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    I just want to know these few questions about Saudi.

    First it is based on a Monarchy system, is this even allowed in Islam? Is this part of Shari ah,

    Second women can't drive is this their country law or Islamic law?

    Third, I hear the Saudi Kingdom family is corrupt, true? ( of course corruption is every where but just want to know)

    and Last, is it good place to live in?
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    Re: Saudi Arabia few questions...

    Hm... I've got an American friend who lived there. She lived with her husbands family and that was great, but the countries laws can be very strict towards women and she has daughters so it really bothered her. As a result, the family moved back to the states. I could totally be wrong, but it has been my impression from the Saudi students I have met is that it is very safe so if you are a guy, an enjoyable place. But there are many rules for women so many western women find it difficult to adjust.
    The people that I have met from there are some of the kindest and most interesting people I have ever met. So I think the thing people have to adjust to are the strict governmental laws (and nothing to do with the kind people).
    As for the driving thing, I'm sure that is simply country law because the other Middle Eastern countries allow women to drive.
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    Re: Saudi Arabia few questions...

    Sorry to bring this back up, but would someone give me recommendation on Good Muslim countries, I am not liking the west any more I think after uni and few years work I would like to be in Muslim country...And I think when I am 25 or 23 The Saudi laws would be changed
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    format_quote Originally Posted by PoweredByGoogle View Post
    Sorry to bring this back up, but would someone give me recommendation on Good Muslim countries, I am not liking the west any more I think after uni and few years work I would like to be in Muslim country...And I think when I am 25 or 23 The Saudi laws would be changed
    I can't think of anywhere, I know people who moved to Qatar and like it. What about Dubai?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Salahudeen View Post
    I can't think of anywhere, I know people who moved to Qatar and like it. What about Dubai?
    Hmmm never thought of Qatar could look into it thought, Dubai would be good buts it's becoming very Western style...
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    format_quote Originally Posted by PoweredByGoogle View Post
    Hmmm never thought of Qatar could look into it thought, Dubai would be good buts it's becoming very Western style...
    That's the problem bro a lot of them becoming western style, Saudi even has its problems I heard with vices.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Salahudeen View Post
    That's the problem bro a lot of them becoming western style, Saudi even has its problems I heard with vices.
    Yeah but at least you get to read or dress like a Muslim without "dirty looks" at least you can hear the Azaan 5 times a day....
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    Re: Saudi Arabia few questions...

    Salaam,

    I'd like to live in a Muslim country too. I think I'd really like hearing the azaan five times a day Anyway, what about Algeria? My brothers and everyone in their family have all lived there (some of them for their entire lives), and most of them would never want to live anywhere else. However, I've never been there myself, so I don't know much about their government. I'd like to visit there soon, inshallah.

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    I think when I'm ready it should be Saudi/Dubai/Qatar, or some other Arabic Middle east country providing US don't start any more WARS with our Islamic Countries...But I think Saudi might be good for me....
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    I think the reason Saudi bans women driving, in general it causes more fitna. If a woman was to be stranded or have an accident or some sort of car trouble most likely a male would come to her aid, maybe they take these and other such situations into consideration for the reason to ban women from driving. They dont want to allow an open door for fitna before it gets out of hand. It definitely is a very secure place and sharia law dominates the country, Alhamdulillah.
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    Re: Saudi Arabia few questions...

    The west want it to be more liberal

    But im glad Saudi Arabia dont budge on that

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    i wouldn't think cars in themselves are forbidden to women in Islam - as there are numerous hadiths of female comapnions riding camels (the transport of their time), this must be something to do with other concerns like noblemuslimuk mentioned,
    regarding moving - the last place i would consider is dubai - the country that welcomed erik prince the mass murderer of Muslims, a few months ago to train mercenaries who would train others, with mercenaries causing havoc all over the muslim world since.
    saudi arabia has killed and tortured people who call for an islamic state.
    so i would say the only place where you can say: give me liberty or give me death is Palestine.
    that's where it all happens, and that's where we'll need people who can help things change, otherwise you'll soon see the same fate overtake the government of saudi arabia as that of Gaddafi, he joined them in their war on "terror" when they illegally attacked iraq and accused libya of possesing wmd. then they betrayed him. satan will never be satisfied until he has destroyed faith - no matter how pliant they are - so i'd say a time to stand is coming.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by NobleMuslimUK View Post
    I think the reason Saudi bans women driving, in general it causes more fitna. If a woman was to be stranded or have an accident or some sort of car trouble most likely a male would come to her aid, maybe they take these and other such situations into consideration for the reason to ban women from driving. They dont want to allow an open door for fitna before it gets out of hand. It definitely is a very secure place and sharia law dominates the country, Alhamdulillah.
    I heard is was because it was a "Western" brought up thing there is a video on Youtube somewhere, that was a ridiculous excuse. Btw the king did say he would allow women to drive the government got no problem but some Arabs have problems with it....so they are just patient. and abz2000 When did Saudi kill and torture people who call for a Islamic state? It is a Islamic State..!
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    format_quote Originally Posted by abz2000 View Post
    i wouldn't think cars in themselves are forbidden to women in Islam - as there are numerous hadiths of female comapnions riding camels (the transport of their time), this must be something to do with other concerns like noblemuslimuk mentioned,
    regarding moving - the last place i would consider is dubai - the country that welcomed erik prince the mass murderer of Muslims, a few months ago to train mercenaries who would train others, with mercenaries causing havoc all over the muslim world since.
    saudi arabia has killed and tortured people who call for an islamic state.
    so i would say the only place where you can say: give me liberty or give me death is Palestine.
    that's where it all happens, and that's where we'll need people who can help things change, otherwise you'll soon see the same fate overtake the government of saudi arabia as that of Gaddafi, he joined them in their war on "terror" when they illegally attacked iraq and accused libya of possesing wmd. then they betrayed him. satan will never be satisfied until he has destroyed faith - no matter how pliant they are - so i'd say a time to stand is coming.
    Well no Muslim country is helping those Islamic countries in war they are all in it together so where ever you stay your country is killing poeple, your in a country where they are at war! So Saudi and the rest are all doing the same, we can't help it .. we...Just pray to Allah
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    But they allow women to be driven around by men I heard, and the male driver is alone with the woman in the car isn't this more fitna?? Don't know if this is true but it's what I was told.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Salahudeen View Post
    But they allow women to be driven around by men I heard, and the male driver is alone with the woman in the car isn't this more fitna?? Don't know if this is true but it's what I was told.
    I would not count this on fitna, I mean in other countries like Libya, iran dubai etc, when women are driving if they have an accident its pretty obvious someone will come and safe her, I doubt the fitna thing counts, Islam does not say just let the person die, you gotta free them.
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    Who from here is from Saudi Arabia? How is it like there? That's the only cool country I could think off.
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    i'm not from Saudi Arabia but I've been there twice, the people are friendly and easy going, the atmosphere is great, however there is that fear of speaking too loud about certain things, they also have mandatory ID with police checking your passport or ID when you go from one city to another, you also got to hand in your ID when you go to the Internet cafe, it is not an Islamic state as it has issues with wala and barra, allies and enemies (wrong ones) .

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel
    -for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by God's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-
    Whoever is an enemy to God and His angels and messengers, to Gabriel and Michael,- then (know that) God is an enemy to those who reject Faith.
    2:297-298

    rather they are friends of the enemies of Islam, who have opposed the Islamic state from the very land which the Prophet and his rightly guided companions gave their lives to bring the people from ignorance to Islam. the land where the prophet dedicated his life to establishing an Islamic state.

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    the speaker you saw in the video in the post above above saw a crippled man who he thought walked like that from birth, he later found that the security services had done it after he was arrested for calling for an Islamic state, the Saudi government was installed with the help of tfe British government at the time who were actively splitting up the ottoman empire, Which was also not the rightly guided caliphate on the precepts if prophethood.

    "Hadhrat Huzaifa narrated that the Messenger of Allah said:
    *Prophethood will remain among you as long as Allah wills.
    Then Caliphate (Khilafah) on the lines of Prophethood shall commence,
    and remain as long as Allah wills.
    Then corrupt/erosive monarchy would take place,
    and it will remain as long as Allah wills.
    After that, tyrant kingship/ military kingdoms would emerge,
    and it will remain as long as Allah wills.
    Then, the Caliphate (Khilafah) shall come once again based on the precept of *Prophethood."In the above Hadith the first era of Caliphate is commonly accepted by the Muslims as that of the*rightly guided Caliphate.


    Recently, Saudi Arabia's interior minister warned the pilgrims that they should not involve politics in Hajj. The current rulers in the Muslim lands are attempting to prevent Muslims from gathering and discussing issues and ideas which are pertinent to the future of the Ummah. Politics which is the act of "taking care of the affairs of the Ummah according to Shar'a rulings" is an integral part of Islam. We must take it upon ourselves to reclaim Islam and discuss the issues affecting the Muslim Ummah in all gatherings.Prior to the commencement of Hajj, Saudi authorities were warning pilgrims not to stage any protests during the ritual. Saudi Arabia's interior minister Prince Nayef bin Abdul Aziz said, "It is not permitted to undertake any actions which are not part of the ritual... and we will not permit anyone to damage the hajj or the pilgrims."Hajj is an amazing journey where Muslims have an opportunity to strengthen their relationship with Allah سبحانه وتعالى. It is also an event where Muslims from every corner of the earth gather together as one Ummah to strengthen the bonds of brotherhood. Today, the pilgrims are grouped according to the nation states they belong to. Furthermore, Muslims are not given an opportunity to bond with each other, by getting to know one another and discuss our condition as Allah سبحانه وتعالى has revealed:
    إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَى وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا"We have created you of a male and a female, and made you tribes and families that you may know each other." [Al-Hujraat, 49:13]
    Obstructing the Ummah: Hajj and BeyondThe discouragement of Muslims gathering and discussing the affairs of the Ummah is not only seen at the time of Hajj. Rather, this is a recurring theme throughout the Muslim world. Rulers regularly prevent Muslims from gathering and discussing issues and ideas which are pertinent to the future of the Ummah. Such preventions are usually enforced with great hostility and aggression.

    the Prophet gave his most famous public political speech during the Farewell Pilgrimage, near Arafah.

    Prior to the twentieth century all of Arabia was part of the Islamic State (the
    Ottomani Khilafah). Abdul-Aziz Bin Abdul Rahman Ibn-Saud (the founder of
    so-called Saudi Arabia) with some Bedouin bandits rose by the help of British
    soldiers against the Islamic state, conspiring to expel the authority of the
    Khilafah, and therefore Islam, form that region.

    A little like the "rebels" in libya.

    Lord Curzon,

    Lord Curzon, the British Foreign Minister at the time of the Caliphate's end, appear to have best caught the Caliphate's significance when he announced to the House of Commons:

    "The situation now is that Turkey is dead and will never rise again, because we have destroyed its moral strength, the Caliphate and Islam".

    "We must put an end to anything which brings about any Islamic unity between the sons of the Muslims. As we have already succeeded in finishing off the Caliphate, so we must ensure that there will never arise again unity for the Muslims, whether it be intellectual or cultural unity"






    Sir Campbell Bannerman, [Prime Minister of Britain (1905-08)]
    “ There are people who control spacious territories teeming with manifest and hidden resources. They dominate the intersections of world routes. Their lands were the cradles of human civilizations and religions. These people have one faith, one language, one history and the same aspirations. No natural barriers can isolate these people from one another ... if, per chance, this nation were to be unified into one state, it would then take the fate of the world into its hands and would separate Europe from the rest of the world.
    Taking these considerations seriously,
    a foreign body should be planted in the heart of this nation
    to prevent the convergence of its wings in such a way
    that it could exhaust its powers in never-ending wars.
    It could also serve as a springboard for the West to gain its coveted objects.” - 1902*

    A few years later, the British government began to make it a Zionist settlement,
    Zionists who were "liberal" and ok with direct violation of the Torah.

    Lord Zetland [March 24, 1940, British Secretary of State for the colonial India]
    “[T]he call of Islam is one which transcends the bounds of country. It may have lost some force as a result of the abolition of Caliphate by Mustafa Kamal Pasha, but it still has a very considerable appeal as witness for example Jinnah’s insistence on our giving undertaking that Indian troops should never be employed against any Muslim state, and the solicitude which he has constantly expressed for the Arabs of Palestine.”

    This is the kind or rhetoric were getting now


    POLITICAL COMMENTS


    Tony Blair,
    In a speech at Labour Party National Conference, stated:*
    “What we are confronting here is an evil ideology......They demand the elimination of Israel; the withdrawal of all Westerners from Muslim countries, irrespective of the wishes of people and government; the establishment of effectively Taliban states and Shariah law in the Arab world en route to one caliphate of all Muslim nations.”


    Charles Clarke,*
    In a speech on Counter Terrorism at The Heritage Foundation (a neoconservative think tank, Washington DC) stated:
    “What drives these people on is ideas. And unlike the liberation movements of the post World War II era in many parts of the world, these are not in pursuit of political ideas like national independence from colonial rule, or equality for all citizens without regard for race or creed, or freedom of expression without totalitarian repression. Such ambitions are, at least in principle, negotiable and in many cases have actually been negotiated. However there can be no negotiation about the re-creation of the Caliphate; there can be no negotiation about the imposition of Shariah law; there can be no negotiation about the suppression of equality between the sexes; there can be no negotiation about the ending of free speech. These values are fundamental to our civilization and are simply not up for negotiation.”

    ....David Cameron seeks to block twitter following riots.....

    “The militants believe that controlling one country will rally the Muslim masses, enabling them to overthrow all moderate governments in the region, and establish a radical Islamic empire that spans from Spain to Indonesia"
    “The murderous ideology of the Islamic radicals is the great challenge of our new century. Yet, in many ways, this fight resembles the struggle against communism in the last century."


    **** Cheney [Vice President, Speech in Sydney, Australia February 2007]

    " ...And it is they, the terrorists, who have ambitions of empire. Their goal in the broader Middle East is to seize control of a country, so they have a base from which they can launch attacks against governments that refuse to meet their demands. Their ultimate aim -- and one they boldly proclaim -- is to establish a caliphate covering a region from Spain, across North Africa, through the Middle East and South Asia, all the way to Indonesia. And it wouldn't stop there.*
    ...The war on terror is more than a contest of arms, and more than a test of will. It is a battle of ideas...."


    Donald Rumsfeld [US Secretary of Defense, December 5 2005]
    In a speech at the Paul Nitze School of Advanced Studies at Johns Hopkins:

    "...Iraq would serve as the base of a new Islamic caliphate to extend throughout the Middle East and which would threaten the legitimate governments in Europe, Africa, and Asia. This is their plan. They have said so. We make a terrible mistake if we fail to listen and learn...."


    Eric Edelman [Undersecretary of Defense for Policy]

    December 1, 2005, Council on Foreign Relations, Washington, DC*

    "...So I think we need to be very clear. Iraq's future will either embolden terrorists and expand their reach and ability to establish a — reestablish a caliphate, or it will deal them a crippling blow. For us, failure in Iraq is just not an option..."

    General John Abizaid, [Chief of US Central Command, 29th Sept. 2005]
    In a speech to US law makers said:
    "Al Qaeda terrorists hope to drive American influence from the Middle East and install a global Muslim leader in Saudi Arabia.....If al Qaeda terrorists manage to take control of Saudi Arabia, they will try to create and expand their influence in the region and establish a caliphate."
    Abizaid said al Qaeda would subsequently move on to apply a "very narrow, strict interpretation of Shariah, Islamic law, not believed in or practiced anywhere else in the world today.......The next goal would be to expand into non-Arab Islamic countries. This would include the middle of Africa, South Asia and Southeast Asia".*
    At another occasion,
    Gen. John Abizaid said: “We are fighting the most despicable enemy ... who uses the 21st century-technology to spread their vision of a 7th-century paradise (and) try to re-create what they imagine was the pure and perfect Islamic government of the era of the prophet Muhammad.”


    Gen. Richard Myers, [The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff]
    While addressing a Pentagon news conference stressed:
    “If the Zarqawis of the world were allowed to be successful in Iraq in their view, and that would be the start of the caliphate that they envision, the stakes would be huge for the region,"


    Henry Kissinger, [Nov 2004]
    Asked in an interview “What in your opinion are the principal threats of the age?” He answered - “First, is what we call terrorism in the United States, but which is really the uprising of radical Islam against the secular world, and against the democratic world, on behalf of re-establishing a sort of Caliphate. That is directed as much against moderate Islam, than it is against non-Islamic societies.”


    Patrick J. Buchanan, [June 23, 2006. Founder of magazine ‘The American Conservative’. Has served three presidents in the White House]

    “If Islamic rule is an idea taking hold among the Islamic masses, how does even the best army on earth stop it? Do we not need a new policy?”


    President Vladimir Putin
    The Russian leader said at a European Union summit in Brussels that western civilisation faced a mortal threat from Muslim terrorists, and claimed that they had plans to create a "worldwide caliphate".
    "…The creation of a caliphate on the territory of the Russian Federation is only part one of their plan. In fact, if you are following the situation, you surely know that the radicals are pursuing a larger goal: They are talking about the creation of a world caliphate…”

    The Washington Post [January 14, 2006]
    The Washington Post headed an article with the title " Reunified Islam: Unlikely but Not Entirely Radical, Restoration of Caliphate, Attacked by Bush, Resonates With Mainstream Muslims", arguing that such a call is not radical nor only resonant with Islamic guerrilla movements


    Terrorism - From a War on Terror to a War of Ideas
    by David Lazarus
    "...The underlying belief of the jihadists appears to be that the re-establishment and enforcement of strict Islamic law in these territories will bring about an almost mystical rebirth of a just, pure and perfect society for all true Muslims. The appeal of such a vision is potent within the Middle East in particular and can be easily understood when one examines the general failure of modernity that prevails in most sectors of Arab society. 7 Any Islamist revolution throughout the entire Middle East has, however, been thwarted by authoritarian dictatorships within the region, such as those of Egypt and Saudi Arabia..."

    Peter Costello (Ex Australian Treasurer), 2006, Australian Christian Lobby:

    “There are countries that claim to be theocratic Islamic States, for example, The Islamic Republic of Iran, The Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, The Islamic Republic of Mauritania. There are other countries that enforce religious or Sharia Law – the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. But for the radical Islamists even this is not enough. They have a vision of a Caliphate stretching across the Middle East toppling what they see as corrupt nation states and enforcing a more “pure” version of Islam. In our own region the ambitions of Jemaah Islamiyah is to create a Pan-Islamic State stretching down and encompassing the southern Philippines, Malaya and Indonesia.”

    In December 2004, A report by the National Intelligence Council (NIC) state a possible scenario that by 2020 a “New Caliphate" would have been established. This 123-page report titled "Mapping the Global Future" was aimed to prepare the next Bush administration for future challenges, and was presented to US President, members of Congress, cabinet members and key officials involved in policymaking.
    According to CSIS (Center for Strategic and International Studies), Washington based think tank, this report was not a prediction, but a case exercise/study which involves observing the various events taking place in the world. These events are then connected in such a way that there might be a possibility of forming of a Caliphate state. Given that such a state may be established, then it is to be decided from today as to what needs to be done to prevent it, if it needs to be prevented.
    Moreover there are two organizations which did such a study, one is the CIA and the other is Shell Oil Company.

    The prophet pbuh said that it would come after the return of Jesus and the killing of the antichrist,
    And I found something amazing:

    After this manner therefore pray ye:
    Our Father which art in heaven,
    Hallowed be thy name.

    Thy kingdom come,

    Thy will be done in earth,
    as it is in heaven.

    Give us this day our daily bread.
    And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
    And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:
    For thine is the kingdom,
    and the power, and the glory, for ever.
    Amen
    *
    Matthew 6:9-13

    The man was actively seeking a divine law and kingdom which is of God.

    55.*Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds,
    that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power),
    just as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion - the one which He has chosen for them; and that He will change (their state),
    *after the fear in which they (lived), to one of security and peace:
    'They will worship Me (alone) and not associate aught with Me.'
    If any do reject Faith after this, they are rebellious and wicked.
    56.*So establish regular Prayer and give regular Charity;
    *and obey the Messenger. that ye may receive mercy.
    57.*Never think thou that the Unbelievers are going to frustrate ((Allah)'s Plan) on earth: their abode is the Fire,- and it is indeed an evil refuge!
    *
    Al Quran 24:55-57
    *
    104.*The Day that We roll up the heavens like a scroll rolled up for books (completed),-
    even as We produced the first creation, so shall We produce a new one:
    a promise We have undertaken: truly shall We fulfil it.
    105.*Before this We wrote in the Psalms, after the Message (given to Moses):
    My servants the righteous, shall inherit the earth."
    106.*Verily in this is a Message for people who would serve God.
    107.*We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.
    108.*Say: "What has come to me by inspiration is that your*God is One God.
    will ye therefore bow to His Will?"
    109.*But if they turn back, Say:
    "I have proclaimed the Message to you all alike and in truth;
    but I know not whether that which ye are promised is near or far.
    110.*"It is He Who knows what is open in speech and what ye hide.
    111.*"I know not but that it may be a trial for you,
    and a grant of (worldly) livelihood (to you) for a time."
    112.*Say: "O my Lord! judge You in truth!" "Our Lord Most Gracious
    is the One Whose assistance should be sought against that which you assert.
    *
    Al Quran 21:104-112
    *
    *
    41.*(They are) those who, if We establish them in the land,
    *establish regular prayer and give regular charity,
    enjoin the right and forbid wrong:
    with Allah rests the end (and decision) of (all) affairs.
    42.*If they treat thy (mission) as false,
    so did the peoples before them (with their prophets),
    - the People of Noah, and 'Ad and Thamud;
    43.*Those of Abraham and Lut;
    44.*And the Companions of the Madyan People;
    and Moses was rejected (in the same way).
    But I granted respite to the Disbelievers,
    *and (only) after that did I punish them:
    but how (terrible) was my rejection (of them)!

    I'm sure you've come to the conclusion that. Saudi Arabia is not an islamic state but a state where Islam is officially practiced among the people, with some glaring problems in terms of alliances among the government.
    After bush killed all those millions of people in Iraq. Prince Abdullah gave him a gold medal and kissed him on the cheek. See the image on my "thy kingdom come" page by going through my profile,
    Peace
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    I just want to know these few questions about Saudi.

    First it is based on a Monarchy system, is this even allowed in Islam? Is this part of Shari ah,


    I'm not sure. I personally dislike monarchies. To gain power and influence, you should work for it. The idea that a person should become a leader because he was born in the right family is something that I will never understand.

    Second women can't drive is this their country law or Islamic law?
    The law is based on culture. Some support this ban because they say Saudi women can be exposed to danger or can lead to more sin or combination of both. I disagree. Saudi women can be exposed to danger or the temptation of sin if they are driving in a car with a male driver who is not related to them. The law does not make sense to me, you might as well ban telephones and any other forms of communication/transportation.

    Third, I hear the Saudi Kingdom family is corrupt, true? ( of course corruption is every where but just want to know)
    One Saudi Prince was involved in drug-dealing. Other than that, some members of the royal family are open about their lifestyles while others are more secretive...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qzx_...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Kpm-yHCzw&feature=related

    and Last, is it good place to live in?
    I've heard mixed responses. Racism and policing can be a problem in Saudi Arabia. The good things about Saudi Arabia is the food, practicing Islam is easier and low crime rate. This is based on what I have heard.
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    Re: Saudi Arabia few questions...

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    I'm not sure. I personally dislike monarchies. To gain power and influence, you should work for it. The idea that a person should become a leader because he was born in the right family is something that I will never understand.



    The law is based on culture. Some support this ban because they say Saudi women can be exposed to danger or can lead to more sin or combination of both. I disagree. Saudi women can be exposed to danger or the temptation of sin if they are driving in a car with a male driver who is not related to them. The law does not make sense to me, you might as well ban telephones and any other forms of communication/transportation.



    One Saudi Prince was involved in drug-dealing. Other than that, some members of the royal family are open about their lifestyles while others are more secretive...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qzx_...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Kpm-yHCzw&feature=related



    I've heard mixed responses. Racism and policing can be a problem in Saudi Arabia. The good things about Saudi Arabia is the food, practicing Islam is easier and low crime rate. This is based on what I have heard.

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