RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — An official Saudi newspaper says a man convicted of raping his daughter has been sentenced to receive 2,080 lashes over the course of a 13-year prison term.
The court in the holy city of Mecca found the man guilty of raping his teenage daughter for seven years while under the influence of drugs.
The Okaz newspaper reported Saturday that the man will receive the lashes in stages throughout his prison sentence. The man's name was not published.
Saudi religious police say the girl's uncle tipped them off to the crime.
Lashing is one of the penalties available to the clerics who serve as judges in Saudi Arabia and issue rulings according to the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islamic law.
Death penalty! No way.. what happens if later you discover the supposed rapist was not guilty - mistrials happen all the time. Perhaps if it is discovered that someone who got the death penalty was innocent, a random person who voted for the law in favour of the death penalty should be picked and he should be given the death penalty to pay for the death which he has inflicted on an innocent man.
i used to have a problem w/ the death penalty for rapists... Yes I believe that there should be no question that the person is guilty... but i was assualted by my best friends brother when i was at the university... due to some family (step family ) issues when i was younger it sent me into a spiral of PTSD ... I got so sick i couldn't even walk the 6 blocks to classes because i was getting sick any time i ate or drank anything. I did take it to trial. He wrote a letter apologizing .. (oops ) that i took w/ me to the police... it went to court. he plead guilty. to save myself the stress.. i opted for the plea bargin.. that and it was recommended that i do so... he was given 7 days in jail, 4 months suspended, and 4 years probation. It also went to a hearing at his university as he was at a different location than i was.... i acknowledged i didnt want him expelled because i didnt want it to come back on me that he never got a degree and couldn't have a decent life. How i regret that. I was so stupid in trying to do the right thing. I haven't finished my own degree because of how sick i was and now w/ where i am.... it hasn't been very good situation for me to return to studies
I had to move out of the town i was in and it was just an overall bad situation... Yes, i was alone in an apartment w/ him, but i knew his brother so well. He wouldn't have hurt a fly... and the worst thing was he used my own lack of self esteem against me. And yes... I also use this as a reason why i understand the idea of keeping the sexes seperate even though i wasn't raised w/ this being an issue.
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Imagine after burying them alive you discovered they were not guilty - what should happen then?
Guilty rapists should be buried alive.
I swear to God, they make me feel sick to my stomach. The pain/hurt they would have caused an individual, on the basis of what? Succumbing to urges they cannot withhold? And because of that, the victim is scarred mentally and phyically for life.
I read a few weeks ago about an Afghan girl who died because of her genitals being ripped due to, to much penetration from the American soldiers whilst repeatedly raping her. I read this from four sources so it's not a fake. Now tell me, do these sick individual deserve to see another daylight?
I could never get behind the death penalty for that same reason. You can't be 100% certain the person is guilty, even if they are found guilty in court, so eventually you WILL be executing innocents. I'd rather err on the side of not killing innocent people even if it means letting a few guilty people live.
Why didn't the BBC report this? The BBC always reports negative stories about Saudi Arabia. Stories that show victims get justice in Saudi Arabia are never rarely/never reported by the mainstream media.
The whole idea of, we don't really know whether the defendant is truly guilty but we still can sentence him to 58 years of his behind bars, is absurd. If there is any reasonable doubt that the defendant is not guilty, he should not be executed. Hitler was responsible for the deaths of many civilians and there is no doubt in my mind that he was guilty.
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It does not matter what you think. Once something has been decided in the Shariah then it's final. Those who claim to not support death penalty, when your sister, mother, wife, or daughter is raped, i like to see how composed and sticking your "morals" you are then.
The punishment for rape in Islam is same as the punishment for zina, which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.
Some scholars also say that he is required to pay a mahr to the woman.
So the judge has the choice of the four punishments mentioned in this verse, and may choose whichever he thinks is most suitable to attain the objective, which is to spread peace and security in society, and ward off evildoers and aggressors.
Absolutely disgusting... wAllahi under the influence of drugs or not, this man should first be castrated, lashed, imprisoned then publicly humiliated in whatever way is most befitting for a filthy animal like this. Even animals control themselves.
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most of the above are emotional responses. The man committed a heinous crime, no denying. But he was under influence of drugs. Was he addicted to drugs? You do know that people who are addicted to drugs are sick and need professional help? Not all but many. Druggies are humans. They need help. No, they are not evils who should be castrated. Physicians have responsibility towards this class of humanity. If this guy was addicted to drugs, and was committing crimes, Islamically he is not considered "sane." Wallahu Aalim. Yes, what he did was a crime, and due punishment should be given after the man's condition has been judged properly. Moreover, in a godless world, there is nothing wrong with rape. More so in the context of biological evolution.
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To all those doubting the death penalty. Just out of curiosity, say the convicted pleaded guilty. Would it then be acceptable to enforce the death penalty? Or can you think of more reasons to defend a beast?
I could never get behind the death penalty for that same reason. You can't be 100% certain the person is guilty, even if they are found guilty in court, so eventually you WILL be executing innocents. I'd rather err on the side of not killing innocent people even if it means letting a few guilty people live.
Yes I would agree even now we do have technology and stuff, it has proven wrong. I think the best thing to do is make sure there is a lot of evidence, also keep the person in jail for some years before execution..
To all those doubting the death penalty. Just out of curiosity, say the convicted pleaded guilty. Would it then be acceptable to enforce the death penalty? Or can you think of more reasons to defend a beast?
Even in England people have been found guilty of crimes but then later not guilty..It has happened when people have spent their life in prison and are innocent..
Tell that to the victim. You reap what you sow, hiding being substance addiction won't save you.
I am sure the victim also is a criminal to someone else.
Moreover, we all are victims of someone somewhere. Big deal? I am not downplaying the criminality of rape, its just that I think business tycoons running porno industry or all the Kings of Saudi land buying prostitute should be stoned to death before putting these psychologically ill men from poor class.
So called "justice" is always for the poor who gets caught, not for the rich and affluent, eh?
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