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Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

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    Has anyone ever been told that the food you get in Makkah and Madinah is not 'all' halaal. There are only certain places where you can eat from, i.e (Al tazaj, Kudu and some others). Most meat cooked in restaurants, are mainly imported from countries like Holland!!. We were told of this, by many scholars in Makkah and many scholars in this country. Its very odd, a muslim country (the best in the world!), with no guarantee on halaal and haraam food. hmmm
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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    salam
    bro where is your solid source of this info?
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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    I hope somone else can clarify this? It's very hard to convince you with proof... Anywayz we were told as i mentioned before by scholars in makkah. (this was about 6-7 years ago).
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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)



    Well in restaurant Pakistani, Indain and Bangladeshi people work there if u ask them about this they will tell you that where this chicken come from .......they buy packet Chicken or buy Halal .......you can ask themselve too but here Pakistani Scholar also say that u don't eat from everywhere in MAKKAH AND MADINA.............May ALLAH (SWT) knows best

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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    salam
    are you saying it is hard to convince me? it is hard to convince most people without proof
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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    You're getting the wrong end of the stick bro. As i dont have solid proof on me, its hard to convince...I soon will Insha'Allah. Relax a bit more.
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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    format_quote Originally Posted by metsudaistwice View Post
    salam
    are you saying it is hard to convince me? it is hard to convince most people without proof
    and allahu alam
    wasalam


    Brother you are absolutely right at you side don't mind pls I am just explaning we try our best to find some proof ...sorry if u mind

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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    salam
    sorry bro, iwas asking politely, don't get me wrong
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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    It's backfired on me (*raised eyebrow*), Bro ms2 i cant find no "solid proof".

    I thought I would let everyone know, from what i knew on halaal and haram foods in saudi.
    I still have a very strong opinion on this but i dont have the means to proof it. (very very frustrating, where's my punch bag)
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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    salam
    don't worry bro, am sure saudi take more caution now to prevent haram food in makkah and madinah
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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    just when the issue seemed to have cooled down, i get to read this message to, i agree with everyone when you say you need proof to say its haraam whether in saudi or in the uk. having said that i have been told by people from the uk that the meat consumed there is not halal. i have no concreate proof as to if its haraam but the main thing is when you are unsure you should refrain from it.
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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    format_quote Originally Posted by ahkar shams View Post
    just when the issue seemed to have cooled down, i get to read this message to, i agree with everyone when you say you need proof to say its haraam whether in saudi or in the uk. having said that i have been told by people from the uk that the meat consumed there is not halal. i have no concreate proof as to if its haraam but the main thing is when you are unsure you should refrain from it.


    So True brother agree

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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    format_quote Originally Posted by ahkar shams View Post
    but the main thing is when you are unsure you should refrain from it.
    Why do we have a discussion forum? So people can share their "views", I get to learn and you get to learn.. Not everyone here post threads with proof. Its simple, we are all learning.

    I meant that in a respected way bro, no offence.
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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)



    You would expect Saudi to have Halal food, well, because it's Saudi. It would be really bad if the stuff was haram.
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    why you will say that brother cause thats a muslim contry.Not like USA and CANADA ect....they all halal food.

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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    saudis ruled by royal family
    who likes to casinos,women,banquets
    giving jewels worth millions to kaffir royal family over here

    and u think all foods are halal in saudi

    wouldnt u rather give millions to masjid or poor people.that way you gain rewards from allah(swt)

    people watch tvs in the shops etc.only turn them off when there here azan

    just think our beloved prophet came from there.........

    these day and age people will sell haram foods to u for the sake of greed(money)
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    It truly is a sad thing for a country like Saudi Arabia to have non halal food. One would expect that if any country should sell only halal food, it would be Saudia Arabia, since they have the financial means and 'follow the Shariah'.

    On the topic of questioning or having doubt whether something is halah or not, I was told this by a Shaykh.

    Say there was two friends and a big mac. One believes that eating the big mac is not haraam, as he believes that eating non halal food is not haraam. The other friend believes that eating this big mac is indeed haraam because he trusts that eating non halal food makes one punishable. If both were to bite the burger, one would sin. The sinner being the one who believes that eating non halal food to be haraam. We know that intentions play a huge role in getting the reward for doing a good deed or becoming sinful. As in the hadith
    "Allah's Apostle said, "The reward of deeds depends upon the intention and every person will get the reward according to what he has intended."Volume 1, Book 2, Number 51, Sahih Bukhari

    One does not become sinful if he did not intend to disobey Allah. The sin of performing a Haram act is not registered as such except for someone who performs it with premedititation. As for someone who performs it out of ignorance, such a person is not blameworthy. However, even if the action is done out of ignorance, that does not necessarily cancel the worldly consequences. Nor does it save such a person from punishment if someone in his case should know better.

    Overall, one must always ask the restaurant owner in which he is purchasing a meal from, the contents of that meal, whether it is a halal or not. Regardless it is in Saudi Arabia or Timbuktu. There are cheap people everywhere that will sell you anything, so you gotta be careful!
    Last edited by Noor; 11-11-2005 at 05:15 PM.
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    well said sis
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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)


    U knw wat.....Im not saying im phsycic but I must admit: wen I eat sumthing haraam my tummy becomes very upset and I puck up for ages!!!!
    MashAllah *blushes*...I have been to saudi for 3umrah 2wice. And I hav not pucked up!!!
    Plus!! the food there is great. (Then again, I lived on ice cream most of the time.)

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    Re: Not always halaal (Makkah, Madinah)

    [QUOTE=montoyauk;109226]saudis ruled by royal family
    who likes to casinos,women,banquets
    giving jewels worth millions to kaffir royal family over here

    and u think all foods are halal in saudi


    seriously bro...wat an earth has the As Saud family got to do with halal food. On the subject of woemn and casinos: Other brothers do that too (ashamed to say but its true)....so u are no one to judge. Plz stay on topic bro!!!

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