How will Allah judge non muslims who believe in one God?

**_PakistaN_** · 11-11-2011

I've come across a lot of non muslims who only believe in one God. How will Allah judge them?

I've also come across a couple of Christians who had tremendous amount of noor on their face. This type of noor I have never seen on anyone's face. How come that is?

**Ğħαrєєвαħ** · 11-12-2011

Greetings of peace

Originally Posted by Fakrun

"Is this person posting accurate knowledge about this Deen?". If the answer is yes, then there is problem or threat.

Yes, that would most certainly be a main concern, but another concern would be, whether the knowledge is applied accurately. For example there are many anti-islamists who may post accurate knowledge ,however, they may do so in the wrong context. There intention may certainly not be sincerety but rather to hate or bash, also lack of knowledge.

**Fakrun** · 11-12-2011

Originally Posted by Jεώel oғ ωïѕdoм

Yes, that would most certainly be a main concern, but another concern would be, whether the knowledge is applied accurately. For example there are many anti-islamists who may post accurate knowledge ,however, they may do so in the wrong context. There intention may certainly not be sincerety but rather to hate or bash etc.

Asalaamu alaikum,

Hmmm...Not something I had even thought about. While the line quoted isn't what I had intended (it should have read ISN'T a problem), you make quite a valid point.

I could tell you things like 'I respect Mohammad' and I have many Muslim friends and I certainly do not hate Islam and have stood up to people who DO bash Islam', but you wouldn't believe it. I happen to know Sister Riham, Sister Harb, Brother Futuwwa, and Sister Starrynight so I would suggest asking them what I am like on other boards. That's the best I can do.

**Ğħαrєєвαħ** · 11-12-2011

Originally Posted by Fakrun

Asalaamu alaikum,
Hmmm...Not something I had even thought about. While the line quoted isn't what I had intended (it should have read ISN'T a problem), you make quite a valid point.
I could tell you things like 'I respect Mohammad' and I have many Muslim friends and I certainly do not hate Islam and have stood up to people who DO bash Islam', but you wouldn't believe it. I happen to know Sister Riham, Sister Harb, Brother Futuwwa, and Sister Starrynight so I would suggest asking them what I am like on other boards. That's the best I can do.

Wa Alaaykum As'Salaam

I wish to mention that I wasn't using you as an example, i replied to a previous post of yours which i felt i needed to address. I have no knowledge about you, about your belief, your character etc, therefore giving me nor anyone any right to judge you. But all I know of you is of the posts you have made on the forum so far.

So, if it seems as if I am judging you I do apologise.

**transition?** · 11-12-2011

There's multiples types of righteous. It is not enough to be just a "good person." The problem with this is that we think we see "good people" and assign our own definition of righteous/morality above the definition Allah gives it. There are people who believe in One God, who give charity, help others and treat others well but what about the other obligations of morality? Allah (swt) commands us to pray, to say the shahadah...which are all necessary to be a righteous person. Wouldn't a truly righteous person recognize the importance of all of Allah's Commands? Ultimately, Allah (swt) knows Best. He is the Most Just.

We have separated goodness into moral goodness and "religious goodness"/rituals but Allah (swt) combines this in Islam.

Nouman Ali Khan goes over this principle toward the end of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1qP9ymXqk

**Insaanah** · 11-12-2011

Originally Posted by Fakrun

Asalaamu alaikum,

AH! ok...not I understand your intent.

EDIT:

Sorry, that was a typo...it SHOULD have read, "AH! ok...NOW I understand your intent".....

My vision was a bit askew this morning due to a various reasons relating to my brain. I apologize if it caused confusion.

No problem, I figured it was a typo.

Peace.

**Hamza Asadullah** · 11-13-2011

Originally Posted by _PakistaN_

I've come across a lot of non muslims who only believe in one God. How will Allah judge them?

I've also come across a couple of Christians who had tremendous amount of noor on their face. This type of noor I have never seen on anyone's face. How come that is?

Asalaamu Alaikum, there are two types of non believers. The first type are the disbelievers and they are those who were shown "clear" signs that Islam was the truth but they rejected it due to arrogance, pride and ignorance. They will certainly burn in Hell but Allah forgives who he wants and his judgement is final.

The second type are those non believers that were not given "clear" signs about Islam. They will be tested in the hereafter. Some scholars say they will be tested by Allah by being sent a Prophet who will call upon them and whoever follows the Prophet will succeed. Some say they will be tested in other ways. But what we do know is that they will have some sort of test in the hereafter which Allah knows best what it will be. Whatever happens Allah is MOST just and fair.

And Allah knows best in all matters

**Fakrun** · 11-13-2011

Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah

Some scholars say they will be tested by Allah by being sent a Prophet who will call upon them and whoever follows the Prophet will succeed.

Asalaamu alaikum,

Brother, would you please go into more detail about this? I've never heard about this and it fascinates me!

**Fakrun** · 11-13-2011

Originally Posted by Insaanah

No problem, I figured it was a typo.

Peace.

Asalaamu Alaikum Ukti,

WHEW!

I had to correct it though so....I glad you understood it.

**Hamza Asadullah** · 11-13-2011

Originally Posted by Fakrun

Asalaamu alaikum,

Brother, would you please go into more detail about this? I've never heard about this and it fascinates me!

Wa Alaikum

The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: “Four types of people will be tested on the day of judgement: a deaf man who cannot hear anything, a mad man, an old aged man and a man who died during fatrah (a period of time when no messenger was sent to people). The deaf man will say: “Oh Allah, Islam came while I cannot hear anything!”. The mad man will say: “Oh Allah, Islam came while the boys throw animals’ excrement on me!”. The old aged man will say: “Oh Allah, Islam came while I can understand nothing”. And the man who died during a fatrah will say: “Oh Allah, I witnessed no messenger from You”. Then Allah takes a promise from them to obey Him. Then He will command them to enter hell, and who enters it will find it peace and cool, and who disobeys will be dragged to hell” (Ahmed, Bayhaqi)

Again it is not known exactly how the non believers who were not given clear signs of Islam will be tested, this could be one of the tests they face, Allah knows best, but what we do know is that Allah is most fair and just.

And Allah knows best in all matters

**Fakrun** · 11-13-2011

Asalaamu alaikum,

Sister Inshannah, I just saw this on IslamQA and thought I'd share it since we were talking "tafsir". It was part of a whole fatwah about the tafisir of Surah 60:5 but I still thought of our discussion when I read it.

"The basic principle in tafseer is that if the verse may be interpreted in two ways that do not exclude one another, then it must be interpreted in both ways."

I just thought that was an interesting statement...

**Fakrun** · 11-13-2011

Originally Posted by Ramadhan

Salam Fakrun,

You seem to believe that Islam is the truth and that Qur'an is the word of God, but you claim you are not a muslim.
This intrigues me, because it is such a contradiction. If you don't mind, would you please explain?
(I think this is still within the topic)

Wa Alaikum Asalaamu Ramadhan,

I just wanted to let you know that I have not forgotten about your question. Please understand, this question (or others similar to it) is probably the most asked question of me. Typically, once I answer it, the Muslims just vanish...poof...and never speak to me again. Not because of what I've said but simply because their curiosity was sated. The only reason why they would pm me at all is to ask that question. It turns me into a circus freak...

I've grown to hate this question.

I beg for your patience in the matter.

**Fakrun** · 11-13-2011

Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah

Wa Alaikum

The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: “Four types of people will be tested on the day of judgement: a deaf man who cannot hear anything, a mad man, an old aged man and a man who died during fatrah (a period of time when no messenger was sent to people). The deaf man will say: “Oh Allah, Islam came while I cannot hear anything!”. The mad man will say: “Oh Allah, Islam came while the boys throw animals’ excrement on me!”. The old aged man will say: “Oh Allah, Islam came while I can understand nothing”. And the man who died during a fatrah will say: “Oh Allah, I witnessed no messenger from You”. Then Allah takes a promise from them to obey Him. Then He will command them to enter hell, and who enters it will find it peace and cool, and who disobeys will be dragged to hell” (Ahmed, Bayhaqi)

Again it is not known exactly how the non believers who were not given clear signs of Islam will be tested, this could be one of the tests they face, Allah knows best, but what we do know is that Allah is most fair and just.

And Allah knows best in all matters

Asalaamu Alaikum,

Brother, in your previous post you said that the SCHOLARS say that "they (non-Muslims) will be tested by Allah by being sent a Prophet who will call upon them and whoever follows the Prophet will succeed.".

Where did you see this information? Which Scholars say this? What is their proof of that statement? Like I said, its fascinating.....I've heard the above Hadith tho. There are some topics in Islam that I'm just now starting to explore deeper so some things catch my eye.