospels, and never once did he explicitly called himself 'God', or 'God the Son', or 'The Begotton Son of God'.

    Jesus Preached God's Oneness

    Jesus Christ, as a true Prophet of God, taught monotheism. When asked, 'What is the first of all commandments', Jesus replied:

    "...The first of all the Commandments is, Hear O Israel; the Lord our God is One Lord" (Mark 12:29)

    "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou has sent" (John 17:3)

    Prophets of God

    God, by his mercy, sent numerous Prophets throughout history to all nations as guides and role models. Some of the prophets were Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Jesus and the Last Prophet Muhammad (peace be on all of them). They all came with the same basic message, which is the Oneness of God, without any partners, sons or daughters.

    This Oneness of God in its complete essence, preached by all prophets, was later distorted by some segments of humanity and naming these 'distortions' as 'religions', they left the worship of one true God and replaced it with worshiping humans, cows and fire. To purify humanity, God sent His last Prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him) as a guide for all mankind and through him revealed in His last Messge, The Quran:

    "They have adopted their scholars and monks as lords besides God and (also) Christ, the son of Mary, although they have been ordered to serve only God alone. There is no god but Him. Glory be to Him ! He is beyond what they associate (with Him)...." (Quran 9:31)

    This utmost obedience and worship to one God, in its truest sense forms the basis of Islam. The entire Quran has been committed to memory by millions of Muslims around the world and preserved by God Himself from any interpolations, unlike previous scriptures, to provide guidance for all ages.

    What Does Islam Teach?

    Islam calls humanity to the service of the One, Omnipotent Creator ('Allah' in Arabic). Islam teaches the oneness of mankind in the eyes of God regardless of superficial differences such as race & nationality. In Islam there is no superiority of whites over blacks or vice versa. Anything that disrupts society's harmony and deviates humans from worshiping one true God is disliked in Islam. Thus Islam recognizes the evils of alcohol, drugs, premarital sex, gambling etc. and advises humans to stay sway from these Satan's handiwork. Islam further provides detailed instruction about a person's relationship with God, with his family and the society. Thus no aspect of a person's life is outside of the guidance provided by God.

    Born Sinless!

    Islam teaches that every child is born sinless with a pure heart and an inner instinct to realize the oneness of God. It is the parents or the environment that deviates this child to associate partners with God (in the form of multiple gods) or to reject God altogether.

    No Mediator

    There is no mediator between God and man. There is no need of one, for God, the All knowing, can listen and answer our sincere prayers regardless of our state and place.

    Salvation comes through submitting to the pure belief in One God and following His guidance as revealed in the Quran, and not through the vicarious sacrifice (murder) of an innocent human being. Thus Islam is a rational religion based on justice and self accountability, and not on unjust and mysterious doctrines formulated by humans. Islam provides solutions to all the ills plaguing humanity. An example of Islam's stand on racial justice is provided below.

    Islam Dispels Racis

    One person's superiority over another is not based on his race, economic status or nationality but on his God-Consciousness and purity of character. God proclaims in the Quran:`"O mankind ! We have created you from a single (pair) of a male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other and not that you may despise each other. Verily the most honored of you in the sight of God is the most righteous..." (49:13).

    Likewise Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) proclaimed:"No Arab has any superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over a black man, or the black man any superiority over the white man. You are all the children of Adam, and Adam was created from clay."

    After studying Islam, Malcolm X, became a true Muslim. He remarks:

    "...America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem..."

    The Quran was revealed in the Arabic language, but translations of its meaning are available in English and other languages for non-Arabs. Likewise Islam is not restricted to people of the east or Arabs, it is a universal religion revealed for all of mankind.

    We invite all sincere humans to study Islam with an unbiased mind. Don't blindly follow the whims and paganistic influences of the environment around us. God bestowed upon us this superb mind to seek and live the truth; for we all will be accountable on the Day of Judgment for our beliefs and deeds. Don't delay your salvation.

    Welcome to Islam!





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    What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    Christmas is just a huge mirage where christians think its some kind of religious celebration and a reason to get festive and just blow your whole years income on presents
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    Very true it is a man made celebration that has no value but to buy gifts and spend time with family.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    Good info. Christmas in the US is seen as an economic stimulator. Many don't even know what it's really about.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    Christmas is a great way to go in debt and mess up your financial status. It is kind of like Obama's stimulus checks.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    Even some Christians speak out against this "bid'ah" practice of celebrating Christmas.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    Christmas is a very confusing event, as there are many layers of meaning and interwoven ideas behind it. in western culture there is a tradition of assimilating ideas and traditions from other cultures as and when they arrive.

    It is believed that a traditional year end celebration has been held in the west for as long as it is possible to know. this would have been a pagan festival (pagans worship nature and their envirtonment) with no other purpose than to celebrate the end of one year and the beginning of another. The shortest day of the year is the 21st december (the winter solstice) and the celebration would have traditionaly been held at this time (for example at stonehenge built 6000 years ago or similar pagan sites which are constructed essentialy as giant calenders which help mark the correct time).

    when the christians arrived they adopted this year-end celebration as their own and have added their own flourishes. Recently there has been a move away from the promotion of christmas as a christian event and more emphasis placed on multi-faith acceptance such as the 'Winterval' festivals.

    any thing else is probably added as mentioned in a previous post as an advertisement for consumerism to boost the economy at this traditionaly slow time of year. there will always be those among us who will use any means to extract money from others.

    i hope all can put aside their differences and celebrate with one another having survived another year and to look forward to the next year.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    Assalamu ALikum

    This is what used to frustrate me. In the past I saw Christianity as a sencier religion, when it actually is full of additions and subtractions. I questioned to why they permit all these additions, but they just give you a fairy tale to where and how did it come to be practiced. GRrrRr

    Orthodox Christians celebrate it on a different month.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif View Post
    Was Jesus born on Dec. 25?

    Neither the date 25th Dec. nor any other date on Jesus' birth is mentioned in the Bible. It was not until the year 530 C.E. that a monk, Dionysus Exigus, fixed the date of Jesus' birth on Dec. 25th. . "He wrongly dated the birth of Christ according to the Roman system (i.e., 754 years after the founding of Rome) as Dec. 25, 753". (Encyclopedia Britannica, 1998 ed.) This date was chosen in keeping with the holidays already indoctrinated into pagans beliefs.

    Roman pagans celebrated Dec. 25th as the birth of their 'god' of light, Mithra.

    "In the 2nd century A..D., it (Mithraism) was more general in the Roman Empire than Christianity, to which it bore many similarities" (The Concise Columbia Encyclopedia, 1995 ed.

    Other pagan 'gods' born on Dec. 25th are: Hercules the son of Zeus (Greeks); Bacchus, 'god' of wine (Romans); Adonis, 'god' of Greeks, and 'god' Freyr of Greek-Roman pagans.
    An interesting discovery... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/ch...ers-claim.html

    One should also remember that Allah (swt) ordered Maryam, alayhas-salaam, to shake the tree and eat the dates. However, fruits of the date palm are available only during summer, and in fact, if I remember right, a shaykh once said that they're only available during June and July.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema View Post
    Assalamu ALikum

    This is what used to frustrate me. In the past I saw Christianity as a sencier religion, when it actually is full of additions and subtractions. I questioned to why they permit all these additions, but they just give you a fairy tale to where and how did it come to be practiced. GRrrRr

    Orthodox Christians celebrate it on a different month.
    Wa alaikum assalaam

    Not really. There is a very good reason/s for Christians celebrating Christmas.

    The 25th December is, in northern Europe, the time of the winter equinox - the time when the 'sun begins to 'return'. Do you pick up the meaning? After the 25th December, the sun begin to track back bringing with it an increasing amount of daylight and eventually spring and growth and the production of food.

    So, the 25th of December is pretty symbolic in people's lives. It was the sign winter was passing - that the 'light' lay ahead - something to look forward to in the dead of winter. At this time the 'message' of the Gospel becomes meaningful - the coming of Light.

    For Christians then, Christmas, is symbolic of the return of the Son - and therefore a time of celebration.

    Of course the holiday has become commercialized but such acts of overt consumerism have nothing to do with Christianity.

    If the author of the OP made a more enlightened study of Christianity he might find deeper meanings than just repeating what he has heard elsewhere.

    Please do not use spurious arguments to justify your own beliefs.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    Exacly,an unaccurate reason to how it become to be a practice.
    Unaccurate because it's not by God.

    O,sis, I wasn't arguing. I was just sharing an opinion.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    Very informative Post, Jazak Allah Khair brother for sharing

    format_quote Originally Posted by wayseer View Post
    Wa alaikum assalaam

    Not really. There is a very good reason/s for Christians celebrating Christmas.

    The 25th December is, in northern Europe, the time of the winter equinox - the time when the 'sun begins to 'return'. Do you pick up the meaning? After the 25th December, the sun begin to track back bringing with it an increasing amount of daylight and eventually spring and growth and the production of food.

    So, the 25th of December is pretty symbolic in people's lives. It was the sign winter was passing - that the 'light' lay ahead - something to look forward to in the dead of winter. At this time the 'message' of the Gospel becomes meaningful - the coming of Light.
    What has that to do with the born of Jesus?

    For Christians then, Christmas, is symbolic of the return of the Son - and therefore a time of celebration.
    Return? what about the born of him? Do Christians celebrate the born of Jesus peace be upon him or his return?
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus of nazareth/Jesus Christ(Peace be upon him).
    It was created by the roman empire when formalizing the christian faith into its state religion. It was put on that date because of a pagan and roman festivals. as far as i know.
    Unfortunately much of original Christianity has been changed to convert pagans and other cultures.

    Thanks to over commercialism (and capitalism) it has ruined the true meaning of Christmas. Now children have their hearts full of greed and what 'prezzies' they can get from people.

    Return? what about the born of him? Do Christians celebrate the born of Jesus peace be upon him or his return?
    Christians celebrate his birth on christmas eve night and Christmas day. They celebrate the death and rebirth of Jesus(Peace be upon him) on easter.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Danah View Post
    Return? what about the born of him? Do Christians celebrate the born of Jesus peace be upon him or his return?
    On Christmas Christians mostly remember the miraculous birth of Jesus.

    But we also remember that the arrival, life and death of Jesus was foretold in the prophecies of the Old Testament ... and connected with that we also remember that it is foretold that he will return at the end of time.

    Christmas may seem quite superficial and commercial these days, but it is a profound celebration of the promise we received with the birth of Jesus.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    If you think Christmas is pagan and man made, check out the even more amusing Easter ..

    completely borrowed from Persian culture..

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    egg offering to the king for Nowruz marking the vernal equinox..
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    I knew those easter eggs had to come from somewhere!

    Christmas and easter celebrations are reminder how important it is to ensure that religion (deen) should be kept free from pagan rituals and other innovations (bid'ah).
    If you are too lax with innovations, soon you get people praying to statues and idols and think crosses have magical powers.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    ^^ that is in fact what has happened with Christianity, and just about every other religion. I am not sure why the concepts of statues and a human god is so important, almost like people can't stand to glorify God beyond the pagan ways of the ignorant ancients.. then they outgrow their idols and become atheists, or hang on to some symbolic form of the religion and have it take a backseat to everything else.. and then wish to extend that ignorance over to Muslims, so that they too innovate and reduce their religion to some relic that they can shelve and reach for only on holidays...

    I think and Allah swt knows best it is exactly the reason why our days are fortified with Salat, charity and a month dedicated to fast and the journey of pilgrimage .. it is a constant renewal of your liege to Allah swt without reducing yourself to commercial gift giving!

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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    ^^ that is in fact what has happened with Christianity, and just about every other religion. I am not sure why the concepts of statues and a human god is so important, almost like people can't stand to glorify God beyond the pagan ways of the ignorant ancients.. then they outgrow their idols and become atheists, or hang on to some symbolic form of the religion and have it take a backseat to everything else.. and then wish to extend that ignorance over to Muslims, so that they too innovate and reduce their religion to some relic that they can shelve and reach for only on holidays...

    I think and Allah swt knows best it is exactly the reason why our days are fortified with Salat, charity and a month dedicated to fast and the journey of pilgrimage .. it is a constant renewal of your liege to Allah swt without reducing yourself to commercial gift giving!

    unfortunately, saint worship is leaking into Islam from right and left, indeed this the time of fitna. May ALLAH(swt) preserve this deen.
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    If you think Christmas is pagan and man made, check out the even more amusing Easter ..

    completely borrowed from Persian culture..

    egg offering to the king for Nowruz marking the vernal equinox..
    I wasn't aware of Easter eggs ever being used as 'offerings' in Christianity ...

    Instead they are remnants of the old pagan religions, which celebrated the new life emerging with the coming of spring.
    Since Jesus' resurrection demonstrates new life, and indeed the New Life we are offered through him, the old symbol of eggs seemed to fit the theme and stuck (and yes, hanging on to old symbols aided (rightly or worngly) the conversion of the followers of the old pagan religions)
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    Re: What Did Jesus Say About Christmas?

    format_quote Originally Posted by GreyKode View Post
    unfortunately, saint worship is leaking into Islam from right and left, indeed this the time of fitna. May ALLAH(swt) preserve this deen.
    We all do well to remember to look to GOD at all times. Nothing else should ever be of greater importance.
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