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If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

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    If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

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    If Shaytan disobeyed Allah why didnt Allah destroy or kill the Shaytan and create another angel?

    Do Angels grow old and die like us?
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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    Again if you read the Quran like suret Al'Araf you'd find the answer to that Q
    7 13 1 - If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?
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    [ Allah ] said, "Descend from Paradise, for it is not for you to be arrogant therein. So get out; indeed, you are of the debased.
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    7 14 1 - If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?
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    [Satan] said, "Reprieve me until the Day they are resurrected."

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    7 15 1 - If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?
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    [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, you are of those reprieved."

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    7 16 1 - If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?
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    [Satan] said, "Because You have put me in error, I will surely sit in wait for them on Your straight path.

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    7 17 1 - If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?
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    Then I will come to them from before them and from behind them and on their right and on their left, and You will not find most of them grateful [to You]."

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    7 18 1 - If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?
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    [ Allah ] said, "Get out of Paradise, reproached and expelled. Whoever follows you among them - I will surely fill Hell with you, all together."


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    I am surprised that you insist on calling yourself Muslim when the most basics of basics eludes you!
    angels do not grow old but everything in existence will one day die- doesn't require the Quran but ahadiths, so you need to graduate from the basics first!
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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    I hope everyone sees the doubts this individual is trying to spread on the webboard, if you reviewed his post it is clear he could answer his own questions by simply reading the quran, can you say troll?
    If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    more that the C stands for christian & k for kaffir be that as it may I wouldn't say particularly clever, if you've been on the board long enough and browsed the web long enough it becomes all routine.. so sit back and prepare to be entertained!

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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by شَادِنُ View Post
    so sit back and prepare to be entertained!
    I'll bring the popcorn
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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by cOsMiCiNtUiTiOn View Post
    I'll bring the popcorn
    the popcorn will be more entertaining than the show I am afraid
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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    If he is just a troll.. then he's only giving himself as an example.

    "And when they meet those who believe, they say, "We believe"; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, "Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers."" Sura Al Baqara
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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by ck1986 View Post
    another angel?
    Another angel? Don't you know about the jinn?
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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    Christians don't know that like the previous impostor 'showboat' who alleged to be a Muslim terrorist before he found Jesus hallelujah- of course he slipped on a similar snafu - they don't train them well at evangel camps!
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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?



    Brothers... sisters... didn't your parents ever tell you not to feed the trolls?
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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Muwaahid View Post
    I hope everyone sees the doubts this individual is trying to spread on the webboard, if you reviewed his post it is clear he could answer his own questions by simply reading the quran, can you say troll?
    I read the Quran but most of the time it doesnt make sense.
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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by ck1986 View Post
    I read the Quran but most of the time it doesnt make sense.
    or i don't understand it
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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by ck1986 View Post
    If Shaytan disobeyed Allah why didnt Allah destroy or kill the Shaytan and create another angel?

    Do Angels grow old and die like us?
    Shaytan/Iblis is not an angel. He is a jinn. Angels don't have any will of their own, they do whatever Allah tells them to do (if Shaytan was an angel he would not have disobeyed).

    Allah allowed him to live because he asked for a period in which to misguide the offspring of Adam and drag them into hell with him.

    Read this page.
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    Re: If Shaytan disobeyed Allah?

    Because Shaytan challenged almighty Allah and said I will make these people who you made them better than me disobay you and few of them are going to be grateful, so Allah said who will follow you will be in Hell. Engels dont go old in age but they will die in the last day of earth, even the angel of death himself as it says in authentic hadeethes.
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