Let me start of to say this is not an attack. Just a confession of sorts.
I am one of the most tolerant people ever. When I see any reports or read any articles on any form of discrimination, be it Racial, Religous, Sexist, or any other form.. it disgusts me, and I wonder why people cannot just realise that it doesnt matter..
But What I have to say is as of lately, I do not feel the same about the Islamic people. Ive head people implying that Islamic people should leave this country (Australia) and of course I responded to them in a hostile way, telling them that they were disciminitive and unfair. Now after viewing the over reactions, intolerance, and near fanatic behaviour of you, It makes me wonder If there IS any place for people like you in our Society. Your ideals appear to clash with ours.
It is a shame you have brought someone who had solid views on tolerance to ALL people, to think nearly the opposite about Islam.
Hmmmmm....well u gotta understand that it's just a teeny weeny handful of retards among us that are intollerant, fanatics and extremists.
I don't mind getting coughed on in the streets by hate filled people, i'll just sit back and let them make a fool of me.....That's the concept you want us to have.
THAT's great!!!!!
NOT!
I was coughed on by a stupid person on the HIGH STREET today as i was returning from my class, and i see a great difference in attitude towards me now that i have taken up Islamic clothing, i didn't do anything and just walked away.....I could have said something at least...
That's the way you want us to play it?
Of course, you anger us, we will be angered, but if it's just a small matter like...i dunno......MOST OF US "NON-RETARDS" will just walk away and tollerate it.
Now after viewing the over reactions, intolerance, and near fanatic behaviour of you, It makes me wonder If there IS any place for people like you in our Society. Your ideals appear to clash with ours.
Are you accusing all Muslims of behaving in this way?
I am one of the most tolerant people ever. When I see any reports or read any articles on any form of discrimination, be it Racial, Religous, Sexist, or any other form.. it disgusts me, and I wonder why people cannot just realise that it doesnt matter..
It does matter! If one people allow themselves to be discriminated against then they are just asking for it. So people have to stand up for their rights and let it be heard.
But What I have to say is as of lately, I do not feel the same about the Islamic people. Ive head people implying that Islamic people should leave this country (Australia) and of course I responded to them in a hostile way, telling them that they were disciminitive and unfair. Now after viewing the over reactions, intolerance, and near fanatic behaviour of you, It makes me wonder If there IS any place for people like you in our Society. Your ideals appear to clash with ours.
I resonate czgibsons comment "Are you accusing all Muslims of behaving this way?"
It is a shame you have brought someone who had solid views on tolerance to ALL people, to think nearly the opposite about Islam.
No one brought you to anything - we each walk a path and like you said "it dosent matter" so if it truly dosent matter as you say then why is it changing you?
You have to realize the same way you are being offended and being disgusted by "us Muslims"
the same way there are many Muslims who get disgusted by the actions of the Danish newspaper and then to top it off Norway joins in , France joins in and then to make matters worse Italy joins in as well on pupose to aleviate the matter further!
So please think carefully - It may "not matter" to on lookers but to those to whom it is directed it certainly does matter!
Malt : peace
if u were tolerant as u say you would know that wen certain ppl that belong to a group do something that does not mean it is the majority...
for example: there are mnay christians who are bad ppl... who abuse us and hate us YET there are very good, generous, humane and simply nice christians whom we befriend,
just because for example one of them did somethign inapproraite does not mean that ALL OF THEM ARE TEH SAME....
the same goes for Jews and Muslims
Just because u know, seen etc some muslims doing sth negative , bad or destructive DOES NOT MEAN ALL OF US ARE THE SAME WAY...
WITH THE MENTALITY THAT U HAVE ALLOW ME TO SAY U ARE NOT AT ALL TOLERant....
did u read about islam from well known sources before u came with that conclusion??
the muslims u see on Tv are not really muslim or they are but they understand it wrong...they think what they are doigis a part of islam IT IS NOT ? DID U KNOW JIHAD IS NOT BAOUT FIGHTING THE ENEMIES?? did u know that > i dont htink so
allow me to define it
jihad: is ANYTHING be it worship, helpiing, learning wrking, defending etc etc for the sake of allah(god) so tehse extremist understand islam wrong..
i hope i was clear
besides u seem like a smart person... do u really belive everythign teh media says ????
ok look if u want to know more about our prophet visit: www.amrkhaled.net
click on top on the languages part and pick ur language...
btw excuse me but wat is Jedi??
thank u and peace...
So I take it that the Jedi faith actually is based on the Star Wars films? I thought they were unrelated. Quite an interested report though... it seems like it's not actually recognised as a proper religion yet.
Malt: Now after viewing the over reactions, intolerance, and near fanatic behaviour of you,
As you addressed the whole muslim nation, I presume that includes me too. Before submitting your post, did you stop to think that there are billions of muslims who have not resorted to extreme displays of anger and only signed petitions to protest against the offensive peacefully? Then you may find it surprising, that neither I, or any other muslim I know has behaved in the way you've described. In fact, I'm against extremism of any sort. You have done a good job of tarring everyone with the same brush. I pity you for your thinking.
Are you accusing all Muslims of behaving in this way?
Peace
Greetings
This is really nice to see. Your beliefs aside... when it comes to muslims, you have the common sense to see the facts for what they really are. This gives me hope that one day you will also realise that God does exist.
Let me start of to say this is not an attack. Just a confession of sorts.
I am one of the most tolerant people ever. When I see any reports or read any articles on any form of discrimination, be it Racial, Religous, Sexist, or any other form.. it disgusts me, and I wonder why people cannot just realise that it doesnt matter..
But What I have to say is as of lately, I do not feel the same about the Islamic people. Ive head people implying that Islamic people should leave this country (Australia) and of course I responded to them in a hostile way, telling them that they were disciminitive and unfair.
You're right.
Now after viewing the over reactions, intolerance, and near fanatic behaviour of you, It makes me wonder If there IS any place for people like you in our Society. Your ideals appear to clash with ours.
You're making the fatal mistake of grouping an entire group of people into one vacuous mass. I think you're referring to the demonstrations, some of which degenerated into riots. However, these debacles are not indicative of the attitude of every single person who calls themselves Muslim. I wonder if you have read about the peaceful protests in London recently, or Pakistan before then.
It is a shame you have brought someone who had solid views on tolerance to ALL people, to think nearly the opposite about Islam.
And it is a shame that you are judging an entire collection of people by the violent actions of certain groups, while ignoring the peaceful protests of many others.
1) Wake Up, take shower, ready for work
2) Subh Prayer
3) Breakfast
4) Work
5) Lunch
6) Zuhr Prayer
7) Work
8) Asr Prayer
9) Back Home
10) Dinner
11) Maghrib prayer
12) Isya' Prayer
13) Watch tv with family
14) Sleep
We have no time to burn other people embassy, no time to be racist, no time to demonstrate. It's saddening for us who live as usual as other religious groups to be labelled intolerance, racist etc.
We have to work in order to eat. We have to eat in order to submit ourselves to God.
Those punks you've seen on tv are zealots who are jobless, aimless in life and have other hidden agendas.
Please dont hate me for saying this but I think we are being a little too harsh with Malt here. See his views are his own, so are his feelings. So rather than saying that he is ignorant, not tolerant ect. I think you should look at his actions. Rather than join the "I hate Islam group" he has taken the time to express his concerns to US, and not anyone else. Doing so makes me see that he is actually looking for an explanation and wants to change his mind rather than trying to attack us. And mashalla you have given good explanations but I think we can do that without judging him.
That said, I would also like to say that what my fellow Muslims and 1 Atheist have done a good job with their posts. Just to add to that, if you do not yet believe that it is a minority of uneducated Muslims then you can do the numbers yourself. Take the violent protests that have been caused by Muslims, count how many of them were involved. They will not exceed a few thousand. Now divide that number by the total number of Muslims (1.2 billion) = Minority.
Muslims are also taking steps to try and stop violent protests, but it is hard to predict when a peaceful one will turn violent.
I hope you have changed your views Malt. If not please continue to express your opinion on this thread and we will try to help.
brother, this whooolllleee issue with muslims, the united snakes government, and israel, is deepeer than we all know.... may ALLAH(swt) help us and grant us victory inshallah ...amen
There's a big problem right now... people that don't really know any good Muslims have this big misconception, and you can't really blame it all on them, of course it's their fault as well but the bigger blame goes to the evilness of media and those greedy evil people that orchastrate the masses into submission to evil.
But yeah, Malt, if you met someone that truly lived the Sunnah, you'd understand what a real Muslim is.
So much lack of communication and understanding!!! Something has to be done!
hmm u blame us 4 a bunch of retards
Haiz
How many times i have to repeat this example
U see a wall, and a big black dot on it
Wad do u see wen u look at da wall?
A BLACK DOT
But did u ever bother to talk abt the white arnd the balck dot?
Just like that, a handful of retards make us all look rotten? Generalistaion is bad my dear friend. Hmm, will u pls read the seerah on the Prophet. I know our muslim bros n sis, some of dem have gone astray. but still there are some of us who believe in da prophet's peaceful ways?? Its sad wad ppl did. Im ashamed of dem. If the Prophet had seen this, he'd be very sad. He taught us the word peace, and some rather believe in violence. I would urge u to read it, so u wouldnt have this bad impression on us
Peace on u
I expected no less response than I was given. From the majority an aggressive comeback telling me oh how wrong I am in my Opinion (which as much as youd like to force me to think otherwise, I will keep)
Saying the majority of Muslims are not like what has given me this impression Is false. This very forum is what prompted me to have to post this. "Boycott Denmark products" "Jarhead = Jihad... Movie Conspiracy against Muslims".
Overly Sensitive, constantly afraid, easily offended, over reactive. Those are words I would use to describe the majority of Muslims. If you on this board represent the lower end of the religion (Ie not Fanatics) then its no wonder I have these impressions.
Learn to accept peoples opinions. It does not matter If someone pokes fun at your religion, or your people. As long as it isnt discrimination, it does not matter. Newpapers in western nations poke fun at everything, Our own leaders, Religious or Political, other well known Identities, even stereotyped groups within society. Take it on the chin, and get over it.
I will wait in amusement for the barrage of even more aggressive response posts to file in, thus further proving my point.
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