It is an old saying amongst scholars who have been working for many years; trying to achieve unity within the Muslims Ummah, that it would take a miracle to unite the Muslims.
Some say they are waiting for the Mahdi, others say they are right and everyone else is going to hell. There are many people living in a false hope that everything will be fine by itself without trying. It maybe something to take no short than a miracle to solve, but this does not mean, we throw away the truth completely and hope that one day Mahdi is going to come and all the Muslims will join him as one Ummah; and will defeat falsehood.
One step that many sectarian Muslims are taking against unity is throwing away knowledge; or at least trying their best to stay away from it. Whenever anyone tries to speak the truth about what should be common knowledge; such as Islamic History, they are silenced. This anti-Islamic attitude of sectarian Muslims is one of the majors factors keeping the Muslims from uniting.
Those of you who wish to unite should try to get off the net for a while, get Islamic History books, get Islamic Shariah books and any other to study. Always start off with the History, before jumping ahead; that way will help you understand ahadeeth better as well as which people (narrators) to trust and who you cannot trut. All this idea about people seeking unity online seems to have become a joke to those in authoritative positions on those so called unity seeking sites.
i know dat sum ov ur post av been deleted 4 tellin da truth about history. i understand now dat i'v been wasting my time on this forum. 1 ov my threads was deleted once 4 telling them sumthing.
You went offtopic in a thread, so all the offtopic posts were deleted. If you have any complaints please PM myself or one of the other Moderators or Admins.
it is strange that when ever someone posts false claims againsts the Prophet (pbuh) or his family, it is never against anyones rules. but when you post truth about history, it becomes insulting. now before anyone says anything about bans and warnings, before leaving i just want to say to those who do want unity to study history and get help on issues from sheikh abdul hakeem and ahmed waheed, i do not see anyone else with that knowledge willing to tell the truth here.
Salam Ahmed Waheed. I think you should leave this forum just as Halima did. I see no use in you staying here. They will not listen.
That will be very soon Insha-Allah, I'm not planning on staying for very long. I'll leave my email [content removed by zAk earlier on ([email protected])] for anyone who has questions about Islam. For those who want unity.
I explained why your posts were deleted, but we are still accused of acting 'anti-islamic' as you put it, in your initial post. No matter what myself or other staff members say, it will have no effect, as you're convinced that we are 'against the truth'.
I have nothing against you brother, on the contrary I respect you for your knowledge and understanding of the deen. I'd appreciate it if you would stop acting as if we are against you, because we are not.
If someone's posts are deleted, or if they are warned for whatever reason, it's simply because it's against the forum rules and nothing personal.
I explained why your posts were deleted, but we are still accused of acting 'anti-islamic' as you put it, in your initial post. No matter what myself or other staff members say, it will have no effect, as you're convinced that we are 'against the truth'.
I have nothing against you brother, on the contrary I respect you for your knowledge and understanding of the deen. I'd appreciate it if you would stop acting as if we are against you, because we are not.
If someone's posts are deleted, or if they are warned for whatever reason, it's simply because it's against the forum rules and nothing personal.
Can you tell me when I called you anti-Islamic. Read the entire post before accusing me of saying that. Secondly I did not comment on my posts being deleted in any post; I did however do that via PM.
Can you tell me when I called you anti-Islamic. Read the entire post before accusing me of saying that. Secondly I did not comment on my posts being deleted in any post; I did however do that via PM.
It seems I'm mistaken, I apologise. When you said:
This anti-Islamic attitude of sectarian Muslims is one of the majors factors keeping the Muslims from uniting.
I thought you were reffering to us.
My comments about your posts being deleted came after khal_75 stated that they were deleted because you were stating the truth.
And I was not aware that you had sent a PM to any mods, I apologise again.
And I was not aware that you had sent a PM to any mods, I apologise again.
I did not PM a mod or Admin, because the issue was supposed be left as it was, I only sent PM to the person who requested an explanation to the word Mu'awiyah. That is all.
As for you having anything against me; I'm sure you have nothing against me.
Regarding sectarian issues, I think it is a very good idea to restrict their discussion. Why? Look around the forum, there is a large number of youngsters, many of whom perhaps know little about different sects, their history etc... If they want to learn about the different sects, there is plenty of information in the respective sub-sections and on the internet in general.
The point is, sectarian issues should be discussed by those who have knowledge (deep knowledge). It shouldnt be discussed by youngsters and teenagers (even they might have an excellent understanding of the deen and history of Islam etc...) because its not our place to discuss it.
What benefit could come from allowing sectarian discussions?
Regarding sectarian issues, I think it is a very good idea to restrict their discussion. Why? Look around the forum, there is a large number of youngsters, many of whom perhaps know little about different sects, their history etc... If they want to learn about the different sects, there is plenty of information in the respective sub-sections and on the internet in general.
The point is, sectarian issues should be discussed by those who have knowledge (deep knowledge). It shouldnt be discussed by youngsters and teenagers (even they might have an excellent understanding of the deen and history of Islam etc...) because its not our place to discuss it.
What benefit could come from allowing sectarian discussions?
I think discussions in the World Affairs section are heated enough, id hate to see the reponse to a sectarian section where discussion is allowed!ffended: Like the other guy said, we do have a section for it already, which is good enough.
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i know dat sum ov ur post av been deleted 4 tellin da truth about history. i understand now dat i'v been wasting my time on this forum. 1 ov my threads was deleted once 4 telling them sumthing.
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Re: Can you get those fish to fly?
ffended: Like the other guy said, we do have a section for it already, which is good enough.
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