A lot of what they practice here is what they want with the name shariah simply stamped onto it. And also, the west look to saudi arabia as an example of a perfect islamic state, the embodiment of islam and all its principles. It misrepresents islam. Yes, many other muslim countries do the same, but Saudi Arabia is the only one that claims to be an islamic state (other than iran maybe).
I stay because I'm 16 and can't exactly move somewhere by myself. My dad's job is here, so we are here, alhamdullilah. If it was up to me, I would not stay. And like I said, it's not that bad, this is just what I don't like about the country. Of course there are lots of good things about living here, but if it were up to me personally, I would not want to live here.
Al Habeshi- Unless they know someone who runs a business, or have lots of connections, then probably not. Although they could be useful in asking around for a job for you, asking people they know, etc. Since they're familiar with the place they could help you get acquainted, find a place to stay.
Another thing that is important is whether you have a family or not. For example it would be much cheaper for you to come alone, seeing as you could find a housemate and split the rent or something, but if you have a wife and kids, that's extra expenses.
Like what sis Crayon? what is there thats claimed as Shariah and not Shariah that's being practiced? alot of it is more Saudi culture and nothing to do with the law, but when in Rome..... we have to respect the culture as well as the laws in the country we live in, or get out.
Likewise in any other country.
The immense charity work the royal family does inside and outside of KSA is amazing.
Just say alhamdulillah ur in a country where you dont have to pay a dime of taxes sis Crayon
when i went there it was really nice both mecca and madinah in jeddah my uncle lives there he has a really good job there but i dont know wat he works as.
they are originally from there, however i do know of people who moved to Makkah. what kind of questions do you want answering?
and try www.hijra.net, quite a few people moved there
the women are oppressed-we couldn't go to the 3rd floor of the haram and couldnt touch the kabah door (i did manage to push my way to the black stone)
do you mean the roof? thats because its closed off for everyone. women can go up there, ive been quite a few times.
you can touch the kabah door as a woman, i again know of women who have got that close, however theres so much men there that is it right for the women to push themselves up against and near the men to touch the door? i think not.
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Is it difficult for women to work in saudi, because of the ban on women driving etc.
I work here quite comfortable sis, we have chauffeurs
Bro Habeshi, u either apply for a job and u r sponsored under the company, or sponsored by a Saudi friend, or u can attain a foreign investment license which allows u to open ur own business and u more or less live like a Saudi here.
I've been thinking of moving to an Islamic Country for years... after I finish my education and get a degree. Having to indirectly support wars through paying taxes to the US government is unbearable.
So what would you guys say the best country in the middle east for a practicing muslim?
That isn't that harsh to expatriates
no alcohol
Adhaan can be heard
I was thinking along the lines of Kuwait, Jordan, or other surrounding areas
Well alcohol is prevalent in both Kuwait and Jordan, and yes i must admit it has illegally entered KSA but its not something permitted or sold or common in KSA.
The adhaan is the best thing about KSA, with two streets theres about 6 masaajid, subhanallah.
The best thing would be to get in contact with someone living there. But honestly speaking, if ur looking for the above and ur from a western country, you wouldnt have to worry about any expat problems in KSA, and you would likely land a very good job here.
I went their manytimes.
what sis crayon said about trafic is sooo true. I dont know what is the use traffic jam there. Its so dangerous to drive there, you have to be very careful.
another thing there is that the driving licenses laws there are very weak. imagine that one time while I was there I was surprised for a moment when I look at one of the cars I imagine for a moment that there is no one driving it (it was just a child driving) he is too short to even be seen. I am seriuos on this
for the racism, it is not against those who are from east asia, I think sometimes it is for non Khaligi people (people who are not from arabian gulf country)
but what I like most there is the law against woman hijab, there is even what is called hai'aah which is group of men moving around to check if woman is dress well or not but I am not sure if it is in all cities in the knigdom there.
another thing I like there is that I think the religious activities there is better than any islamic country I guess----some one correct me if its wrong
wait, there is somthing else I forgot, if the woman there walk all by himself it is very danger, especially in the public garden or on the malls, I dont know but my friends there are really suffering from those bad yourg men who like to Harass woman there
I donno, it has been couple of years since I went there last time, I dont know if something change.
Its quite the contrary actually, KSA is very safe for women. i've been here almost 6 years now, alone, and i find it safe to walk at all hours of day or night. sure maybe a young teen may open his car window and flirt a bit, ignoring is the cure, but the danger is not even comparable to living in the west. A rape here makes big news cuz it happens so rarely.
The best thing would be to get in contact with someone living there. But honestly speaking, if ur looking for the above and ur from a western country, you wouldnt have to worry about any expat problems in KSA, and you would likely land a very good job here.
Wa Alaykum Salaam,
What type of jobs are eeasy to land there that provide you with a long long long stay?
What city you at?
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Your long long long stay would more or less depend on you and your work, in any situation companies keep good workers Engineers, doctors, researchers, deep-sea divers, teachers, are very valuable. Cooks, managers, supervisors, are very valuable in the hospitality field, which is a huge industry in Makkah and Madeenah due to the immense Hajj and Umrah tourism.
If you have the cash to invest in ur own business to obtain a foreign investor license, you are more less guaranteed to stay as long as u wish, and also under this you may bring your own family and foreign workers under your own company's sponsorship.
Restaurants, training centers (IT/language), hotels (the best cuz of hajj and umrah), industrial production companies, importing goods, shops of any kind, gyms and fitness centers, almost anything really, and would depend on how much u have to invest.
Maybe you should try applying for a job, if all else fails then consider the business route.
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