× Register Login What's New! Contact us
Results 1 to 12 of 12 visibility 2518

Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

  1. #1
    Mustafa16's Avatar
    brightness_1
    Account Disabled
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    1,207
    Threads
    399
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    19
    Likes Ratio
    27

    Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    Report bad ads?

    i was wondering, because their views are not mainstream
    | Likes Umm Abed liked this post
    chat Quote

  2. Report bad ads?
  3. #2
    Huzaifah ibn Adam's Avatar Scholar
    brightness_1
    Student of Knowledge
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    South Africa
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    2,252
    Threads
    45
    Rep Power
    107
    Rep Ratio
    63
    Likes Ratio
    142

    Re: Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    Possibly. Allaahu A`lam.
    | Likes Umm Abed liked this post
    Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    اللي مالوش حد له ربّنا
    chat Quote

  4. #3
    Huzaifah ibn Adam's Avatar Scholar
    brightness_1
    Student of Knowledge
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    South Africa
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    2,252
    Threads
    45
    Rep Power
    107
    Rep Ratio
    63
    Likes Ratio
    142

    Re: Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    A person might ask: "If some calamity or difficulty afflicts me, how will I know if it's a test from Allaah Ta`aalaa, to bring me closer to Him, or if it is a Divine Punishment?"

    The Hukamaa (Wise Men) have given a simple answer:

    If after the difficulty befalls you, you become closer to Allaah, then it was a test (and you have passed). If after the difficulty befalls you, you move away from Allaah, then it was a Divine Punishment.

    والله تعالى أعلم
    | Likes Umm Abed liked this post
    Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    اللي مالوش حد له ربّنا
    chat Quote

  5. #4
    Mustafa16's Avatar
    brightness_1
    Account Disabled
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    1,207
    Threads
    399
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    19
    Likes Ratio
    27

    Re: Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam View Post
    A person might ask: "If some calamity or difficulty afflicts me, how will I know if it's a test from Allaah Ta`aalaa, to bring me closer to Him, or if it is a Divine Punishment?"


    The Hukamaa (Wise Men) have given a simple answer:


    If after the difficulty befalls you, you become closer to Allaah, then it was a test (and you have passed). If after the difficulty befalls you, you move away from Allaah, then it was a Divine Punishment.


    والله تعالى أعلم
    well then the Gulen movement is not being punished, because after the persecution started the Gulenists started to move closer to Allah....
    chat Quote

  6. Report bad ads?
  7. #5
    Huzaifah ibn Adam's Avatar Scholar
    brightness_1
    Student of Knowledge
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    South Africa
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    2,252
    Threads
    45
    Rep Power
    107
    Rep Ratio
    63
    Likes Ratio
    142

    Re: Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    Did they really? Or do they just think they're moving closer to Allaah Ta`aalaa? That is the question.

    Shaytaan can sometimes deceive a person into thinking he is doing good, when in reality he is doing evil. To know whether something is good or not, you need to weigh it in the scales of the Sharee`ah.
    | Likes Umm Abed, Serinity liked this post
    Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    اللي مالوش حد له ربّنا
    chat Quote

  8. #6
    Serinity's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldtimer
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Earth
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    2,854
    Threads
    72
    Rep Power
    57
    Rep Ratio
    38
    Likes Ratio
    81

    Re: Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?



    may Allah protect us from the evil whispers and traps of the Shayateen. Ameen.

    I wonder why they are deviant? what makes them deviant?

    Allahu alam.
    | Likes Huzaifah ibn Adam liked this post
    Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
    " Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "

    Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an
    Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.
    chat Quote

  9. #7
    Huzaifah ibn Adam's Avatar Scholar
    brightness_1
    Student of Knowledge
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    South Africa
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    2,252
    Threads
    45
    Rep Power
    107
    Rep Ratio
    63
    Likes Ratio
    142

    Re: Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    One of the main reasons is because they believe the Jews and Christians of today will be going to Jannah.

    Read this too:

    https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php...16244508516315
    Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    اللي مالوش حد له ربّنا
    chat Quote

  10. #8
    Mustafa16's Avatar
    brightness_1
    Account Disabled
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    1,207
    Threads
    399
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    19
    Likes Ratio
    27

    Re: Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam View Post
    One of the main reasons is because they believe the Jews and Christians of today will be going to Jannah.

    Read this too:

    https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php...16244508516315
    we don't believe that suleyman hilmi tunahan is a prophet....that's nonsense....
    chat Quote

  11. #9
    Serinity's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldtimer
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Earth
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    2,854
    Threads
    72
    Rep Power
    57
    Rep Ratio
    38
    Likes Ratio
    81

    Re: Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam View Post
    One of the main reasons is because they believe the Jews and Christians of today will be going to Jannah.

    Read this too:

    https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php...16244508516315
    Hopefully none of my relatives have been influenced or gullible enough to be decieved. Cuz I've been reading one of the books from Fethullah gulen. On Islamic Ettiquettes, and stuff like that.

    may Allah protect us all, and guide us all. Ameen.
    Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
    " Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "

    Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an
    Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.
    chat Quote

  12. Report bad ads?
  13. #10
    Mustafa16's Avatar
    brightness_1
    Account Disabled
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    1,207
    Threads
    399
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    19
    Likes Ratio
    27

    Re: Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    Hopefully none of my relatives have been influenced or gullible enough to be decieved. Cuz I've been reading one of the books from Fethullah gulen. On Islamic Ettiquettes, and stuff like that.

    may Allah protect us all, and guide us all. Ameen.
    what did you not like about his book, brother?
    chat Quote

  14. #11
    Huzaifah ibn Adam's Avatar Scholar
    brightness_1
    Student of Knowledge
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    South Africa
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    2,252
    Threads
    45
    Rep Power
    107
    Rep Ratio
    63
    Likes Ratio
    142

    Re: Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    http://www.asic-sa.co.za/images/book...vement_pdf.pdf

    Here's a Kitaab about them by Majlisul Ulama of South Africa, if you're interested in reading it.
    Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    اللي مالوش حد له ربّنا
    chat Quote

  15. #12
    Serinity's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldtimer
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Earth
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    2,854
    Threads
    72
    Rep Power
    57
    Rep Ratio
    38
    Likes Ratio
    81

    Re: Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    what did you not like about his book, brother?
    Well, till now, Idk much. It speaks of self-sacrifice and sacrificing your time, health and well-being for the greater good.

    But there is a limit to sacrifice. Imo.

    I just hope that IF they have some anti-Islamic perspectives, that we are able to see it.
    To answer your question: I have not found anything of dislike. But what I disagree on is the scope of sacrifice. There is a limit to that.
    Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?

    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
    " Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "

    Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an
    Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.
    chat Quote


  16. Hide
Hey there! Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs? Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. Is the Gulen movement's persecution punishment from Allah for deviant beliefs?
Sign Up

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 26
    Last Post: 08-22-2016, 08:50 AM
  2. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-22-2013, 07:01 AM
  3. Punishment or Test from Allah?
    By ny_aish in forum Advice & Support
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 03-20-2010, 07:38 PM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-17-2007, 01:53 AM
  5. AIDS: A Punishment From Allah
    By Talha777 in forum Health & Science
    Replies: 118
    Last Post: 03-11-2007, 04:49 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
create